[00:00] <chull> he was looking for something to download
[00:00] <pavlos> chull: since you know command line, use the lines I gave earlier
[00:02] <pavlos> chull: fyi, email clients allow you to attach many files in an email
[00:03] <pavlos> chull: fyi, I use gmail, I can attach 10-20 images and send
[00:03] <chull> pavlos, and privacy laws say no email accepted
[00:03] <pavlos> chull: ok
[00:03] <chull> pavlos, i need to compress them and upload them
[00:03] <pavlos> chull: try the command line
[00:04] <pavlos> chull: dfc contains images and other dirs
[00:04] <chull> pavlos, it contains six pdfs
[00:04] <pavlos> chull: fine, in command line, zip my.zip dfc/*
[00:04] <chull> ponders if we could send it without compressing
[00:05] <pavlos> it should create a file my.zip
[00:06] <pavlos> chull: how will you send the zip file if email is not accepted?
[00:06] <chull> pavlos, will anything easy give me the path to that director?
[00:07] <chull> directory
[00:07] <pavlos> you're in your home dir /home/chull
[00:07] <chull> yes atm. the file is in xyz > cbq > kfm > etc etc etc etc etc etc
[00:08] <pavlos> you mean the files inside dfc/ ? they could be anything pdf, kfm, xyz
[00:08] <chull> pavlos, no. hubby likes to keep everything super organzized, so someone like me who uses command line has to navigate forever to find them
[00:09] <chull> to use zip i either have to tell it the path to the directory or BE in the directory to zip it
[00:09] <pavlos> chull: that task is to zip the dfc and its contents, right? ... zip my.zip dfc/* will do so
[00:11] <pavlos> chull: you're at home dir, the command could be rewritten as, zip /home/chull/my.zip /home/chull/dfc/*
[00:11] <pavlos> chull: you dont need to reference you're at home dir
[00:12] <pavlos> chull: zip is usually /usr/bin/zip
[00:12] <chull> zip /home/chull/my.zip /home/chull/dfc/  .. we are on the way
[00:15] <pavlos> chull: the terminal should list (adding ... adding ... until completed. See the file my.zip created
[00:16] <pavlos> chull: you can test with, unzip -t my.zip to verify what was zipped
[00:18] <chull> pavlos, we got it thanks so very much :)
[00:20] <pavlos> chull: np
[00:21] <Bashing-om> !cookie | pavlos
[00:22] <vex8ion> forgot password help please
[00:23] <Bashing-om> vex8ion: Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[00:23] <vex8ion> thanks... I thought I got bounced again
[00:44] <jackhum> hello, this is what my disk partition looks like , http://picpaste.com/pics/Selection_002-fhPfuZav.1502325787.png , i deleted the EFI partition without knowing it is necessary to boot my triple boot system with windows , ubuntu and kali , can anyone tell me how to fix this and not render my system unbootable, i am currently in my ubuntu , and i think i will break it as soon as i restart
[00:45] <jackhum> hi
[00:56] <pavlos> jackhum: maybe this might help ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/706414/accidentally-deleted-efi-partition
[00:59] <jackhum> pavlos, once deleted a partition using gparted , is there any way i can get it back :P
[01:00] <jackhum> i am in middle of nowhere and i dont even have a usb with me, if i close this , i wont be able to come back
[01:00] <jackhum> fml
[01:02] <pumba> jackhum: sounds like a disaster
[01:03] <Bashing-om> jackhum: In a disaster testdisk might help .
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !testdisk | jackhum
[01:03] <jackhum> pumba, a huge one, atleast now i know never delete a partition labeled as EFI
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !info testdisk | jackhum
[01:05] <jackhum> actually i have windows ubuntu and kali triple boot making 3 primary partition , i wanted to create one more partition common to them to store my files and multimedia stuff , but gparted said to me that you cant have more than 4 primary partition , so i delted the smalles 1000 MB one
[01:08] <pumba> jackhum: i wish i knew what to do myself.. id be more lost than you if that happened to me
[01:09] <jackhum> pumba, i am pretty sure , the moment this computer shut down . i will not be able to come back
[01:10] <jackhum> anyway i can just make my ubunntu and kali start , i will ditch window
[01:11] <pumba> ehhh keep trying
[01:11] <pumba> dont give up
[01:14] <jackhum> the problem is the only way to know if this is fixed is by restarting , and i will get only one shot
[01:15] <jackhum> anyway to check this without restarting
[01:15] <kenrin> can you partprobe and see the partition ?
[01:17] <jackhum> kenrin , what command should run
[01:17] <kenrin> partprobe -s
[01:18] <jackhum> kenrin, i tried partprobe -s , it shows no output
[01:19] <[n0mad]> fwiw i get no output from that command either
[01:19] <kenrin> strange,  it supposed to update the partitions and list them
[01:19] <kenrin> try fdisk -l now and see if the efi is there
[01:19] <kenrin> or parted -l,  whatever you prefer
[01:29] <arooni> how do i address this com.canonical.indicator.bluetooth schema missing when i try to load unity tweak tool'
[01:36] <grym> i'm running 16.04 on an nvidia tx-1 (aarch64).  I want to run a 32-bit binary on it --  Is there an  ARM version of `ia32-libs`?
[01:36] <grym> (right now bash flatly refuses to execute the file)
[01:41] <Fretegi> evening everyone
[01:42] <Fretegi> trying to get a scanner to work.  bit confused actually on why its not working.. this is ubuntu-mate 16.04.3, cannon mp620 device.  print works fine, simple-scan cant use it, however i have mint 17.3 on another laptop and it works perfect, same driver for printer
[01:43] <Fretegi> or should i direct this to ubuntu-mate?
[01:50] <B105PH3RE> having trouble updating getting *** Error in `appstreamcli': double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x0000000002378550 ***
[01:50] <B105PH3RE> Linux 4.4.0-89-generic #112-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 31 19:38:41 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:53] <kenrin> B105PH3RE: According to some quick searchs it has something to do with libappstream3.  Try to remove it or reinstall
[01:53] <B105PH3RE> thx kenrin i'll give that a try right now
[01:54] <B105PH3RE> outstanding kenrin that did the trick thanx a bunch
[02:39] <arunkumar413> How to install Ubuntu on USB pendrive
[02:48] <Bashing-om> arunkumar413: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 <-sudodus/Howto make USB boot drives ??
[02:57] <Paynemaster> Hello everyone
[02:57] <Paynemaster> I got a Linux issue hoping somebody can help me out here
[02:58] <Paynemaster> My mouse cursor is stuck in the top left.
[02:59] <Paynemaster> Anyone?
[03:00] <Paynemaster> Is this the #ubuntu channel?
[03:02] <hfp> Hi, I'm trying to clone my Ubuntu install to another disk. I'm using LVM+LUKS on a 180GB SSD and trying to move it over to a 120GB SSD. I resized the crypted partition and the LVM to 100GB so that it would all fit on the new smaller drive. But when I do it with clonezilla (even with -icds enabled), it never works. It says the destination disk is smaller (duh) and can't proceed. What's the secret?
[03:05] <hfp> Or should I reinstall Ubuntu on the new SSD and then rm -rf / on the partition, and copy over the files manually with cp from / on my larger SSD to / on my smaller one?
[03:06] <Paynemaster> Hello. Anyone here?
[03:07] <Paynemaster> ...
[03:07] <Paynemaster> i don't get this
[03:07] <Paynemaster> Anyone here that can help me out please?
[03:07] <hfp> Paynemaster: People don't sit in front of their computers 24/7, ask your question and when someone who knows the answer is around they'll answer you
[03:08] <Paynemaster> Ah sorry. got no clue to see who's online at the time
[03:08] <hfp> It's impossible to tell :)
[03:08] <Paynemaster> was thinking i was in the wrong channel
[03:08] <hfp> No, that's just how IRC works
[03:09] <Paynemaster> @hfp could u help me out perhaps?
[03:09] <hfp> idk, what's happening?
[03:10] <Paynemaster> @hfp I got a mouse cursor issue. It seems to get stuck in the top left corner. I can mouse arround its just invisible
[03:11] <hfp> Does your mouse work on another computer/OS?
[03:12] <Paynemaster> @hfp yes. seems to be a know problem
[03:12] <hfp> how do you know it's a known issue?
[03:13] <Paynemaster> @hfp because askubuntu.com has a thread on it
[03:13] <hfp> I see, does it have a solution/fix?
[03:15] <Paynemaster> @hfp well its somewhat all over the place. the thread is from last year. So a newer version might fixed it. but iam not sure
[03:15] <Paynemaster> @hfp i am using a usb media tool with a app on it that runs under linux. so i can't really change that
[03:16] <hfp> you cant upgrade the package?
[03:16] <Paynemaster> @hfp how?
[03:16] <hfp> is it running ubuntu?
[03:16] <Paynemaster> @hfp theres a syslinux.cfg file in it
[03:17] <hfp> what does lsb_release -a get you?
[03:17] <Paynemaster> can't tell since i am not in it right now
[03:17] <hfp> that makes things rather complicated
[03:18] <Paynemaster> @hfp can't i see a version in the files on the usb media tool?
[03:18] <hfp> what is a usb media tool?
[03:18] <Paynemaster> like bootable
[03:18] <hfp> a live cd?
[03:19] <hfp> live usb rather?
[03:19] <Paynemaster> yeah
[03:19] <Paynemaster> boot media
[03:20] <hfp> if it's causing you problem, why don't you use another/a more recent version of your distro on the liveusb?
[03:21] <Fretegi> eening
[03:21] <hfp> go get ubuntu 17.04 and put that on your liveusb, it will have more recent packages that will prob fix your issue
[03:21] <Paynemaster> @hfp i got no clue how to do that. its a tool from toshiba that created the bootable media tool.
[03:21] <Fretegi> https://pastebin.com/TFkSZtvT
[03:22] <Fretegi> ok trying to get a cannon scanner to work, thats the output from simple-scan -d  any thoughts?
[03:22] <Fretegi> prints fine, just cant scan.. thinking perhaps a libsane issue?
[03:23] <hfp> Paynemaster: download ubuntu 17.04, and use a tool like etcher.io to make a bootable usb out of it
[03:23] <Paynemaster> @hfp could u first tell me how to reply like u did i assume that is a private message?
[03:24] <hfp> how did I answer you you mean?
[03:24] <Paynemaster> yeah
[03:24] <hfp> we're chatting on the public #ubuntu channel
[03:24] <hfp> all other 1061 users on this channel can read what we're discussing
[03:25] <Paynemaster> well your nickname is in red the sudden and i hear a bleep
[03:25] <hfp> because I put your name in my answer
[03:25] <hfp> Paynemaster: like so
[03:25] <Paynemaster> yep
[03:25] <hfp> your client detects that I mentioned your nick and alerts you
[03:26] <Paynemaster> ah oke. like i am doing all the time? @hfp
[03:26] <hfp> yes
[03:26] <hfp> but dont start mentioning or /msg people at random, you wont make friends this way
[03:27] <Paynemaster> yeah i understand
[03:27] <hfp> I have to go, good luck Paynemaster. Try making a new liveusb from the latest ubuntu and see how that goes for you
[03:27] <Paynemaster> what about the tool from toshiba
[03:27] <Paynemaster> i got no clue if that still works then
[03:27] <hfp> i dont know what that tool is or what it does
[03:28] <Paynemaster> well doesnt matter
[03:28] <Paynemaster> its intergrated with the linux boot
[03:28] <hfp> if you stick around or come back at another time, maybe there will be someone here that can help you
[03:28] <Paynemaster> yeah i will try that
[03:28] <Paynemaster> thanks for the big help
[03:28] <hfp> np, good luck
[03:29] <Fretegi> so is there a way to downgrade libsane
[03:29] <Spencer-_> Howdy folks. Im having a weird issue with my network adapters. I am of intermediate *nix knowledge. Using Server 16.04. cli only. The box im using has two network adapters - one wired, one wireless. Either one of them works, if the other isnt configured (in /etc/network/interfaces). But if both are configured, something borks somewhere during networking service restart, or system reboot, and only the wired interface comes up. In t
[03:29] <Paynemaster> hfp cheers ;)
[03:29] <Spencer-_> the wpa_supplicant and the wireless interface can come up
[03:29] <Fretegi> or upgrade lol
[03:29] <Spencer-_> but i have no idea why they wont use both load at the same time.
[03:30] <Spencer-_> if anyone can help me figure this out, i'd be greatly appreciative.
[03:31] <Telex9> Spencer-_,  I might be missing something, are you trying to route traffic to both at the same time?
[03:31] <Telex9> just trying to figure out why both need to be active at the same time
[03:32] <Spencer-_> Telex9 - So. Thats the idea. For each adapter to be on seperate networks.
[03:32] <Spencer-_> please dont yell at me if thats stupid and not possible.
[03:34] <Spencer-_> Im working on a home lab network environment and Im using this box as a network services server (dhcp, ntp, tftp, etc). I'd like to use the wired adapter as access to that environment. And I want to use the wireless adapter on my home network so I can SSH in from my laptop and not have to use a console cable.
[03:34] <Telex9> oh no worries. : ) We all had to start somewhere. guess how I know the answer to your question ; ) basically, its possible but not really recommended.
[03:34] <Spencer-_> im basically looking for what seems to bea really complicated solution to laziness
[03:35] <Telex9> ah ok, that I can get behind.
[03:35] <Telex9> : )
[03:35] <Spencer-_> im not so concerned abotu recommended, since its just a home lab and i dont care if anything blows up
[03:36] <Telex9> idk what your running, but basically you'll want to setup a static route for specific interfaces
[03:36] <Telex9> aka run 172.16.x.x over eth0 and 192.168.x.x over eth1
[03:36] <Spencer-_> this has been an issue for a few days and at this point, ive completely worked around it and really just want to know for my own sanity why both adapters wont go up
[03:36] <Fretegi> https://pastebin.com/TFkSZtvT
[03:36] <Fretegi> any thoughts on how to address printer
[03:36] <Fretegi> scanner?
