[01:04] <plaindave> I'm using Lubuntu, and I can't figure out how to turn off my laptop's touchpad. Any ideas would be appreciated. I've tried just about everything.
[01:25] <hehehe> hi
[01:25] <hehehe> keepass is mad
[01:26] <hehehe> I copied kdbx file and it says invalid signature
[01:26] <hehehe> what does it want?
[01:29] <dckx> hi, can I reinstall Ubuntu within Ubuntu to roll back my computer to how it was right after I installed Ubuntu? Basically the same that could be done with the livecd, but without it
[01:31] <rypervenche> dckx: Not without a backup or without a live environment that isn't using the disk that you are installing to.
[01:32] <dckx> rypervenche: I see. I am creating a livecd now, but my main concern is not being able to reinstall everything in the same partition, and mess something up. As in reinstalling the Swap where the Swap is now, and home where home is now, etc. I mean, I have only installed ubuntu on blank partitions before, and have partitioned during the installation process
[01:33] <dckx> if that makes sense
[01:35] <rypervenche> dckx: You just need to make sure that you map everything to the correct partitinos upon reinstallation. if you like, we can help you along the way.
[01:35] <rypervenche> You just need to give us the output of: "df -hT" and "sudo blkid" on your current machine, and then you can connect to IRC on the liveCD and we can help you make sure you get everything right.
[01:36] <donofrio_> nacc, the rebuild of 17.04 does the "video tearing" even with no updates at all - fresh install....
[01:37] <dckx> rypervenche: ok, great, thanks. I'm windows now downloading ubuntu again. I'll create the livecd, boot back into ubuntu, run those commands, and then boot from the livecd and connect to irc. I will have to use a webclient, right? Right now I'm using quassel
[01:40] <grym> i'm running 16.04 on an nvidia tx-1 (aarch64).  I want to run a 32-bit binary on it --  Is there an  ARM version of `ia32-libs`?
[01:40] <grym> (right now bash flatly refuses to execute the file)
[01:47] <Jordan_U> grym: What binary?
[01:48] <grym> Jordan_U: a native client for some tensorflow model.  I'm running a Nvidia TX1, which is an arm v8 board with full CUDA support
[01:55] <Jordan_U> grym: I feel like that should be an easy question to answer, but I'm having a hard time finding the answer. If nothing else, I expect you could create a 32 bit chroot environment and run your programs there.
[01:55] <grym> Jordan_U: so on x86_64, you can apt-get ia32-libs.  I don't know what the name, if any, of `aarch32-libs` is
[01:56] <grym> the TX1 is aarch64
[01:56] <grym> nvidia's support is less than useful so far
[01:56] <mobu_> I have a (hopefully) quick question if you guys don't mind...
[01:57] <mobu_> This is probably kind of an unorthodox scenario
[01:59] <Jordan_U> grym: Can you just install the needed libraries like "sudo apt install foo:aarch32"?
[02:00] <grym> Jordan_U: yes, if i knew what they were named
[02:00] <grym> but i have no idea
[02:00] <grym> so i was hoping the channel might
[02:01] <mobu_> I built a new pc recently and the first thing I installed is Ubuntu 17 (with a 20gb partition on a 64gb SSD, storage held on a 1TB hard drive) and that went fine. Then I installed Windows 10 on a partition (on that same 64gb ssd) I preconfigured as ntfs for Windows to boot off of and installed it there. Now the Windows bootloader is taking priority and I can't boot into my Linux partition. What should I do? Since I installed Windows
[02:01] <mobu_> after Ubuntu, is it possible that the Grub bootloader won't list Windows once I get it to take priority, and if so, how to I remedy that?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> grym: To be clear, I mean "sudo apt install packagename:architecture". So if I wanted to install GNU hello (hello world example) for i386 I would run "sudo apt install hello:i386" which will install a 32 bit hello with all of its dependencies. So if I know that the program needs libc6, I would "sudo apt install libc6:aarch32" (though aarch32 may not be the proper name apt expects, and you may also need
[02:04] <Jordan_U> to manually add the architecture before apt can install from it).
[02:06] <grym> Jordan_U: ah, i see where we're missing each other. The binary i'm trying to run is not, and does not plan to be, apt- installable. (it's on some random mozilla gitub page).  In order to run it, i believe i need the ability to run aarch32 on aarch64, and that abaility may be provided by an apt-able package.
[02:07] <Jordan_U> mobu_: Your boot firmware should still have an option to boot Ubuntu. Find it, then run "sudo grub-install" to make Ubuntu first in the priority again and "sudo update-grub" to add an entry for Windows to the grub menu.
[02:07] <mobu_> Okay I'll go try that in an hour and report back.
[02:08] <mobu_> I might've just not recognized the partition names.
[02:09] <Jordan_U> grym: No, I understand that. As a quick test, which will likely fail as for bits of this I'm guessing, try running "sudo apt install hello:aarch32" and see what happens. If it installs an aarch32 hello, then you'll have an aarch32 hello and at least the bare minimum aarch32 libs. From there, it's a matter of finding out what other libraries your binary needs and installing those with apt (appending
[02:09] <Jordan_U> :aarch32) to the packagename.
[02:09] <grym> Jordan_U: ah, okay.  sure, i can give that a go.
[02:11] <mobu_> It's an Adata drive and I remember seeing two Adata listings on the boot priority list. I think I tried booting into the other listing and it sent me on a reboot loop. But maybe that was a fluke.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> mobu_: If not, we can fix this from a LiveUSB farily easily as well.
[02:17] <mobu-> wouldn't I need root access in my currently installed instance of Ubuntu to fix the problem? Can I do that on live media?
[02:18] <Jordan_U> grym: By the way, it looks like ia32-libs doesn't exist anymore even on amd64 systems, as it was a cludge that only existed until proper multiarch support was implemented.
[02:19] <grym> Jordan_U: hmm.  ok.  must have been reading a super old forum post, then.
[02:19] <grym> okay.  thanks.  i have enough to go on, so i'll futz around
[02:28] <Jordan_U> grym: I'm curious now. Did "sudo apt install hello:aarch32" work?
[02:28] <grym> Jordan_U: no, apt couldn't find a package that matches
[02:28] <grym> (hello:arm32 didn't work either )
[02:30] <grym> Jordan_U: best i've found so far is https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/897280/jetson-tx1/jetson-tx1-with-l4t-23-1-doesn-t-support-native-aarch64-binaries-/  but it's two years old and forums are opaque
[02:30] <grym> and it's kind of the inverse problem
[02:31] <Jordan_U> grym: What is the output of "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"?
[02:34] <Fretegi> evening everyone
[02:34] <Fretegi> can someone give me a hand with a scanner issue please
[02:34] <Fretegi> https://pastebin.com/gT9hK4wA
[02:34] <Fretegi> output of simple-scan -d
[02:36] <Jordan_U> grym: If it prints nothing then you may need to "sudo dpkg --add-architecture foo" as explained here: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO . What you should replace "foo" with I don't know. "armel" and "armhf" are valid architecure names, but I don't know if either is the arch you're looking for.
[02:37] <gp5st> is it possible to pull u2f keys from ldap using a Pam module?
[02:42] <dckx> hi, I just created a live USb to install Ubuntu 16.04.3. When I boot it, it stops and gives me the following error: [5.118062] ---[end kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). I have tried with two different usb drives. I created the liveUSBs using rufus and universal usb installer. I always get the same error, although creating the liveUSB with rufus and universal usb installer produced different
[02:42] <dckx> booting interfaces
[02:42] <dckx> UEFI is disabled on BIOS
[02:43] <dckx> the error message contains more information before that actual line, which is where the booting process stops. Before, it says 4.923112 Initramfs unpacking failed: LZMA data is corrupt
[02:43] <dckx> I just downloaded the ISO image though
[02:49] <Jordan_U> dckx: My guess would be a bad USB drive. Not that I think it's the cause of this problem, but why did you disable UEFI?
[02:50] <dckx> Jordan_U: Hi Jordan, thanks. I tried two different usb drives though, one 4gb (old but I used it to install ubuntu before), one 32gb, (new). Regarding the BIOS, I didn't disable UEFI, it has always been like that.
[02:52] <Jordan_U> dckx: For hardware that supports it, I recommend using UEFI. Often the CSM code paths are less well tested and leave the hardware in an inferior state (disabling features it doesn't think a "legacy" OS can handle for instance).
[02:54] <dckx> Jordan_U: I see. Would UEFI be compatible with having Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04.3? This laptop was bought in 2013, it is a sager with pretty standard components. Or should I check each hardware component to see if it supports UEFI? I'm not even clear on what UEFI exactly means
[02:55] <Jordan_U> dckx: Yes, just make sure that both OSs are installed for UEFI rather than BIOS (having one configured for BIOS boot and the other for UEFI is not manageable in any reasonable way).
[02:57] <dckx> Jordan_U: Ok, cool. I will actually reinstall both OSs tonight, so I will try to pay attention and make them both configured for UEFI. The thing is: if I change that setting now that the OSs are configured for BIOS boot (I assume they are) will I mess something up? Will I still be able to boot into Windows, for instance?
[02:58] <Jordan_U> dckx: Changing the setting after having installed the OS is a bad idea, so yes you should plan to change the setting just before re-installing both OSs.
[02:58] <Jordan_U> dckx: But, you still also probably have a corrupt initramfs image for some reason so lets test that. Do you know how to find the md5sum of a file?
[02:59] <dckx> Jordan_U: not really
[02:59] <dckx> Jordan_U: I was thinking about trying again with a new version of rufus, and reformatting the drive before (I saw that on askubuntu as a possible solution)
[03:00] <Jordan_U> !md5 | dckx
[03:01] <Dreaman> Jordan_U  1 or 2 hdd
[03:01] <Dreaman> change boot
[03:01] <Dreaman> hdd
[03:01] <Dreaman> bios
[03:03] <Jordan_U> dckx: First, use that guide to check the md5sum of your iso file to confirm that it downloaded correctly. If it does match then *also* check the md5sum of the file casper/initrd.lz on your USB drive, checking it against the md5sum found in md5sum.txt in your USB drive. If that md5sum doesn't match then you almost certainly have a bad USB drive and should throw it away. "reformating" the drive might mask
[03:03] <Jordan_U> the symptoms of the drive corrupting your data temporarily (or might not) but it won't fix your drive, and you don't want to keep a drive that corrupts data around.
[03:04] <Dreaman> i use 10 and ubuntu
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Dreaman: I don't understand your question.
[03:04] <Dreaman> install from usb and rufus
[03:04] <Dreaman> not for you
[03:06] <Dreaman> dckx  automatic format usb rufus
[03:06] <Dreaman> and create iso boot
[03:06] <dckx> Jordan_U: md5sum of the iso is good
[03:07] <dckx> Dreaman: thanks, I will do as jordan says first
[03:07] <Dreaman> ok
[03:08] <dckx> Jordan_U: md5 of initrd.lz also matches
[03:09] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25287788/  dckx my laptop ssd is 10 and 100 gb sata is ubuntu
[03:10] <dckx> Dreaman: thanks, I have been using rufus but it still produces a seemingly corrupted liveusb
[03:11] <Dreaman> 2 os install rufus and usb
[03:12] <Dreaman> usb stick broken
[03:12] <dckx> will try to create the liveusb yet again
[03:12] <dckx> brb
[03:13] <Jordan_U> dckx: Test casper/filesystem.squashfs as well, since it's large and thus likely that some part of it would get corrupted. It's possible that there is a problem with your USB port on the machine you're installing to.
[03:20] <plaindave> I'm using Lubuntu, and I can't figure out how to turn off my laptop's touchpad. Any ideas would be appreciated. I've tried just about everything.
[03:22] <Jordan_U> plaindave: Have you tried https://askubuntu.com/questions/819789/permanently-disable-touchpad-lubuntu-16-04 ?
[03:43] <pradeep245> Jabra Evolve 65 headset does not sound good in Ubuntu. When I am in a call, or listen to music, sounds like it uses Voice Changer
[03:43] <pradeep245> But works perfectly in Windows and Mac
[03:44] <pradeep245> any solutions?
