[05:55] <didrocks> good morning
[06:04] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[06:05] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[06:05] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:10] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN
[06:12] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:20] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:33] <duflu> Morning didrocks, oSoMoN, seb128
[06:33] <didrocks> hey duflu, how goes?
[06:34] <duflu> didrocks, going well. You?
[06:36] <didrocks> duflu: excellent!
[06:36] <didrocks> seb128: Laney: so, Allison +1 on us distro-patching glib with it
[06:37] <didrocks> muktupavels: ^
[06:37] <duflu> oSoMoN, after this morning's updates you will find totem and mpv use VAAPI by default with no parameters required. All working in both Xorg and Wayland sessions. Although I strongly recommend mpv because totem's performance is still pretty bad, for other reasons
[06:37] <didrocks> she won't have time to write tests before merging before some days
[06:38] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[06:38] <duflu> seb128, I'm OK. You?
[06:38] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[06:38] <seb128> duflu, totem performances look like something we might be able to resolve this cycle as well? or more fundamental issues?
[06:39] <duflu> seb128, I will look at it very soon. Hopefully this cycle it will be resolved
[06:40] <seb128> great
[06:40] <duflu> seb128, crucially I have now excluded most of the clutter-gst  performance issues that the totem maintainer pointed at. Now clutter-gst performs well and it's only totem that doesn't
[06:43] <oSoMoN> duflu, that's great, well done on tackling this!
[06:43] <seb128> is that because totem uses clutter-gst?
[06:44] <duflu> seb128, yes totem only uses cluttergst. So it seems nobody ever looked into the performance issues yet, just assuming it was all cluttergst
[06:44] <seb128> Bastien was his typical agressive on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783850 :-/
[06:45] <duflu> seb128, that's fine. I will assume he's right until totally proven otherwise. No need to upset him
[06:47] <duflu> All further comments are pure speculation
[06:48] <seb128> right
[08:11] <willcooke> morning
[08:11] <seb128> good morning willcooke
[08:11] <seb128> how are you today?
[08:11] <davmor2> morning willcooke seb128 and all
[08:11] <willcooke> I'm ok, bit of sunshine again instead of November like it was all day yesterday
[08:13] <seb128> hey davmor2, how are you?
[08:13] <willcooke> Hi davmor2!
[08:13] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[08:14] <willcooke> afternoon duflu, how goes?
[08:15] <duflu> willcooke, goes OK. 95% today... https://trello.com/c/3tMZbqwd
[08:15] <duflu> (I separated the cards)
[08:16] <davmor2> seb128: well I manage to grip to the outside of this spinning space rock for another 366 days, I'm gainfully employed again and I have a wonderful wife so not at all bad :D
[08:16] <willcooke> Congrats duflu - this is awesome!
[08:16] <willcooke> davmor2, are you still working from home?
[08:17] <davmor2> I am currently but it will be from customer sites
[08:17] <willcooke> oSoMoN, how do you feel about shipping those patches in Cr. in Ubuntu?
[08:17] <willcooke> oSoMoN, vs waiting for them to land upstream
[08:19] <willcooke> davmor2, neat! Getting out and about is always fun
[08:30] <oSoMoN> willcooke, I’d rather wait for them to land upstream, but given that they won't apply before the 62 branch, that gives us almost 12 weeks
[08:31] <oSoMoN> I mean, if we decide to ship them as a distro patch, that would be in 12 weeks at the earliest
[08:31] <oSoMoN> so hopefully they will have landed upstream by then
[08:34] <davmor2> willcooke: lots of experience on different platforms and setups is the biggy for me.
[08:34] <willcooke> oSoMoN, ack, thanks
[08:35] <willcooke> davmor2, mainly linux?
[08:37] <davmor2> willcooke: I suspect not, especially as the first thing I had to do was create an office 365 account :D
[08:37] <willcooke> :)
[08:39] <davmor2> willcooke: on a plus side I now understand why businesses love the outlook suite and why people say that evolution/thunderbird/kontact and others suck
[08:40] <seb128> why?
[08:47] <willcooke> seb128, I think we have some kind of psychic link going on here :)  I just thought "Oh, I wonder what's happening with the Rhythmbox plugin MIR..." and you just updated the bug :) \o/
[08:47] <seb128> willcooke, :-)
[08:47] <seb128> hopefully cyphermox ack it next
[08:47] <davmor2> seb128: the integration between mail/calendar/todo is just so much better than on any of the linux apps I've used.  All the linux apps seem positively clunky and backward in comparison.  It's just a feel thing more than anything else
[08:48] <seb128> davmor2, linux users use gmail and google calendar anyway right? ;-)
[08:48] <willcooke> :)
[08:50] <davmor2> seb128: which is just as sucky as the desktop apps :P  for example had an interview for the one company, dragged the email to calendar icon, it set up the appointment in the calendar with all the relevant details from the email
[09:33] <seb128> k, I start early and I'm starving, time to get some lunch
[09:57] <muktupavels> didrocks: gnome bug 357058? did you put correct bug number in changelog?