[03:37] <Telex9> have you set the /etc/network/interfaces file to static ip addresses?
[03:38] <Spencer-_> Telex - thats the idea.
[03:38] <Spencer-_> Yeah, so heres what happens
[03:38] <Spencer-_> i have/etc/net/int configured with static addressing for both interfaces
[03:38] <Spencer-_> but
[03:38] <Telex9> what version are you running btw?
[03:38] <Spencer-_> 16.04
[03:39] <Spencer-_> now lets say I have nboth interfaces configed and neither commented out. If i reboot, only the wired int comes up. If i reload the network service, it errors out.
[03:40] <Spencer-_> my logfoo isnt great, but lookign at jouirnelctl, it appears that the wireless adapter errors with an exit code 1 and doesnt come up
[03:40] <Spencer-_> but
[03:40] <Spencer-_> if I comment out the wired int and reload, eveyrthing is peachy. same if I comment out the wireless.
[03:40] <Spencer-_> so one at a time, they load up fine
[03:40] <Spencer-_> its only when the config has both uncommented that stuff goes sideways
[03:44] <Telex9> ok, can you do a pastebin of that config? (changing the ips respectively.... )
[03:44] <Spencer-_> yeah. which configs do you want?
[03:45] <Spencer-_> http://pastebin/com/Su6vGLhN
[03:45] <Spencer-_> thats my /etc/net/int
[03:46] <Spencer-_> except im using a wpa_conf  wpa_supplicant location instead of hardcoded  SSID and PSK
[03:48] <Spencer-_> oh, and that pastebin shows them both on the same network, but they woudl be on seperate networks in the config i want
[03:50] <Fretegi> https://pastebin.com/TFkSZtvT
[03:50] <Fretegi> output of simple-scan -d.  printer prints fine
[03:50] <Telex9> : ) if you can't reach your default gateway on a local network, how do you send packets through it? check en01
[03:50] <Telex9> or your wlp2s0, *shrug*
[03:52] <k3y5> .
[03:53] <Spencer-_> ok, and pardon me if Im being facetious here, but my issue isnt with connectivity or routing. Its that both adapters wont load at the same time.
[03:53] <Spencer-_> i.e - ifconfig
[03:54] <Spencer-_> so like, with each adapter uncommented in the config file, and a fresh boot fo the system, ifconfig shows that only the wired adapter loads.
[03:55] <Spencer-_> i can then manually intiate the wpa_supplicant service and it will bring up the wireless adapter, but that wont persist through a service networking reload.
[03:55] <Spencer-_> however
[03:55] <Spencer-_> if I comment out either adapter and reboot, the other adapter loads just fine and connectivity works fine
[03:56] <Spencer-_> which leads me to believe the the config in the /etc/net/int file is fine, cause either one works if the other is commented out. Its something to do with trying to load them both.
[03:57] <Telex9> Totally understand, I might just overly simplifying here, but if your box isn't sure which routes to send packets, it'll favor the wired, but then it wiggs out once on the forced reload. Since the failover of 'prefer the wired, if I see a dupe route' is being over ridden
[03:59] <Telex9> your going to need some static routes in either case, since after force enabling the wireless the box isn't sure which is the best route. idk if that makes sense, perhaps someone with greater eloquence can chime in here then. : )
[04:01] <Spencer-_> oh, those are words i understand but dont know how to execute
[04:02] <Spencer-_> im not used to OSes having routing tables, but i did recently learn of the command route which lists a routing table
[04:03] <Spencer-_> (Im a windows guy by trade, and know my way around *nix but am not totally comfortable with the OS, obviously)
[04:03] <Spencer-_> but i get routing tables, as this whole exercise is to easily access the cisco lab environment im working with
[04:04] <Telex9> tl;dr Spencer-_  your going to need to put your cisco lab enviroment on a different subnet. Thats going to solve your problem. : )
[04:04] <Spencer-_> this is actually somthing that confused me as I just recently learned about the route command in *nix, after being very confused as to why the ifconfig didnt who each adapters default gateway
[04:05] <Spencer-_> No
[04:05] <Spencer-_> i can post a /etc/net/int config with them in different networks if youd prefer
[04:05] <Spencer-_> but the issue persists regardless of what network the interfaces are configured with
[04:06] <Spencer-_> that particular pastebin just happens to show them in the same network
[04:06] <Spencer-_> i would be more than happy to config them on different networks and provide logs
[04:07] <Telex9> ok, but... thats different. the bin provided makes it look like its crashing because you have 2 nics, going to the same place, the default logic prefers ethernet, then its being overridden with a forced reload... so without a proper load balancing proc in place, the box dies.
[04:07] <Spencer-_> i get why you thought that
[04:08] <Spencer-_> and i would be more than happy to reconfig and pastebin showing them on different networks
[04:08] <Spencer-_> but that config file doesnt show anything relating to the actual issue
[04:09] <Spencer-_> i could config and doa  network service reload and paste the journalctl if that woudl help
[04:10] <Telex9> that'd be helpful, i'm not sure as to why your getting a crash is the interfaces are properly config with 2 sep networks and you've setup proper static routes
[04:10] <Spencer-_> in fact, ill jsut go ahead and do that, cause I understand that I probably dont quite have the covabluary to convey the complexity here
[04:10] <Spencer-_> gimme just a couple minutes while i make files and move them to boxes where I can post them online
[04:11] <Spencer-_> is there anything else you'd like besides the /etc/net/int and journalctl output?
[04:11] <Fretegi> ok how about this, where else could i go to fine libsane_1.0.26?  found a guide addressing this issue but the files no longer appear to be on the debian page
[04:11] <Telex9> aka sudo route add -net 192.168.37.0/24 gw 192.168.37.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[04:12] <Telex9> Spencer-_, no rush, i'm just watching some vm's spin up and patch at the moment
[04:12] <Spencer-_> ok, so i havent ever hard config'd anything into route
[04:12] <Spencer-_> are you suggesting that I hard code both gateways into that as well?
[04:13] <Spencer-_> im more than happy to, i just havent come across anything online that says to do that
[04:13] <Telex9> for the sake of simplicity, lets go with that. : )
[04:13] <Telex9> Welcome to Linux! : )
[04:13] <Spencer-_> and like ai siad earlier, i just found out route was a thing recently
[04:13] <Spencer-_> ok cool
[04:13] <Spencer-_> see, im fairly certain its something dumb that gui linux does automagically that im missing in cli cause im a dummy. So ill try that.
[04:15] <Telex9> not a dummy, : ) lol just learning. we've all been here. its why i know about your issue ; ) i had the same problem in version 12.04
[04:15] <Spencer-_> the only place ive ever configed the gateway, ever, is in the /etc/net/int file
[04:17] <Telex9> which makes sense, but that previous config your placing 2 interfaces with 2 identical gateways. if you where a packet... : ) how would you decide where to go?
[04:19] <Spencer-_> ok, so problem.
[04:19] <Fretegi> https://askubuntu.com/questions/788151/ubuntu-16-04-simple-scan-i-o-error/836112#836112
[04:19] <Spencer-_> when i add the gateway and network the box is currently connected to, no problem
[04:19] <Fretegi> ok if someone could just help me sort out this guide pls that would be great
[04:20] <Spencer-_> but when I try to add the second network (remember, i cant actually get both adapters up at the same time), it tells me network unreachable
[04:20] <Telex9> does the second network have a diff gateway / subnet ?
[04:21] <Telex9> and are you getting an ip from dhcp on the 2nd network?
[04:25] <Spencer-_> ok, i was able to get both net gws up after a reboot and a manual instantiation of the wpa_supplicant.
[04:25] <Spencer-_> lets reboot and see if that works
[04:25] <Telex9> fingers crossed!
[04:28] <Spencer-_> ok, so heres what happened
[04:29] <Spencer-_> rebooted. only wired came up. manually launched wpa_supplicant which brought up wireless. I was able to then issue commands to route for both networks (192.168.37.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24)
[04:29] <Spencer-_> rebooted
[04:29] <Spencer-_> only wired is up (192.168.1.0 network) and only the 1.0 network appears int he routing table
[04:30] <Telex9> and when you try to reach .37 it fails ?
[04:30] <Telex9> just trying to double check here
[04:31] <Spencer-_> well yeha, because the adapter isnt up
[04:31] <Spencer-_> which is the whole issue
[04:31] <Spencer-_> two adpaters configured, only one comes up.
[04:32] <Spencer-_> if either adapter is commeneted out of /etc/net/int config, then the other comes up without issue on reboot
[04:32] <Spencer-_> but if both are uncommented, the wireless doesnt come up
[04:33] <Spencer-_> i totally get why the wireless network (37.0) isnt showing up int he routing table right now, because the adapter isnt up so the network doesnt exist to the system
[04:37] <Telex9> and..... i'm outta ideas then, its gotta be some default preference of wired > wireless. you might've already seen this but this might set you on the right track https://kindlund.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/configuring-multiple-default-routes-in-linux/
[04:38] <Telex9> since we're not bonding the connections, its gotta be some interface taking preference. : (  sorry I couldn't be of any more help
[04:41] <Fretegi> can i simply add the repository from ubuntu 14.04 to my 16.04.3 install and install packages from 14.04 in a downgrade fashion
[04:41] <Fretegi> ?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: No. Downgrading is explicitly not supported and will leave you with a completely broken system. If you want to downgrade then you need to re-install (which you can do while still preserving /home/).
[04:44] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, ok so that link i posted mentions upgrading to later versions of a few sane related pacakges to resolve this issue.  but i cannot find them on the debian site.  any thoughts on how to get them
[04:44] <Fretegi> or how to address this scanner issue?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Ahh, I see you're just trying to downgrade a single package. That's still not supported, and still probably won't work, but less doom-and gloomy :)
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: To be clear, your scanner works in Ubuntu 14.04 but not on Ubuntu 16.04?
[04:45] <Fretegi> yup
[04:45] <Fretegi> well
[04:45] <Fretegi> mint 17.3
[04:45] <Fretegi> works in it
[04:45] <Spencer-_> Thank you telex, ill check that out. And also thanks for the help in general. appreciate it
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Can you test from an Ubuntu 17.04 LiveUSB?
[04:46] <Fretegi> yup, was dead on that as well
[04:47] <Fretegi> but i will happily try again on a different machine
[04:47] <jnewt> can anyone tell me how to fix this so i can get mariadb installed: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25281453/
[04:47] <Fretegi> cannon printer, using the gutenprint driver on both the mint 17.3 (also trusty) and on this xenial machine.  scanner works on mint but not here
[04:49] <jnewt> using 16.04 LTS, i found some people that simply said reboot, which i did, and some dpkg commands: https://serverfault.com/a/736547 none of which solved the problem
[04:51] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, i am building the live usb now but fwiw i found this guide which describes my problem perfectly and a solution, but i cant find the darn packages it mentions on the debian site
[04:51] <Fretegi> https://askubuntu.com/questions/788151/ubuntu-16-04-simple-scan-i-o-error/836112#836112
[04:56] <Fretegi> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/sane-pixma.5.html
[04:57] <Fretegi> so for example, this same-pixma item mentions my specific scanner, but im not sure if its included in that version of libsane-common
[04:57] <Fretegi> anyway to tell
[05:04] <mshadle> does anyone know of a way to LIST what updates are available (or just boolean if updates are available) - the equivalent of a read-only summary of apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:06] <mshadle> nevermind, looks like i found one.
[05:19] <haya> hey buds
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> haya: good morning
[05:20] <haya> Got to start vsftpd
[05:21] <haya> Got an error : says Active : failed
[05:21] <haya> Result : exit code
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> haya: what are you planning to do with ftp?
[05:22] <haya> file transfer I think
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> haya: be carefull with ftp, as its a security nowadays
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> haya: consider ssh instead with fail2ban and a strong pass
[05:23] <haya> no problem with that
[05:23] <haya> just wanna know :  why failed
[05:24] <haya> configured conf file and started vsftpd service in standalone
[05:24] <haya> listen = YES
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> haya: i think its best to find a more specific channel for vsftpd, as we focus on ubuntu issue here
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> haya: can this help perhaps: https://askubuntu.com/questions/683413/vsftpd-cannot-read-config-file-even-when-file-exists
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> haya: check also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
[06:39] <nocco> I'm using ubuntu with gnome, the alpha version of 17.10. My question is, do keyboard-commands and layout come from ubuntu/OS or gnome/desktop-environemtn?
[06:42] <Rhombix> hi. i'm trying to duplicate my boot drive to a usb hdd. i tried using GParted (in a live boot session), but when i booted into the hdd, i just got a blank screen.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: First, be careful doing this at all. You may not realize that having two filesystems with the same UUID can be dangerous.
[06:44] <Rhombix> ok
[06:45] <Rhombix> in GParted i used "copy partition" (from sda1 to sdd1)
[06:46] <Rhombix> when the copy didn't boot up, i tried using the dd command to copy the first 1mb of sda to sdd (that's sda, not sda1)
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: That most likely lead to sda1 and sdd1 having the same UUID (which you can check with "sudo blkid"). This means that if both are plugged in when you boot, which one gets mounted as your root filesystem could be up to random chance. If this is a btrfs filesystem, then it could lead to corruption of the fileystem.
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based machine?
[06:47] <Rhombix> UEFI (i think)
[06:48] <BUSY> hello!  i have 2 machines on the network now, and when i use arp -a from either one, they each are given a hostname of [computer name].network.tds.net, and when i use that address to try to ssh, it resolves and works.  where is this host being assigned?
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: Then you also need to copy the EFI System Partition *and* prepare the drive to be bootable as a removable drive, which an Ubuntu installation will not be by default (because it requires a boot entry in your firmware).
[06:51] <Rhombix> ok. where on a device is this located? i assume it's seperated from the partitions, and will not be carried over when copying partitons alone?