[03:45] <pradeep245> The same was the case with Jabra Motion headset as well
[03:54] <Jordan_U> pradeep245: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282285 note the proposed workaround "default-sample-rate = 48000" in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf .
[04:01] <pradeep245> Jordan_U No luck. I get the same effect
[04:02] <Jordan_U> pradeep245: Interesting. Could you please pastebin your /etc/pulse/daemon.conf?
[04:04] <pradeep245> Jordan_U sorry, I did not remove the ; at the beginning of the line. Now that I've removed it and reloaded the daemon.conf, it works
[04:04] <Jordan_U> pradeep245: Great. Please file a new Ubuntu bug report so that hopefully a fix can be made that won't require manual changes by the user.
[04:05] <Jordan_U> pradeep245: ubuntu-bug pulseaudio
[04:05] <pradeep245> But once I did that, I do not get the Line-out anymore in the list of output sound devices
[04:06] <Jordan_U> pradeep245: Please include a link to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282285 and subscribe me, "jordanu", to the bug in launchpad.
[04:06] <pradeep245> okay
[04:07] <Jordan_U> pradeep245: #pulseaudio may be able to help with line-out going away due to this change. I assume there is a reason the line is commented out by default, and I expect that there is a change that can be made that will only apply to your headset and not affect other devices.
[04:15] <Fretegi> is there a more appropriate place to go for help with scanners not working with ubuntu?
[04:16] <pradeep245> Jordan_U: Thanks. Now filing the bug
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: You could try http://askubuntu.com .
[04:17] <Fretegi> any other rooms by chance.  been looking for help for 3 days
[04:19] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Have you treid the first answer here yet: https://askubuntu.com/questions/724366/xsane-fails-to-open-device-invalid-argument ?
[04:21] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, yup, in fact that was the most recent attempt at it and seemed to cause more issues than fixed.  possibly due to me just not being proficient with how apt-get works
[04:22] <Fretegi> at any rate, i followed that guide, and now it doesnt even see the scanner or recognize the printer in the network section of cups however i can manually add it by navigating to the IP of the printer in cups
[04:23] <Fretegi> simple-scan used to report seeing the scanner, now it just doesnt see it.  im sure i removed something i shouldnt have, but not sure how to see a change log of what was installed or removed and that ppa caused two broken packages which i think is what lead me to where i am now
[04:23] <Fretegi> so trying to research how to just reinstall all of xsane to see if that gets me back to where i was at elast
[04:27] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Well, that ppa has the latest development version so even with you doing nothing wrong it's not surprising that it would break things. ppa-purge is the way to go for getting back to where you were.
[04:27] <Jordan_U> !ppa-purge | Fretegi
[04:29] <Fretegi> thanks guys, trying now
[04:29] <Fretegi> dang it  still wont see my printer
[04:31] <Fretegi> you know.... my only real experience with ubuntu is linux mint 17.3. on taht install i just installed cups-backend-bjnp and the 'add printer' tool in settings just found it, installed it and was done, printer an scanner work perfect (still do)
[04:32] <Fretegi> this ubuntu 16.04 install initially it had the same behavior although simple-scan would scan it did see the scanner.  now the printer is not see at all.  i can manually add it in cups however, but simple-scan is blind to it entirely
[04:32] <Fretegi> and that last part somehow happened following that upgrade
[04:32] <Fretegi> still not fixed after purging the ppa
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Hopefully though the problems that were added when you used the ppa are now gone. Is that the case?
[04:33] <Fretegi> thats the thing, its not
[04:33] <Fretegi> i had to have removed something but not sure what and not sure how to see what was removed ha
[04:34] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:34] <Fretegi> another funny development, didnt think to check if the firewall was the issue initially certainly a possiblity
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Well, when you get back to your pre-git-ppa state, here is a ppa that contains stable releases of xsane (newer than included in Ubuntu) : https://launchpad.net/~rolfbensch/+archive/ubuntu/sane-release
[04:37] <Fretegi> so it seems that the log only starts with the purging of the ppa, nothing before it
[04:37] <Fretegi> otherwise i am back to that pre-state package wise although functionally not so
[04:39] <Fretegi> ok so turns out firewall was blocking stuff
[04:41] <Fretegi> ok so forgive my ignorance.. im coming from gentoo and the whole repo thing is a lot dif.. so when i add a ppa like this and apt-get update, do i need to uninstall the old packages, or is the best way to just do an apt-get upgrade or even apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:46] <Fretegi> only dif between the two commands is that dist-upgrade seems to be bringing in stuff that was held back, looks like kernel stuff actually
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: You need to add the ppa, "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or using the new apt command "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt full-upgrade".
[04:48] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, looks like that wants to upgrade my kernel
[04:50] <Fretegi> ok printer is back to how it was before, setup properly and printed just fine, so were back where we were..
[04:51] <Fretegi> ok and simple-scan is seeing it
[04:51] <Fretegi> and scans!
[04:51] <Fretegi> wahoo!
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Fretegi: Does that mean it was just the firewall then?
[04:57] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, very well may have been unfortunately.  sadly i didnt even think to look that way until after goofing around with ppa's
[04:58] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, but on the other hand, this printer/scanner is a little fussy and it is running better on print mode now than before.  silly things like ink level monitors and whatnot seem much better so there was benefit no doubt to the upgrade no matter what
[04:59] <Fretegi> Jordan_U, thank you for the help buddy i really appreciate it.  sorry if i came off a bit harsh initially
[04:59] <Fretegi> ubottu, thanks for your help as well
[05:01] <Sveta> Fretegi: :)
[05:01] <Fretegi> on a side note.. this is my first time using ubuntu as a machine i depend on, always been on gentoo linux.  are there any other goofy things that are common to need sorting out?  for instance other stuff that the firewall's rules may block out by default that i may want to address?
[05:09] <Fretegi> have a good night everyone
[05:43] <molgrum> why can't i set my monitor refresh rate to 144Hz when i could before? (1920x1080@144)
[05:43] <molgrum> it is hooked into my laptop right now
[06:05] <Kartagis> (how) can I use a dynamic IP as Hostname in .ssh/config?
[06:25] <vlt> Kartagis: Put the domain name there.
[06:26] <vlt> molgrum: What changed between before and now?
[06:26] <Kartagis> vlt: it's dynamic on LAN, so domain name doesn't apply
[06:29] <vlt> Kartagis: Put the current IP address in the hostname line of .ssh/config then.
[06:30] <Kartagis> vlt: I don't want to have to change it every time it changes
[06:32] <vlt> Kartagis: Find someone/something that does it for you.
[06:35] <hethkar> Downloading language packs can be skipped during ubuntu installation right ?
[06:39] <molgrum> vlt: i used arch before on a stationary with the screen on DVI Radeon. now i use a laptop with ubuntu and Intel graphics HDMI
[06:40] <molgrum> what could be the cause given that info?
[06:48] <TomyWork> molgrum i accidentally left my computer on and have your question in the scrollback, but for the others, maybe you should repeat your hour-old question :)
[06:48] <makara> hi. I have this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/716535/zsh-suggesting-what-packages-to-install
[06:48] <TomyWork> molgrum and the answer is probably "anything". Try reducing the variables a bit. try your monitor on the laptop on a different distro/os
[06:49] <TomyWork> i.e. try it on arch (or windows, if that is at all possible)
[06:49] <makara> but i'm using oh-my-zsh, which includes commmand-not-found as a plugin in ~/.oh-my-zsh/plugins/*
[06:49] <molgrum> windows -.-
[06:49] <makara> it all looks good, but its not working
[06:49] <molgrum> okay uhm, so you mean i should install something other than ubuntu on it for it to work?
[06:50] <TomyWork> molgrum or try it on your desktop with hdmi instead of dvi
[06:50] <molgrum> HDMI is lower frequency?
[06:50] <molgrum> or what?
[06:50] <TomyWork> molgrum dude
[06:50] <TomyWork> stop jumping to conclusions
[06:50] <glitsj16> Kartagis: You could get a hostname via a free service like https://www.noip.com/free and connect via e.g. ssh user@kartagis.noip.org (instead of via user@ip-address)
[06:51] <molgrum> i don't understand what you mean TomyWork
[06:51] <molgrum> just asked if HDMI is different in that respect
[06:51] <molgrum> than DVI
[06:51] <Kartagis> it's on LAN glitsj16
[06:51] <TomyWork> molgrum i do not know why your stuff doesnt work. i am just trying to help you reduce the amount of difference between a system where your stuff works and where it doesnt
[06:51] <molgrum> i appreciate that
[06:52] <molgrum> i'll check HDMI on arch
[06:52] <TomyWork> molgrum but now that you say it, hdmi 1.0 is indeed shitty. if you can, try an hdmi 2.0 cable
[06:52] <molgrum> and see if i still get 144Hz
[06:52] <molgrum> if i do - something is weird? :)
[06:52] <TomyWork> then you can probably blame ubuntu :()
[06:52] <TomyWork> :)
[06:53] <molgrum> just like i can with some more stuff... :/
[06:53] <molgrum> that doesn
[06:53] <molgrum> t work
[06:53] <molgrum> i'm getting arch in a week so i'll see if that works better
[06:53] <molgrum> thanks
[06:56] <glitsj16> Kartagis: https://askubuntu.com/questions/305229/whats-the-best-way-to-ssh-to-machines-on-the-local-network might offer inspiration in that case
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Is its domain name published on the network via avahi?
[06:58] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: I don't recall doing that. what should I read?
[07:00] <Dump_not> Hello, is thear any package manager like yaourt on Archlinux on Ubuntu?
[07:02] <glitsj16> Dump_not: no there is only apt/dpkg on Ubuntu.. and PPA's on launchpad.net
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: aptitude has an ncurses frontend if that's what you're looking for. I don't know how similar its UI is to yaourt other than that.
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Never mind, looks like I wasn't really understanding what yaourt was. Is there anything you're missing in particular from apt?
[07:06] <glitsj16> Dump_not: technically you can also build from source and use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall to create a .deb you can administer via the default Ubuntu package manager.. what exactly are you looking for?
[07:07] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: something to broadcast its name would be fine. is avahi the way to go?
[07:50] <PCatinean> hey guys, I use duplicity in a docker container and after recreating the container and make backups I cannot restore anymore
[07:50] <PCatinean> I always get: https://hastebin.com/cotepiyiha.sql
[07:51] <PCatinean> can any1 help?
[08:03] <YankDownUnder> PCatinean, Have you asked in the #ubuntu-server channel?
[08:03] <PCatinean> is that a better place to do so? sure will do
[08:12] <vlt> molgrum: My briefcase doesn't fly anymore on my commute to work. Any idea why?
[08:13] <vlt> molgrum: Before it was from München to Hamburg and I put it in an A380, now it's two blocks on the back of my bike. No idea how that could happen!
[08:18] <molgrum> wtf :)
[08:18] <molgrum> you guys are funny
[08:22] <tomeaton17> I am not getting the option to install alongside windows. What settings do I need to change in windows so that Ubuntu will automatically install alongside it?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> tomeaton17: Is Windows installed for booting via UEFI or via BIOS? Did you boot Ubuntu's installer via UEFI or via BIOS?
[08:24] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  which ubuntu version? and is it a desktop live cd, or a server installer?
[08:24] <tomeaton17> Windows is via uefi and I launched install via uefi. Version is 17.04 and its on a usb stick
[08:26] <Jordan_U> tomeaton17: Please run Boot Info Script from https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces. Windows should be detected, hopefully the boot info results will help us understand why it isn't.
[08:30] <tomeaton17> Jordan_U: its telling me that my mawk version is wrong
[08:31] <Jordan_U> tomeaton17: sudo apt install gawk
[08:32] <tomeaton17> pastebin.com/8BVxf0Kq
[08:33] <Dump_not> I just went to archlinux channel and ask "why on arch rvm can't install 2.1.2 version, but on ubuntu 16.04 it's install perfect", on person told me theat it unsupported version and theats and because i use old version of ubuntu. So first is 16.04 version of ubuntu old, and second on new version of ubuntu (17.04) posible install ruby 2.1.2 via rvm?
