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| didrocks | bonjour ! | 06:03 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:23 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 06:24 |
| seb128 | re didrocks :-) | 06:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I uploaded ubuntu-settings btw | 06:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for the notice! btw, upstream fixed the rhythmbox plugin | 06:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I guess we should probably have a migration script that adds the new alternative toolbar to the active plugins in gsettings, wdyt? | 06:34 |
| seb128 | ah, nice | 06:34 |
| didrocks | hum, yeah for people who changes their settings | 06:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: maybe put it in the plugin package? | 06:34 |
| seb128 | yeah, I was unsure if we decided that was a rb thing | 06:35 |
| seb128 | or just an Ubuntu session thing and would put it with the other migration bits | 06:35 |
| didrocks | well, it needs to be another script that the "unity -> g-s" one | 06:36 |
| didrocks | but yeah, you can add the script in ubuntu session if you want | 06:36 |
| didrocks | (just another script) | 06:36 |
| seb128 | let me give it some consideration | 06:36 |
| seb128 | there is no hurry doing that | 06:36 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: keep it noted down somewhere so that we don't forget :) | 06:37 |
| seb128 | salut oSoMoN, ça va ? | 06:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right | 06:37 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, très bien, et toi? | 06:37 |
| seb128 | ça va bien, vendredi ! | 06:37 |
| seb128 | channel is going to be empty this afternoon | 06:37 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, you are off as well iirc? | 06:38 |
| didrocks | bon vendredi oSoMoN | 06:38 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, yes, I’m taking the afternoon off | 06:39 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks! | 06:39 |
| seb128 | k, so we all 3 are off this afternoon | 06:39 |
| seb128 | some people at debconf | 06:39 |
| seb128 | going to be a quiet friday :-) | 06:39 |
| didrocks | no french contagency on Friday afternoon, oh my! | 06:39 |
| seb128 | that's ok we don't have enough people from another language in the team that they could try to take over | 06:41 |
| duflu | umm, salut didrocks, seb128, oSoMoN | 06:43 |
| didrocks | hey duflu ;) | 06:43 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, happy friday afternoon! | 06:44 |
| duflu | seb128, yes and no. I'm a bit unwell but only a few hours left | 06:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: rebased on ubuntu-settings, trying to keep your commits in mainline, even this bzr merge was painful… :p | 06:45 |
| didrocks | I guess I see the point of rebasing rather | 06:46 |
| didrocks | (to fix issues when they happen) | 06:46 |
| duflu | seb128, it appears pulseaudio will soon be unblocked: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abi-compliance-checker/1.99.22-1ubuntu1 | 06:47 |
| seb128 | duflu, oh, sorry to read that, you did good work this week you should just call it a day and go get some rest | 06:47 |
| seb128 | duflu, right, I retried on amd64 but it picked the version in artful not artful-proposed | 06:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you remember how to trigger an autopkgtest telling it to use artful-proposed? | 06:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: you mean, trigger one package in -proposed, telling to use another package from -proposed? | 06:51 |
| * didrocks looks at it bash history | 06:51 | |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:51 |
| seb128 | yes | 06:51 |
| didrocks | my bash history doesn't go that far :( | 06:52 |
| seb128 | I didn't migrate my irc log over to that disk | 06:52 |
| duflu | seb128, my simplest suggestion is to enable proposed then just 'apt install ...' one package, then disable proposed. Maybe there is a simpler way? | 06:54 |
| duflu | with apt update too | 06:54 |
| seb128 | duflu, we don't have login access to that infra, there is a command to try the retry and you can tell it to use proposed with some flag or something iirc | 06:58 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah no problem. Ignore it for a while :) | 06:59 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning seb128 oSoMoN didrocks duflu | 07:24 |
| duflu | Morning flexiondotorg | 07:24 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg, how are you? | 07:24 |
| oSoMoN | good morning flexiondotorg | 07:24 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128 Back from holiday. So still feeling fresh :-) | 07:24 |
| seb128 | that's good | 07:24 |
| flexiondotorg | What 's new in desktop land? | 07:24 |
| didrocks | hey flexiondotorg, welcome back! | 07:25 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks o/ | 07:25 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks So you pinged me about gschema overrides a few days ago? | 07:26 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: indeed, I think if you rely on our overrides (like the ones coming from ubuntu-settings package), you will need to add "ubuntu" to DesktopNames | 07:26 |