[06:52] <Rhombix> also, could you explain more about how a removable drive is different when booted?
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: Technically the difference isn't really with the drive being external so much as the drive being booted on machines different than the one the OS was installed on.
[06:54] <Dragonbird> Hey guys! can anyone help me with an iptables rule? I am trying to resolve matching hostnames from localhost. dig works just fine but other applications can't resolve the names
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: When Ubuntu installs grub it puts some files in your EFI System Partition, one of which is at the path /ubuntu/shimx64.efi (Since your ESP is mounted to /boot/efi/ you can see this file a the path /boot/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi) . This is the file that your boot firmware needs to load to start Ubuntu.
[06:59] <Rhombix> ok. where is the ESP? is it stored on the booting device, or inside my computer?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: If Ubuntu / grub-install did nothing else, then your computer would not be setup to boot from Ubuntu. If you asked your boot firmware to boot from that drive it would look in the default location /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI in the ESP and would load that (if such a file had been put there by another OS, like Windows) or declare that it can't boot the drive. To make the UEFI boot firmware boot Ubuntu
[07:01] <Jordan_U> grub-install/efibootmgr tell the firmware "Hey, there is a file at the path /EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi on this particular ESP that will load an OS. Make an entry for it called "Ubuntu" and boot it by default (before any other OSs)".
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: Your ESP is a fat32/fat16 partition on your hard drive. The boot entry that *points to* the file on the ESP is stored in flash on your motherboard.
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: So, if you want a drive to be bootable by a machine that doesn't already have an entry pointing to Ubuntu's shimx64.efi you need to copy shimx64.efi to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI .
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: If you don't have an ESP anywhere then you're not booting via UEFI.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> Dragonbird: perhaps the #netfilter guys can help?
[07:12] <Dragonbird> lotuspsychje, thanks, let me ask there
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: perhaps a question for ##networking ?
[07:13] <BUSY> thanks lotuspsychje!  i thought perhaps it was an ubuntu specific thing for convenience
[07:18] <Rhombix> Jordan_U: i've looked at my boot settings - i'm running UEFI DualBIOS - does this mean it uses UEFI or BIOS?
[07:18] <iczero> hi. i currently have a dual-monitor setup with the internal laptop display and an external hdmi monitor. when i disconnect the hdmi cable, the display isn't resized, leaving a ghost desktop. running xrandr causes the ghost desktop to disappear.
[07:18] <iczero> anyone have any idea what might be wrong here?
[07:20] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have a problem with Xen 4.6. VPCU hotpluggin is not working anymore.
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: UEFI means that it's UEFI. "DualBIOS" is a Gigabyte marketing term for the fact that there is a backup of your boot firmware stored on your motherboard. Like almost all UEFI firmware, your UEFI machine can boot via UEFI or BIOS depending on how it's configured. It's confusing because "BIOS" is a word that can either mean "Boot Firware", "Boot Firmware that implements the BIOS interface", or "The
[07:23] <Jordan_U> BIOS interface" depending on the context. I try not to refer to boot firmware as "The BIOS" when using a UEFI machine, but most other people (and motherboard manufacturers) do.
[07:23] <seunlanlege> hi everyone
[07:23] <seunlanlege> please i need help :(
[07:23] <irgendwer4711> any Xen users here?
[07:24] <seunlanlege> https://askubuntu.com/questions/944843/ubuntu-16-04-logs-me-out-1015-seconds-after-logging-in
[07:25] <Rhombix> ok ty for that explanation, helps a lot
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: You're welcome.
[07:25] <Rhombix> how can i access the saved boot profiles on my computer?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Rhombix: "sudo efibootmgr" will list the UEFI boot entries in your boot firmware.
[07:27] <seunlanlege> or shoul i post the problem here?
[07:28] <iczero> apparently it's something with xrandr events not being generated on unplug
[07:32] <WizardGed> hey whenever my hp network printer is turned off and I accidently print to it the printer is disabled (the checkbox next to enabled in system-config-printer is unchecked) can I stop it from unchecking that button
[07:33] <WizardGed> I feel like I must be missing something simple
[07:34] <nocco> When using Nordic/Swedish keyboard layout, I have to press altGr + 7 to make a {. I want make it possible to use ctrl + alt(left) + 7. Is that possible? How are other programmers from sweden solving problem? It's so inconvenient.
[07:48] <ws2k3> Hello, how can i set cpufreq to performance on ubuntu 16.04? on ubuntu 12.04 i just did: sed -i 's/echo -n ondemand/echo -n performance/g' /etc/init.d/ondemand but since /etc/init.d/ondemand is changed in 16.04 that doesnt work anymore. any advice?
[08:04] <sary> ws2k3: #see man cpufreq-set .
[08:05] <ws2k3> sary i know i can do it with the cpu-freq-set command. but i want to do it at boot not manualy
[08:06] <sary> ws2k3: then you need cpufrequtils , and adjust in /etc/sysfs.conf ..
[08:07] <ws2k3> sary /etc/sysfs.conf does not seems to exsist i should create it?
[08:12] <sary> ws2k3: does /etc/default/cpufrequtils exist now .. no you will have /etc/sysfs.conf after you install sysfsutils .. please read the docs!
[08:26] <Lope> Previously in ubuntu 14.04 I did this, which allowed me to switch tabs in my terminal window (last tab is named Deploy). But now in 16.04 it only prints a number 2 in the terminal window, the alt key does not seem to get registered. `xdotool search --name Deploy key alt+2`
[08:30] <Lope> `xdotool search --name Deploy windowfocus key alt+2` doesn't help. It still dumps 2 in the terminal instead of pressing alt 2
[08:37] <tomeaton17> What is the key combination to change window sizes so it takes up left half or right half of screen or all of it? I think it was something + arrow keys
[08:40] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: super + ctrl + arrows
[08:41] <tomeaton17> Thanks. And another question, when I am running a GUI program that is launched from the terminal, is there a way to get access back to the prompt without making a new terminal window?
[08:41] <oerheks> don't start from terminal then .., or use & as option
[08:43] <tomeaton17> Alright I have to use terminal for one so thanks
[09:05] <john__> Not run ubuntu for a while but need it, 16.04, for a project. So tried 4 times to install it on a laptop.
[09:05] <john__> a few hours later I have to give up and go
[09:06] <john__> But how do you do it? The machine has an ext4 '/' partition, and ext4 '/opt' partition and an encrypted '/home' partition
[09:07] <john__> I don't think that's too strange. But Ubuntu refuses to install. I've got it to the point that it's now not happy with swap. Does not try and create the swap in whatever way it wants the swap
[09:08] <john__> Doesn't tell me how to do it. And even if it did I now can't boot the machine so how exactly? Looked in the LIVE part of the install and gparted nor disks offers any sort of encrypted swap area.
[09:09] <john__> Like I say I have to go now but I'll check back later, to see if there's some option for this. I guess the way to run it is in a VM but this machine is a bit thin for that.
[09:11] <m0j0dj0dj0> Hi there is a way to simulate what would be the size of my folder if i compress it ?
[09:25] <vlt> m0j0dj0dj0: You can pipe the output of tar through something like wc, dd or pv.
[09:25] <vlt> (without actually saving it)
[09:25] <sary> if an ubuntu member picks on you trying to fault you , where would you take this to for a discussion on IRC!
[09:26] <vlt> sary: What is an "ubuntu memeber"?
[09:26] <vlt> -e
[09:40] <m0j0dj0dj0> thanks vlt
[09:40] <oerheks> Hi sary, you might want to take this to #ubuntu-ops
[09:43] <pumba> :D
[10:06] <Smokey-Screen> I'm not sure of this is the right place so I'll take recommendations... Has anyone had OSX running in a vm environment on Ubuntu?
[10:07] <oerheks> Smokey-Screen, that is illegal, see the UELA
[10:07] <ducasse> Smokey-Screen: that is only allowed by the osx license on apple hw
[10:07] <oerheks> you could run it in a vm on mac osx itself
[10:07] <Smokey-Screen> oerheks, ducasse thank you for the advice
[10:13] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:13] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj
[10:14] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks
[10:24] <yeeve> hey chat, I have a separate num-pad keyboard plugged into USB, is it possible to map actions/scripts to the keys completely separately to my main keyboards num-pad? I've seen tools like luamacros but it seems too complex for my use case but I will try it if I have to
[10:24] <yeeve> Using 'xev' I'm able to see the 6 key on each keyboard has the same keycode but a different serial so it feels like I should be able to tell ubuntu to ignore all inputs from a specific serial ID
[10:32] <ducasse> yeeve: i know this is possible, but all i remember about the details is that it involves xinput :)
[10:32] <nocco> Anyone in here that is running photoshop through wine or something similiar as wine to run photoshop? How well does actually run? Is wine the program to use for that or is there anything better than that?
[10:33] <yeeve> ducasse, I'm just looking now :S what's odd is that the new usb num-pad keyboard shows two exact lines in xinput list but with two different ids :S I'll pick the first and go from there :)
[10:34] <oerheks> nocco, check the HQdatabase
[10:34] <oerheks> !wine
[10:34] <oerheks> err wineHQ database
[10:34] <oerheks> best thing is to run it on windows itself
[10:38] <nocco> yeah I can imagine that. I'm a web developer and I thing going to ubuntu instead of mac which I'm using today. Sometimes I need to look at designs in photoshops. Is it good enough for that? any idea?
[10:39] <ducasse> nocco: running a windows application on linux is kind of the wrong way to do things, imho
[10:39] <ikonia> wine is an excellent tool to assist with plugging a gap it is not a solution that should be "depended" upon
[10:42] <nocco> alright then, stay with mac then
[10:44] <yeeve> ducasse, once I have the device Id and the keycodes, what's the best way to run a script/action on a keypress and not have it output the default value (If I press 6 on the num-pad it should run a script but not input 6 on the screen)
[10:47] <ducasse> yeeve: depends, but normally when you bind a key in your wm/de it captures the output without printing it
[10:48] <yeeve> I see, I don't think I can use the wm/de keybinding stuff because it can't tell the difference between the "5" key on the small num-pad keyboard and "5" on my main keyboard's num-pad (I think at least but I guess I should confirm that)
[10:49] <darkphoenix10> Hello, I need help with merging 20GB of unallocated space with Ubuntu's root partition
[10:49] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: boot a live usb, use gparted to resize it
[10:51] <darkphoenix10> The unallocated storage is under the root partition in GParted's drive view thing, I don't know what it's called
[10:52] <hateball> nocco: GIMP has PSD support (to some degree) so you can test some file there and see if it works properly, rather than going the wine route first
[10:52] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: great, resize the partition to cover the whole space you want
[10:53] <darkphoenix10> shit I said it wrong, the unallocated storage is above the root partition I mean
[10:53] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: move the whole partition to the start, then resize
[10:53] <EriC^^> better have backups if the data is super important to you
[10:54] <darkphoenix10> I'm dual booting with Windows 10 by the way
[10:54] <darkphoenix10> And yes I do have backups
[10:55] <latenite> Hi folks, I am using dhclient and the lease looks fine but my resolv.conf does not have the right nameserver. What am I missing here. This is the lease and resolv.conf: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ae2c14ce35a3cf11f1212a60838a7dfd
[10:55] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: that's not an issue
[10:56] <darkphoenix10> I mean I'm not used to partitioning much so I don't really know how to move partitions
[10:57] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: just right click on it and click on move, and pick the start of the unallocated space (in gparted)
[10:58] <darkphoenix10> Will do
[11:00] <darkphoenix10> Apparently I can't move the root partition
[11:01] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: are you booted in a live session?
[11:01] <EriC^^> live usb
[11:02] <darkphoenix10> Oh yeah I forgot to do that
[11:08] <darkphoenix10> Alright, I booted into the Live USB
[11:08] <darkphoenix10> Waiting for GParted to finish loading
[11:10] <darkphoenix10> Hm, I still can't move the root partition
[11:11] <ikonia> darkphoenix10: screenshot the gpartedd layout, and you're running this from a livecd yes ?
[11:11] <darkphoenix10> yes
[11:12] <ikonia> upload a screenshot of the disk layout, may make it easier to share context
[11:16] <BluesKaj> darkphoenix10, unmount the root partition
[11:18] <darkphoenix10> Even though I just realised I'm in the Ubuntu IRC instead of the XUbuntu IRC, here it is anyway https://preview.ibb.co/gPSJ2F/image.png
[11:18] <yeeve> Is there a nice way to run shortcuts/scripts on key presses (on a specific keyboard) without relying on my DM/DE?
[11:19] <btorch> anyone here have had issues with trusty on a PE r815 with H700 Raid controller ? Anything over the precise 3.2.x kernel blows up
[11:19] <darkphoenix10> Whew I just realised the image I sent was low quality, here's a better one https://image.ibb.co/jNvSwa/image.png
[11:20] <ducasse> yeeve: xbindkeys
[11:20] <darkphoenix10> And yes I know I'm sending it in this IRC not XUbuntu's IRC, sorry
[11:20] <yeeve> ducasse, thanks, I did see that mentioned somewhere but haven't looked into it yet
[11:20] <yeeve> thanks :)
[11:21] <ducasse> yeeve: np
[11:22] <darkphoenix10> ikonia: in case you didn't see it, here it is https://image.ibb.co/jNvSwa/image.png
[11:23] <darkphoenix10> even though i've said this three times, I just realised I'm in the the Ubuntu IRC, not the XUbuntu IRC
[11:24] <ducasse> darkphoenix10: this channel supports all the ubuntu flavors
[11:24] <darkphoenix10> Oh
[11:24] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: unmount the partition
[11:24] <darkphoenix10> Did that
[11:24] <darkphoenix10> I can resize and move now
[11:24] <EriC^^> in the ss it was still mounted
[11:24] <EriC^^> k cool
[11:24] <jinxi1> hi
[11:24] <yeeve> ducasse, xbindkeys doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between 2 usb keyboards, do you know if this is/isn't possible?
