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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:20
mr-julesgood morning bud05:39
lotuspsychjehi mr-jules05:47
lotuspsychjeupdated 17.10 but no sign of a dock yet05:47
lotuspsychjehttps://www.itnews.com.au/news/microsoft-patches-first-critical-linux-on-windows-bug-47042605:52
lotuspsychjelol05:52
BluesKajHey folks10:13
ducasse\o BluesKaj10:14
ducassewow, on my artful machine: "138 packages can be upgraded." - it was last upgraded yesterday :)10:14
BluesKajo/ ducasse10:14
BluesKajyeah, new kernel version too10:15
ducasseand g++10:15
BluesKaj84 packages upgraded here, but I don't have the PIMs or the office suite10:17
brunchubuntu rollin' when :)10:18
BluesKajbrunch, we're talking about Artful 17.1010:19
brunchI gave it a go, it was beautiful10:20
ducassei don't have any office stuff either, not even a de.10:20
BluesKajducasse, using a  wm10:26
ducasseBluesKaj: yes, same here10:30
BluesKajno I use kde/plasma, was asking if you use a wm :-)10:31
BluesKajI forgot the ?10:31
BluesKaji3?10:32
ducassei3, yes. i find it works well both on my 3-monitor desktop and this laptop with small screen.10:33
* BluesKaj nods10:33
ducassethe multihead handling is really good, treating each screen completely independently10:34
BluesKajwhy 3 monitors if you use a wm?10:35
ducassebecause you can't see several virtual desktops simultaneously on one screen10:36
BluesKajassume this 3 monitor setup is for work then10:38
ducassepart work, part hobby10:40
ducasseBluesKaj: how's your weather today? the rain and thunder has finally passed here, it seems10:42
BluesKajI use VDs but I have them pinned to separate apps, and one extra for miscellaneous on my TV10:42
BluesKajall on my TV that is10:43
BluesKajyerah, we have a simi iar forecast  for the next few days10:44
lordievaderI got too used to the KDE/plasma way of doing multiple displays, don't like the way I3 does things in this department.10:46
BluesKajI tried the i3 on my laptop, it was interesting for a while , but I still prefer a DE10:47
ducassethankfully i3 has already been 'ported' to wayland :-p10:48
lordievaderI rather like the tiling stuff, but I never could get it just right.10:48
BluesKaj<---old windows guy , so i'm used to a DE10:48
lordievaderducasse: Oeh, are you doing wayland?10:48
ducasseonly played with it so far, it's still missing stuff10:49
BluesKajtried fedora 26 with wayland ahd gnome, smooth and fast , but it's gnome :/10:53
BluesKajahd = and10:53
brunchI'm on f26 right now10:54
brunchgnome is pretty neat, but there's some forced vsync stuff going on10:54
BluesKajkde/plasma runs poorly on wayland apparently10:54
brunchso games run like crap unless they're in fullscreen10:55
brunchwhich is a bummer since I always play windows10:55
lordievaderducasse: No dpi (or scaling) issues?10:57
lordievaderLast time I tried Plasma on Wayland everything was huge! So I figured, but we have xrandr.... oh wait.10:57
ducassenone that i've seen so far, but i'm also worried about  the lack of tools like xrandr.11:02
oerheksseriously, how hard can it be, gparted/ changing partitions, graphically12:34
lordievaderoerheks: What do you mean?12:39
oerhekshe is dragging the partition size just the wrong way, over and over again12:39
oerheksi am not sure how to clear this up12:40
BluesKajdelete the partition then choose new12:43
oerheks:-D12:44
BluesKajunless there's data he wants to save12:44
oerheksHe has got it now..12:47
ducasseoerheks: it took a lot of effort, though :)12:54
oerheksYeah, sometimes it is hard to find a way to make it clear, i thought i explained well ..12:55
oerheksWHen you have done this once, it is easy, i know12:56
oerheksnow wait and let him reinstall grub12:56
* ducasse grabs a 10-foot pole12:57
ducassenacc: he's just trying to run a toshiba tool from a live usb, no need for gksu i think. note: it's taken him two hours to put 'sudo ' in front of his command, and he still can't do it.14:40
naccducasse: ah ha14:42
naccducasse: thanks for the context (just waking up here)14:42
* ducasse looks forward to the day realtek is prevented from making wifi chipsets due to repeated incompetence15:05
oerheksmayb i should not have given the ppa, but then again, he would need to rebuild the driver with any kernelupdeet15:18
ducasseppa is probably easier, but lets see if the driver even works :)15:20
ducassecool, did not know ubuntu now had a refind package... i need to try this.16:44
oerheksducasse, did you stumble across this ? https://gist.github.com/Brainiarc7/dfff8321b94fd666eb64eda0382f681316:45
ducasseoerheks: nope, thanks!16:47
ducasselooks interesting...16:47
oerheksI have seen this beiing used a few weeks back, but with troubles.16:47
oerheksnot sure it still is troubling..16:47
oerheksWHere did you find your info?16:48
ducassehihi, see those horrid incantations for setting up secure boot keys etc :)16:51
ducasseoh, someone just mentioned trying refind in #ubuntu, and i noticed there is now a package in the repos16:51
oerheksoh indeed, time to drop this from my bookmarks16:52
ducasseonly zesty, though16:54
oerheksgood enough16:55
oerheksKing Willie https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/royal-announcement-william-kate-officially-021200634.html16:55
nicomachusmoving chromium/chrome discussion here.17:01
nicomachusBluesKaj: I just like the blue icon. :D17:01
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BluesKajducasse, fradeco uses kde/plasma, he was asking in kubuntu earlier19:23
ducasseBluesKaj: ah, unknown territory to me then19:24
BluesKajducasse, unless he thinks it's a 'buntu thing19:26
BluesKajask anywhere 'buntu for answrers19:26
BluesKajducasse, now he tells me he runs gnome19:27
ducassesuspicious19:27
BluesKajhe's new to irc apparently19:30
ducasseecho XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP, should tell you the desktop19:34
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