| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:01 |
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| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:05 |
| brobostigon | morning davmor2 | 08:10 |
| awilkins | Anyone use rmtoo? | 10:40 |
| diplo | Nope, never seen it before | 10:45 |
| awilkins | Constantly wanting requirements management that works well for me. Keep wanting to do something with graphviz ; this seems to have the concept of directed graphs in it | 10:47 |
| awilkins | But it's a Hard Mode tool it seems, it's a bugger to even set up and get working | 10:47 |
| diplo | Is this to setup enviroments for dev etc from my quick read over it ? | 10:47 |
| awilkins | It uses `make` to generate outputs... | 10:48 |
| diplo | Just got to that bit, not something we'd need I guess so can't see the use of it, albeit our software devs are writing ancient code :) | 10:49 |
| awilkins | And you need to set up a bunch of things including TeX | 10:50 |
| diplo | I tried TeX once, that was an experience | 10:50 |
| awilkins | I have grandiose ideas about big systems and I need a tool to manage the dependency graph so I know what to work on ... | 10:50 |
| awilkins | Or at least have something to present | 10:51 |
| diplo | I'd love to be in that position, I just think our company will never get there before we go bust | 10:51 |
| awilkins | Wowzer, TeX is 39 years old | 10:52 |
| awilkins | Only 9 releases in all that time | 10:53 |
| awilkins | Well, since v3 | 10:55 |
| awilkins | Then you have XeTeX, which supports unicode | 10:58 |
| diplo | hah - well stable and does what is says on the tin I guess | 11:03 |
| diddledan | how does a default route without a gateway ip address assigned work? (I've seen cases where it is configured like that and works fine, but most of the time configs require a gateway ip) | 11:35 |
| diplo | So no gateway= set in interfaces/ifcfg-eth0 type thing | 11:36 |
| diplo | On RH based systems you also have /etc/sysconfig/network that has a default route. | 11:37 |
| diddledan | basically just `ip route add default dev eth0` | 11:37 |
| diplo | And when you do ip route it displays 0.0.0.0 ? | 11:37 |
| diddledan | there is no ip assigned at all | 11:37 |
| diddledan | the destination address is 0.0.0.0 though, yes | 11:38 |
| diddledan | destination 0.0.0.0, no gateway, dev eth0 | 11:39 |
| diddledan | I need to configure one to find out what it outputs on the route command 'cos I can't remember off the top of my head | 11:39 |
| diplo | So shouldn't work externally, we have this happen at our sites, it'll still route on the same subnet just not go out over the internet | 11:39 |
| diddledan | but it does work, that's the point | 11:40 |
| diddledan | I've seen it work | 11:40 |
| diddledan | so I want to know WHY it worked in those cases when usually it shouldn't | 11:40 |
| diplo | Then I have no idea, ours never do, we've had sites drop their gateway - bug in Cent6 and it does the above, never seen yours work like that, then again, if it works I may not have seen it :) | 11:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | the data must flow.... :-) | 11:42 |
| diddledan | WORMSIGN! | 11:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | *thump* *thump* *thump* | 11:42 |
| diddledan | maud dib will save us! | 11:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | he who controls the data controls the universe | 11:45 |
| diddledan | he who controls the universe is quite spicey! | 11:50 |
| davmor2 | Do we have Wormsign......Maud dib, we have Wormsign the likes that God has never seen | 11:52 |
| davmor2 | now I have to watch Dune again what a hard ship | 11:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | the movie or the tv mini series? | 11:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | the movie is incredibly beautiful but unfaithful to the books, the mini series is better but lacks the visual punch of lynchs movie | 11:54 |
| Oli | It's also pretty tedious to have somebody just reading 10 minutes of lore at your. It's more like a narrated play. | 12:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | in the beginning there was the server and it was good... | 12:40 |
| diddledan | and the server was in the darkness, and needed to see, so it spun up the hard disk array and all the blinken flashen | 12:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | and lo did the os boot | 12:44 |
| diddledan | and then the server created process 1 but felt it was lonely so it forked a second process out of the first | 12:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | and adobe flash decided to update... | 12:45 |