[11:24] <jinxi1> any one here rynning ryzen r7 1700 with Ubuntu 16.04?
[11:26] <ducasse> yeeve: as i said, it is possible, but i don't remember the exact approach used. i can't find the article i read it in right now.
[11:27] <yeeve> ducasse, Ok dude thanks
[11:27] <ducasse> yeeve: i *think* it involved xkbcomp remapping the second keyboard to values unused by the first one and binding to those
[11:28] <yeeve> that actually makes sense, I read a post describing something similar for mouse buttons so maybe that's just the limitation we have to workaround
[11:29] <darkphoenix10> ok so what now? I'm not really experienced with partitioning so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:31] <ducasse> yeeve: i'm pretty sure xinput was involved somehow, but how...
[11:32] <yeeve> ducasse, no worries dude, you've given me enough info to know I'm roughly on the right lines :) xinput, xbindkeys and xkbcomp are tools I've seen mentioned but no guide on my specific needs but I'll get there
[11:32] <ducasse> yeeve: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/xkb_remap/ :)
[11:32] <yeeve> f**k dude nice one!
[11:33] <ikonia> tone down the language please yeeve
[11:33] <ikonia> it' uncalled for
[11:34] <yeeve> lol it was self censored ... but ok won't happen again
[11:34] <ikonia> thanks, that's appreciated
[11:35] <ducasse> yeeve: that should get you going. i've got a few more links on xkb config somewhere if you need them.
[11:36] <yeeve> ducasse, appreciated, I'll give it a go with the info I have but if I don't get anywhere I'll come back to discuss it :)
[11:36] <ducasse> yeeve: np, good luck :)
[11:36] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: that's it, reboot as usual
[11:37] <darkphoenix10> EriC^^: ok so what should I do in the move thing in GParted
[11:37] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: did you move the partition all the way back?
[11:37] <oerheks> darkphoenix10, your wlinux is mounted, unount those partitions with a key (locked)
[11:38] <oerheks> c/unmount
[11:38] <darkphoenix10> Back to the very beginning of the drive?
[11:38] <EriC^^> oerheks: huh, is this encryption?
[11:39] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: nevermind my advice in this case, no idea about encryption and resizing
[11:39] <darkphoenix10> Oh ok
[11:39] <oerheks> oh encrypted.. didn't read that.
[11:40] <EriC^^> oerheks: me neither, i thought that's what you were referring to with the key and stuff
[11:40] <oerheks> i refer to the pic https://image.ibb.co/jNvSwa/image.png
[11:40] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:40] <oerheks> sda10 and 11 are locked now
[11:40] <darkphoenix10> I unmounted sda10
[11:41] <darkphoenix10> should I unmount 11 as well?
[11:41] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: can you pastebin "sudo parted -l" ?
[11:41] <darkphoenix10> will do
[11:42] <darkphoenix10> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25283130/
[11:43] <EriC^^> that doesn't look like it's encrypted afaik
[11:43] <Kartagis> ahoy
[11:44] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: do you know if it's encrypted? did you have to enter a passphrase to mount it?
[11:44] <darkphoenix10> no
[11:45] <EriC^^> ok, carry on then
[11:45] <EriC^^> right click > move, then right click resize
[11:45] <darkphoenix10> yup, did that
[11:46] <darkphoenix10> what should i input
[11:46] <EriC^^> after move you mean?
[11:46] <Kartagis> is it possible to specify a command output as Hostname in .ssh/config?
[11:46] <oerheks> so between 7 - 259 Gb and 10 - 283 gb there is a gap of say 24 gb, no extended partition or such
[11:46] <EriC^^> darkphoenix10: take a screenshot of gparted after pressing move
[11:50] <darkphoenix10> https://image.ibb.co/g69j9v/image2.png
[11:50] <oerheks> drag it to the left. grab the black arrow and pull
[11:52] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: sorry if this might be a stupid question but how far should I drag it left?
[11:53] <oerheks> all the way? unless you need some space for an other partition
[11:53] <oerheks> or increase the 'new size MB' to the max, 2 ways of doing this
[11:53] <darkphoenix10> I'm dual booting Windows 10 in case you didn't know
[11:56] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: Look at my previous message if you didn't already
[12:00] <darkphoenix10> I really don't know what to do now tbh
[12:02] <MacroMan> Programs written in python that I'm running come up with this warning: https://hastebin.com/irozonekuq.pl
[12:03] <MacroMan> I've tried removing the offending packages and re-installing as well as re-installing the pyhton lib itself, to no avail.
[12:04] <MacroMan> This started randomly a few days ago when I install glances. I've removed glances and looked in the apt logs for anything else (there wasn't) and removed that too, but still the same error
[12:10] <MacroMan> Ah never mind. When I started to think about it, I discovered a propblem with pip, which I reinstalled and all is working now.
[12:11] <oerheks> darkphoenix10, win10 has nothing to do with this
[12:12] <oerheks> darkphoenix10, what do you not understand, dragging that black arrow next to that yellow/white partition to the left?
[12:12] <oerheks> that arrow got a white block around it, in your pic
[12:12] <darkphoenix10> Oh that's what I have to do, sorry
[12:13] <oerheks> no problem, good you ask again
[12:15] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: wait so I drag the arrow on the right to the left so then all I have is a yellow block?
[12:15] <darkphoenix10> I just want to make sure
[12:16] <oerheks> darkphoenix10, yes
[12:16] <darkphoenix10> Apparently an error occured
[12:18] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: Error log is located here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25283287/
[12:19] <oerheks> huh? line #42 shrink file system...
[12:20] <oerheks> i think you drag the wrong arrow ..
[12:20] <darkphoenix10> resize2fs: New size smaller than minimum (1600310)
[12:20] <darkphoenix10>  that caught my attention
[12:20] <darkphoenix10> Also brb
[12:25] <TomyWork> if i lose connection to a CIFS share, half my processes end up in "disk sleep". i usually do a "umount -fl /mnt/foo" to get rid of the broken mount
[12:25] <TomyWork> but the applications still freeze until their current timeout is over
[12:27] <TomyWork> i read somewhere that the nfs driver got rid of the need for disk sleep ages ago. has cifs caught up? am i missing a mount option?
[12:28] <TomyWork> my fstab line: //server/path/to/share     /mnt/foo            cifs uid=myself,gid=mygroup,credentials=/path/to/cifs/credentials,noauto,user 0 0
[12:32] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: so is this right then https://image.ibb.co/irRT2F/image3.png
[12:33] <oerheks> no, you should have grabbed the other arrow
[12:33] <oerheks> now you make it smaller
[12:33] <oerheks> hit cancel, and do it again
[12:36] <paynemaster> Hello everyone. I got a linux issue where my mouse cursor is stuck in the top left of the screen. i can still use mouse. its just invisible
[12:37] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: So this right? https://image.ibb.co/gWOEba/image5.png
[12:40] <oerheks> wrong again .. now you started over, and made the partition smaller.. this is so simple..
[12:41] <paynemaster> Anyone in here that could assist me with my issues?
[12:41] <oerheks> grey is empty space, drag that thing untill you don't see any grey
[12:41] <foozb12> Any guess why a tty (after logged in) doesn't have any sort of space after the $ prompt? like: 'user@host:~$ls' instead of 'user@host:~$ ls'
[12:44] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: this? https://image.ibb.co/ccGWpv/image6.png
[12:44] <darkphoenix10> Sorry if it's supposed to be simple, I'm not really used to partitioning
[12:45] <darkphoenix10> and using gparted
[12:45] <oerheks> darkphoenix10, yay!
[12:45] <darkphoenix10> Thanks for your help
[12:45] <oerheks> yes, now hit the button reisize/move
[12:45] <oerheks> and after this, you would need to reinstall grub2 i think, as the UUID from that partition has changed
[12:46] <ducasse> paynemaster: which release is this?
[12:46] <oerheks> !grub
[12:46] <darkphoenix10> oerheks: https://image.ibb.co/dbMvhF/image4.png should I ignore that
[12:46] <oerheks> that warning is correct, see my comment above
[12:46] <paynemaster> @ducasse I am not sure since it is pre installed on a tool with usb boot media
[12:47] <paynemaster> @ducasse the way i want it to be working is that the newest linux version is on it. it that possible?
[12:47] <ducasse> paynemaster: you would need to upgrade every time there is a new release
[12:48] <ducasse> paynemaster: do you have it in front of you?
[12:48] <Kman> How to install QT 5.0 (>=5.7) in Ubuntu 14.04?
[12:48] <paynemaster> No. i can, but i need to leave this channel
[12:48] <paynemaster> @ducasse why would i need to upgrade it everytime?
[12:49] <glitsj16> foozb12: my guess would be your prompt definition lacks the space.. check ~/.bashrc
[12:49] <ducasse> paynemaster: if you always want the latest version you would need to upgrade
[12:50] <ducasse> Kman: you would need to use a ppa (unsupported)
[12:50] <paynemaster> @ducasse No i don't want the latest version. i tried ubuntu 17.04 and it works. So if i can make that usb media tool with that version on it. I am all set
[12:51] <Kman> ducasse: 14.04 is trusty?
[12:52] <ducasse> paynemaster: just boot the installer and install to the usb stick
[12:52] <ducasse> Kman: yes
[12:53] <ducasse> paynemaster: you can also use the installer as a live image, or with persistence
[12:53] <ducasse> !persistence | paynemaster
[12:53] <Kman> ducasse: thanks
[12:53] <paynemaster> @ducasse not sure if that tool wil work then?
[12:55] <ducasse> paynemaster: what tool is this? on a stick with persistence it should.
[12:56] <paynemaster> @ducasse It is called SSD Utility. Made by toshiba. Inside the tool there is a option to make it bootable
[12:56] <ducasse> paynemaster: this is something you would need to ask toshiba about
[12:58] <paynemaster> @ducasse i tried to just install it at ubuntu 17.04 but i get a ''need superuser'' I am not so experienced at ubuntu. Thats why i want to use the bootable tool.
[12:59] <Kman> ducasse: i got qt 5.8 ppa, so how to update old qt 4.8 to this one?
[13:00] <ducasse> !sudo | paynemaster read this
[13:00] <Kman> ducasse:  apt-get install qt58-meta-full?
[13:00] <Kman> I need the old QT 4.8 system replaced by 5.8
[13:02] <ducasse> Kman: sounds like a bad idea to me, nor is it something we support here. look at the instructions for the ppa.
[13:02] <paynemaster> @ducasse yeah i tried it but still get it. tried to login with the new user with read and wright privileges. Stil not working.
[13:05] <ducasse> paynemaster: if you run the tool with sudo it is run as superuser, i can't tell you anything about a toshiba tool though
[13:05] <yeeve> ducasse, I got the xkb stuff working but I can't find a way to find/list all unused keys. I have a standard 104 key keyboard but xinput list seems to indicate that the keyboards support ~250 keys. I've seen example showing people remapping into the media keys but I already have WM/DE level shortcuts to map Ctrl+something to certain media functions :P
[13:05] <paynemaster> @ducasse no worrys about the toshiba tool. Thats my part. just looking for the easiest way to use it
[13:05] <yeeve> do you have any advice on where/how to find un-used keys on a keyboard? :S
[13:06] <paynemaster> @ducasse i am just talking with a agent from toshiba. He tells me that the core cannot be updated. so i cannot use the bootable media version i guess
[13:09] <ducasse> yeeve: hmm... iirc xbindkeys can print a list, look at the man page. also xmodmap.
[13:09] <yeeve> cheers dude :P will do
[13:09] <paynemaster> @ducasse what i am trying to do, is putt it on Yumi, so i can use it often. Is it possible to make some sort of ubuntu version, with the tools installed i need on yumi, so it can boot with everying on hand
[13:12] <ducasse> paynemaster: if this toshiba tool is part of an ubuntu image they modified, it is no longer supported here. we know nothing about what they did. if it is just a binary you should be able to run it from any install (that has the necessary libraries, if shared)
[13:16] <paynemaster> @ducasse yeah i understand. i can still download a linux version of the tool from their site. I am just trying to make it stick on the ubuntu os and try to putt it on Yumi. Because i not have acces to the internet all the time
[13:16] <Kartagis> how can I use a dynamic IP as Hostname in .ssh/config?
[13:16] <Kman> ducasse: i have qt 5.8 installed, but qmake is still using qt 5.2. how do i update qmake?
[13:17] <paynemaster> @ducasse is that possible?
[13:17] <john_doe_jr> When I log in my linux box using ssh…it logs in but then just stalls…I press "CTRL-C" and it says, "-bash: [: too many arguments" ….anybody got an idea why this is happening?
[13:18] <marvin42> how can I upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04?
[13:18] <ducasse> paynemaster: i'm a little confused as to exactly what this toshiba tool is - is it just a program, or part of a full ubuntu install to make it bootable?
[13:19] <justsomeone12321> Hi! I have following problem, I want to install openmesh. After adding the repository "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nakednous/ppa" and updating, it says "The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/nakednous/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file." and now it is unable to locate the package. What do I have to do? Thank you for your time!
[13:19] <hateball> marvin42: using GUI or a terminal?
[13:19] <ducasse> !upgrade | marvin42
[13:19] <paynemaster> @ducasse its just a program. i can give u the link to their page if u want
[13:19] <marvin42> hateball, I'm comfortable with both
[13:20] <hateball> marvin42: ducasse provided some good information, otherwise just issue "sudo do-release-upgrade" in a terminal
[13:20] <marvin42> ducasse, 16.10 is no longer supported so it won't upgrade using the normal method
[13:20] <hateball> !eolupgrade | marvin42
[13:20] <marvin42> thanks hateball
[13:21] <ducasse> paynemaster: not necessary. if it runs on a certain ubuntu version you should be set using the persistance link i pointed you to above, not familiar with yumi
[13:22] <ducasse> hateball: has it been moved yet? that normally happens quite a while after it goes eol...