[08:35] <MonkeyDust> what's rvm? an installer like apt?
[08:35] <Dump_not> rvm - ruby version manager
[08:36] <Jordan_U> tomeaton17: Looks like Boot Info Script isn't getting most of its information that it should be because it's not handling the nvme device names properly. I wonder if os-prober is not detecting Windows for similar reasons.
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> !find rvm
[08:37] <tomeaton17> ok so how should I proceed? it may because its in raid mode but I cant remember if I changed it back
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> Dump_not  it's not there
[08:43] <tomeaton17> Jordan_U: Do I need to change the names?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> tomeaton17: No. You may need to do manual partitioning. Unfortunately I can't walk you through that as I need to go to sleep. Hopefully someone else here can. As always, make sure you have backups of any important data.
[08:49] <tomeaton17> Ok well thanks for the help. can anyone walk me through it?
[09:00] <maja> hello, can any one recomend to me a good tool/script to download a site ? i need to download docs for a app
[09:04] <Neepu> Hi. I'm planning to update my main OS to Ubuntu GNOME 17.04. Will I be able to update this install to Ubuntu 17.10, by adjusting /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to normal?
[09:09] <linuxenko> maja, try `wget` it has resucursive download support `-r` option if i remember correctly
[09:09] <maja> linuxenko: danki :D
[09:09] <hateball> Neepu: well 17.04 is not LTS so it should already be on normal
[09:15] <maja> hehe that -r is downloading everything... and not reworking links :(
[09:26] <Jordan_U> maja: --convert-links (see "man wget" for more details).
[09:38] <maja> Jordan_U: danki
[09:44] <tomeaton17> my ubuntu freezes whenever I login
[09:48] <maja> tomeaton17: via gui or cli ?
[09:51] <tomeaton17> gui
[09:51] <tomeaton17> how do I launch into cli
[09:51] <maja> when booted
[09:52] <maja> press ctrl + alt + f1
[09:52] <tomeaton17> no that freezes it
[09:52] <maja> really ?
[09:52] <maja> thats no good
[09:52] <maja> what happens when you do that during boot ?
[09:53] <tomeaton17> I will try
[09:54] <tomeaton17> I can get in if I do before login screen
[09:55] <maja> that key combo should get you into ttly1
[09:55] <hoxolotl> "The volume "boot" has only 13.0 MB disk space remaining.   last time I tried to fix this I almost had to reinstall ubuntu :_( is there a way to fix this without having to painstakingly remove precisely packages and things?
[09:56] <maja> tomeaton17: https://askubuntu.com/questions/467912/how-do-i-log-in-in-tty1
[09:56] <maja> hoxolotl: there is a built in drive analazis tool that will show you where your space has gone
[09:57] <tomeaton17> maja: I am logged in
[09:58] <hoxolotl> error opening /boot/lost+found: permission denied.
[09:58] <maja> tomeaton17: now i recomed reconfigureing your gui
[09:58] <maja> hoxolotl: shouldn't be large file does it read the rest  ?
[09:58] <tomeaton17> How do I do that?
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> hoxolotl  there shouldnt be a lost+found in /boot
[09:59] <hoxolotl> I have a 256GB SSD, of which 126GB is free, but the boot partition is... eeeh... I don't know, it says it's 441.3MB full
[10:06] <hoxolotl> also a bit confused, this is a second hand laptop in which I put a liteon SSD, but it -might- have another SSD hidden somewhere, or I'm just confused: http://i.imgur.com/G54FxRW.png
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> hoxolotl  try    lshw
[10:10] <hoxolotl> only one *-storage
[10:11] <hoxolotl> guess just the ssd.
[10:12] <hoxolotl> still, can't change the size of the boot partition, and at 511MB it is too small it seems.
[10:12] <tomeaton17> it freezes after startx aswell
[10:14] <hoxolotl> lunchtime! bbl
[10:15] <maja> tomeaton17: i am not sure there used to be an xorg command but things have changed so much since i have done it
[10:15] <maja> tomeaton17: dpkg --reconfigure xorg might work...
[10:20] <maja> good luck ;)
[10:31] <tomeaton17> I fixed it needed to install nvidia drivers
[11:05] <hoxolotl> back from lunch, sooo, how do I make more room when getting: "The volume "boot" has only 13.0 MB disk space remaining.
[11:08] <hateball> hoxolotl: sudo apt autoremove
[11:08] <hateball> hoxolotl: that should clean out old unused kernels
[11:08] <hoxolotl> lets hope it doesn't remove too much ;)
[11:09] <hateball> It'll tell you what it wants to remove before you press Y/N
[11:09] <hateball> If apt complains/fails we'll need to do some manual fixing, but try autoremove first
[11:10] <hoxolotl> hmmz, lots of kernels, which one am I currently using I wonder... lets google how to LSkernel
[11:11] <hoxolotl> lsb_release
[11:11] <hoxolotl> uname -a it was
[11:12] <hoxolotl> ok, the current version is not on the remove list *presse Y and crosses fingers*
[11:13] <hoxolotl> lets hope the nouveau drivers don't mess up keyboard input at next boot.
[11:15] <hoxolotl> ok, rebooting after autoremove and then apt-get update && upgrad, or would it be better to update && upgrade BEFORE rebooting?
[11:15] <hateball> hoxolotl: autoremove wont remove your running kernel
[11:15] <hateball> hoxolotl: there's no need to reboot before upgrading, the packages are already gone after autoremove
[11:16] <hateball> hoxolotl: as you can check with "df -h"
[11:17] <hoxolotl> autoremove freed 50% of the boot partition, thanks hateball
[11:18] <hoxolotl> installing updates \o/
[11:22] <hoxolotl> looks like a LOT of updates didn't get enough room last time.
[11:25] <fizzixnerd> Hey there, I have some free time and I noticed that Ubuntu does not use cgroups for much of anything as of 17.04.  Is there a proposal to integrate their use into the desktop release?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:51] <hateball> hoxolotl: I tend to upgrade with "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt autoremove" to avoid filling /boot
[12:18] <donofrio_> hateball, never used full-upgrade only used dist-upgrade, I'll have to check it out....
[12:26] <hateball> donofrio_: same thing, dist-upgrade is used with apt-get, full-upgrade with apt :)
[12:39] <donofrio_> hateball, ah ic
[12:41] <binary01> hi all, ubuntu recently installed some updates and when i restarted unity launcher is gone. ive search for a solution with no luck. any suggestions?
[12:45] <oerheks> binary01, press ctrl alt T # terminal opens and see  with " ls -la "  if there is a file  ~/.compiz-1  # remove this, and logout/login > rm -rf .compiz-1
[12:46] <oerheks> this worked for me in 16.04
[12:48] <binary01> oerheks, thanks. ill try that
[12:51] <binary01> oerheks, it didnt work
[12:52] <oerheks> :-(
[12:58] <oerheks> binary01, this page has some other tips too.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/761035/ubuntu-16-04-no-menu-bar-or-launcher-help maybe the " rm -rf ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig/*  " does the trick
[13:00] <binary01> thanks, ill try it
[13:03] <oerheks> :-)
[13:03] <binary01> unfortunately, no luck
[13:03] <oerheks> oh.. then i am out of clues..
[13:03] <binary01> ok thanks
[13:04] <oerheks> lets wait for others to have an answer
[13:04] <lrojas> hi all, anybody knows how to install latest zsh on ubuntu 16.04 ? ppa, or .deb package?
[13:05] <binary01> yes sounds good. maybe i will uninstall and reinstall unity and see if that works
[13:11] <Disaster_Area> can anyone help me install the updated version of discord?
[13:13] <oerheks> lrojas, i find no paa, build it yourself from source? https://gist.github.com/m45t3r/9790552
[13:14] <oerheks> Disaster_Area, there is a snap package available, https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/05/04/discord-is-now-available-as-a-snap-for-ubuntu-and-other-distributions/
[13:15] <Disaster_Area> thanks, i'll try that
[13:16] <lrojas> thanks oerheks
[13:19] <oerheks> have fun!
[13:24] <Disaster_Area> that worked :)
[13:34] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[13:34] <yellabs-r2> my skype beta ( on ubuntu LTS ) alway's asks for ringmanager password, is there a way to avoid this ?
[13:42] <KeyboardNotFound> is there way to enable ubuntu to check for updates on every 6 h, not 1 per day?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> KeyboardNotFound  with a cronjob, maybe
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> KeyboardNotFound  type this is read the introduction     sudo crontab -e
[13:49] <pvl1> hey all. i have an arm toy with outdated crypto libs. and really, debs nor ppa's seem to exist for this forked? version of ubuntu
[13:49] <pvl1> so it seems i must compile by hand
[13:50] <pvl1> to update the installed libs... id have to build a .deb right?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> pvl1  try #ubuntu-arm
[13:50] <oerheks> !build | this is a good start
[13:50] <pvl1> thaanks
[13:51] <pvl1> oerheks: are u getting at checkinstall
[13:51] <zacts> hello
[13:51] <zacts> is there a way to install ubuntu desktop via btrfs?
[13:51] <zacts> versus ext4
[13:51] <theneteffect> Hello.
[13:51] <zacts> the current Ubuntu LTS release that is
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> zacts  yes, i use btrfs ... simply select it during installation
[13:52] <zacts> oh really, I didn't realize there was an option for this. cool, I'll try it out
[13:52] <zacts> :-)
[13:53] <zacts> do you think that canonical will eventually make btrfs the default option?
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> zacts  if they see a reason for it, maybe ... or zfs, or something else
[13:54] <zacts> ok
[13:54] <zacts> cool
[13:54] <zacts> thanks
[13:54] <zacts> =)
[13:55] <zacts> well, I'll try this out, but for now I'll leave the channel. thanks again
[13:57] <madmanonmeds> I know this is a beginner question how do you start ubuntu without a x-11 server
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> madmanonmeds  you mean in text mode?
[13:57] <madmanonmeds> yes
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> !text
[13:58] <theneteffect> hello just wondering what to do about trying to install this video driver.  I have 17.04 and i can't get the nvidia drivers installed for my gforce 9600gt.
[14:00] <theneteffect> when i install the video driver, the unity-control-center settings wont work, and if i reboot, it gives the login screen in HUGE graphics and then crashes when  I enter pw.
[14:00] <madmanonmeds> thanks, i will look there
[14:01] <oerheks> theneteffect, hos did you install nvidia drivers? i hope through the driver tool, not the download?
[14:02] <theneteffect> um
[14:02] <oerheks> * from their site, that is
[14:02] <theneteffect> hi oerheks I used the instructions on this page, is that bad? https://www.linuxhint.com/install-nvidia-drivers-linux/
[14:03] <oerheks> theneteffect, oke, the ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa is a legit ppa. what driver did you choose??
[14:03] <theneteffect> I tried the latest one 381.04 also the 304, they both crash stuff.
[14:03] <theneteffect> 381.09
[14:04] <oerheks> theneteffect, what nvidia gpu?  lspci | grep VGA  # this would show your card
[14:04] <theneteffect> hmmm i just rebooted the machine darn.  Well let me see if it will boot.
[14:05] <Ricardus> So I got an error message on the latest kernel update. Apparently the bug is known, but is it going to be an issue for me. It checks to see if theres enough room on the boot partition for the update, then it does the update, but I guess on the back end of the update generating files if you were right on the egde of not having enough room, you can run out while the process generates some files. Apparently that just happened
[14:05] <theneteffect> oh, yeah it's crashed right now, well doesn't crash...  has HUGE login screen and when i enter pw, goes back to the login screen.
[14:06] <theneteffect> I'll have to reinstall again and get back in.
[14:06] <oerheks> theneteffect, no, wait..
