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[00:17] <ahasenack> nacc: ok, this is where I am now: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25286917/
[00:19] <ahasenack> 3f6c0c2 is what was left over from the combination of the add and incomplete remove. I squashed both into that one and changed the commit message in the logical
[00:19] <ahasenack> and right now it's a "remaining change"
[00:49] <hehehe> hi
[01:07] <ahasenack> hehehe: hi
[01:17] <hehehe> ahasenack:  I am moving keepass db between two pc i- it says invalid signature
[01:17] <hehehe> like wtf
[01:17] <hehehe> how do I fix it
[01:18] <ahasenack> don't know what keepass is
[01:18] <hehehe> I tried both csv import
[01:18] <hehehe> its a very popular soft to store passwords
[01:18] <ahasenack> have you checked that the clock is correct on both machines?
[01:18] <hehehe> well no
[01:18] <hehehe> how its related?
[01:18] <hehehe> they do show same time
[01:20] <ahasenack> sometimes that's the culprit when cryptographic operations fail misteriously
[01:21] <hehehe> hehe
[01:21] <hehehe> I see
[01:22] <hehehe> so much hassle just to move pc
[01:23] <hehehe> some linux programs dont think things from user view
[01:25] <hehehe> also ahasenack  have you notices less and less people speak on freenode
[01:25] <hehehe> its kinda like ....
[01:25] <ahasenack> it's all about timezones
[01:26] <ahasenack> for example, it's 22:25 here now, and I'm usually in bed already by that time
[01:26] <ahasenack> because I get up at 05:40
[01:28] <hehehe> yes but usa folks
[01:28] <hehehe> hmm
[01:28] <ahasenack> west coast is about to have dinner I suppose
[01:28] <ahasenack> or happy hour at least
[01:29] <hehehe> well some channel are barely active at all
[01:29] <hehehe> at any time
[01:29] <hehehe> such as mongodb and some more
[01:29] <hehehe> I have been using freenode for last 2,3 years and activity across all main coding channels droped a lot
[01:29] <hehehe> dropped
[05:22] <karstensrage> i cant boot 12.04, it says kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[05:23] <karstensrage> is there something i do in grub to remove some files that accidentally got in /lib
[05:25] <hateball> karstensrage: liveboot the system and fix it if you need
[05:25] <hateball> 12.04 is EOL also
[05:25] <karstensrage> how do you liveboot the system
[05:33] <cpaelzer> good morning
[05:36] <hateball> karstensrage: is this a VM, physical, what?
[05:36] <karstensrage> VM
[05:36] <hateball> karstensrage: just put in an ubuntu desktop CD and start from that, mount the installed partitions and clean whatever you need to
[05:36] <hateball> chroot if needed
[05:36] <karstensrage> OK
[06:18] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:18] <cpaelzer> hi lordievader
[06:19] <lordievader> Hey cpaelzer, how are you doing?
[06:22] <cpaelzer> good actually
[06:22] <cpaelzer> I haven't checked my nightly tests yet :-)
[06:22] <cpaelzer> I hope the week is closing out fine for you as well
[07:07] <lordievader> It has been doing quite all right :)
[07:11] <lordievader> Set up a Windows vm yesterday to which I can plugin a drawing tablet via Spice. Quite fancy, imo.
[08:03] <PCatinean> hey guys, I use duplicity in a docker container and after recreating the container and make backups I cannot restore anymore
[08:03] <PCatinean> I always get: https://hastebin.com/cotepiyiha.sql
[08:03] <PCatinean> does anyone have a clue why this happens?
[08:27] <lordievader> Different versions of the tool?
[13:06] <ahasenack> rbasak: hi, do you know that whis means:
[13:06] <ahasenack> (bind9-merge-1701687)andreas@nsn7:~/git/packages/bind9$ git ubuntu lint
[13:06] <ahasenack> 08/11/2017 10:05:48 - ERROR:Unable to automatically determine importer branch: No candidate branches found.