[13:22] <paynemaster> @ducasse this one right? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:23] <ducasse> paynemaster: that's for running it as superuser. if you want to run it from a usb use the persistence instructions.
[13:24] <ducasse> !persistence | paynemaster
[13:25] <hfp> Hi, I have resized my LVM+LUKS partition to clone it to a smaller SSD. It worked great, but now my inner partition is much smaller than the outer partition and I can't seem to expand it to the full size... This is what it looks like in KDE partition manager (using a KaOS LiveCD because the KDE partition manager that ships with Ubuntu is very outdated and doesn't do LUKS volumes). cf https://imgur.com/a/14p9K
[13:26] <hfp> ie sda3 is 118GB but the volume group can only be 92GB at most
[13:26] <paynemaster> @ducasse but thats read only? Yumi is just a tool where u can set up a collection of bootable files (iso's)
[13:26] <hateball> ducasse: I didnt think it would have, but marvin42 says so
[13:26] <glitsj16> justsomeone12321: looks like the PPA doesn't support 16.04 xenial, hence you don't see any openmesh package
[13:26] <ducasse> paynemaster: persistence is to give you writable storage
[13:27] <marvin42> ducasse, yeah, I'm unable to upgrade using the standard method
[13:28] <marvin42> hateball, will it also upgrade debi installed packages? such as virtualbox?
[13:28] <hfp> (hey paynemaster)
[13:28] <ducasse> marvin42: hateball: hmm, odd. well, good to know :)
[13:28] <paynemaster> @ducasse ah oke i get it. sounds good. Do i still need to worry about superuser preveliges this way?
[13:29] <sammyg> how to tell if i have a web server installed from ssh console?
[13:29] <ducasse> paynemaster: yes, read the sudo page
[13:32] <paynemaster> @ducasse there is no way it boots up with superuser allready? So i can start right awat?
[13:33] <Kman> Is it possible to upgrade qt 5.2 /4.8  to QT 5.8  for ubunt 14.04?
[13:34] <justsomeone12321> glitsj16: thank you!
[13:36] <ducasse> paynemaster: for a live image with persistence, it's probably a lot easier to just type 'sudo' in front of the command to start the tool
[13:36] <glitsj16> justsomeone12321: no problem, might just purge that ppa if you don't use it for anything else, avoid clutter
[13:37] <hateball> marvin42: if you've sideloaded packages from outside the ubuntu repos, then no those wont be upgraded (how could they?)
[13:37] <justsomeone12321> glitsj16: purged it :-)
[13:39] <paynemaster> @ducasse Still trying to figure out which sudo command i need for running it
[13:40] <ducasse> paynemaster: what do you type to start the tool?
[13:42] <paynemaster> @ducasse not sure since it might be different with this file
[13:43] <ducasse> paynemaster: whatever it is, just put 'sudo ' in front of it
[13:43] <yeeve> ducasse, It seems I'm able to change xkb_symbols easy enough but I feel I need to remap the numpad to different keycodes not keysymbols so I can just say if keycode:230 pressed do X becuase I'll know 230 doesn't exist on my main keyboard at all where as the Symbols seem difficult to work out if they're actually used :S Am I misunderstanding?
[13:44] <marvin42> hateball, yeah, I was thinking that perhaps gdebi would take care of it. thanks!
[13:44] <ducasse> yeeve: sounds sane, and afaicr xbindkeys can be mapped to keycodes.
[13:45] <paynemaster_> @ducasse give me a second booting into ubuntu right now
[13:45] <yeeve> The trouble seems to be that xkb_symbols worked OK for me but xkb_keycodes doesn't seem to. I think the syntax is different so I'm probably missing something :P I'll keep reading :D
[13:46] <paynemaster_> @ducasse it is a .tar.gz file
[13:46] <ducasse> paynemaster_: that's an archive, you need to extract it.
[13:47] <paynemaster_> @ducasse yeah i did. Made a folder on desktop where i extracted it to
[13:49] <paynemaster_> @ducasse i guess its ''x_exe...''
[13:50] <ducasse> paynemaster_: possibly, try 'sudo ./x_exe...' from that directory
[13:53] <paynemaster_> @ducasse so that will be ''sudo .x-exe... /home/ubuntu/desktop/SSDUtility''?
[13:54] <ducasse> paynemaster_: is /home/ubuntu/desktop/SSDUtility the folder or the program?
[13:56] <paynemaster_> @ducasse SSDUtility is the program
[13:57] <paynemaster_> @ducasse that is the folder to the program
[13:57] <ducasse> paynemaster_: then 'sudo /home/ubuntu/desktop/SSDUtility'
[13:58] <ducasse> paynemaster_: i've gtg. read the sudo link, it is clearly explained there.
[13:58] <paynemaster_> @ducasse says:Command not found
[13:59] <ducasse> paynemaster_: no, then it is the folder. give it the full path and name of the command.
[14:00] <paynemaster_> @ducasse that is the full name? :(
[14:00] <paynemaster_> @ducasse i oke think i follow you. that includes the previous line right?
[14:00] <ducasse> try 'chmod +x /home/ubuntu/desktop/SSDUtility' then try again
[14:02] <jnewt> simple scan won't scan back or front & back. used to work with old scanner, got a new one (same brand, just current model Fujitsu Scansnap iX500) and it is like i the selection doesn't do anything.  No matter which i choose, it always only scans the front of a page
[14:03] <paynemaster_> @ducasse it is case sensetive right?
[14:03] <ducasse> paynemaster_: yes
[14:03] <ducasse> paynemaster_: read the link i gave you, i've really got to go now.
[14:04] <paynemaster_> @ducasse ah oke well thanks for the big help! i will try to get into it
[14:04] <eelstrebor> i guess i was wrong - they still haven't fixed the amdgpu driver problem in 16.04.3
[14:05] <eelstrebor> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-Compatibility-Advisory-with-Ubuntu-16.04.2-and-16.04.3.aspx
[14:05] <jnewt> Log from scanner: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25283722/
[14:06]  * eelstrebor guesses they ain't in any big hurry to fix it - probably because there isn't any more money going into their coffers
[14:09] <paynemaster_> Anyone here can help me out? trying to get superuser privileges
[14:10] <himcesjf> !sudo | paynemaster_
[14:11] <paynemaster_> thanks but i allready got that page. can't seem to find anything about running or installing
[14:13] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: try 'sudo bash'
[14:13] <paynemaster_> sudo (program name) should be it right?
[14:14] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: run 'whereis sudo'
[14:15] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc yeah i got a path now?
[14:16] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: run '/path/to/whereis bash' ie '/usr/bin/sudo bash' or '/usr/bin/sudo /bin/bash'
[14:16] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: sorry. '/path/to/sudo bash'
[14:16] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc i just need superuser privileges to run a tool
[14:17] <geirha> sudo -i
[14:18] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: if sudo bash is successful your prompt will change from $ to #
[14:19] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc i got no clue what that has to do with my problem? :S
[14:19] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: what is your problem?
[14:20] <yeeve> ducasse, I can get the xkb_symbols to work but if I try to remap the keycodes it doesn't seem to do anything and doesn't show any errors. I feel like I've got the syntax correct but It's just not working - code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25283820/ does anything stand out as being _wrong_?
[14:21] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc trying to get superuser previleges to run a tool which is on my desktop
[14:22] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: what graphical environment are you using?
[14:23] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc how to tell?
[14:23] <geirha> you can drag its icon from the desktop to the terminal window to have the exact path to it written in the terminal
[14:23] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc its is Ubuntu 17.04
[14:24] <paynemaster_> @geirha yeah i tried that but i still get no previleges
[14:24] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: on ubuntu 16 you can use gksudo
[14:25] <paynemaster_> how hard can it be to just run a tool in ubuntu -_-
[14:25] <geirha> paynemaster_: what type of file is it? Use the file command on it: file /path/to/tool
[14:25] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default
[14:28] <paynemaster_> @geurha no sure what i need to putt in
[14:28] <paynemaster_> @geirha not sure what u want me to putt in to see what file it is
[14:28] <paynemaster_> @geurha can't i just look at it in properties?
[14:32] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get install gksu'. when done run gksu (from the same terminal) and a graphical windows will appear
[14:33] <paynemaster_> @gabrielc yeah i did some say done. done last says unable to locate package gksu. Is that normal?
[14:34] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: you can install the packages
[14:34] <nacc> paynemaster_: do you have the universe component enabled? did you run `sudo apt update` first?
[14:35] <paynemaster_> @nacc no. i am a beginner on ubuntu
[14:35] <paynemaster_> @gabriel so i used sudo apt-get install gksu. Now i need to open gksu?
[14:36] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: yes, gksu or gksudo, try first with gksudo
[14:36] <nacc> paynemaster_: did `sudo apt-get install gksu` succeed? you just said it said "unable to locate package gksu"
[14:36] <yeeve> ducasse, I have a working example using keysymbols and xbindkeys :) thanks for all your help. still have a lot to read/learn but this is awesome so far!
[14:36] <yeeve> do we have karma in this channel?
[14:36] <paynemaster_> @nacc i don't know if it succeeded
[14:37] <gabrielc> paynemaster_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository
[14:37] <nacc> paynemaster_: did it install anything? or did it fail with the message you said?
[14:37] <ducasse> yeeve: cool, congrats :)
[14:38] <paynemaster_> @nacc i guess it failed with that message. Because i see nothing installed
[14:38] <nacc> paynemaster_: right, so first enable universe, then run `sudo apt update`, then run `sudo apt install gksu`
[14:39] <nacc> !components | paynemaster
[14:39] <paynemaster_> @nacc how do i enable universe?
[14:40] <Optiprism> Hi, I'm trying to get a fresh reinstall of everything on my ubuntu, I've read that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a" will do the trick, is this correct?
[14:42] <jnewt> just went to see if i should file a bug report for my scanner not working.  there's 132,208 open bugs on launchpad.net/ubuntu  ... i'm guessing one scanner not scanning the back page isn't getting any attention :(
[14:42] <pizzaBurger> Hey guys! I have a micro SD card and its not mounting. Checked 'sudo parted -l' and it does not show up. Any other way to test if the card is dead or not? Thanks!
[14:43] <nacc> jnewt: imo, you should always file a bug
[14:43] <nacc> Pyrrhic: see the link from gabrielc a moment ago
[14:43] <nacc> paynemaster_: --^
[14:43] <nacc> Pyrrhic: sorry, mis-tab
[14:43] <nacc> Optiprism: why not just reinstall?
[14:44] <ducasse> jnewt: look at sane-project.org if duplex is supported by your scanner driver
[14:44] <ducasse> pizzaBurger: lsblk
[14:44] <Optiprism> nacc: thought there was a better option, since I don't want to mess with boot orders and stuff
[14:44] <paynemaster_> @nacc sorry but i can't seem to find the right command on that page. -_-
[14:44] <bane5000> Anybody know of a working chromium apparmor profile for 16.04?
[14:45] <jnewt> ducasse: shows status Good, says "small, current, WiFi not supported. Hardware only scans in color. Backend generates binary and grayscale modes."
[14:46] <pizzaBurger> ducasse: so if it doesn't show up, and I know that every other part of the chain is working, that means the card is dead beyond repair?
[14:47] <ducasse> jnewt: i *think* it's usually mentioned if duplex is supported
[14:47] <ducasse> pizzaBurger: it would seem so
[14:47] <nacc> Optiprism: well, the command you gave just reconfigures packages, it doesn't 'reinstall' them
[14:47] <pizzaBurger> ducasse: alright, thanks a ton once again!
[14:48] <paynemaster_> @nacc all i am asking is just to get superuser privileges
[14:48] <nacc> paynemaster_: use sudo?
[14:48] <paynemaster_> @nacc its not working...
[14:49] <paynemaster_> @nacc i need to run a tool from toshiba. but i need superuser privileges
[14:49] <jnewt> ducasse: it says good means the device is usable for day-to-day work and exotic features may be missing.  mine blinks a the front light constantly, no wifi (that's ok), and will only scan one-side.  would you say that qualifies as "good"?  i'd say that would be minimal or basic at best.
[14:49] <nacc> paynemaster_: how did you try to run it with sudo?
[14:50] <paynemaster_> @nacc all sorts of ways. ''sudo /home/ubuntu/Desktop/SSDUtility
[14:50] <ducasse> jnewt: you'd need to take that up with the sane devs, not me
[14:51] <nacc> paynemaster_: as you've been told, if it's graphical, you probably need gksudo and need to install it. You've also been told how to add universe.
[14:51] <nacc> !components| paynemaster_: if you need it again
[14:52] <paynemaster_> @nacc they havent told be how i would know if its graphical
[14:52] <ducasse> jnewt: try #sane
[14:53] <nacc> paynemaster_: so you're trying to run a tool you don't know what it does or how to run it?
[14:53] <nacc> paynemaster_: also, what happens if you run it with sudo?
[14:54] <paynemaster_> @nacc ofcourse i know what it does. why would i be here the first place. i just need to get superuser
[14:55] <paynemaster_> the heck
[14:55] <paynemaster_> for some reason i got it working now :S
[14:56] <paynemaster_> just sudo /home/ubuntu/desktop/ssdutility just opened it. doing it all the time but for some reason it worked now. anyone can explain?
[14:56] <sparky1> hello?
[14:57] <sparky1> anyone help me with getting realtek rtl8723bs working?
[15:00] <paynemaster_> no reply?
[15:01] <sparky1> nope
[15:01] <paynemaster_> lol
[15:01] <paynemaster_> makes no sense to me really
[15:03] <paynemaster_> still got no clue why i needed to install universe when it is working now :S
[15:03] <oerheks> paynemaster_, then universe was enabled already
[15:03] <nacc> paynemaster_: because you *said* sudo didn't work.