| didrocks | if you are using different schemas… no need to worry :p | 07:27 |
| flexiondotorg | Let me check... | 07:27 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: also, if you override other schemas like gnome or unity ones, we'll need to talk to not trash other settings ;) | 07:28 |
| flexiondotorg | I override one com.ubuntu gschema. | 07:29 |
| flexiondotorg | [com.ubuntu.update-manager] | 07:29 |
| flexiondotorg | show-details=true | 07:29 |
| flexiondotorg | show-versions=true | 07:29 |
| flexiondotorg | And serveral org.gnome schemas | 07:29 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: what does XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP shows? | 07:30 |
| flexiondotorg | Are all the Ubuntu gschema overrides committed? | 07:30 |
| flexiondotorg | MATE | 07:30 |
| didrocks | ok, I suggest thus that you add :MATE to those overrides | 07:31 |
| didrocks | so that they only apply to you | 07:31 |
| didrocks | (it's working only with the glib in proposed right now) | 07:31 |
| didrocks | like: | 07:31 |
| didrocks | [com.ubuntu.update-manager:MATE] | 07:31 |
| didrocks | ofc, do that only for settings from the mate packages ;) | 07:31 |
| flexiondotorg | Understood. | 07:31 |
| didrocks | basically, the idea is: | 07:31 |
| didrocks | - defaults are overriden | 07:31 |
| didrocks | - if the user change something, it's then global to all DE | 07:32 |
| didrocks | as it's a user perference | 07:32 |
| didrocks | preference* | 07:32 |
| flexiondotorg | If I added the :MATE suffix now, before new glibc is out of proposed will it break anything? | 07:33 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: it's libglib, yeah, before it's out of proposed, you won't see you overrides | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | OK | 07:33 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: so, you don't install /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override, correct? | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | What is the ETA for it being promoted from proposed? | 07:34 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: once autopkgtest works | 07:34 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: you can add ppa:ubuntu-desktop/transitions | 07:34 |
| didrocks | if you want to test :) | 07:34 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: if you rely on /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override settings as well, we can make that works out for you | 07:35 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks 10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override is NOT installed on Ubuntu MATE. | 07:35 |
| didrocks | ok :) | 07:35 |
| didrocks | even better, the net benefit is that if people install it, you won't be impacted anymore :) | 07:35 |
| didrocks | (as we use :ubuntu postfix) | 07:35 |
| didrocks | which is in unity and G-S sessions | 07:35 |
| flexiondotorg | I assume org.onboard and org.yorba should be modified in my overrides too? | 07:36 |
| didrocks | onboard is global | 07:38 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25288819/ | 07:38 |
| * flexiondotorg looks... | 07:38 | |
| flexiondotorg | Understood. | 07:39 |
| didrocks | thanks flexiondotorg, tell me if you need any help :) | 07:40 |
| flexiondotorg | Some of the org.gnome override in Ubuntu MATE are the same as the Global overrides in that paste. | 07:40 |
| flexiondotorg | So I assume I leave those as Global in my overrides too? | 07:40 |
| didrocks | sure, if they are the same, just keep them | 07:41 |
| didrocks | or install ubuntu-settings | 07:41 |
| didrocks | as you will be able to safely do it now :) | 07:41 |
| didrocks | (less maintenance, sensible distro-wide defaults) | 07:41 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 07:48 |
| duflu | Morning davmor2 | 07:49 |
| oSoMoN | hey davmor2 | 07:52 |
| flexiondotorg | davmor2 o/ | 07:52 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks A question. | 07:53 |
| flexiondotorg | MATE Tweak is a utility that tweaks things. | 07:53 |
| didrocks | (good naming! ;)) | 07:53 |
| flexiondotorg | In some cases I will tweak metacity settings | 07:53 |
| flexiondotorg | Should that also only tweak settings in the :MATE context? | 07:54 |
| didrocks | no, this isn't working like this | 07:54 |
| didrocks | you only define "defaults" in the overrides | 07:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Or is that effectively a user applied setting? | 07:54 |
| didrocks | default for your desktop | 07:54 |
| didrocks | then | 07:54 |
| didrocks | user applied settings are user decision | 07:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Excellent. | 07:54 |
| didrocks | which will impact all desktops for that particular setting | 07:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Thanks. | 07:54 |
| didrocks | I guess that's what make more sense | 07:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep. | 07:55 |
