lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:20 |
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mr-jules | good morning bud | 05:39 |
lotuspsychje | hi mr-jules | 05:47 |
lotuspsychje | updated 17.10 but no sign of a dock yet | 05:47 |
lotuspsychje | https://www.itnews.com.au/news/microsoft-patches-first-critical-linux-on-windows-bug-470426 | 05:52 |
lotuspsychje | lol | 05:52 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 10:13 |
ducasse | \o BluesKaj | 10:14 |
ducasse | wow, on my artful machine: "138 packages can be upgraded." - it was last upgraded yesterday :) | 10:14 |
BluesKaj | o/ ducasse | 10:14 |
BluesKaj | yeah, new kernel version too | 10:15 |
ducasse | and g++ | 10:15 |
BluesKaj | 84 packages upgraded here, but I don't have the PIMs or the office suite | 10:17 |
brunch | ubuntu rollin' when :) | 10:18 |
BluesKaj | brunch, we're talking about Artful 17.10 | 10:19 |
brunch | I gave it a go, it was beautiful | 10:20 |
ducasse | i don't have any office stuff either, not even a de. | 10:20 |
BluesKaj | ducasse, using a wm | 10:26 |
ducasse | BluesKaj: yes, same here | 10:30 |
BluesKaj | no I use kde/plasma, was asking if you use a wm :-) | 10:31 |
BluesKaj | I forgot the ? | 10:31 |
BluesKaj | i3? | 10:32 |
ducasse | i3, yes. i find it works well both on my 3-monitor desktop and this laptop with small screen. | 10:33 |
* BluesKaj nods | 10:33 | |
ducasse | the multihead handling is really good, treating each screen completely independently | 10:34 |
BluesKaj | why 3 monitors if you use a wm? | 10:35 |
ducasse | because you can't see several virtual desktops simultaneously on one screen | 10:36 |
BluesKaj | assume this 3 monitor setup is for work then | 10:38 |
ducasse | part work, part hobby | 10:40 |
ducasse | BluesKaj: how's your weather today? the rain and thunder has finally passed here, it seems | 10:42 |
BluesKaj | I use VDs but I have them pinned to separate apps, and one extra for miscellaneous on my TV | 10:42 |
BluesKaj | all on my TV that is | 10:43 |
BluesKaj | yerah, we have a simi iar forecast for the next few days | 10:44 |
lordievader | I got too used to the KDE/plasma way of doing multiple displays, don't like the way I3 does things in this department. | 10:46 |
BluesKaj | I tried the i3 on my laptop, it was interesting for a while , but I still prefer a DE | 10:47 |
ducasse | thankfully i3 has already been 'ported' to wayland :-p | 10:48 |
lordievader | I rather like the tiling stuff, but I never could get it just right. | 10:48 |
BluesKaj | <---old windows guy , so i'm used to a DE | 10:48 |
lordievader | ducasse: Oeh, are you doing wayland? | 10:48 |
ducasse | only played with it so far, it's still missing stuff | 10:49 |
BluesKaj | tried fedora 26 with wayland ahd gnome, smooth and fast , but it's gnome :/ | 10:53 |
BluesKaj | ahd = and | 10:53 |
brunch | I'm on f26 right now | 10:54 |
brunch | gnome is pretty neat, but there's some forced vsync stuff going on | 10:54 |
BluesKaj | kde/plasma runs poorly on wayland apparently | 10:54 |
brunch | so games run like crap unless they're in fullscreen | 10:55 |
brunch | which is a bummer since I always play windows | 10:55 |
lordievader | ducasse: No dpi (or scaling) issues? | 10:57 |
lordievader | Last time I tried Plasma on Wayland everything was huge! So I figured, but we have xrandr.... oh wait. | 10:57 |
ducasse | none that i've seen so far, but i'm also worried about the lack of tools like xrandr. | 11:02 |
oerheks | seriously, how hard can it be, gparted/ changing partitions, graphically | 12:34 |
lordievader | oerheks: What do you mean? | 12:39 |
oerheks | he is dragging the partition size just the wrong way, over and over again | 12:39 |
oerheks | i am not sure how to clear this up | 12:40 |
BluesKaj | delete the partition then choose new | 12:43 |
oerheks | :-D | 12:44 |
BluesKaj | unless there's data he wants to save | 12:44 |
oerheks | He has got it now.. | 12:47 |
ducasse | oerheks: it took a lot of effort, though :) | 12:54 |
oerheks | Yeah, sometimes it is hard to find a way to make it clear, i thought i explained well .. | 12:55 |
oerheks | WHen you have done this once, it is easy, i know | 12:56 |
oerheks | now wait and let him reinstall grub | 12:56 |
* ducasse grabs a 10-foot pole | 12:57 | |
ducasse | nacc: he's just trying to run a toshiba tool from a live usb, no need for gksu i think. note: it's taken him two hours to put 'sudo ' in front of his command, and he still can't do it. | 14:40 |
nacc | ducasse: ah ha | 14:42 |
nacc | ducasse: thanks for the context (just waking up here) | 14:42 |
* ducasse looks forward to the day realtek is prevented from making wifi chipsets due to repeated incompetence | 15:05 | |
oerheks | mayb i should not have given the ppa, but then again, he would need to rebuild the driver with any kernelupdeet | 15:18 |
ducasse | ppa is probably easier, but lets see if the driver even works :) | 15:20 |
ducasse | cool, did not know ubuntu now had a refind package... i need to try this. | 16:44 |
oerheks | ducasse, did you stumble across this ? https://gist.github.com/Brainiarc7/dfff8321b94fd666eb64eda0382f6813 | 16:45 |
ducasse | oerheks: nope, thanks! | 16:47 |
ducasse | looks interesting... | 16:47 |
oerheks | I have seen this beiing used a few weeks back, but with troubles. | 16:47 |
oerheks | not sure it still is troubling.. | 16:47 |
oerheks | WHere did you find your info? | 16:48 |
ducasse | hihi, see those horrid incantations for setting up secure boot keys etc :) | 16:51 |
ducasse | oh, someone just mentioned trying refind in #ubuntu, and i noticed there is now a package in the repos | 16:51 |
oerheks | oh indeed, time to drop this from my bookmarks | 16:52 |
ducasse | only zesty, though | 16:54 |
oerheks | good enough | 16:55 |
oerheks | King Willie https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/royal-announcement-william-kate-officially-021200634.html | 16:55 |
nicomachus | moving chromium/chrome discussion here. | 17:01 |
nicomachus | BluesKaj: I just like the blue icon. :D | 17:01 |
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BluesKaj | ducasse, fradeco uses kde/plasma, he was asking in kubuntu earlier | 19:23 |
ducasse | BluesKaj: ah, unknown territory to me then | 19:24 |
BluesKaj | ducasse, unless he thinks it's a 'buntu thing | 19:26 |
BluesKaj | ask anywhere 'buntu for answrers | 19:26 |
BluesKaj | ducasse, now he tells me he runs gnome | 19:27 |
ducasse | suspicious | 19:27 |
BluesKaj | he's new to irc apparently | 19:30 |
ducasse | echo XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP, should tell you the desktop | 19:34 |
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