| nicomachus | well, about to dive into the firewall on my htpc. wish me luck. | 01:28 |
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| oerheks | 16.04? | 01:30 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: Tie a 2X4 with a long rope :) | 01:30 |
| nicomachus | good thinking. | 01:30 |
| oerheks | i would do a mustang with hoodclips, firewall | 01:33 |
| nicomachus | well, I can't even reach the machine yet. I may have to actually do it from there... | 01:34 |
| Bashing-om | but Paul would use a Charger :) | 01:35 |
| oerheks | oh right | 01:41 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: When it is stuck you want that 4:11 traction from the Charger to PULL . | 01:44 |
| nicomachus | I'm confused. | 01:45 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: No wonder " dive into the firewall on my htpc " . We help pull you out :) | 01:48 |
| nicomachus | well idk what I did to it. I tried using a script to set up a killswitch if a VPN was disconnected and idk if it just trashed all my iptables rules or what. I can't SSH into it, even from local network. | 01:52 |
| Bashing-om | Code Blue and attempt to resuscitate ? | 01:56 |
| nicomachus | nuke and pave | 01:58 |
| nicomachus | ? | 01:58 |
| Bashing-om | Nnooo .. Let's not consider a ressurection - just yet . Fibulation or organ transplants ? | 02:00 |
| nicomachus | i'm in over my head 99% of the time when it comes to networking issues. Almost seems easier to backup and reinstall at this point. | 02:01 |
| Bashing-om | Well, yeah . sometimes that is the fastest . Sometimes not the solution . I recall one time 3 days solid effort to find a bent pin on the NIC . | 02:03 |
| nicomachus | I can't even *ping* this machine. | 02:07 |
| nicomachus | which means icmp got disallowed somehow too. | 02:08 |
| nicomachus | oh boy | 02:16 |
| nicomachus | ohhhhh wow. | 02:16 |
| nicomachus | my dhcp settings got flushed... the internal IP changed. fml. | 02:17 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 03:43 |
| Bashing-om | o/ lotuspsychje | 03:46 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there Bashing-om | 03:46 |
| lotuspsychje | all ok there? | 03:47 |
| Bashing-om | Too slow . Ya need to "wake em up " :P | 03:47 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 03:48 |
| lotuspsychje | first a big coffee | 03:52 |
| Bashing-om | Lubricate the synapts. Will go much better :) | 03:54 |
| Bashing-om | (also known as motivational fluid ) | 03:55 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-needs-your-help-to-finalize-the-unity-to-gnome-shell-transition-517331.shtml | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | free pizza! | 03:57 |
| Bashing-om | No pizza for me ; As I think I fall short " experienced GNOME Shell and GTK themers, CSS experts, as well as people who are very good at identifying issues " . Think that might be a short list ? | 04:02 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 04:03 |
| EriC^^ | morning guys | 04:56 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 04:56 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: WB ;) | 05:01 |
| EriC^^ | what you guys up to | 05:05 |
| EriC^^ | pizza and stuff | 05:05 |
| EriC^^ | yum | 05:05 |
| lotuspsychje | gotta go work soon :p | 05:05 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 05:07 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: yesterday i found some kind of heaven | 05:08 |
| EriC^^ | it turns out, google isn't putting all the search results back when i search, i tried duckduckgo.com and *BAM* | 05:09 |
| EriC^^ | torrent heaven | 05:09 |
| EriC^^ | i found a site zooqle.com it has a lot of movies and other stuff | 05:09 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 05:10 |
| EriC^^ | it's crazy man, all this time i've been putting stuff and inurl:pdf for instance etc and i get nothing back | 05:10 |
| EriC^^ | i thought the warez world had gotten shit, it's google! | 05:11 |
| EriC^^ | there's war for the planet of apes there, going to d/l today | 05:11 |
| lotuspsychje | cool, lemme know if its good | 05:12 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 05:14 |
| EriC^^ | any secret recipes you've learned where you work? | 05:14 |
| EriC^^ | i bake stuff sometimes, recently discovered eclaires, pastry cream and tarts, easy and good | 05:15 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: no everything is from their ideas | 05:16 |
| EriC^^ | does your gf like baking? | 05:17 |
| lotuspsychje | sometimes yes | 05:18 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 05:18 |
| EriC^^ | been making sluchies like crazy lately | 05:19 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 05:19 |
| lotuspsychje | i love cream filled deserts :p | 05:19 |
| EriC^^ | oh yeah :D | 05:20 |
| EriC^^ | it hits the spot :D | 05:20 |
| EriC^^ | i think i ate like 12 eclaires last time and later at night i was thinking damn these eclaires arent good they hurt the stomach | 05:20 |
| EriC^^ | haha i just put 1+1 together, i ate like 24 or something | 05:20 |
| lotuspsychje | lolll | 05:21 |
| EriC^^ | i made a batch, had pastry cream left over them made another later in the afternoon | 05:21 |
| EriC^^ | they're very easy to make and they turn out just like the ones you buy | 05:21 |
| EriC^^ | the only shitty part is you have to make pastry cream, and also eclaires, so 2 separate stuff | 05:22 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 05:23 |
| EriC^^ | the sluchies are nice and easy | 05:24 |
| EriC^^ | just need a mixer that can crush ice | 05:24 |
| EriC^^ | blueberry juice with it is pretty awesome, there's also red watermelon plus lemon's juice | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | mmmm | 05:27 |
| lotuspsychje | we have a lotta cakes at work | 05:27 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 05:28 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: they all baked at a big central baker industry | 05:29 |
| lotuspsychje | then distributed to all shops | 05:30 |