[15:03] <nacc> paynemaster_: we aren't at your system, we have to trust you
[15:04] <paynemaster_> wel its a clean install. so i guess its enebled as default
[15:04] <ducasse> sparky1: you can try this driver - https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs
[15:04] <ducasse> sparky1: no guarantees, realtek chipsets are usually crap
[15:04] <oerheks> ducasse +1, or this ppa https://launchpad.net/~russianneuromancer/+archive/ubuntu/drivers
[15:05] <paynemaster_> sadly this ssd is not showing up :(
[15:05] <sparky1> yeah i already tried that github one, got no errors when building and installing but no dice so far
[15:06] <oerheks> sparky1, driver will be included in the kernel as of 4.12 ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1581711
[15:09] <ducasse> sparky1: check with lsmod that the driver is actually loaded, and see what dmesg says
[15:12] <sparky1> ducasse https://pastebin.com/7UyDnZjq
[15:12] <sparky1> soz im a bit of a newb :P
[15:14] <sparky1> when i try to install via .deb i get this error after install https://pastebin.com/VHKexbTi
[15:15] <ducasse> sparky1: try 'sudo modprobe rtl8723bs'
[15:15] <ducasse> sparky1: for the .deb i need the error from the make.log
[15:16] <sparky1> module rtl8723bs not found in directory /lib/modules/4.10.0-30-generic
[15:17] <ducasse> sparky1: find out what the module is called by looking in the source dir, it ends with .ko
[15:20] <vlt> Hello. I realized that each user's home directory could be read by any other user on our Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.  With the intention to change that I ran `cd /home; chmod 0700 *`.  In /home there are also a few dirs of currently "disabled" users named ".user" so I ran `chmod 0700 .*`, too and THAT might have been a huge mistake.
[15:21] <vlt> What does ".*" mean inside /home?
[15:21] <vlt> Does it include somehow ".." as well?
[15:22] <ducasse> vlt: try 'cd /home ; echo .*'
[15:23] <vlt> ducasse: Yes, I get ". .. .user1 .user2".
[15:23] <sparky1> cannot seem to find it
[15:25] <vlt> So I set "." (which should refer to /home itself) and ".." to 0700. What is /home/.. (/) supposed to be on standard Ubuntu?
[15:25] <gabrielc> vlt: read the man for chown too
[15:27] <gabrielc> vlt: /dir/.. is / and /dir/. is /dir
[15:28] <PCatinean> Hello, can someone please help me restore an incremental backup with duplicity that's not the latest?
[15:28] <PCatinean> I.e the latest excluding the latest
[15:30] <sparky1> soz pc shutdown
[15:31] <sparky1> ducasse where would i find it usr/src??
[15:33] <vlt> vlt: "/" seems to be 0755 by default.
[15:33] <oerheks> PCatinean, maybe this page is any help > duplicity -t <days>  .. https://serverfault.com/questions/242825/how-can-i-restore-a-duplicity-backup-from-a-certain-date
[15:35] <PCatinean> oerheks, I tried that but somehow it ends up getting some older backup for some reason
[15:36] <ducasse> sparky1: where you git cloned and built it
[15:37] <oerheks> 0
[15:39] <yeeve> ducasse, problems! xbindkeys doesn't seem to support the keysyms, XF86MonBrightnessDown doesn't trigger but the other format like "m:0x0 + c:77" will, the issue is that the second format effects buttons on both keyboards ... am I missing something obvous?
[15:39] <yeeve> I did try "Mod2 + XF86MonBrightnessDown" and just "XF86MonBrightnessDown" but neither seem to trigger the command
[15:40] <oerheks> PCatinean, no idea there :-(
[15:40] <ducasse> yeeve: can you ask xbindkeys to run in the foreground with verbose output, see what it says?
[15:42] <yeeve> ducasse, I tried running it `xbindkeys -n` but it doesn't show any output when I hit the keys but it does mention "Please verify that there is not another program running which captures one of the keys captured by xbindkeys." on startup
[15:43] <ducasse> yeeve: ok, kill xbindkeys and see if xev captures the key
[15:43] <ducasse> yeeve: i would expect that key to be bound by default in a de
[15:43] <marvin42> ducasse, while running the update my computer crashed
[15:44] <yeeve> xev captures all the keys and shows the correct keysyms (It shows state 0x0, keycode 77 (keysym 0x1008ff03, XF86MonBrightnessDown), same_screen YES)
[15:44] <marvin42> ducasse, I'm able to access it via the terminal. what can I do to resume and finish the upgrade process?
[15:45] <ducasse> yeeve: that would usually mean it isn't captured by another process...
[15:45] <yeeve> ducasse, it is possible I've messed this up somewhere else. I do have a few custom shortcuts I was playing around with before (I don't have media keys on my keyboard so I was assuming I technically didn't do this myself but you never know)
[15:45] <ducasse> marvin42: try 'sudo apt install -f' first, and then 'sudo apt full-upgrade'
[15:46] <ducasse> marvin42: after that, 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[15:46] <yeeve> ducasse, this is my .xbindkeyssrc - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25284191/ none of the commands run so maybe the media key stuff just won't work for me :S
[15:46] <ducasse> marvin42: then pray if that's your thing :)
[15:47] <marvin42> ducasse, doing 'sudo apt install -f' he asks me to do 'dkpg --configure -a'. I've done it. Plugin'n'praying now
[15:48] <ducasse> yeeve: i don't get why xbindkeys can't see the events...
[15:48] <ducasse> yeeve: are you using a de or a wm?
[15:49] <ducasse> marvin42: remember the full-upgrade, it's important
[15:49] <yeeve> I'm using XFCE
[15:50] <marvin42> ducasse,  after the sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[15:50] <yeeve> It's odd that it's not triggering on the keysyms format only, the other method did work, just on both sets of keypads
[15:50] <ducasse> marvin42: the important thing is that you run it
[15:51] <marvin42> ducasse, right! thanks a lot!
[15:51] <ducasse> marvin42: yw, i hope it works. it usually has when it's happened to me...
[15:51] <yeeve> ducasse, it also seems odd that xbindkeys -k shows the key being picked up in that case, it's only when you actually try to define the command it doesn't seem to work
[15:53] <ducasse> yeeve: i'd be interested to know if this happens if you're only running a wm... could you install something like openbox to test without xfce getting in the way?
[15:53] <yeeve> It must be WM/DE getting in the way :S If I define it as "m:0x0 + c:77" it works instantly and `xbindkeys -n` doesn't show that warning on startup :s
[15:53] <ducasse> right :)
[15:53] <ducasse> worth a shot.
[15:54] <yeeve> ducasse, I can't test that at the moment but I'll add it to my list to try tomorrow. I guess you're expecting the XF86 format to work on a basic WM straight away
[15:55] <ducasse> yeeve: there shouldn't be anything else interfering, unless the wm does so in the default config. pretty sure openbox for example doesn't do that.
[15:56] <ducasse> iirc there are two places to set kb bindings in xfce, one is under wm settings and the other is under keyboard. have you looked through both?
[15:56] <yeeve> Ok dude :) is it fairly safe to install openbox on a running system? I tried installing i3 before and it broke my XFCE login just being apt-getting it :P
[15:57] <ducasse> it absolutely should not do that. if something happens just purge the package and restart the display manager.
[15:58] <yeeve> WM Keyboard - doesn't have any XF86 type shortcuts defined. The basic Keyboard does have a couple like XF86WWW and XF86Mail but neither are used
[16:01] <ducasse> i'm guessing xfsettingsd is what would grab those keys, if something does, but that's just a WAG...
[16:01] <yeeve> WAG?
[16:01] <ducasse> wild-a** guess
[16:01] <yeeve> lol :P
[16:02] <yeeve> I think you're probably right, it's got to be XFCE getting in the way now :@
[16:02] <ducasse> there are so many layers it's hard to tell without trying something simpler
[16:03] <yeeve> I didn't realise half of the tech that went into this stuff, I've been through a lot of new stuff I didn't even know existed :P messy but interesting
[16:03] <yeeve> I'm sure I'll figure it out now I know what to be looking out for :P hopefully I can fix it without ditching XFCE but to be honest I do need to reinstall and have been looking at a few other WM/DE
[16:05] <yeeve> ducasse, I don't restart very often, do you think restarting my system might make everything fall into place if xbindkeys gets loaded before the WM key listener? Is that maybe too optimistic of a thought?
[16:06] <ducasse> not sure how that would work, or indeed how to do that. you could launch xbindkeys from ~/.xsessionrc, but i'm not sure what would start first
[16:09] <ducasse> yeeve: btw, i switched from xfce to i3 a couple of years ago, have not looked back. my needs are simple, though.
[16:10] <yeeve> that's interesting, I might have to reconsider doing it sooner rather than later :P in your opinion, should I reinstall with 17.04 or is it worth waiting for 17.10?
[16:11] <ducasse> yeeve: imo the upgrade is so simple it doesn't matter. just don't use a ton of ppas and it should upgrade just fine. i run 17.10 now, and it works well. lots of daily updates, though.
[16:12] <yeeve> I see, so go with 17.04 and then upgrade to 17.10?
[16:12] <yeeve> how do you have 17.10 already? Is it easy to get early-access to it?
[16:14] <ducasse> if you need to upgrade soon, i'd do that. 17.10 is publicly available, but i can't in good conscience recommend depending on a development release for your daily driver.
[16:16] <yeeve> Ah OK, I'll bare that in mind :) thanks for all the info today ducasse
[16:16] <marvin42> ducasse, apparently everything's fine. thanks a lot!
[16:17] <ducasse> yeeve: np. if you want to test 17.10 you can join #ubuntu+1 for support with that :)
[16:17] <yeeve> aha awesome :)
[16:18] <kappa1> hi
[16:18] <ducasse> marvin42: good :) if you had any ppas before the upgrade, they will be disabled now, so in that case look into re-enabling them.
[16:18] <kappa1> I am trying to boot ubuntu through rEFInd
[16:18] <kappa1> the problem is that refind is not passing the control to grub as it did before with refit
[16:19] <marvin42> ducasse, so I'll have to upgrade manually the packages I've installed with gdebi? I'm concerned with a virtualbox machine..
[16:21] <ducasse> marvin42: i'm talking about ppas, not locally installed packages. btw, you also need to run 'apt autoremove' to remove old stuff.
[16:22] <thinky> hi
[16:22] <thinky> how can i install firefox 55 to ubuntu 16.04 ?
[16:22] <thinky> doesnt it automatically update?
[16:22] <thinky> since it is default browser?
[16:22] <ducasse> marvin42: locally installed packages will remain installed as long as the dependencies are still available
[16:23] <ducasse> !info firefox xenial
[16:23] <nicomachus> thinky: current version is 54.0
[16:23] <thinky> but 55 is released?
[16:23] <nicomachus> !info firefox zesty
[16:24] <nicomachus> thinky: 55 was released 2 days ago. it'll take a while to get into the Ubuntu repos.
[16:25] <thinky> ok thx
[16:25] <ducasse> thinky: 55 will probably show up soon, it usually takes a few days
[16:25] <thinky> ok waiting
[16:35] <thinky> byes
[16:39] <nicomachus> Chromium got updated to 60, which is nice.
[16:40] <oerheks> seems like the chromium team got fresh help .. good
[16:45] <nicomachus> hopefully they fixed the flash bug.
[16:46] <oerheks> 'the' ??
[16:47] <nicomachus> Yes, Chromium's been throwing errors every time a page has flash elements saying "$1 plugin is out of date". which is weird. It actually says $1
[17:00] <BluesKaj> nicomachus, I switched to chrome , chromium is losing the race so to speak
[17:05] <adac> Guys on one of my server the time is 4 minutes in advance
[17:05] <adac> hwo can that happen?
[17:05] <KeyboardNotFound> Is there any way to encrypt full disk without losing my data ?
[17:06] <nemo> adac: hasn't synced against ntp yet?
[17:06] <nemo> adac: has contacted ntp but time discontinuity was so huge that ntp is slowly fixing it?
[17:06] <KeyboardNotFound> I would like to try this method: backup all files on external hard drive, encrypt the partition, restore the data
[17:06] <KeyboardNotFound> is it possible?
[17:07] <nemo> adac: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html#ntpdate  "slowly drift" - yeah. that's how I pretty much understood it to work
[17:07] <adac> nemo, is ntp running by default?
[17:07] <nemo> adac: trying to minimise disruption to apps that run at a particular time. crons and such
[17:07] <nemo> adac: yeah
[17:08] <nemo> adac: but ofc some network misconfig could cause contacting defaults to fail
[17:08] <adac> nemo, how can i check if it is running indeed?
[17:08] <nemo> adac: what version of ubuntu?
[17:09] <vlt> KeyboardNotFound: Yes, that's possible, of course. (There are even ways to encrypt existing data without copying it somewhere else but this isn't novice territory anymore.)
[17:09] <nemo> adac: note what that page says about programs having changed.
[17:09] <nemo> adac: once you know which one is used, you can just grep the process list
[17:09] <KeyboardNotFound> vlt: I'm advanced linux user.
[17:09] <nemo> adac: for example on my ubuntu 14.04... ps auwx | grep ntp
[17:09] <nemo> adac: yields... ntp       6408  0.0  0.1  33528  4436 ?        Ss   08:40   0:01 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g -u 117:125
[17:09] <adac> nemo, Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[17:09] <nemo> ok. so same
[17:09] <vlt> KeyboardNotFound: I'd still recommend the first solution.
[17:10] <adac>  ps auwx | grep ntp
[17:10] <adac> root     31430  0.0  0.0  11720  1724 pts/0    S+   19:10   0:00 grep --color=auto ntp
[17:10] <KeyboardNotFound> vlt: I will backup my data, so feel free to share any methods.