[14:06] <theneteffect> ok
[14:06] <theneteffect> lol the pw field is almost the whole width
[14:06] <oerheks> hit ctrl alt F2, login , and run the command
[14:06] <theneteffect> ok
[14:06] <oerheks> you would get a 'terminal session'
[14:06] <theneteffect> xeon
[14:07] <BlakeNathan> Hey there . So I'm about to go back to ubuntu after years of using Arch Derivatives and i have a partition with my files on it under /home/blake/ - I want to install Ubuntu LTS on that partition keeping that folder - I unticked the "format" box from the installer - will that work?
[14:07] <theneteffect> ok it says g94 (geforce 9600 gt) rev a1
[14:07] <oerheks> Ricardus, free some space by removing old unused kernels with : sudo apt autoremove
[14:07] <oerheks> theneteffect, odd, that should work fine with 340
[14:08] <theneteffect> the 304?  yeah i tried that one anyway
[14:08] <Ricardus> oerheks, what about this latest kernel update? Is it messed up?
[14:09] <oerheks> Ricardus, when you have cleared space, you could run apt install -f to correct these problems i guess
[14:09] <Ricardus> It wants to reboot to finish the process, but if it generated an error on installation will I get a crash?
[14:09] <theneteffect> I guess I can relegate it, just wanted the box on ubuntu if possible.  Ah well.
[14:10] <theneteffect> It's not "important" so it's ok.
[14:10] <theneteffect> that video card is age-old anyway.
[14:12] <melissa_> Hello. Flash games don't run smoothly for me, the motion is very jerky. I've an Intel HD 510 graphics card. Does anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[14:12] <melissa_> I have the default drivers
[14:12] <Ricardus> oerheks, it seems when I did the autoremove, it installed 4.4.0-91-generic properly as part of the process
[14:12] <Ricardus> thanks!
[14:14] <foozb12> melissa_, specific to chrome or occurring in firefox etc too?
[14:15] <oerheks> melissa_, you might need to write your xorg.conf with tearfree ans sna to fix this > https://askubuntu.com/a/469653  old answer, still valid for newest intel GPUs
[14:16] <KeyboardNotFound> Which firefox version is the firefox embedded in ubuntu based on ?
[14:18] <melissa_> 54. I've added the tearfree option and will now try restarting. Thanks.
[14:27] <linuxenko> 2 melissa , https://github.com/linuxenko/ubuntu-skylake-i915-video-fix , does the trick
[14:39] <BlakeNathan> Hey there . So I'm about to go back to ubuntu after years of using Arch Derivatives and i have a partition with my files on it under /home/blake/ - I want to install Ubuntu LTS on that partition keeping that folder - I unticked the "format" box from the installer - will that work?
[14:40] <leftyfb> BlakeNathan: I wouldn't do that
[14:41] <leftyfb> BlakeNathan: I would backup and then install and restore
[14:41] <BlakeNathan> leftyfb: why not?
[14:41] <leftyfb> BlakeNathan: The obvious possible loss of data
[14:44] <BlakeNathan> leftyfb: how likely is that if the 'format' box is unticked
[14:46] <vlt> Not very unlikely. The installer process is copying files somewhere. Maybe it cleans the destination before.
[14:47] <leftyfb> BlakeNathan: So the data on this folder, it's completely useless to you and you'd be completely fine with it being deleted right? if so, go for it.
[14:47] <nbusrone> How do I list files without folder but include dates or file size ? Someone mention must use script but which script to use ? newbie here
[14:48] <leftyfb> nbusrone: find <PATHTOFILES> -type f -exec ls -l {} \;
[14:51] <Younder> ??
[14:51] <Younder> dont't you mean type -d
[14:53] <leftyfb> Younder: he wanted "list files without folder"
[14:53] <nbusrone> leftyfb : Thank you very much :D How can I arrange according to acceding and descending , modified Date or A-Z ?
[14:53] <leftyfb> nbusrone:  | sort
[14:57] <Younder> ls -ld
[14:59] <Younder> in my home dir it jst gives . with attrutes. what is going one here?
[15:02] <peterrooney> Younder: think about what the default argument of ls is - the current working directory.  you've told it to list the directory as a directory only, instead of listing its contents.
[15:02] <oerheks> Younder, what do you expect to see then? drwxr-xr-x 36 <user>  <user>  4096 aug 11 04:05 . is oke
[15:02] <leftyfb> Younder: find -type f will only list files. So the ls -ld isn't going to make a difference
[15:02] <oerheks> man ls
[15:06] <Younder> serously I would expect it lo list the name of all the subdirs not just .
[15:07] <leftyfb> Younder: find . -type f
[15:07] <leftyfb> Younder: man find
[15:09] <Younder> how do you make 'find . -type f' stop at the first dir level
[15:09] <Younder> ?
[15:10] <Younder> didn't like -depth 1
[15:15] <peterrooney> Younder: You're thinking maxdepth. depth controls the /order/ that find goes through the tree.
[15:16] <Younder> thx
[15:18] <rellis> Hello all. Im on 16.04 and just installed a round of updates. Now I'm getting this when opening unity-control-center....
[15:18] <rellis> (unity-control-center:4647): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
[15:18] <rellis> it ends in a seg fault
[15:18] <rellis> anyone else seen this?
[15:19] <oerheks> rellis, that is normal, gtk warnings when you open a gui program from comandline
[15:19] <rellis> except that immediately following that it says... Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:19] <rellis> this is not normal, at all
[15:20] <Younder> Programs are full of bugs approx one every 5000 lines. Expect a few.
[15:20] <rellis> also since i see nothing identifying the log level i have no idea how you seem to identify that as a "warning"... it explicitly says "GLib-CRITICAL"
[15:21] <rellis> which would really not make me think it's simply a warning
[15:21] <oerheks> ignore it, or just use the launcher from your menu
[15:21] <rellis> oerheks: I guess you're really not listening... no matter where unity-control-center is launched from it segfaults and crashes on launch...
[15:22] <rellis> there is no option to ignore it unless i dont want to ever be able to enter unity-control-center
[15:22] <rellis> but thanks for attempting to ignore my problem...
[15:22] <pavlos> rellis: do an update/upgrade to make sure all packages are well
[15:23] <rellis> pavlos: I just did that last night. I confirmed apt/dpkg are in a happy place and everything is up-to-date.
[15:24] <pavlos> rellis: apt-cache policy unity-control-center
[15:25] <rellis> pavlos: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25290699/
[15:26] <Younder> 'apt-cache policy unity-control-center' claimed my 16.04 install was a 15.04
[15:27] <oerheks> 15.04.0+16.04.20170214-0ubuntu1 does not say that, Younder
[15:27] <pavlos> rellis: I have the same but instead of code 990 I have code 500
[15:27] <rellis> huh
[15:28] <rellis> i know this is not the answer but im gonna reboot for sanity sake
[15:28] <rellis> ill be back in 5
[15:28] <oerheks> reinstall unity-control-center perhaps?
[15:28] <rellis> ya i was wondering about that
[15:28] <rellis> ya ill try that before i reboot
[15:29] <oerheks> there is no .conf file in ~/.config AFAIK to reset
[15:29] <rellis> ya i didnt really think a reboot was gonna solve anything, heh
[15:29] <rellis> it rarely does =p
[15:31] <rellis> i just reinstalled and got the same
[15:31] <rellis> i guess i could try purge if it has config files that are corrupted
[15:32] <rellis> and of course that requires removing all of ubuntu-desktop
[15:33] <rellis> sigh...
[15:33] <rellis> alright im gonna reboot
[15:35] <pavlos> rellis: dont know why you get code 990 (it should be 500
[15:36] <pavlos> rellis: man apt_preferences
[15:51] <nbusrone> leftyfb : Which should I add in the | sort on  -type f -exec ls -l {} \; ?  and what are the | sort command for modified time ? -ctime or -t ? I tested both also not working
[15:58] <pavlos> nbusrone: try this, find . -type f -printf "%T+\t%p\n" | sort   (starts from current dir
[15:59] <nbusrone> pavlos : what is the sort command ? -t or -mtime or something else , if using find ?
[16:01] <pavlos> nbusrone: no parms on sort ... the listing is, datetime TAB filename
[16:04] <pavlos> nbusrone: %T is file modification time, %p is filename, \t is TAB (man find, look for -printf format
[16:05] <nbusrone> pavlos : Thanks :D , finally what about Name acceding or descending ?
[16:06] <nbusrone> pavlos : And also how do I remove the path like /home/photo/ etc ? just the name of the file IMG_123.JPG ?
[16:09] <Younder> pathname gve just the name
[16:09] <tomeaton17> I have a shadowsocks server on my vps. How do I connect to it and make it work on the whole of my ubunutu?
[16:09] <pavlos> nbusrone: sort -k 2,2 will sort on the second col, you can use sed to get rid of the full path
[16:11] <tomeaton17> meant *ubuntu
[16:12] <nbusrone> pavlos : -type f -printf "%T+\t%p\n" | sort -k -2    Not working
[16:12] <pavlos> nbusrone: try %f instead of %p ... I gave you, -k 2,2
[16:16] <Sagan> Hi there :). Is there a know date when the package update for git etc will release (security update)? Debian released it yesterday
[16:18] <pavlos> nbusrone: find . -type f -printf "%T+\t%f\n" | sort -k 2,2
[16:19] <nbusrone> pavlos : Thanks it works :D so finally for months figuring out how to sort works.What if I wanted to arrange first with modifed time , and then name . -type f -printf "%T+\t%f\n" | sort -k 2,2 >~/Desktop/DCIM. Somehow , I having same picture name with different date. IMG_123.JPG for 2016 and and 2017
[16:20] <kostkon> Sagan, https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3387-1/
[16:22] <Sagan> kostkon: hm. I've run apt update two times since yesterday and there was no update available
[16:24] <Sagan> hm, looks like the right version is already installed
[16:24] <Sagan> kostkon: thank you for the link :)
[16:26] <pavlos> nbusrone: you can use "sort -k 2,2 -k 1,1" so that if filename is same, then sort by date
[16:34] <SkyLord12345> Hello! Can i use old programming languages LIST or Ada in Ubuntu ?
[16:35] <Younder> Lisp? yes Lisp and ADA are fine
[16:35] <Younder> And just about any other language you can think of
[16:36] <SkyLord12345> Hmmm, python with SDL!
[16:36] <pavlos> SkyLord12345: sudo apt install clisp (common LISP
[16:39] <Younder> sudo apt get install emacs slime sbc
[16:39] <Younder> sbcl
[16:42] <AndrewGazelka> When attempting to install Ubuntu via a USB Thumbdrive I do not get an option to "wipe device / [other option I can't remember] / more options"... it just goes straight to the welcome screen
[16:43] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: what makes you think that such an option should exist? (IIRC it doesn't)
[16:44] <AndrewGazelka> tomreyn I do not think I am referencing the names correctly
[16:44] <tomreyn> or maybe i'm misunderstanding which stage of the installation you're discussing
[16:44] <AndrewGazelka> but I have installed Ubuntu before
[16:44] <AndrewGazelka> and before I get a "Welcome" screen I can choose which drives I want to install Ubuntu on
[16:45] <AndrewGazelka> however, when clicking "install Ubuntu" it goes right to "Welcome" and skips me being able to select the drives I want to install Ubuntu on
[16:45] <tomreyn> the only place where i think both the desktop and server installers offer to wipe disks is during guided and manual partitioning
[16:45] <theneteffect> i keep getting a ping timeout 90s and it doesn't seem right.  what is happening on this irc?
[16:45] <AndrewGazelka> it auto picks my Thumbdrive as the device to install on
[16:45] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: oh okay, i didnt get you there
[16:46] <rellis> just fyi guys, thank yo ufro trying to me diagnose my unity-control-center weirdnes.. for some reason a reboot actually fixed that
[16:46] <rellis> not even a vague idea why.. but whatever
[16:46] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: so apparently the installer thinks it cannot install elsewhere and thus just offers this target.