[13:41] <coreycb> beisner: good morning, python-cinderclient 1:1.6.0-2ubuntu1~cloud0 and python-openstackclient 2.3.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0 are ready to promote to mitaka-updates
[15:03] <rbasak> nacc: I'd like to sync with you on the progress of git ubuntu build please
[15:13] <nacc> rbasak: ack
[15:14] <nacc> rbasak: after standup?
[15:14] <rbasak> yes please
[15:17] <nacc> rbasak: ok
[15:17] <nacc> ahasenack: is that branch pushed?
[15:22] <ahasenack> nacc: it was bind9, but since then I pushed --force over it
[15:22] <nacc> ahasenack: i mean, is the branch which is uanble to find a candidate branch available somewhere else?
[15:22] <ahasenack> that's the one
[15:23] <nacc> ahasenack: 'the one'? your branch ref above is a local branch
[15:23] <ahasenack> after my push (for unrelated reason) I don't think it happens again
[15:23] <nacc> ah ok
[15:23] <ahasenack> https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+git/bind9/+ref/bind9-merge-1701687
[15:23] <ahasenack> don't know if it happens anymore
[15:41] <PCatinean> lordievader, could be possible?
[15:41] <PCatinean> How can I check?
[15:41] <PCatinean> btw older backups with the same tool work
[15:44] <rbasak> cpaelzer: "Depend on gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1 for appindicator support" - I wonder if this still applies with the switch to GNOME? I don't know the answer - just asking.
[15:45] <cpaelzer> rbasak:  I kept what I wan't able to ensure being droppable
[15:46] <cpaelzer> rbasak: but yeah it could be optional now with unity being gone
[15:46] <cpaelzer> but I considerd such deep dives more appropriate when it is not so late before FF
[15:46] <cpaelzer> and since it wasn't anything that seems to cause issues - nor the last bit that prevented it to beocme a sync I left it
[15:47] <cpaelzer> rbasak: the problem on verifying that is that the old description is rather unclear what part of the appindicator support was the reason
[15:47] <cpaelzer> rbasak: didn't it woak at all, was there a detail being not perfect?
[15:48] <cpaelzer> rbasak: that un-verifiability is the reason I left it for now
[15:59] <rbasak> cpaelzer: +1
[16:01] <rbasak> nacc: https://code.launchpad.net/~racb/usd-importer/+git/usd-importer/+ref/lp1698402
[17:38] <ahasenack> what's the name of that console tool again that shows bandwith usage by each connection
[17:38] <ahasenack> not iptraf
[17:38] <ahasenack> not nethogs
[17:38] <ahasenack> there's another one
[17:39] <ahasenack> iftop
[17:39] <ahasenack> that's the one
[18:02] <mason> iftop is lovely
[18:02] <mason> iftop can also filter things, filtering only a particular system, everything *but* a system, etc., so you can limit observer effect.
[18:03] <jge> hey drab you around?
[18:04] <dpb1> ahasenack: what was the one we used for the demos
[18:04] <ahasenack> dpb1: about what?
[18:05] <dpb1> network monitoring with the graphs
[18:06] <ScottE> You can do some neat stuff with BPF these days too - https://github.com/iovisor/bcc is a collection which includes a number of network tracing and histogram tools
[18:06] <ahasenack> I don't remember
[18:07] <drab> jge: what's up?
[18:07] <jge> nvm drab found the convo we had last time
[18:07] <dpb1> ah yes
[18:07] <dpb1> bmon
[18:07] <dpb1> ScottE: the 'b' in bpf reminded me
[18:08] <ScottE> :-)
[18:09] <drab> dpb1: if you mean in console, there's also nload
[18:09] <drab> which makes nice ascii graphs, my fav for that kind of thing
[18:10] <dpb1> ah cool
[20:43] <dpb1> nacc: I shouldn't need to do anything to keep up with the git-ubuntu snap, right?  it should just always be up to date
[20:43] <dpb1> ?