[17:10] <adac> hmm it only shows grep
[17:10] <nemo> adac: not running then
[17:10] <nemo> adac: it also spams syslog so you could check there for what might have happened
[17:10] <vlt> KeyboardNotFound: Others involve pure dmcrypt (without LUKS header) and careful operation with dd and blocksizes ;-)
[17:10] <adac> nemo, is the pakage name ntp as well?
[17:11] <nemo> adac: I think client and server are in same package yeah
[17:11] <adac> dpkg --list | grep ntp
[17:11] <adac> ii  ntpdate                              1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.8 amd64        client for setting system time from NTP servers
[17:12] <nemo> adac: ok. that matches the ubuntu page I linked you to 😉
[17:12] <psychoticwarrior> how come my external HD works but on boot it says unkown filesystem
[17:13] <adac> nemo, is it not constantly running as a daemon?
[17:13] <adac> IÄm confused
[17:13] <nemo> adac: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html#timedatectl
[17:13] <hggdh> psychoticwarrior: it is probably dependent on a filesystem module that is not included at boot time
[17:13] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[17:13] <psychoticwarrior> how d i fix it
[17:14] <FrostbyteGR> Hey there guys, I'm having trouble getting an I2C sensor working on Raspberry Pi 3 using Ubuntu 16.04 .. any clue? Installed libi2c-dev and added i2c-dev in /etc/modules but no dice, i2cdetect -r 1 displays just hyphens
[17:14] <FrostbyteGR> I can confirm that the sensor works properly on an ASUS Tinker Board also running ubuntu from armbian
[17:15] <nemo> adac: at least on my bog standard ubuntu desktop ntp was indeed installed by default and launched
[17:15] <nemo> adac: I have no idea what's up with your machine, but easily fixed by installing it and starting it ☺
[17:15] <nemo> sudo service ntp start
[17:16] <vlt> adac: Afaik, recent ubuntu versions don't use the ntp pkg and do their own time syncing.
[17:16] <nemo> adac: maybe you accidentally removed it when installing one of the other time packages
[17:16] <nemo> vlt: he has same 14.04 as me
[17:17] <nemo> vlt: link I sent him above says this is what ubuntu does these days.. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html#timedatectl   no idea if that's accurate with very latest distros
[17:17] <pavlos> FrostbyteGR: you may need to run sudo raspi-config and enable i2c in advanced options
[17:17] <nemo> vlt: but anyway. pretty sure my ntp under 14.04 is just the standard ubuntu settings
[17:17] <FrostbyteGR> pavlos: raspi-config is not available. neither at the image, nor at the repository
[17:18] <FrostbyteGR> I've executed the actions this procedure would do (/etc/modules and so on)
[17:18] <adac> vlt, nemo I'm still confused :( not surehow I can check which service is responsible for my time sync
[17:18] <adac> ntpdate seems to be installed
[17:18] <pavlos> FrostbyteGR: here's a link if it helps (see the i2c section) ... https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/raspberry-pi-spi-and-i2c-tutorial
[17:19] <FrostbyteGR> pavlos: I have already read that, and it doesn't mention anything besides the raspi-config way
[17:20] <FrostbyteGR> is it possible to get raspi-config from somewhere? I've heard it's dangerous to use though, as it's has been deprecated
[17:21] <adac> nemo, vlt https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c466db185b96a53af321ce04b0428ec5
[17:21] <adac> actually this is the output of timedatectl
[17:23] <pavlos> FrostbyteGR: you should be able to apt update and then apt install raspi-config
[17:23] <FrostbyteGR> One moment please, I just found out something
[17:24] <FrostbyteGR> dtparam=i2c_vc=on enables /dev/i2c-0
[17:24] <nemo> adac: welp.. apt-file says that ntp provides /usr/sbin/ntpd which does not surprise me terribly ☺
[17:25] <nemo> openntpd does too apparently
[17:25] <dckx> hi everyone, I've trying to figure this one out a coouple of days now with no success. The 50-ssynaptics.conf file disappeared from X11/Xorg.conf.d. What file is now storing my touchpad settings? There is a 70-synapptics.conf file, but I added some custom stuff and when I run synclient on terminal, after rebooting, the changes are not being applied.
[17:25] <nemo> adac: aaand surprise surprise, dpkg confirms that's where my ntpd comes from ☺  soooo
[17:29] <El_Goose> Hi! I'm trying to do something in an Ubuntu VM but I keep getting this error of "read only filesystem" how do I fix this?
[17:34] <adac> nemo, this seems to be the problem
[17:34] <FrostbyteGR> pavlos: E: Unable to locate package raspi-config
[17:34] <adac> https://www.tecklyfe.com/fix-ubuntu-timedatectl-ntp-sync-no/
[17:35] <pavlos> FrostbyteGR: you may need a repo in sources.list ... let me look
[17:35] <FrostbyteGR> pavlos: I was not able to query the sensor via /dev/i2c-0 , but I get the 0x43 and 0x1c addresses there
[17:35] <vlt> El_Goose: Recent Ubuntu versions seem to need a line in /etc/fstab for / to mount it rw.
[17:35] <FrostbyteGR> pavlos: the expected address according to the sensor datasheet is 0x44 .. so close :(
[17:36] <nemo> adac: ah. that makes sense.  I guess due to upgrade from an older ubuntu?  this system here was a clean fresh install of 14.04
[17:39] <adac> nemo, I have no clue where this comes from actually. Could be yes
[17:39] <adac> nemo, from the howto this "Update NTP Time And Start Service" is not actually working
[17:40] <adac> there is no ntp
[17:40] <nemo> adac: apt-get reinstall ntp   I guess?
[17:41] <nemo> er install --reinstall ?
[17:41] <nemo> never remember how that command works
[17:42] <adac> nemo, it was not isntalled at all
[17:42] <adac> i just installed it via apt-get install
[17:46] <Speed_> i can only acsess 2 of my screen sessions, when i do C - a - # it does nothing
[17:51] <gabrielc> Speed_: you can create a new window with control+a c by default
[17:52] <Speed_> there are more windows but i cant get to them all
[17:53] <gabrielc> Speed_: can you close all windows and exit from screen? maybe some window has running a job or something
[17:54] <gabrielc> Speed_: to start from 0
[17:54] <vlt> Speed_: What does Ctrl-a " look like?
[17:54] <Speed_> "switch to window"
[17:56] <vlt> Speed_: I'd expect that from Ctrl-a '
[17:56] <vlt> Speed_: Numlock?
[17:56] <vlt> *Caps lock
[17:57] <Speed_> it lis them all
[17:57] <Speed_> litst*
[18:00] <Speed_> looks like it might be a client error, because other clients can switch to other wondows
[18:00] <Speed_> windows*
[18:01] <gabrielc> Speed_: control+a n for next window. control+a p for previous window
[18:01] <Speed_> that did nothing, it only switched from 1 and 2
[18:02] <gabrielc> Speed_: can you create a new window?
[18:02] <Speed_> yes
[18:02] <Speed_> i stoped screen and restarrted it too
[18:02] <vlt> Speed_: Can you switch to one of the listed windows in Ctrl-a " mode?
[18:03] <vlt> using the up/down arrow keys and [enter]?
[18:17] <Optiprism> Hey guys, I'm trying to install CUDA, is this the right place to ask for help?
[18:18] <Optiprism> when I do "nvidia-smi" it says that the latest NVIDIA driver isn't installed
[18:40] <hethkar> Why i am not able to install packages like gdebi, inxi from a live usb ubuntu session(try ubuntu)- 16.04.03 for gdebi i get (Package gdebi is not availabel but is referred to by another package) and for inxi E:unable to locate package inxi
[18:44] <krytarik> hethkar: Make sure the 'universe' repo is enabled.
[18:45] <hethkar> krytarik: thanks
[18:45] <Speed_> it seams like there was something wrong with the client, 3 other clients could swithc but the one could not.
[18:46] <Speed_> i have another dumb question, im trying to compile and run c++ code that i wrote, so i used g++ and it created the a.out file as expected so then i did ./a.out but it says command not found, what should i do?
[19:08] <ducasse> Speed_: 'chmod +x a.out'
[19:10] <Speed_> still says command not found
[19:10] <ioria> a.out should be a binary ...
[19:10] <ioria> ./a.out
[19:10] <Speed_> thats what i did
[19:11] <Speed_> its on my usb stick
[19:11] <ducasse> Speed_: is that mounted noexec?
[19:11] <Speed_> i have no idea
[19:11] <Speed_> probably is
[19:11] <ioria> Speed_, it's not in your path
[19:12] <ducasse> shouldn't need to be with ./ in front
[19:12] <ioria> yes , if it's not in the path
[19:14] <ioria> if you put it in ~/bin or in /usr/local/bin you don't need it
[19:14] <xMopxShell> how can i make gnome remember my open windows and positions? I found and enabled the "auto-save-session", but it doesn't seem to work.
[19:15] <ducasse> xMopxShell: not all applications have session support
[19:16] <xMopxShell> do you know which do? I tried nautalis windows, chromium, and terminal
[19:16] <fradeco> hey guys, I have a question: After I press the meta key I can select a window with alt+1-9, but only on my primary monitor. Can I expand that somehow to my secondary screen?
[19:17] <fradeco> I can't find any settings for that...
[19:17] <ducasse> xMopxShell: hmm, i'd expect most gnome applications at least to support it
[19:19] <ducasse> fradeco: that depends on what desktop/wm you use
[19:20] <arm1e> Hi, I would like to learn how to make snap packages, but I think I may need to learn how to compile normal packages first. Any help or guides that can point me in the right direction? I have made the 'Hello World' snap following the snapcraft tutorial but am now lost
[19:22] <ducasse> arm1e: there used to be a pretty good, extensive guide on the debian wiki, it's most likely still there
[19:26] <ducasse> arm1e: start here - https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging
[19:36] <adac> Will it be posisble to upgrade 17.04 to the next LTS (Will be 18.04 I guess)
[19:37] <ducasse> adac: 17.04 is not lts
[19:37] <ducasse> adac: 16.04 was, 18.04 will be
[19:38] <ducasse> adac: to upgrade 17.04 to 18.04 you will need to go via 17.10
[19:39] <adac> ducasse, ok os first upgrade then to 17.10 and then to 18.04
[19:39] <adac> *so
[19:40] <ducasse> right
[19:43] <fradeco> hey guys, I have a question: After I press the meta key I can select a window with alt+1-9, but only on my primary monitor. Can I expand that somehow to my secondary screen?
[19:46] <adac> ducasse, thanks!
[19:49] <ducasse> fradeco: as i said, this depends on what desktop you are using - you need to tell us that first.
[20:02] <Jordan_U> jackhum: Have you been able to restore your ESP yet?
[20:10] <fradeco> ducasse: using the gnome desktop
[20:11] <Exterminador> hello guys. I've tried to install a snap on one spare machine that I have, but seems OpenVZ doesn't support snap installs. it there any way to circumvent that?
[20:12] <fradeco> ducasse: was in the gnome chat, there i didn't to mention that ;)
[20:12] <fradeco> but there is not too much going on there
[20:12] <ducasse> fradeco: don't think gnome supports that as-is, but you can probably do it yourself with xbindkeys and wmctrl
[20:14] <fradeco> I think i came right out of the box with that...
[20:14] <fradeco> *it
[20:17] <ducasse> Exterminador: snaps require some relatively recent kernel features to work afaik, i'm guessing your host doesn't offer them
[20:18] <Exterminador> seems not
[20:18] <Exterminador> still kernel 2.6 I guess
[20:19] <fradeco> ducasse: it seems to be controlled by a default extension: Windownavigator
[20:20] <fradeco> if i turn that off it is not possible to select a window with alt anymore
[20:23] <Jordan_U> Exterminador: The last 2.6.xx release was in 2011. You should consider whether or not you want to continue with a host using such an old kernel.
[20:25] <oerheks> 2.6 .. sounds like vagrant?
[20:25] <Exterminador> what's the latest kernel for OpenVZ?
[20:25] <oerheks> 2.6 is the latest for openvz .. with some patches i guess..
[20:26] <Exterminador> it's the one they're using
[20:26] <Exterminador> lxc containers are similar right?
[20:27]  * oerheks is not saying it is old and vulnerable.. just not that sophisticated
[20:29] <Exterminador> yeah. seems lxc containers work same way
[20:29] <Exterminador> no way to install snaps?
[20:29] <oerheks> no, openvz does not support lxc, HW virtualisation or windows support https://openvz.org/Comparison
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Exterminador: oerheks: From what I gather OpenVZ is a technology supported by the upstream kernel, at least for most features, and thus the latest "OpenVZ kernel" would be 4.12.
[20:30] <Exterminador> I do have an lxc machine somewhere
[20:31] <Exterminador> I was trying to install a rocketchat-server
[20:31] <oerheks> vagrant supports up to 14.04 ... so snap support is possible
[20:32] <oerheks> Jordan_U, ah, patched it is
[20:32] <Exterminador> but the command they provide is 'snap install rockectchat-server'
[20:33] <Exterminador> and none of them did supported that. I guess only my KVM server do support it
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Exterminador: I don't think you can use snaps within any other container technology. KVM is virtualization rather than containerization so it will work fine.
[20:36] <Jordan_U> oerheks: http://openvz.livejournal.com/42793.html says that patches are desireable but not required for using OpenVZ, unless that has changed since 2012.
[20:37] <Exterminador> well, but on the KVM server I have some warning on webmin related to /snap about no space left I guess
[20:38] <Bundestrojaner> good evening. how can i set the environment variable for sane mentioned in note 3? http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-announce/2017/000036.html
[20:39] <Bundestrojaner> my frontend is xsane
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Bundestrojaner: I believe that "SANE_USB_WORKAROUND=1 xsane" should do it.
[20:40] <Bundestrojaner> Jordan_U: i think so too, but i have no idea in which config file
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Bundestrojaner: Literally run that in a terminal and things should work. Do you want help changing the launcher so you don't have to use the terminal to launch xsane?
[20:42] <Bundestrojaner> Jordan_U: without export?
