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inetpro_goeiemore06:40
LangjanGood day all08:33
Kilosguten morgen08:37
LangjanHow is my friend Kilos keeping?08:38
Kilosnot too bad ty Langjan and you?08:38
LangjanFine thanks Kilos - whats ailing you? 08:39
Kiloswhy?08:40
Kilosour hospitals are ailing me08:40
LangjanWell, not too bad must mean mildly bad?08:40
Kilosthe ausie docs wanted to bypass last year already08:40
Kiloshere i just get more meds to keep me alive haha08:41
LangjanPerhaps hoping they will kill you and leave one less white man...08:41
Kiloshahaha08:58
Kilosone of the pills is for making attacks non fatal08:59
LangjanWho is the Libre Office expert among us? 09:10
Kiloslol09:42
Kilossuperfly09:42
Kilosthere must be more but fly helped me when i sukkeled09:42
LangjanThks Kilos I somehow managed to sort the problem out meanwhile09:48
Kilosslim jan09:48
Langjansukkel-tot-ek-regkom Jan09:49
Kiloslol09:54
Kilosmooi so oom dit werk ook09:54
LangjanJa partykeer. Ander kere is ek bly vir 'n slim vriend soos Kilos 09:55
Kilosai! nee man ek ken slimmes10:00
LangjanJy is te beskeie my vriend. Jy is wat jy is, wees dankbaar daarvoor en leef daarvolgens! 10:02
inetpro_Kilos: Jy is wat jy is... :-)12:02
inetpro_ai!12:02
inetpro_goeiedag ooms Langjan en Kilos12:02
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Kiloslol12:09
LangjanDitsem inetpro, mooi loop. 12:28
pavlushkaahoy ZA13:56
LangjanAhoy pavlushka 14:42
pavlushkaHello Langjan :)14:43
paddatrapperMorning everyone14:46
LangjanHello paddatrapper, on which side of the world are you located? Morning from NZ/Oz 12 Aug or from Americas 11 Aug?  14:48
paddatrapperLangjan: Canada, so morning of 11 Aug14:50
* paddatrapper is dreading the long flight home tomorrow...14:51
LangjanTravel safe paddatrapper 15:28
paddatrapperLangjan: thanks 15:29
LangjanCanadian summer! Work, family or holiday? 15:31
pavlushkaMorning paddatrapper 15:44
paddatrapperDebconf so somewhat work and some holiday15:44
pavlushkapaddatrapper: its good to be home isn't it?15:45
LangjanWell Spring is in the air in the sunny North of SA 15:46
paddatrapperpavlushka: I'm not home yet, but when I eventually do get there on Monday - yes it will be15:46
paddatrapperCape Town is raining cats and dogs as far as I can tell (or was earlier)15:46
pavlushkapaddatrapper: ah, I meant that :p15:46
LangjanWell they need much rain to survive the summer...hope it keeps coming15:47
paddatrapperthis is very true...15:47
LangjanLook what I stumbled upon: https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/ubuntu-mate-16-04-redefines-linux-desktops/17:21
LangjanBeen using it in my lappie and installed it for a friend, very impressed!17:22
LangjanIs my slim vriend nog wakker? Kilos  18:03
Kilosjust came to say night all. sleep tight19:17
captineevening all19:30
squish102Anyone know software that could manage a debian install. push patches or make small configuration changes?20:18
squish102like change a desktop icon to point to a different url20:19
squish102i have 8000 machines to manage with the software20:19
squish102not looking at puppet enterprise because they want $120/year per machine20:20
squish102doesn't make sense to spend R12 mil a year to manage the machines20:21
paddatrappersquish102: ansible?20:33
paddatrapperpuppet does have a non-enterprise edition, but I don't know what it entails as I have never used it20:33
superflyo/20:34
paddatrapperhi superfly 20:34
superflyhow's DebConf going, paddatrapper?20:35
paddatrappersuperfly: great fun! Lots of interesting talks20:35
paddatrapperFly out tomorrow...20:35
superflySo sad I couldn't make it :-(20:36
paddatrapperyeah... I won't be able to make next year and I'm already sad about it20:37
squish102paddatrapper: i will look at ansible thx. not sure if anyone here has experience with either ansible or puppet that could tell me how difficult or easy it is20:53
paddatrappersquish102: I've used ansible quite extensively. It's based on yaml files and ssh. You define roles and then assign hosts or groups to those roles 20:56
squish102paddatrapper: i will have raspberry pi's that have an rdp client and chromium brower installed23:06
squish102all i need to do is patch management and some updates once a year to them.23:06
squish102ansible a good enough solution?23:06
squish102and the free version work with 8000 pi's all the same23:07
paddatrappersquish102: yeah sounds fine for that. Ansible is open source and has no limits. The only thing you can buy from Red Hat is the use of their cloud setup to manage everything from the Web 23:08
squish102ok thanks, i will look into ansible23:08
paddatrappersquish102: how about unattended-upgrades for the updates? Runs once a week or so and installs updates. Configurable around which updates and warnings, news, etc 23:09
squish102have zero people to support it once it is rolled out, so i hope it does not take lots of care and feeding23:09
squish102have to stagger updates because they all remote stores and the network would just break if they all tried to get updates at same time23:10
paddatrapperIt randomises when (and that's configurable IIRC) 23:10
paddatrapperYou can run ansible from your laptop, so as long as you have ssh access to the machines, you're good23:11
squish102so paddatrapper, replacing a desktop icon with a new one, or changing a firewall rule, or stopping an unnecessary service on debian23:14
squish102would it have any problem doing that kind of thing?23:14
paddatrappersquish102: copy, iptables, service are the three task names needed there 23:21
paddatrapperIf you want a reference my configs live in: https://gitlab.com/paddatrapper 23:21
paddatrapperhttps://gitlab.com/paddatrapper/ansible 23:22
squish102Thanks paddatrapper , will check it out23:24

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