[20:45] <braziercustoms> How far do I need to go when starting over from failed conjure-up attempts? Is just destroying the controller enough?
[20:46] <dpb1> braziercustoms: I think just removing the model it created is enough, stokachu amirite?
[20:46] <stokachu> braziercustoms: where did it fail
[20:46] <stokachu> braziercustoms: does `juju controllers` list your controller?
[20:47] <stokachu> dpb1: yes re: git-ubuntu snap
[20:47] <braziercustoms> I keep getting a failure getting charms during glance install
[20:48] <dpb1> stokachu: thx
[20:48] <stokachu> braziercustoms: head back over to #juju im in there
[20:53] <nacc> dpb1: with master, yes
[20:54] <dpb1> nacc: thx
[21:10] <ahasenack> dpb1: yes, the snap will be kept up-to-date
[21:10] <ahasenack> r115 currently
[21:38] <troy1> do any of you use ubuntu server as router/firewall. any recommendations in applications that make it easier to manage?
[21:40] <sdeziel> troy1: I use iptables-persistent
[21:41] <dpb1> oh wow
[21:41] <dpb1> til
[21:41] <sdeziel> not sure if that qualifies as easy to manage but you get your ip{,6}tables ruleset load at boot without fluff :)
[21:41] <troy1> yea was wondering because I have used pfsense quite a bit and they do it pretty well
[21:42] <sdeziel> if you are coming from pf you might find iptables a tad different
[21:42] <sdeziel> I don't know much about pfsense but I think you drive pf through a WebUI isn't it?
[21:42] <drab> troy1: might wanna take a look at "firehol"
[21:43] <drab> ime it's the closeset thing
[21:43] <drab> oh, pfsense, not just pf
[21:43] <drab> pfsense != pf , if you're looking for something mroe familiar to pf than iptables then look at firehol
[21:43] <drab> if you want something similar to pfsense in linux land, then look at ipcop
[21:44] <sdeziel> isn't IPcop long abandonned?
[21:44] <drab> altho ime nothing really matches pfsense
[21:45] <drab> sdeziel: yeah, well, that's as good as it gets if you don't want to get stuck with paid-upgrades
[21:46] <drab> if community version + paid upgrades is of interest then probably the winner is clearos
[21:46] <drab> and then smoothwall
[21:46] <sdeziel> ipfire looks ~nice and seems to be maintained
[21:47] <sdeziel> never tried it myself though
[21:47] <sdeziel> I'm too attached to iptables-save format to move to a WebUI
[21:47] <drab> lol, same here
[21:48] <drab> I looked through about a dozen of them and then just stuck with plain nix + firehol
[21:49] <drab> i guess the most widespread one is dd-wrt actually, since most ppl have a modem/router and put that on it
[21:49] <drab> but it won't go on your pc so maybe not an option
[21:51] <troy1> Ill look into firehol then.
[21:53] <troy1> This is just a home project anyways. Wanted a router/firewall and server
[21:56] <sdeziel> troy1: for a linux distro with a WebUI to configure the firewall, you may try OpenWRT
[21:56] <drab> https://xkcd.com/1875/ too good to not share :D
[22:22] <sarnold> troy1: I have friends who swear by ferm
[22:31] <drab> I have friends who swear "ferm" - it's a 4 letters word after all :P
[22:32] <sarnold> hehe
[22:49] <troy1> drab: was looking through the firehol documentation seems to be well put together.
[22:50] <drab> troy1: docs are good, community is good albeit small, but the main devs always got back to me in a day at the latest and they really know what they are talking about ime
[22:50] <drab> plus I was looking to balance a few lines and firehol comes with link-balancer which did the job really well
[22:50] <dpb1> funny, ferm is a popular brand of power tools, also makes routers, I have one!
[22:51] <drab> need to customize the script now so that instead of just detecting line downs actually measures latency
[22:51] <sarnold> dpb1: haha