[20:42] <Bundestrojaner> Jordan_U: Changing the launcher would be great
[20:44] <Jordan_U> Bundestrojaner: Correct. Setting the variable in the same line as you run the command exports the variable for just that command. If you ran "SANE_USB_WORKAROUND=1; export SANE_USB_WORKAROUND; xsane" it would also work. I think that you should test that running the command I gave actually allows your scanner to work.
[20:46] <Bundestrojaner> Jordan_U: I've just exectuted "SANE_USB_WORKAROUND=1; export SANE_USB_WORKAROUND; xsane" - it didn't work. But i have no idea if the workaround works for my scanner...
[20:48] <Jordan_U> Bundestrojaner: Are you even using Sane-backends 1.0.27? It apparently was only released in May, and that workaround doesn't apply to earlier versions.
[20:50] <Bundestrojaner> 1.0.27
[20:54] <Jordan_U> Bundestrojaner: It appears that particular workaround is not going to get your scanner working.
[21:01] <Bundestrojaner> Jordan_U: thx anyway
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Bundestrojaner: You're welcome. Good luck.
[21:06] <alfatau> Hi everybody! This https://pastebin.com/S7ZwGPtW is my use case. Given this use case, can you suggest me (if it exists) some idea or workaround to get my VMs I/O performance better? Thank you in advance
[21:09] <Jordan_U> alfatau: #btrfs would probably be more helpful. To be sure, you do have nocow set on all your disk images, correct? (Yes, I know this doesn't prevent fragmentation from snapshots.)
[21:21] <autopsy> Drone`
[21:28] <KeyboardNotFound> I found out that I don't have the "update-manager" installed on my pc. How is it possible ?
[21:28] <KeyboardNotFound> I'm sure I haven't remove it manually.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> KeyboardNotFound: What happens when you run "update-manager" in a terminal? Please pastebin the output of "apt policy ubuntu-desktop".
[21:30] <KeyboardNotFound> Jordan_U: now I installed the "update-manager". Also I'm not using ubuntu with xfce, not the default so there's no installed ubuntu-desktop
[21:35] <KeyboardNotFound> I scrolled through all my apt logs and found out that when I purged java, update-manager was removed. Is it dependent on java?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> KeyboardNotFound: "apt policy xubuntu-desktop" then.
[21:36] <KeyboardNotFound> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25286014/
[21:39] <Jordan_U> KeyboardNotFound: No, update-manager does not depend on java.
[21:40] <KeyboardNotFound> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25286030/
[21:42] <Jordan_U> KeyboardNotFound: OK. xubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on all of the packages installed by default when you install Xubuntu. You probably want to re-install it, and you'll see what other things have somehow gotten removed (maybe some intentionally and others not).
[21:42] <Exterminador> when i login into webmin i have this info.. how can i see what i have on those locations, if they are needed and how to erase them if not needed? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/51xTJHFw/no_space_snap.png
[21:43] <KeyboardNotFound> Jordan_U: Ok, I'm going to reinstall it
[21:45] <KeyboardNotFound> Jordan_U: Now I have installed the last version in apt policy
[21:45] <KeyboardNotFound> But I'm still curious how my update-manager disappeared and put my computer on high risk with using outdated software more than 1 month...
[21:58] <hanasaki> what will provide a vpn that can run over standard SSH port 22 and also tunnel over https?
[22:01] <th0r> hanasaki, I think you misunderstand how vpns work
[22:02] <hanasaki> looking for a vpn that will use standard SSH as its protocol.  Also that can tunnel over httpS for when it is behind a firewall
[22:08] <gabrielc> hanasaki: i think you are searching any vps with sshd server
[22:08] <rypervenche> hanasaki: You can also set up your own if you have a VPN or server in another location.
[22:10] <donofrio_> so help new install of 17.04 and I get this (mouse moves aross both screens and I can even bring up terminal on left side - any thoughts of how to fix? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm4Z_w3Cbr3OW7rNKHw  hwinfo@ https://apaste.info/naDx
[22:15] <plaindave> I just installed Lubuntu again because my laptop is slow. I can't seem to turn my touchpad off. I've tried just about everything. Any ideas?
[22:17] <donofrio_> anyone know how I can fix my video issues, was perfect during install but after reboot.... ;(
[22:18] <donofrio_> my dmesg is https://apaste.info/X1vH
[22:23] <KeyboardNotFound> Why I can't upgrade firefox from version 54 (available in apt repository) to firefox 55?
[22:23] <hanasaki> gabrielc: and rypervenche .  need to setup my own vpn server.    gabrielc do you have a reference to how to setup the server?   in this case there is no VPS (virtual private server) ..  the need is a full vpn
[22:24] <rypervenche> hanasaki: You will need a separate network and a machine on it where you will install your VPN. If you do not have that, then you will need get it first.
[22:25] <hanasaki> I have it
[22:27] <rypervenche> hanasaki: Then you can proceed. I like OpenVPN, personally. It's not too too hard to get set up. You'll probably want to use a guide to set it up though.
[22:28] <hanasaki> what do you prefer about openvpn?    I am looking at it however, 1. it looks like its own proprietary protocol and 2. it doesn't tunnel over https (this is needed)
[22:28] <donofrio_> anyone got time to help me fix my video issue...
[22:28] <hanasaki> rypervenche:  also, what controls the mapping of remote user ID to vpn server user ID?  much like the NFS mapping of UID
[22:29] <hanasaki> donofrio_:  don't ask to ask.. just present the issue and ask for what  you need
[22:29] <rypervenche> hanasaki: There is no user mapping. It is not like NFS. You will have access to the remote network's network.
[22:29] <donofrio_> hanasaki, so help new install of 17.04 and I get this (mouse moves aross both screens and I can even bring up terminal on left side - any thoughts of how to fix? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm4Z_w3Cbr3OW7rNKHw  hwinfo@ https://apaste.info/naDx
[22:29] <donofrio_> hanasaki, my dmesg is https://apaste.info/X1vH
[22:29] <hanasaki> rypervenche:  perfect
[22:31] <donofrio_> hanasaki, were you able to see my screenshot and the inxi output and do you know how to resolve my video issue
[22:31] <hanasaki> donofrio_:  does y9our bcm card work?  had issues with mine...  looks like your sync might be off... have you tried it with JUST the monitor that doesn't work?
[22:32] <hanasaki> donofrio_:  check your X logs.. does the driver match the graphics card in hardware?   any EE or warnings?
[22:32] <donofrio_> hanasaki, uh when it was 16.04 is looked find and both were hooked up I'll shutdown and remove the sencond monitor
[22:32] <KeyboardNotFound> Why I can't upgrade firefox from version 54 (available in apt repository) to firefox 55?
[22:33] <hanasaki> donofrio_:  ... no... reboot with JUST the 2nd monitor that currently doesnot work
[22:33] <hanasaki> rypervenche:  so far openvpn system starts lOL but no process running
[22:34] <rypervenche> hanasaki: OpenVPN takes a bit of configuring before it will work.
[22:34] <hanasaki> rypervenche:  lol I noticed... can it tunnel over an http/https connection?
[22:34] <donofrio_> hanasaki, second monitor is working that is why I said I can bring up terminal, I just have a hard time logging in cause I cannot see the gui well on right nbuilt in monitor
[22:35] <hanasaki> ah
[22:35] <donofrio_> hanasaki, and where is X.log anymore...I checked /var/log but couldn't see X11.lloog
[22:35] <gabrielc> hanasaki: you may also want to read about strongswan
[22:35] <hanasaki> donofrio_:  and if you ONLY have the first monitor installed?
[22:35] <rypervenche> hanasaki: It does not use the HTTP or HTTPS protocol, however you could run it over port 80 or 443 if you wanted to.
[22:35] <hanasaki> rypervenche:  yes. I know.  I was asking about tunneling it over httpS
[22:35] <rypervenche> hanasaki: Why would you want to do that?
[22:36] <hanasaki> gabrielc:  what do you prefer about strongswan vs openvpn and visa versa?
[22:36] <hanasaki> rypervenche:  as stated... to go through a firewall and http proxy
[22:37] <gabrielc> hanasaki: everything depends on the needs and results of the tests you do
[22:39] <gabrielc> hanasaki: for example what devices/software will be VPN clients
[22:39] <hanasaki> windows/mac/linux
[22:39] <hanasaki> gabrielc:  is there a matrix of what each is good or not so good for?
[22:39] <donofrio_> hanasaki, upon reboot left monitor is turned off and unplugged and right mointor looks "just like my 1drv link"
[22:42] <hanasaki> does the monitor work OK when it is the only one plugged in?
[22:43] <donofrio_> hanasaki, no it looks like the photo I posted (aka like and analog tv set that cannot tune into  channel)
[22:46] <hanasaki> donofrio_:  try the monitor on another computer?  try it on the same video port that the working monitor is on
[22:46] <donofrio_> hanasaki, I guess your helping too many peole at one cause you missed my whole problem - the built in mointor is not working in 17.04, the second external montor is working great....
[22:47] <donofrio_> hanasaki, it's an imac so I cannot just "plug it in to another computer"
[22:47] <Abbott> does ubuntu ship with a remote desktop solution
[22:48] <donofrio_> Abbott, I use remmina (you'll need remmina-plugin-rdp for windows hosts)
[22:51] <gabrielc> hanasaki: read about the characteristics of each one. so you will see which is better for you
[22:52] <gabrielc> i
[22:52] <gabrielc> it's dinner time. cya
[22:52] <pvl1> so. packages (.deb) are specific to versions right? like, if u cant find one for ur version of debian/linux, you should compile
[22:52] <pvl1> or risk breaking stuff
[22:53] <pvl1> s/so\.//
[22:53] <pvl1> oh kool that worked lol
[22:53] <nacc> pvl1: you should not mix packages from different versions, yes.
[22:53] <pvl1> UGH
[22:53] <pvl1> FINE
[22:59] <donofrio_> If anyone has some time and feel like helping here is my new install of 17.04 and I get this (mouse moves aross both screens and I can even bring up terminal on left side - any thoughts of how to fix? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm4Z_w3Cbr3OW7rNKHw  hwinfo@ https://apaste.info/naDx
[22:59] <behelit> On deep water: trying to upgrade 10.04 on a live server :) Have updated all sources to old-releases, but now I'm hit with "ERROR:root:Can not find backport 'libapt-pkg4.12'" and it restores the state of the machine
[23:01] <behelit> Ah. Seems to be some other reference to archive.ubuntu.com
[23:01] <donofrio_> behelit, 10.04?
[23:02] <behelit> yeah
[23:02] <behelit> donofrio_: it's kind of old
[23:03] <behelit> maybe it is not still possible?
[23:03] <donofrio_> behelit, just wondered (I mean I still use 12.04 on myppc hosts fwiw)
[23:04] <donofrio_> behelit, never give up never surrender (I mean google and here is your friend)
[23:07] <tgm4883> behelit: honestly, I'd do a fresh install of 16.04 rather than 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 but it should technically still be possible to do it
[23:09] <causative> how do I disable "alt" as the key to show the dash?  I have tried ccsm setting the "Key to show the Dash, Launcher and Help Overlay" to "Disabled" but "alt" is still showing me the dash...
[23:10] <behelit> yeah maybe that is the way to go
[23:11] <causative> do I have to reboot?
[23:11] <EriC^^> causative: go to keyboard in settings
[23:11] <EriC^^> shortcuts > key to show hud
[23:12] <causative> thanks
[23:19] <bonhoeffer> i'm having trouble connecting via ssh -- i have the correct public key in authorized_keys and get this from the auth log: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/063b5292cee8007abf1333ca2d3d58d2
[23:19] <bonhoeffer> any troubleshooting options appreciated
[23:22] <donofrio_> If anyone has some time and feel like helping here is my new install of 17.04 and I get this (mouse moves aross both screens and I can even bring up terminal on left side - any thoughts of how to fix? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm4Z_w3Cbr3OW7rNKHw  hwinfo@ https://apaste.info/naDx
[23:26] <oerheks> donofrio_, for artfull, join #ubuntu+1 until release
[23:27] <nacc> oerheks: 17.04 is out
[23:27] <nacc> oerheks: artful = 17.10
[23:27] <oerheks> jups, i know ?
[23:28] <nacc> oerheks: donofrio_ is on 17.04 (per their msg)
[23:28] <oerheks> he typs 17.04, but his specs say 17.10
[23:28] <nacc> oerheks: ah!
[23:28] <nacc> oerheks: sorry!
[23:29] <oerheks> please keep correcting me if i am wrong :-D
[23:36] <donofrio_> nacc I'll rebuilt without dist-upgrade.....figured folks would want to know 'what will break next' but #ubuntu+1 is not a full room like this is (only 100 folks and no-one talking)
[23:36] <nacc> donofrio_: "rebuilt withou dist-upgrade"? all 17.10 support goes there, not here, regardless of how popular each channel is
[23:37] <donofrio_> nacc, yes I'm rebuilding right now with just 17.04 give me 15 min to report results of rebuild
[23:37] <nacc> donofrio_: oh i see, ok
[23:44] <peter12345123> could someone here help me with an internet connection issue I seem to have only on my ubuntu OS? Based on stack overflow answers I dont think it's an issue with my DNS, so I'm very confused. Much appreciated!
[23:44] <glisignoli> Hello, does anyone know how to make a package availabe in a preseed installation environment?
[23:45] <nacc> glisignoli: when do you need it in the preseed env?
[23:46] <glisignoli> Before I run my late_command
[23:47] <nacc> glisignoli: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/example-preseed.txt (there's a similare file for ubuntu on the help page, i think), see the bottom
[23:47] <nacc> glisignoli: just put in your late-command 'apt-install ...'
[23:47] <nacc> glisignoli: that won't affect your target, though, just the installer env
[23:48] <glisignoli> Ok I'll give that a go. Thans!
[23:49] <nacc> glisignoli: yw