| didrocks | yw! and it's the easiest to deal with ;) | 07:55 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-settings/commit/05cb494dc5ba17abb95d0b23ed223558ff29e372 | 07:58 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks Can you ping me when new libglib is promoted please and I'll upload the new ubuntu-mate-settings. | 08:00 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, you can upload and make it depends on the new glib or blocked in proposed as well if you want | 08:07 |
| flexiondotorg | That is a good idea seb128 :-) | 08:08 |
| willcooke | happy Friday all | 08:08 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, happy friday | 08:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hum, I tried added the gnome-software .desktop to /usr/share/ubuntu-wayland | 08:12 |
| seb128 | #fail | 08:12 |
| seb128 | duflu, indeed, the abi-compliance-checker update works, see the most recent pulseaudio entry on https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/cinnamon-desktop/artful/amd64 | 08:13 |
| seb128 | duflu, I retried it with proposed on other arches as well now | 08:13 |
| duflu | seb128, cool. Although I might have a pulseaudio SRU ready for xenial before artful is done :) | 08:14 |
| seb128 | shouldn't make a difference on what happens to the artful update | 08:14 |
| seb128 | hopefully it migrates today though | 08:14 |
| seb128 | duflu, you looked at some of the themes issues, do you know if it's know that some dialog don't have "borders", like in firefox the "clear recenty history" one (ctrl-shit-del) | 08:20 |
| duflu | seb128, If it's a native Wayland app then that's expected. Otherwise, yes I think I have seen that bug reported but not sure where | 08:21 |
| seb128 | is that a shell or theme issue or not a bug and just me getting confused by normal things? | 08:22 |
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| seb128 | hum, it looks like the gnome-keyring ssh agent doesn't work for me in artful | 09:00 |
| seb128 | does it work for others? | 09:00 |
| willcooke | seb128, how do I test? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ssh to a canonical box for example | 09:03 |
| seb128 | well if you are not using ssh-agent | 09:03 |
| seb128 | look at what your SSH_AUTH_SOCK env is pointing to | 09:03 |
| willcooke | Dont think I am, I'm using a config file in my .ssh | 09:03 |
| willcooke | lemme set it up | 09:03 |
| seb128 | don't | 09:04 |
| seb128 | I'm tested basic install | 09:04 |
| seb128 | I guess ssh-agent is working, I just mentioned it in case you installed it (systemd tend to do that) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | ssh-agent works probably but I'm interested in the default GNOME one | 09:04 |
| seb128 | so if you didn't configure anything then it's good :-) | 09:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw bug #1710100 | 09:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1710100 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "XDG_DATA_DIR doesn't include /usr/share/$DESKTOP_SESSION under wayland" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1710100 | 09:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: known, and on my todo :) | 09:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, was it reported? I didn't find it | 09:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: no report, on my own todo :) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | k | 09:14 |
| didrocks | but yeah, I tried thinking about various approaches to avoid including this | 09:14 |
| seb128 | well know it's on the public list, be careful, people might watch you :p | 09:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: I wonder if it's not better to add DESKTOP instead of SESSION | 09:15 |
| didrocks | like take the list, and add them one after another | 09:15 |
| didrocks | or, just transitionning to a different name | 09:15 |
| didrocks | with OnlyShowIn | 09:16 |
| didrocks | which might be better IMHO | 09:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I created https://trello.com/c/Xxauefnc/241-review-xsessiond-script-to-see-if-we-miss-anything-under-wayland | 09:16 |
| didrocks | like org.gnome.SoftwareUbuntu.desktop | 09:16 |
| didrocks | yeah, better to look for the other scripts :) | 09:16 |
| seb128 | sorry | 09:16 |
| seb128 | https://trello.com/c/Xxauefnc/241-review-xsessiond-scripts-to-see-if-we-miss-anything-under-wayland | 09:16 |
| didrocks | so useful | 09:16 |
| seb128 | (changed the title to fix a typo) | 09:17 |
| didrocks | yeah, that's good | 09:17 |
| didrocks | so I'm really in favor of removing this XDG_DATA_DIR change | 09:17 |
| didrocks | on a second thought | 09:17 |
| seb128 | why? | 09:17 |
| didrocks | and we just go with different destkop name | 09:17 |
| didrocks | well, it's only for one desktop file nowdays | 09:17 |
| seb128 | it's somewhat similar to https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3398 | 09:17 |
| seb128 | we can probably do those if https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/environment.d.html | 09:18 |
| didrocks | it was for a lot of things in the UNE days | 09:18 |
| didrocks | this is with systemd --user, correct? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:18 |