[16:46] <AndrewGazelka> for example this
[16:46] <AndrewGazelka> https://youtu.be/Zn18iU59ujo?t=4m59s
[16:46] <AndrewGazelka> I don't see that
[16:46] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: on the other hand, i doubt it would offer to install to where it's running the installer from
[16:47] <theneteffect> oh it's a bug in hexchat that i'm using, the ping timeouts
[16:49] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: i'd assume that youonly get to see the screen offering you to download updates if a workable network link was detected.
[16:49] <oerheks> rellis, i think reinstall + purge did the nessasary steps
[16:49] <AndrewGazelka> GNU GRUB ⇒ Install Ubuntu ⇒ Goes into white text on a black screen for about 15 seconds which sats "Assuming drive cache write through, failed to enable AA failed to set xfermode, revalation failed" and a few more things ⇒ Goes to Ubuntu load screen with 5 dots underneath ⇒ Makes the starting sound and says "Welcome" and tells me to select my language
[16:50] <rellis> oerhaks: You're probably right, then i just needed to reload it all into memory
[16:50] <rellis> oerhaks: ctrl+alt+backspace might've done it if i'd been thinking
[16:50] <rellis> err sorry, oerheks
[16:50] <AndrewGazelka> I am guessing it is something with an error on the screen with white text on a black screen tomreyn ?
[16:51] <AndrewGazelka> I usually do not see that when installing Ubuntu on other computers
[16:51] <AndrewGazelka> just goes right to installation phase
[16:51] <pavlos> rellis: out of curiosity, do you still have code 990 in the policy output?
[16:52] <rellis> that's an interesting question, ill check
[16:52] <rellis> yes i still have 990 in there pavlos
[16:52] <rellis> i just re-ran it
[16:52] <pavlos> rellis: hmmm ...
[16:52] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: the installer may display text, also warnings and error messages before the graphical desktop and the welcome screen loads, that' snot unusual and not a problem.
[16:54] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: and yes, after the boot prompt ("install ubuntu"), the welcome screen ("try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu") should be the first prompt you get to see
[16:54] <nbusrone> pavlos : Sorry for the late reply , what is -k means ? 2,2 or 1,1 ?
[16:55] <pavlos> nbusrone: -k field,field is for sort for sort on the second field, then on the first field ... see man sort
[16:56] <nbusrone> pavlos : Thanks again , no wonder I can't find the command , I keep on searching at find man https://help.ubuntu.com/community/find will see the man sort. Thank you  :)
[16:59] <AndrewGazelka> oops tomreyn disconnected there :P
[16:59] <AndrewGazelka> let me upload a video
[16:59] <pavlos> nbusrone: yw
[17:14] <AndrewGazelka> tomreyn https://goo.gl/photos/bzQv41iusfgpp8CJ7
[17:15] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: yes?
[17:16] <AndrewGazelka> shouldn't there be an option to choose which drive I want to install Ubuntu on? tomreyn ?
[17:17] <oerheks> that is grub2 menu, when you start 'install ubuntu' you wil get to the choise menu
[17:17] <oerheks> after language/keyboard and such
 AndrewGazelka: so apparently the installer thinks it cannot install elsewhere and thus just offers this target.
[17:19] <AndrewGazelka> ah
[17:19] <AndrewGazelka> didn't see that
[17:19] <tomreyn> okay, it was probably when you got disconnected
[17:20] <tomreyn> or jýou just missed it ;)
[17:20] <AndrewGazelka> oerheks see where it says "you need at least 8.6GB disk space to install Ubuntu"?
[17:20] <AndrewGazelka> tomreyn think I was disconnected
[17:21] <AndrewGazelka> tomreyn any idea what I can do to debug? I have installed Ubuntu on the computer before and have gotten it to work
[17:21] <tomreyn> oerheks: in case you also missed the fact initially, what AndrewGazelka uploaded is a video, not just a still image.
[17:21] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: which ubuntu version are you trying to install there?
[17:21] <AndrewGazelka> 16.04 LTS I think
[17:22] <AndrewGazelka> latest LTS
[17:22] <AndrewGazelka> ik
[17:22] <tomreyn> 16.04.0 or 16.04.3?
[17:22] <tomreyn> or something in between?
[17:22] <tomreyn> do you still have the iso image?
[17:22] <AndrewGazelka> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[17:22] <tomreyn> hmm okay so i had assumed that to work.
[17:23] <tomreyn> the issue there is, as you already seem to have found out,. that the sda devide (which is probably a hard disk or SSD larger than 8 GB?) is not accessible due to an error.
[17:24] <AndrewGazelka> yeah, I have 250 GB free space for Ubuntu
[17:24] <AndrewGazelka> and it is a SSD, but I doubt that matters
[17:24] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: whether this is due to a hardware error or some other issue i would not know. you could try t cinfirm my suspicion by entering live mode and running lsblk --fs and posting that to a pastebin.
[17:25] <tomreyn> "sudo lsblk --fs" actually
[17:25] <AndrewGazelka> should I run that after I "use ubuntu without installing"?
[17:26] <tomreyn> right
[17:26] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: if you recently changed bios settings which could affect (S)ATA / HDD / storage devices, be sure to undo those changes.
[17:27] <tomreyn> also, you could choose to (possibly) skip debugging this and just install ubuntu 14.04 LTS instead, then upgrade to 16.04
[17:28] <pavlos> is there another OS in the SSD?
[17:32] <AndrewGazelka> hastebin.com/onucidogop.pas
[17:33] <AndrewGazelka> pavlos I have 2 SSDs, and free space for the OS to install
[17:33] <AndrewGazelka> they run Windows 10
[17:34] <AndrewGazelka> was going to install on my macbook but the wifi was rip
[17:35] <oerheks> looks like in your bios, sata is set to raid, not AHCI? that is why it does not show up ?
[17:37] <blackflow> Guys, question. I've installed ubuntu desktop 17.04 with debootstrap. It seems I'm missing some repository entries. Where can I find default sources.list set up by the regular installer?
[17:37] <blackflow> in particular, there's no package "steam", though I have 'main universe non-free multiverse' enabled
[17:37] <AndrewGazelka> probably raid because it is 2 disks oerheks ?
[17:38] <AndrewGazelka> not really familiar with AHCI
[17:38] <nacc> blackflow: did you `sudo apt update` ?
[17:38] <nacc> !info steam zesty | blackflow
[17:38] <blackflow> nacc: yes
[17:38] <nacc> blackflow: 'non-free' is not a thing in ubuntu, btw
[17:38] <blackflow> ah... could be that's breaking it
[17:39] <blackflow> hmm, no, still no package steam
[17:39] <ducasse> blackflow: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:39] <ducasse> ^^ might be of interest
[17:40] <oerheks> AndrewGazelka, raid can be used on 1 disc too, check the bios for the sata interface settings?
[17:40] <oerheks> not sure what windows10 will do when you change this..
[17:41] <AndrewGazelka> hmm oerheks both of my disks say they are non-raid
[17:42] <AndrewGazelka> one said iti is NVMe and the other is AHCI
[17:42] <AndrewGazelka> the one I have the free space on is AHCI
[17:42] <blackflow> ducasse: yeah I used that.
[17:42] <blackflow> This is my sources.list:  https://dpaste.de/pHA3
[17:42] <AndrewGazelka> wait
[17:42] <AndrewGazelka> but under SATA Mode Selection I see [RAID]
[17:42] <nacc> blackflow: dunno, is hte hr.archive.ubuntu.com maybe out of date?
[17:43] <AndrewGazelka> not really that great with BIOS / disks so probably looking at the wrong things xD
[17:44] <oerheks> AndrewGazelka, that is the one
[17:44] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: that sata mode selection probably needs to be set to AHCI  to be able to install (any) linux on any SATA controller connected disks
[17:44] <tomreyn> but it may break your windows installation
[17:44] <tomreyn> quite likely
[17:45] <blackflow> nacc: tried without the country mirror prefix, still the same
[17:46] <blackflow> nacc: do I have to enable multilib support somehow? add i386 or something support?
[17:46] <nacc> blackflow: did you re-apt update (might need to delete the local cache first)
[17:46] <blackflow> nacc: sure, and apt-get clean and autoclean first
[17:46] <nacc> blackflow: oh yeah, you need to have i386 as a valid arch
[17:47] <blackflow> nacc: dpkg --add-architecture i386   ?
[17:47] <blackflow> nacc: oh yeah, that did it. thanks.
[17:47] <scorch> hey guys! pretty weird, this: "scorch  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" doesn't stop bash from promting for a password with sudo (I'm on 17.04)
[17:50] <pavlos> scorch: no space after D: .... scorch ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[17:50] <scorch> my bad, found it
[17:50] <scorch> pavlos: nope :)
[17:51] <scorch> needed to be after the admin group rule
[17:53] <AndrewGazelka> oops got disconnected again
[17:53] <AndrewGazelka> when going to SATA Mode Selection it only has option "RAID"
[17:53] <AndrewGazelka> no option for anything else
[17:53] <pavlos> scorch: fyi sudo nopasswd is huge security risk
[17:54] <AndrewGazelka> 😳
[17:55] <AndrewGazelka> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7dbOfcqhP8b8uWGmzz4Iwu29oQUJQYEWx8RgqwByq56i9OccTV24y4nPKum-fJ0wKK2LvpixjHVTGJlJyWhBNtVw8WYjnZeeCPtyWcMSXYF4Dx_9imvZiaBYfmljyy5V9LEqTj4JNEoFG3O81P_EGrM3a_3LSDiwpHOxnM2IiEh6c_7fIabscfbMf7LWJGPRn4X1elH__go622mbThiri-TDM6LyqR80qxdZAXsYTn1FcBYHgbN8VsbV63cyMnIToaNp2kJJgviSpxwkCYf-cA-sx72Q3qbDphuzZ6wNcFgfAfQev7PSsfcUWzCwSnceYMAa6MQLeuQbW2Wq_w4kUKaeU9J9TM7xeySRHXIllmstq_t_DHfL9H_u7TzsexSrXJvU0NDz
[17:55] <AndrewGazelka> lVJ2d8Nj0zi_e-hUz6KDa_FVL2rINVGurNyuBrcgz6cR3QA7JRtDbU3KoLRj7qw2TafKzqSFjnfqpbj3M39uUf526VK7YyNeXqeTvJdhPvAC7Mq2YD0JgHidrOfyz81adezA4QEaolYlXMyr3t9s5T_osk5tMHgecFRU6qyguHmb6zDtGb6V8iG0eYfP5A6ekNNtzl3TfEuLRdLpA0H6A8kHsMjBQJcyj7n7KjgYpeHtVEHYoszPz4t4CFINgYI6muVEdYdCaET_oxC5DprjP8psBSwqGO1xTjqseaM=w1264-h711-no
[17:55] <AndrewGazelka> oh rip
[17:55] <AndrewGazelka> that link
[17:56] <AndrewGazelka> https://goo.gl/photos/igxhXYcGt5MTDEKPA
[17:56] <AndrewGazelka> much better
[17:56] <arooni> somehow via gnome tweak tool my right control key got changed to something that is not ctrl;  how do i make right control right control again
[17:58] <AndrewGazelka> tomreyn any other ideas? o.o
[18:00] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: it's getting off topic, but i guess you may need to do this http://www.overclock.net/t/1227636/how-to-change-sata-modes-after-windows-installation#
[18:00] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: you want to change from RAID to AHCI
[18:01] <AndrewGazelka> what confuses me is how Ubuntu was working previously
[18:01] <AndrewGazelka> with 14.04 (I think) LTS
[18:01] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: maybe that was before you or that other Os you have installed chose to change that bios option
[18:02] <AndrewGazelka> I have had Windows on here for a long time
[18:03] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: you could still try 14.04 and upgrading as discussed earlier. but i'm not convinced that you could install that as long as this bios setting remains as it is.
[18:05] <KeyboardNotFound> Ubuntu never check for updates, whenever I start software-update manually there are lots of updates but I never get the "update window" automatically. How to solve this problem?