| diddledan | and thus began armagedden | 12:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | thus spake zombieos | 12:46 |
| diddledan | I'd hate to see a flash process turn into a zombie | 12:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | and there was much disk trashing | 12:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | and yea did the uesr fire up chrome to find a solution... | 12:52 |
| diddledan | and google advertised | 12:52 |
| diddledan | I really need to set up static dns entries for some of my boxes - I have no idea what IP they're using and want to ssh into them to update them | 12:54 |
| awilkins | My router has a DNS server that works for the DHCP leases it assigns... but not from the router itself *arrrg* | 12:57 |
| foobarry | did i miss the bit where p0p3y quit hanging out here? | 13:02 |
| foobarry | haven't seen him for long time | 13:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | i use nmap to find them when they shift ip after a reboot. it means i constantly find new stuff people are adding to the network :-) | 13:18 |
| m0nkey_ | Watch out, m0nkey_ is about! | 13:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | m0nkey_ magic, m0nkey_ magic ::theme tune:: | 13:20 |
| diplo | foobarry: he was in here the other day, I pinged him specifically mind :) he's active on Telegram podcast channel too | 13:23 |
| foobarry | its official, irc is dying | 13:27 |
| foobarry | dieing | 13:27 |
| foobarry | whatever | 13:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's august slowdown as people go on holliers and those left have to cover for those off | 13:28 |
| diplo | Nah, it's been dead in here forever | 13:32 |
| diplo | Same peeps all the time really | 13:32 |
| === zmoylan-pi is now known as fake_tache | ||
| fake_tache | really? | 13:33 |
| diplo | 77 nicks and a fair few of those are dups / bots probably only 10 of us who actually talk actively ish | 13:33 |
| === fake_tache is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| awilkins | In the worlds before m0nkey_, primal chaos reigned.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS_5BORSayc | 13:39 |
| diplo | I prefer fake_tache zmoylan-pi :) | 13:56 |
| diddledan | doo be doo | 16:11 |
| diddledan | alternatively: don't be don't | 16:11 |
| diddledan | what the actual?! https://twitter.com/chordbug/status/895679096470085632 | 16:12 |
| * Laney makes some noise | 16:24 | |
| Laney | I used to be in a really active IRC channel when I was a teenager, then over a few months it completely died | 16:25 |
| Laney | a few people stopped coming on when they went to university or similar, then it snowballed from there | 16:26 |
| Laney | SAD! | 16:26 |
| diddledan | aye, I've had a couple situations over the years where a community just died | 16:26 |
| diddledan | last major one was ircqnet #computers channel (the whole of the network is gone now) | 16:27 |
| diddledan | I was in that channel for over a decade before it went south | 16:27 |
| diddledan | many folk came and went in that time | 16:27 |
| knightwise | Evenin peeps | 18:17 |
| brobostigon | evening knightwise | 18:20 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon how are you doing dude | 18:21 |
| brobostigon | knightwise: yes not bad, and you? | 18:22 |
| knightwise | doing ok , rearranging the home office to see if we can make a little more room for an extra trainee we will be having over | 18:22 |
| brobostigon | i know that feeling, rearraging out my study to make space for a possible nursery. | 18:24 |
| knightwise | aha :) little jedy on the way too ? | 18:24 |
| brobostigon | yes, :) | 18:25 |
| knightwise | congratulations dude | 18:26 |
| brobostigon | ty, :) | 18:26 |
| brobostigon | knightwise: issue here is, my kate is bipolar and with the medications she has for it, we just need to hope, because her meds can cause a malforme baby. | 18:27 |
| knightwise | man ... thats bad.. We are rootin for ya | 18:35 |
| brobostigon | knightwise: thank you. greatly appreciated. | 18:40 |
| knightwise | off to the couch | 18:44 |
| knightwise | got an episode of Hinterland I want to catch up on | 18:44 |
| knightwise | then beeeed ! its been a VERY long week | 18:44 |
| brobostigon | :) | 18:46 |
| diddledan | I like the quote on the end of this article from another security guy: "If you're going to start a rebellion amongst all your red-teamers, don't do it at Defcon." http://www.zdnet.com/article/salesforce-fires-red-team-staffers-who-gave-defcon-talk/ | 23:26 |
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