| didrocks | unsure how it's going to work if other variables will be accessible | 09:18 |
| seb128 | which L_aney is going to bring back to us, right? ;-) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | because it's gnome-session setting it IIRC | 09:18 |
| didrocks | we'll see | 09:19 |
| seb128 | anyway we can probably do the gnome-software one differently | 09:19 |
| didrocks | yeah | 09:19 |
| didrocks | as it's the only one | 09:19 |
| seb128 | but we are likely going to hit that issue anyway | 09:19 |
| seb128 | e.g that snapd bug | 09:19 |
| seb128 | flatpak is having the same problem | 09:19 |
| didrocks | they can add it themselves | 09:19 |
| didrocks | won't be the same patch anyway | 09:19 |
| didrocks | as we would based on DESKTOP name | 09:19 |
| didrocks | they won't | 09:19 |
| seb128 | right | 09:20 |
| seb128 | but I mean updating envs on login | 09:20 |
| didrocks | yeah, that will be needed | 09:20 |
| seb128 | things we used to do in Xsession.d | 09:20 |
| didrocks | unsure we should do it for that particular case though | 09:20 |
| seb128 | anyway, we have the trello card | 09:20 |
| didrocks | yep | 09:20 |
| seb128 | and you have the gnome-software one on your todo | 09:20 |
| seb128 | so we should be good :-) | 09:20 |
| didrocks | indeed :p | 09:20 |
| didrocks | just will do that post-FF | 09:20 |
| didrocks | after all the current things are implemented ;) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | right | 09:21 |
| seb128 | bah, I really hate the hotcorner, I disabled mouseover to open it but I still trigger it by error | 09:21 |
| duflu | seb128, gnome-keyring-daemon you say? Yeah it seems to cause bug 1707828 for me | 09:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1707828 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal appears to do nothing, then the terminal window opens 25 seconds later" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707828 | 09:21 |
| seb128 | I tend to select text up to top of a gedit view by clicking at the bottom and doing a dnd far top-left, until the screen corner | 09:22 |
| seb128 | and release button | 09:22 |
| seb128 | that opens the overview now :-/ | 09:22 |
| didrocks | well, it's disabled here :p | 09:24 |
| didrocks | and will be in a distro near you next Friday ;) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:25 |
| seb128 | disabled completely? | 09:25 |
| seb128 | no way to open the overview with a mouse then? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | I though we were disabling the proximity, not the clicking | 09:26 |
| didrocks | you were talking about the hotcorner | 09:27 |
| didrocks | that's the part which is disabled | 09:27 |
| didrocks | not the click of course | 09:27 |
| seb128 | well what I described "clicks" | 09:27 |
| seb128 | the mouse release is taken as a click | 09:27 |
| seb128 | or it's a bug in the extension I'm using to disable the hot corner | 09:28 |
| didrocks | oh | 09:30 |
| didrocks | could be a bug in your extension | 09:31 |
| didrocks | I don't reproduce it | 09:31 |
| seb128 | good | 09:33 |
| willcooke_ | Sitting in the garden with my new laptop! | 09:47 |
| willcooke_ | Screen is holding up well compared to the x220 | 09:48 |
| flexiondotorg | willcooke_ What did you get? | 09:48 |
| willcooke_ | flexiondotorg, x270. Really like it, but the spacebar is annoying | 09:48 |
| willcooke_ | it doesnt register unless you really twat it | 09:48 |
| willcooke_ | Otherwise the keyboard is lovely | 09:48 |
| willcooke_ | the touchpad is really nice too | 09:49 |
| ahayzen | duflu, FWIW bug 1707828 sounds really similar to bug 1644323 - if you see comments #1 and #2 they also mention gnome-keyring | 09:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1707828 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal appears to do nothing, then the terminal window opens 25 seconds later" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707828 | 09:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1644323 in Canonical System Image "Installing unity8-session-snap adversely effects unity7" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1644323 | 09:53 |
| duflu | ahayzen, yeah side effects... | 09:53 |
| duflu | ahayzen, but also other bugs I have dealt with... 25 seconds means dbus | 09:57 |
| ahayzen | right :-) | 09:57 |
| * duflu -> dinner, weekend | 10:03 | |
| * oSoMoN disappears for the week-end | 11:25 | |
| willcooke_ | have a good one oSoMoN | 11:25 |
| oSoMoN | thanks willcooke_, you too | 11:25 |
| phil9x | Looking to test 17.10 for bugs | 14:57 |
| sunweaver | some notes on my DebConf17 talk about Ubuntu Indicators -> Ayatana Indicators https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/60 | 15:31 |
| sunweaver | xnox: please review... | 15:31 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, your wayland socket detection works fine for me on artful (both wayland and non-wayland sessions) | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, are you on 16.04? | 15:48 |