[18:05] <tomreyn> AndrewGazelka: this said, you have a couple of things you can try (chat logs are at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com if you missed more chat) and i'll be back later.
[18:05] <arooni> right now in ubuntu's unity the right control key launches the application run menu
[18:05] <arooni> how can i disable taht
[18:17] <eelstrebor> i'm unable to boot my laptop from cd/dvd/usb with safe mode on or off and with csm enabled or disabled - it tries to boot but hangs before os is loaded. what would cause that?
[18:24] <oerheks> eelstrebor, maybe nomodeset is your fix
[18:24] <oerheks> !nomodeset
[18:30] <Dbugger> Hi everyone
[18:30] <Dbugger> I keep having some lag, only when using my board. Does anyone know how I could find out the source of it?
[18:31] <wedgie> what is "my board"?
[18:32] <Dbugger> I meant my keyboard
[18:32] <Dbugger> sorry
[18:32] <Spec> midi?
[18:32] <wedgie> so everything is responsive, except you get typing lag?
[18:33] <Dbugger> wedgie, kinda. I can keep scrolling with the mouse, but the key inputs are not working so well..
[18:58] <Zedax> hey there , i know is not directly related with the channel however... , do you have any recommendation for linux certifications that are still relevant or worth? in a try to "look better" for potential employers? for someone with years of sysadmin experience but no certs or degree in IT, anything besides the RHCA/RHCE (is that still worth..?),  anyone knows the SUSE certs? (thanks!)
[19:01] <scottjl> Zedax: some people look at the LPIC's as worthwhile.
[19:01] <AndrewGazelka> hmm I can't seem to change the mode easily
[19:02] <AndrewGazelka> from RAID
[19:03] <kenrin> Depends where you are located.  Suse is garbage in US to employers.
[19:04] <scottjl> true. US is pretty much RHEL dominated, with some Ubuntu here and there.
[19:06] <Zedax> i was thinking on taking the comptia linux/lpic in the next weeks because seems pretty easy and is not expensive, the redhat ones are kind of expensive so i was wondering, i'm in europe but i haven't seen the suse ones mentioned often either
[19:06] <scottjl> well. you get what you pay for.
[19:07] <scottjl> the RHEL ones are regarded higher than the LPIC's.
[19:07] <scottjl> in the US
[19:07] <dunpeal> Hi. Suppose I'm an experienced Ubuntu user, who knows how to fully configure a vanilla Ubuntu installation to my liking. What benefits, if any, would I gain by switching to Mint?
[19:08] <kenrin> You'd get the restricted drivers and audio things without having to install them
[19:08] <kenrin> That is about it
[19:08] <flying_sausages> guys I'm getting some issues with apt lock, dpkg and stuff, can someone help me? http://i.imgur.com/Ac1p3qA.png
[19:09] <dunpeal> kenrin: you mean the restricted drivers I get on Ubuntu through the section of the Settings program?
[19:09] <flying_sausages> I moved some dpkg locks just before to _bak copies
[19:09] <dunpeal> Proprietary Drivers or some such?
[19:09] <flying_sausages> which resolved my earlier issues
[19:09] <kenrin> Yep,  mint is just a bit more user friendly in stuff like that
[19:10] <flying_sausages> but dunno how to fix this linux-image related thing, pretty afraid of screwing things up
[19:11] <kenrin> Just remove the lock file it tells you flying_sausages then try again
[19:11] <Zedax> scottjl: the thing that had kept me away of the rhel is that they force you to keep paying each few years to have the certification, and they do nothing besides creating your user profile
[19:12] <flying_sausages> kenrin already did that before but now dunno
[19:12] <pavlos> flying_sausages: seems an apt process is still running locking things
[19:12] <kenrin> That is the top answers on all of the askubuntu and stack.  sudo rm /var/cache/debconf/*.dat
[19:13] <kenrin> Or just find out what process has the dpkg lock and stop it
[19:14] <pavlos> flying_sausages: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:15] <pavlos> flying_sausages: ps cax | grep PID ... if running kill -9 PID, verify with ps again
[19:15] <flying_sausages> pavlos that lsof command returned nothing
[19:15] <pavlos> flying_sausages: let dpkg fix things ... sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:17] <pavlos> flying_sausages: if dpkg comes clean, do an update if you get errors try the -f install again
[19:18] <flying_sausages> pavlos man I have no idea what pid to look for, should I check htop for dpkg? apt?
[19:19] <pavlos> flying_sausages: since lsof gave you nothing, there is no lock file. I'd say, do the dpkg --configure -a
[19:19] <flying_sausages> ok running cheers
[19:20] <flying_sausages> same result when trying to apt upgrade pavlos
[19:21] <ioria> flying_sausages,     sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[19:21] <pavlos> flying_sausages: did you try update first?
[19:21] <flying_sausages> pavlos yes, do that by habit before upgrade
[19:23] <eelstrebor> oerheks, well that saved me - thanks - certainly not an intuitive solution
[19:23] <ioria> flying_sausages,     that should  give you the pid then you can kill -9 it
[19:23]  * eelstrebor needs to write this down but then he'll forget where he put the info
[19:25] <flying_sausages> ioria for some reason I can't pkill it...
[19:25] <ioria> flying_sausages,     sudo kill -9 PID
[19:25] <flying_sausages> got it cheers ioria
[19:25] <ioria> flying_sausages,     pkill takes program name
[19:26] <flying_sausages> buuut I still have unmet dependencies for linux-image-...
[19:26] <flying_sausages> sudo apt -f install i guess
[19:26] <eelstrebor> the reason i needed to boot a live cd is that something crazy is going on with the 5 GHz in that lappy and it locked up the pc so i had to find a way in to remove that network manager profile - it's still not working and i can't change to the 2.4GHz or the ethernet port
[19:27] <pavlos> flying_sausages: or sudo apt install that kernel directly
[19:27] <ioria> flying_sausages,    other than that, there's the nuke option , i guess : sudo rm /var/cache/debconf/*.dat
[19:28] <eelstrebor> it disables sudo & sshd also
[19:30] <eelstrebor> kills the ethernet port also
[19:30]  * eelstrebor doesn't believe this lappy is still under warrenty
[19:36] <davedadizzel> Guys I'm having trouble with the appstreamcli. I know it is a common bug, but I can't really figure out how to solve it, since I am completely new to Linux. When trying to update via sudo apt-get update I get *** Error in `appstreamcli': double free or corruption (!prev): 0x088d6660 *** as an error. Anyone can help?
[19:37] <davedadizzel> I already tried a few things like on the internet like for example: https://askubuntu.com/questions/774986/appstreamcli-hanging-with-100-cpu-usage-during-update and other comparable posts
[19:48] <pavlos> davedadizzel: see the post marked 77 ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/774986/appstreamcli-hanging-with-100-cpu-usage-during-update
[19:53] <Dbugger> Why do I keep getting disconnected to IRC??
[19:53] <EriC^^> the quit msg suggests something like the irc client getting killed
[19:54] <EriC^^> are you using pkill for instance?
[19:54] <theneteffect> hi Dbugger
[19:54] <theneteffect> Dbugger, are you using hexchat?
[19:54] <Dbugger> theneteffect, yes indeed
[19:55] <Dbugger> EriC^^, I have no idea what that is
[19:55] <theneteffect> ah it's a bug in hexchat, i have found a very quick workaround...
[19:55] <EriC^^> Dbugger: alright, nevermind
[19:55] <Dbugger> theneteffect, which is?
[19:55] <theneteffect> let me get the command Dbugger
[19:56] <theneteffect> here it is...  /timer -repeat 0 40 ping
[19:56] <theneteffect> I dunno the real bug fix heh
[19:57] <Dbugger> Do I need to to that every time I connect?
[19:58] <EriC^^> Dbugger: try "dmesg | grep hexchat" in a terminal
[19:58] <theneteffect> prob it's just a timer, Dbugger
[19:59] <theneteffect> Im not even sure how good that is of a workaround LOL just stumbled on it
[19:59] <Dbugger> EriC^^, that gave me nothing
[19:59] <EriC^^> Dbugger: ok
[19:59] <EriC^^> Dbugger: how are you starting hexchat?
[19:59] <Dbugger> Through the unity launcher
[19:59] <EriC^^> ok
[20:00] <theneteffect> it's a bug in hexchat
[20:00] <Dbugger> A pretty big one... shame, I like the client...
[20:00] <Dbugger> Ill have to get another one
[20:00] <Dbugger> Do you have any suggestion?
[20:00] <theneteffect> let me know what you pick, Dbugger !
[20:01] <Dbugger> I guess Xchat..
[20:01] <Dbugger> the one I know the best
[20:01] <troy1> i love weechat the  best you can use http://glowing-bear.org as the front end
[20:03] <Bashing-om> !xchat | Dbugger
[20:03] <Dbugger> yeah, I was reading just that
[20:03] <Dbugger> Good Lord... there really is nothing out there.. :S
[20:04] <troy1> weechat is strong and alive
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Dbugger: If you are comfortable in terminal . there is irssi .
[20:05] <Dbugger> Im not sure I can do terminal and IRC...
[20:05] <troy1> you can always use web front end for weechat
[20:05] <troy1> http://glowing-bear.org
[20:05] <Dbugger> It all looks so terrible..
[20:06] <Dbugger> I might stick with Hexchat, despite the bug =P
[20:06] <theneteffect> I think that workaround works, I dunno, just started trying it a little while ago.
[20:06] <Dbugger> I will look into it, Thanks for it
[20:12] <tomreyn> theneteffect: which bug in hexchat were you referring to there?
[20:16] <theneteffect> hi tomreyn it disconnects from certain servers with ping error
[20:17] <kenrin> You sure there isn't just a socket or internet issue?  Have not seen any hexchat errors recently
[20:17]  * [n0mad] stays connected for days
[20:18] <theneteffect> hi kenrin ah yes i was reading a bug report earlier.  and hexchat isn't worked on anymore.
[20:19] <theneteffect> i experimented with higher times than 40s, but it seems to still timeout.  Somehow the timered ping gets missed, then the regular ping, and timeout occurs.
[20:21] <kenrin> I don't see anything on their github page under the issues but if you say so..
[20:21] <theneteffect> lol so much for that then
[20:22] <theneteffect> what a pain in my ass this is. lol
[20:22] <tomreyn> unreported bugs wont get fixed
[20:22] <tomreyn> (exceptions possible)
[20:22] <theneteffect> Oh it's been reported.  Anyway, report bugs in this case won't get fixed either.
[20:23] <tomreyn> can you point us to the bug report then?
[20:23] <kenrin> Where was it reported to?  It definitely isn't on their github page where is where I would expect to see it
[20:23] <theneteffect> I don't have it handy.
[20:24] <tomreyn> which version are you using?
[20:24] <theneteffect> that last one, the 2.12.4
[20:25] <tomreyn> so you're on zesty?
[20:26] <theneteffect> yes 17.04 is that zesty?
[20:27] <theneteffect> gotta go.  Take care you guys. Keep up the good work.
[20:27] <tomreyn> right
[20:27] <tomreyn> see you
[20:28] <kenrin> Hey tomreyn,  is there anything I can do to speed up ubuntu installed to a usb?
[20:29] <kenrin> I'm going to disable atime for the FS and use tmpfs to start with.
[20:30] <gabrielc> kenrin: usb 3?
[20:31] <kenrin> It is not usb 3 because the computer does not support it.  But it does run off sdcard
[20:32] <tomreyn> kenrin: move away from that as soon as you can, it won't make you happy in the long run.
[20:32] <kenrin> It is just for rescues and things so I figured it would be ok.  But it takes like 30 minutes just to upgrade kernel and linux images
[20:33] <tomreyn> and aside from disabling atime i can't think of anything OTOH
[20:33] <kenrin> Might have to move to live usb with persistence
[20:35] <tomreyn> external ssd is a lot more fun
[20:44] <elfuego> anyone knows how to install git 2.14.1 on debian jesse, tried using https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ubuntu/ppa, but i’m getting a 404 when it tries to do a apt-get update
[20:44] <tomreyn> elfuego: does it say "debian" behind the # here?