| EriC^^ | ah i see | 05:32 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: cakes are motsly biologic, but heavy for eating | 05:32 |
| lotuspsychje | dark heavy chocolat etc | 05:32 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that's true | 05:41 |
| EriC^^ | how's the shop going? | 05:44 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: im at 10 invoices atm | 05:45 |
| EriC^^ | great! | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: slowly growing stable :p | 05:45 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: i hope to merge with 18.04 gnome | 05:46 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: new orders with newly ubuntu | 05:46 |
| EriC^^ | yup gotta keep it fresh | 05:48 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: i think final 17.10 might look like unity afterall | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | as they working at a sort of dock | 05:50 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 05:51 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 09:57 |
| EriC^^ | hey BluesKaj | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | Hi EriC^^ | 11:55 |
| nicomachus | TJ-! | 14:10 |
| nicomachus | hi! | 14:10 |
| TJ- | Hey! long time no be here :D I had forgotten the name of the program I used for IRC, and only muscle memory is allowing me to remember the key sequences to press | 14:12 |
| oerheks | wb TJ- | 14:12 |
| TJ- | only dropped in to try to get some help with lineageos | 14:13 |
| TJ- | How is everyone getting on? | 14:14 |
| oerheks | holliday time, easy peasy | 14:15 |
| TJ- | I'm fighting high winds and far too much rain whilst trying to install a new roof! | 14:19 |
| TJ- | Oh, and trying to get a 15km wifi link up to bring a VDSL connection in | 14:19 |
| nicomachus | well, that's just about the last 2 things you want when installing a roof. | 14:33 |
| TJ- | Literally got the roof tied down with rope right now, parts already blew off once today | 14:34 |
| oerheks | hmmmm jdk 9 is out http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2017-August/005940.html | 18:19 |
| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
| leftyfb | oerheks: I'm confused. oracle-java9-installer has been available from the webupd8team/java/ubuntu ppa for a long time now | 20:18 |
| TJ- | That's the Oracle one though, isn't it, not the OpenJDK one? | 20:19 |
| leftyfb | oh, right | 20:20 |
| TJ- | Oracle's contains proprietary code | 20:20 |
| leftyfb | how is openjdk compared to oracle these days? Has it surpassed oracle? | 20:20 |
| leftyfb | my understanding is that most of the original Sun projects have been left pretty stagnant | 20:21 |
| === nacc_ is now known as nacc | ||
| oerheks | i see no readon to use oracle blobs, but some say it makes a little difference | 20:45 |
| oerheks | c/reason | 20:45 |
| nacc | lol | 23:04 |
| nacc | what a waste of time! :/ | 23:05 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: and Casteil wonders why his systen is broke "meh, I don't have time for this' :( | 23:06 |
| nacc | yeah | 23:06 |
| nacc | although if it's just a headless irc bouncer, just reimage it | 23:06 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: Ya got a bit of time for explanation IRT git install method ? | 23:07 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: sure | 23:08 |
| Bashing-om | Not knowing nada of snap . what is the advantage of installing git " sudo snap install --classic git-ubuntu " ? | 23:10 |
| nacc | leaving aside classic for a moment | 23:11 |
| nacc | as the owner of the application in question | 23:11 |
| nacc | I can specify exactly what version of every dependency should be used by my snap | 23:11 |
| nacc | because all of my dependencies ship in the snap | 23:11 |
| nacc | (a snap is a squashfs image) | 23:11 |
| nacc | so as long as my PATH and PYTHONPATH, etc. are set correctly (to refer to paths in my snap, which are well-defined by snapd), then I control *exactly* how my snap runs | 23:12 |
| nacc | on every system it is running on | 23:12 |
| nacc | and it no longer matters what version of, e.g., git, Ubuntu ships with | 23:12 |
| nacc | I have my own | 23:12 |
| nacc | and also means you don't need to install git on your system, the snap has its own | 23:12 |
| nacc | In confined snaps that's a hard requirement (they can't actually see the system filesystem) | 23:13 |
| nacc | In a classic snap, they are more like regular debs and they can use system-installed stuff. I'm trying to avoid that, just for my own sanity (it means my test matrix is exactly what I build on, and nothign else) | 23:13 |
| nacc | gawd, how useless would ssh be if you could only ssh once per-user, per-host?? | 23:15 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: Great I be convinced of snap . Time to get my feet wet with snap packaging as that is going to be the future . | 23:20 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: it makes a *ton* of sense (i think the problem they are trying to solve is the same as flatpak) for upstream projects | 23:21 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: for end-user applications | 23:21 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: I will see what I can learn . See what the water feels like 1st . git is a great way to start . | 23:23 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: and tbh, i'm not using snap optimally -- because i'm still a relative noob python developer, so we're not yet structure in a way that can use the python plugin to just "build" our snap | 23:24 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: so instead, we copy it in and I have my own wrapper scripts | 23:24 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: what's really interesting is even though my snap contains `git`, youc an't call it directly | 23:25 |
| nacc | you can only call git-ubuntu, because that's the only app I've defined | 23:25 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: ^ so I have read . daunting how much I have to learn and I still have so much to learn about apt :) | 23:31 |
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