[10:03] <didrocks> muktupavels: waow, was I flying high? no number matches https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746592
[10:03] <didrocks> muktupavels: anyway, once upstreamed, we'll just sync back from debian
[10:04] <didrocks> so the changelog will be history
[13:57] <Mirv> davmor2: sounds fun! I also now got my first ever o365 account, although I've logged in maybe twice in two months and found it horribly slow and awful - maybe it gets better but it seems similar to all the electron apps in its slowness. But I set up the calendar in Thunderbird so I haven't needed to use the web interface anymore (e-mail isn't being used from there)
[13:58] <Mirv> I also found the UX very unintuitive - for example I was able to show a calendar but I couldn't create events to it before finding a way to actually "join" that calendar, and nothing guided the first-timer to do that
[13:59] <Mirv> but sure since there's only Evolution which has all of the stuff baked in by default and it's not exactly a masterpiece, the integration is probably better and speed wouldn't be an issue with native versions of those features
[14:01] <Mirv> anyway, it's not the technical or UX goodness of it that has businesses lured into it, but the general vendor lock-in traps everywhere starting from the document formats. so it wouldn't really help if linux had the perfect suite either.
[14:02] <davmor2> Mirv: I just leave it open in a tab
[14:02] <davmor2> no issues then
[14:03] <Mirv> davmor2: noooo.. that's the last thing I want, o365, slack or some such to be ever executing javascript in the background
[14:03] <Mirv> for slack I obviously set it up in irssi ;)
[14:03] <Mirv> I'm on my laptop and often on the move so battery life matters
[14:04] <Mirv> anyway, it wouldn't hurt if there was a good linux bundle with actual productization and marketing there that would be the clear "winner". sure there are good ones out there but none have the visibility of eg OpenOffice [sic]
[14:12] <cyphermox> seb128: willcooke: rhythmbox-toolbar-oh-my-god-such-a-long-name MIR is acked :)
[14:13] <willcooke> cyphermox, thanks!
[14:15] <didrocks> is it a new plugin that needs to be enabled by default ?
[14:15] <didrocks> (just to know, I have a pending ubuntu-settings for next week, just give me a head's up if I'll need to refresh based on it)
[14:22] <willcooke> didrocks, yeah new default plugin
[14:31] <seb128> cyphermox, great, thanks
[14:31] <seb128> didrocks, yes, I'm going to change that later today
[14:31] <didrocks> seb128: ok, keep me posted so that I can rebase my commits
[14:31] <seb128> k
[14:31] <didrocks> if only git rebase :p
[14:31] <didrocks> I'll just merge I think
[14:33] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi, I am not very happy with the debian/changelog of your firefox 55 upload
[14:38] <seb128> ricotz, hey, what's the issue with it?
[14:41] <ricotz> seb128, hi, basically dropped credits
[14:42] <seb128> :-/
[14:43] <seb128> when I plug my phone to my laptop GNOME displays a notification "android" (https://bug786115.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=357343)
[14:43] <seb128> how useful
[14:43] <seb128> I understand the intend but it wouldn't be that difficult to have a description that says something
[14:43] <seb128> like "'android' device detected"
[14:43] <seb128> </GNOME rant of the day>
[15:49] <seb128> bah, rhythmbox upload rejected
[15:49] <seb128> jbicha, seems like you didn't commit your previous upload to the vcs :-/
[15:51] <seb128> jbicha, can you commit it?
[15:53] <seb128> brb, changing location
[15:58] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, your hack in prepare to add a ppa should work in cleanbuild right?
[15:59] <kenvandine> flexiondotorg ^^
[16:00] <kenvandine> oh... nevermind :)
[16:06] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, was that really a question for me?
[16:07] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, yes... you had the hack in your chromium snap to add a ppa in prepare
[16:07] <kenvandine> i was trying to do that... but realized i need to do an upgrade as well
[16:07] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, basically i figured it out after i asked you :)
[16:07] <oSoMoN> ok
[16:08] <kenvandine> i wasn't trying to install a specific package, just build against a ppa
[16:08] <kenvandine> it was populating the container before the prepare
[16:08] <kenvandine> so i needed to add an apt upgrade
[16:08] <oSoMoN> right
[16:16] <jbicha> seb128: I guess you should just push to the rhythmbox bzr branch now…
[16:52] <seb128> jbicha, ok
[16:52] <seb128> need to fix also the build issue I introduced by manually repatching after the failed upload :-/
[16:55] <jbicha> seb128: are you intending to work on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/poppler.html ?
[16:56] <jbicha> it overlaps https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/gdcm.html
[17:19] <willcooke> night all
[19:44] <seb128> jbicha, I didn't plan to, I sponsored for ricotz, but I'm probably going to have a look/help next week if it's stucked
[21:15] <spazm> I've had bluetooth issues after sleep on 17.10.  What can I do to iogs estigate and report: logs to collect and experiments to run?  (dell xps-13 9360)