| * kenvandine thinks you already said you are :) | 15:48 | |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: I am on artful. I tested on xenial in a vm | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | interesting | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, i don't have a socket in that dir | 15:50 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: you need to use my https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/+git/gnome-logs-udt.jdstrand.bin | 15:50 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: you don't have /run/user/1000/wayland-0? | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, no | 15:51 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: then you aren't running under wayland. I needed to install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and an additional gnome-wayland package (I forget the exact name otoh) | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, i tested it with quadrapassel and gnome-sudoku from the store | 15:51 |
| jdstrand | apt-cache wayland|grep gnome | 15:51 |
| jdstrand | that would find it ^ | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, no... i did have that socket under wayland :) | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | i'm saying the snaps worked in both wayland and non-wayland sessions | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | i did have the socket under wayland | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | and i don't under x11 | 15:52 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: the problem with my shell script is when you run gdm3, it runs under wayland. therefore the socket is always there. when you start the gnome-shell/X under the gdm3 wayland, my detection logic adds those env vars, which forces those apps to use wayland, but mutter isn't running | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, so you detection mechanism seems good to me | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, but gdm3 isn't running under my user | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | so the socket isn't in /run/user/1000/wayland-0 | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | gdm 2594 0.0 0.0 190428 4136 tty1 Ssl+ 09:31 0:00 /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session gnome-session --autostart /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart | 15:54 |
| jdstrand | I definitely saw it. I then don't know why it was there. if you are satisfied (as a desktop expert, which I am not), feel free to commit it. any bugs can be fixed later | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, yeah i have /run/user/121/wayland-0 | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | uid 121 is the gdm user | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | gdm can't create the socket under your user, so should be safe | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | i wonder if maybe what you saw was a socket left around from some crash or something? | 15:57 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: idk | 15:58 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: I logged out of wayland session, then logged back into X. the socket was still there | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, mind trying again? | 15:58 |
| jbicha | btw, this just landed in gdm, maybe it will fix some of our problems with logging out and logging in to a different session | 16:01 |
| jbicha | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=9bd3c5f04 | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, oh... maybe that's the bug you hit | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | apparently you could have the user session left running after logout | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | great... | 16:02 |
| Laney | that is definitely a bug we have atm | 16:03 |
| Laney | not sure that commit in particular will fix it, seems specific to classic mode | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | i'd guess if the user session is still around, maybe the socket might be there too | 16:03 |
| Laney | somehow you get a random invalid dbus session | 16:03 |
| Laney | I didn't look into it yet | 16:03 |
| Laney | but I will definitely do so soon | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | oh, yeah this might not actually fix the root of the problem | 16:04 |
| jdstrand | that may be the bug. not sure how that commit makes the wayland socket go away... | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | just fix a symptom | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah, after looking further it doesn't really fix it | 16:04 |
| Laney | the user session stuff I demoed at guadec doesn't exhibit this bug btw | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | but sounds like that could be a case that might keep the socket | 16:04 |
| Laney | but not really ready to push that | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | Laney, yay | 16:04 |
| willcooke_ | night all | 17:14 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| kenvandine | woot... my simple-scan classic snaps works just as well as the deb install for me :) | 18:38 |
| kenvandine | which happens to fail | 18:38 |
| jbicha | ship it! ;) | 18:38 |
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