[20:45] <ispaul> Hello, I'm having a problem whenever I run apt-get update. It returns a 404 from this link:
[20:45] <ispaul> E: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.150 80]
[20:46] <tomreyn> ispaul: that's correct, this file is not there, nor are packages for the amd64 architecture available on ports.ubuntu.com
[20:47] <ipatrol> If I have a system which has packages that conflict with gtk2, then that means I would have to recompile wxWidgets from source to use gtk3, right?
[20:48] <tomreyn> ispaul: i.e. you'd get amd64 packages from archive.ubuntu.com - the default (non-port) mirrors.
[20:49] <tomreyn> ipatrol: If you have a system which has packages that conflict with gtk2 then you have mayvbe installed too many 3rd party packages and created an unsupportable zombie system.
[20:51] <ipatrol> tomreyn: I'm trying to figure out if that's the case or if synaptic is just lousy at dependency resolution
[20:53] <tomreyn> ipatrol: then put synaptic aside for a bit and work with apt or apt-get on the temrinal. it's not that hard.
[20:54] <ipatrol> tomreyn: I'm working with aptitude right now, which is usually better than either of them
[20:54] <tomreyn> i would not agree on this, not in 2017. but i guess either should work still.
[20:56] <ipatrol> tomreyn: I still find aptitude is a lot more capable at untangling dependencies
[20:56] <Pro9x> Hey eny from Danmark Can help me ?
[20:57] <ispaul> Had no idea that vlc was an integral part of kde. Accidentally uninstalled a lot of kde stuff :(
[20:57] <tomreyn> !dk | Pro9x
[20:57] <Pro9x> Ok thx
[20:58] <tomreyn> Pro9x: you can also get english language support here of course, just not necessarily from denmark
[21:02] <Pro9x> I have change server system from Windows today bot cant get premission to my disk from win server Can se dem bot not edit
[21:04] <tomreyn> i do not understand "from win server Can se dem bot not edit"
[21:06] <EriC^^> 's/bot/but/g'
[21:06] <Pro9x> Hav plug in mu Windows data disk in my ubuntu Can se file bot not rename and edit
[21:06] <EriC^^> Pro9x: run the filemanager with gksu
[21:07] <EriC^^> "gksu nautilus" in a terminal
[21:07] <fuser> Hi. My GDM isn't displaying any wayland sessions (I can't select them). Would it be difficult to disable GDM and just start whatever wayland session I like myself?
[21:08] <Pro9x> I install gksu now
[21:08] <EriC^^> Pro9x: ok
[21:09] <Pro9x> Cut not open disk Play
[21:09] <EriC^^> Pro9x: gksu nautilus said that?
[21:09] <Pro9x> Yes
[21:10] <EriC^^> Pro9x: that's very odd
[21:10] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try "sudo nautilus"
[21:10] <EriC^^> try "sudo -i" then type nautilus
[21:12] <Pro9x> Its The sam
[21:14] <EriC^^> Pro9x: where did you mount the windows disk?
[21:14] <dan01> Anyone experience visual lag, when skipping videos on VLC?
[21:14] <Pro9x> Its com automatik ven i install ubuntu
[21:14] <EriC^^> Pro9x: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:15] <oerheks> dan01, sounds normal, waiting for data to be loaded??
[21:15] <EriC^^> Pro9x: type the link it gives you here
[21:16] <flying_sausages> hey guys, any suggestions for the simplest, quickest and easiest to set up mail servers onto a server?
[21:16] <dan01> oerheks: No, I'm talking about this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/778933/vlc-pixelated-video-when-skipping
[21:16] <Pro9x> Y
[21:17] <pavlos> flying_sausages: I assume the update/upgrade issue was resolved.
[21:17] <EriC^^> Pro9x: it's a pastebin
[21:17] <flying_sausages> pavlos yes it was, cheers for all the help!
[21:17] <oerheks> dan01, what nvidia gpu is this?
[21:17] <glitsj16> fuser: Did you disable wayland in GDM's config? What ubuntu version are you seeing this on?
[21:18] <dan01> oerheks: mine is GeForce 940M
[21:18] <Pro9x> And this is ?
[21:18] <dan01> oerheks: Nvidia drivers seems to solve this, but I want nouveau for Wayland
[21:19] <oerheks> .. so it is solved..?
[21:19] <EriC^^> Pro9x: i dont understand
[21:19] <Pro9x> Wat is it ?
[21:20] <EriC^^> Pro9x: the command i gave you sends the output to the pastebin termbin.com and gives a link
[21:20] <fuser> glitsj16: oh sorry, ubuntu 16.10 (I just realized this channel excludes that version). Anyway I'm switching to LightDM
[21:20] <fuser> so no need to debug this
[21:20] <fuser> 17.10*
[21:21] <glitsj16> fuser: no worries
[21:21] <Pro9x> http://termbin.com/z7x6
[21:22] <oerheks> dan01, i thought nouveau is designed for X, not wayland?
[21:22] <EriC^^> Pro9x: how big is the disk you're talking about?
[21:23] <dan01> oerheks: you might be right, the idea is I experience this on wayland as well, and I can't install Nvidia, neither do I wish to.
[21:23] <Pro9x> 1x 3tb 1x 2tb 1x 200gb 1x 500gb
[21:24] <dan01> By the way question: Does Wayland support hybrid graphics like optimus?
[21:24] <dan01> or does it have nothing to do with it
[21:24] <EriC^^> Pro9x: type "sudo chown -R $USER: /media/dgserver/Disk*"
[21:27] <Pro9x> Hav run The command
[21:29] <Pro9x> Cant rename folders
[21:33] <EriC^^> Pro9x: can you pastebin the output of "sudo nautilus" ?
[21:33] <geirha> they're all mounted with ro
[21:33] <geirha> aka read-only
[21:33] <EriC^^> ah, good eye geirha
[21:34] <EriC^^> Pro9x: type "sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/dgserver/Disk\ 03\ 200Gb"
[21:34] <Pro9x> http://termbin.com/g70t
[21:37] <Pro9x> Mount point does not exist
[21:39] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try "sudo mount -r remount,rw /dev/sdd1"
[21:40] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdd1"
[21:40] <EriC^^> nevermind the first one, it had a typo
[21:42] <Pro9x> Y now Its work
[21:43] <EriC^^> Pro9x: ok, also type "for i in e5 b2 c2; do sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sd$i"
[21:44] <Pro9x> Y thk thk Its so Nice
[21:44] <EriC^^> Pro9x: np, have fun
[21:46] <Pro9x> Its read-only :-(
[21:46] <midwestward> hi. how can i configure ubuntu to use a specific ip (or interface) for outbound connections? i suppose it the solution is probably adding a post-up command to /etc/network/interfaces, but i don't quite understand what to do. is this directionally correct? route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 dev eth0:1
[21:47] <EriC^^> Pro9x: did you get any errors after the last command?
[21:47] <Pro9x> No
[21:48] <EriC^^> Pro9x: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" again
[21:48] <Pro9x> http://termbin.com/gg41
[21:49] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try "sudo chown -R $USER: /media/dgserver/Disk*"
[21:49] <gabrielc> midwestward: how many networks/interfaces  do you have?
[21:50] <Pro9x> Read-only
[21:51] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try "sudo nautilus |& nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:52] <nomic> z.
[21:52] <midwestward> gabrielc: 2 i have a second static ip for the US that i prefer to use
[21:53] <Pro9x> http://termbin.com/wwfi
[21:54] <EriC^^> Pro9x: are you ssh'd into the host?
[21:54] <gabrielc> midwestward: have you two routes (on each interface) for the same destination?
[21:55] <Pro9x> I SSH from ipad bot type The commads om The computer
[21:56] <midwestward> galrielc: not sure http://dpaste.com/2KHMGQK
[21:58] <Pro9x> http://termbin.com/cv6k
[21:59] <EriC^^> Pro9x: press ctrl+c to get the shell back
[21:59] <Pro9x> Y
[22:00] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try "sudo -i" then cd /media/dgserver/Disk <press tab a few times to autocomplete the name>
[22:00] <EriC^^> Pro9x: cd "/media/dgserver/Disk 02 (Nas)  500Gb"
[22:00] <EriC^^> then try to edit it
[22:01] <EriC^^> Pro9x: try creating a file with "touch somefile"
[22:01] <gabrielc> midwestward: i think that based on the destination ip the traffic leaves using the first ip address of the interface according to the route for that destination
[22:03] <gabrielc> midwestward: based on destination routing
[22:05] <midwestward> gabrielc: the first interface is automatically configured (somehow I don't really understand how): auto ens3; iface ens3 inet dhcp
[22:05] <midwestward> i don't think it is possible to just define the other one first
[22:05] <gabrielc> midwestward: some applications let you choose the source ip address, others do not, and apply some default
[22:06] <gabrielc> midwestward: you have ens3. and the name of the other interface?
[22:07] <midwestward> gabrielc: ens3:0
[22:07] <midwestward> auto ens3:0
[22:07] <midwestward> iface ens3:0 inet static
[22:08] <kenrin> That is the same interface dude
[22:08] <gabrielc> midwestward: what is the ip/mask/gateway for ens3:0?
[22:08] <midwestward> yeah ens3:0 is a static ip
[22:09] <midwestward> i suppose ens3 isn't static, but it is meant to not change. they're different. one is US, one is CA
[22:09] <gabrielc> midwestward: but tell me the ip address/mask/gateway of ens3:0
[22:10] <midwestward> http://dpaste.com/2KHMGQK
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> midwestward  read the 'firejail' man page, search for 'ip' or 'gateway'
[22:10] <midwestward> ok thanks
[22:14] <gabrielc> midwestward: are ens3 and ens3:0 on the same subnet?
[22:16] <midwestward> gabrielc: i don't know
[22:18] <gabrielc> midwestward: has both interfaces a default gateway?
[22:19] <midwestward> gabrielc: no gateway is configured for either
[22:20] <gabrielc> midwestward: and what about routes?
[22:22] <gabrielc> midwestward: you write "route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 dev eth0:1" is an attempt to setup a default gateway
[22:22] <gabrielc> s/write/wrote/
[22:23] <midwestward> gabrielc: yeah. i don't know a lot about networking as you may have noticed. here is the config file and result from ifconfig
[22:23] <midwestward> http://dpaste.com/3VKD7G7
[22:26] <gabrielc> midwestward: and the routes? netstat -nr
[22:26] <midwestward> Kernel IP routing table
[22:26] <midwestward> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
[22:26] <midwestward> 0.0.0.0         144.217.244.1   0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 ens3
[22:26] <midwestward> 144.217.244.1   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH        0 0          0 ens3
[22:27] <ipatrol> How can I install libavcodec55 even though it is no longer available in my version's repositories (assuming I've already checked it for conflicts)?
[22:31] <gabrielc> midwestward: and what is the need to make changes in that machine?
[22:32] <midwestward> the default IP is in quebec which is irritating for several reasons, the second is in the US
[22:32] <midwestward> gabrielc ^
[22:33] <tomreyn> ipatrol: you could install form source. why would you want to, though?
[22:34] <gabrielc> midwestward: want you to send out all traffic via us? or some traffic?
[22:34] <ipatrol> tomreyn: I actually figured out how to do it by downloading old .deb files from the repo website. As for why, the answer is because Audacity is broken all to hell, yet I still very much need it. I've been spending the last 3-4 hours getting it to work
[22:34] <ipatrol> I think I'm mostly there though
[22:35] <tgm4883> ipatrol: what about audacity is broken? Sounds like some bugs need filed
[22:35] <midwestward> gabrielc: everything is fine it seems easiest. i have no reason to use the quebecois ip
[22:35] <ipatrol> tgm4883: They have been. Years ago.
[22:35] <tgm4883> sad :(
[22:36] <ipatrol> The gist is that Ubuntu has gotten rid of libraries faster than the Audacity team has been able to make updates
[22:38] <ipatrol> So it appears for the last year or so it has not worked out-of-the-box on Debian or Ubuntu
[22:39] <tomreyn> ipatrol: are you referring to these packages? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=audacity
[22:39] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release version?
[22:39] <ipatrol> tomreyn: xenial
[22:40] <tomreyn> so if i install this package on this xenial system i have and try to play a file in audicity it will do what?
[22:40] <ipatrol> They compile properly, which is probably why no one has noticed in Canonical, but they crash instantly due to library version conflicts
[22:40] <ipatrol> tomreyn: it will fail to load and give you a terse, cryptic, and irrelevant log message
[22:41] <tomreyn> ipatrol: i'm on the main screen
[22:41] <tomreyn> amd64?
[22:41] <ipatrol> yes...
[22:41] <tomreyn> probably some other 3rd party libs you got get in the way
[22:41] <ipatrol> tomreyn: no, there are a lot of forum posts about it too
[22:42] <tgm4883> ipatrol: link?
[22:42] <tomreyn> tgm4883: link to what, a screenshot of audacity running on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[22:42] <ipatrol> one sec, closed out a lot of them
[22:42] <tgm4883> tomreyn: no, to the bug report/forum post that says it's broken
[22:43] <tomreyn> tgm4883: i'm not saying it's broken, you want to talk to ipatrol
[22:43] <tgm4883> tomreyn: I did...
[22:43] <tomreyn> tgm4883: lol sorry
[22:43] <tgm4883> :)
[22:43] <AndrewGazelka> hey
[22:44] <tomreyn> it's friday night...
[22:44] <tgm4883> tomreyn: I'm on your side here, I think it's 3rd party libraries. If something's truely broken, it would be reproducible
[22:44] <kostkon> ipatrol, works fine here, I can even export to a format provided by ffmpeg/libavcodec
[22:45] <kostkon> ipatrol, on xenial 64bit
[22:45] <ipatrol> kostkon: it works when recompiled from source
[22:45] <tgm4883> ipatrol: straight Ubuntu or a flavor?
[22:46] <ipatrol> tgm4883: flavor
[22:46] <tgm4883> ipatrol: which one
[22:46] <ipatrol> Studio
[22:46] <tgm4883> let me grab a studio ISO. You said 16.04 amd64?
[22:46] <tomreyn> ipatrol: try this script to list packages you have installed which are from a repository your system no longer knows about: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts
[22:47] <kostkon> ipatrol, studio uses jack along with pulse? that might complicate things a bit
[22:47] <ipatrol> tgm4883: core-9.20160110ubuntu5-amd64:core-9.20160110ubuntu5-noarch:security-9.20160110ubuntu5-amd64:security-9.20160110ubuntu5-noarch 17.04
[22:48] <ipatrol> tgm4883: also, http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Incorrect_wxWidgets_Version
[22:48] <tgm4883> sounds like missing dependencies maybe
[22:50] <ipatrol> tgm4883: I'm going to try to install the version from the repositories again and see if the twiddling I did in the meantime fixed anything
[22:50] <tgm4883> ipatrol: what is the output of 'lsb_release -r'
[22:51] <ipatrol> 17.04
[22:51] <tgm4883> ok
[22:51] <tgm4883> ipatrol: so not xenial then
[22:52] <ipatrol> sorry, I meant zesty
[22:52] <ipatrol> I mix up versions sometimes
[22:52] <tgm4883> That's kinda big difference, but I'm grabbing the zesty ISO anyway
[22:53] <ipatrol> tgm4883: "*** Error in `audacity': double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x00007fddd400c260 ***"
[22:54] <tgm4883> ipatrol: and you can't even open audacity right?
[22:54] <ipatrol> right, core dumps
[22:55] <tgm4883> ipatrol: fresh install or you updated something?
[22:55] <ipatrol> tgm4883: wait, I might be seeing some conflicts in the backtrace. Let me try removing some packages
[22:55] <tgm4883> ipatrol: it opens fine in the live session, I'm inclined to think it will open fine in the installed session as well
[22:57] <ipatrol> tgm4883: I think the conflict might be with lmms
[22:58] <tgm4883> ipatrol: why do you think that?
[22:58] <ipatrol> tgm4883: stack trace begins with /usr/lib/dssi/zynaddsubfx.so which apt-file says belongs to lmms, which I just installed
[22:59] <l2y> what is the difference between `status foo` and `service foo status`? what is the preferred way? why does only the latter work sometimes?
[22:59] <tgm4883> ipatrol: i'm installing ubuntu studio now, so I can test afterwards
[23:00] <tomreyn> ipatrol: can you show the output of "apt-get update ; apt-get -f install; apt-cache policy" (on a pastebin)?
[23:01] <arooni> this works amixer -D pulse sset Master 5%+ ;; but anyway to get the visual indicator of volume at same time / afterwards?
[23:01] <ipatrol> tgm4883: nope, removing lmms makes it stop core dumping, but it still fails to load and gives me a crash message
[23:02] <ipatrol> strangely, the crash log is actually blank
[23:04] <ipatrol> oh wait, it's all in the xml file
[23:04] <mundosegundo> hello, im having trouble finding a way to change the gnome login background in 16.04LTS
[23:04] <mundosegundo> can anyone help me?
[23:04] <tomreyn> tgm4883: i think you are wasting your time, but it's still kind of you. ;)
[23:04] <tgm4883> tomreyn: I'm waiting for an ELK reindex to complete, what else am I supposed to do ;)
[23:05] <mundosegundo> i really dont like that ubuntugnome logo down there
[23:05] <tomreyn> tgm4883: enjoy the sun, find the cure to cancer, write an opera, something like that
[23:05] <ipatrol> tomreyn: I can't write an opera without Audacity :-P
[23:06] <ipatrol> and it's raining out right now
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> ipatrol  Mozart didi it
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> did*
[23:06]  * tomreyn chuckles
[23:06] <ipatrol> yeah, but he picked all the low-hanging fruit already
[23:06] <tgm4883> ipatrol: fresh install of Ubuntu Studio 17.04 amd64 and audacity fires right up. I'd say the issue is your system
[23:07] <ipatrol> tgm4883: ok, amsynth, which is an lxstudio package, was causing the problem
[23:07]  * mundosegundo asks for help...
[23:07] <ipatrol> now let me see if I can still get lmms to play nice with it
[23:08] <tgm4883> ipatrol: just installed amsynth and I can still fire up audacity
[23:08] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: you'Re looking for a way to change the plymouth background image or theme
[23:09] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: i never did it but those terms should help searching for a solution
[23:09] <ipatrol> tgm4883: it was lxstudio's amsynth though
[23:09] <tgm4883> ipatrol: what is lxstudio?
[23:09] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: that is... unless you use the gnome login dameon / gnome desktop manager (gdm)
[23:10] <ipatrol> it's similar to Ubuntu Studio. I know mixing systems is usually a Very Bad Idea(tm), but there are some very useful programs that are only in lxstudio's repository
[23:10] <mundosegundo> i think plymouth is the boot animation but no its not that tomreyn its the background where you insert your password to log in, will that be the shell theme?
[23:10] <tgm4883> ipatrol: this is information you should offer up front
[23:10] <ipatrol> tgm4883: I wasn't even thinking about it
[23:11] <ipatrol> ok, it works with lmms
[23:11] <tgm4883> ipatrol: I mean, sure, we'd refuse to help you here for that or we'd tell you to remove the 3rd party packages, but I think you've proved that we have good reason for that
[23:11] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: you are right, plymouth just does the boot animation
[23:11] <tgm4883> Also, kudos to tomreyn for nailing the right answer 30 minutes ago
[23:12] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: lightdm
[23:12] <mundosegundo> what about the background image on the login screen?
[23:12] <ipatrol> tgm4883: once he said it worked on a fresh install, I was certain he was right too
[23:12] <oerheks> mundosegundo,  seems like you need to tweak and recompile https://askubuntu.com/questions/745411/how-to-change-login-screen-background-ubuntu-gnome-15-10 and see the debian https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/310923/how-to-customize-gnome-login-screen-in-debian
[23:12] <tomreyn> tgm4883: just a lucky hit ;)
[23:12] <ipatrol> tgm4883: I honestly forgot about the kxstudio repositories
[23:13] <tomreyn> ipatrol: i tired on 16.04 (xenial) though, not 17.04
[23:13] <mundosegundo> hate that "recompile" word but thank you very much oerheks
[23:13] <tgm4883> ok, I'm blowing up this VM I made
[23:13] <tomreyn> *tried
[23:13] <oerheks> mundosegundo, mne too, i thought it would be simple..
[23:13] <kLOs> Can anyone help me out how to determine the GPU Memory brand under linux?
[23:14] <kLOs> theres tools for windows, that show you the manufacturer name of the memory used in GPU but i have yet to figure this out in linux
[23:14] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: i think you can, however, replace the image file (which may only last until the package is updated, though)
[23:14] <ipatrol> also, I meant kxstudio, not lxstudio, I'm mixing desktop environments up @-(
[23:14] <mundosegundo> oerheks, yeah its too much work i will leave it as is its not worth the time..
[23:14] <mundosegundo> tomreyn, i wasnt able to find it
[23:15] <mundosegundo> that would be very easy xd
[23:15] <ipatrol> I'm not sure why amsynth was from kxstudio anyway, reinstalling it brought in the version from the mainline repo, which works fine with Audacity
[23:17] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: actually it looks like it can be configured in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_ubuntu.conf (on ubuntu 16.04 that is)
[23:18] <tgm4883> kLOs: I'm not aware of any way to do that, but it would help if you stated what GPU you had
[23:18] <kLOs> tgm4883: it's a geforce gtx 1060
[23:18] <kLOs> i thought there might be some way with lshw or sthg to just dump the raw values
[23:19] <kLOs> and maybe they can be somehwo then translated to the vendor name via some research
[23:19] <oerheks> kLOs, even dmidecode does not show gpu memory brand, sorry :-(
[23:19] <kLOs> thanks oerheks
[23:22] <oerheks> also google-chrome does not detect it with:  about:gpu
[23:23] <tgm4883> none of the nvidia utilities seem to show it
[23:23] <tomreyn> nor does lspci -knnv
[23:24] <kLOs> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/385604/determine-the-gpu-memory-vendor-name-under-linux
[23:24] <kLOs> i added a topic on stackechange
[23:25] <kLOs> thanks guys
[23:25] <troy1> Anyone have any ideas how to get weechat to start on boot in the background on Ubuntu? I created a weechat.service using tmux. Let me link it http://paste.ubuntu.com/25293473/
[23:25] <troy1> I put this in /etc/systemd/system/weechat.service and did a sudo systemctl enable weechat.service
[23:25] <tgm4883> kLOs: here's someone asking about the exact same thing, unfortunately get's a bad answer https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1018512/linux/memory-brand-type/
[23:27] <mundosegundo> tomreyn, i dont have that directory
[23:28] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: you don't have /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/ ?
[23:28] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: which ubuntu release are you on?
[23:29] <tgm4883> shouldn't mundosegundo be looking for GDM stuff?
[23:30] <tomreyn> only if he runs gdm
[23:31] <tgm4883> tomreyn: it's ubuntu gnome
[23:31] <tomreyn> you're right
[23:32] <tomreyn> i should go to bed ;)
[23:34] <mundosegundo> tomreyn, lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d no
[23:34] <mundosegundo> ubuntu 16.04LTS
[23:34] <mundosegundo> i think tgm4883 is right
[23:34] <tomreyn> mundosegundo: yes he is, sorry, you need top look at gdm, not lightdm
[23:35] <kLOs> thanks tgm4883 what a jerk the guy in that thread
[23:35] <tgm4883> kLOs: I thought so too. And he's supposedly a "Linux and Open Source Advocate"
[23:36] <mundosegundo> its ok, but dont worry about it its too much work for something i will once every boot, even in lock its diferent
[23:36] <tgm4883> kLOs: just another reason to not buy nvidia I suppose
[23:38] <mundosegundo> thank you all for the help