[02:47] <EpicCyndaquil> drab: I found out it's an issue with Ubuntu somehow, as I don't have this issue with debian. Really weird.
[09:24] <darksifer> Hi everyone. I am using samba as Domain Controller. Everything works but I cannot deploy printers using the Print Management from Administrative Tools. I get the error "failed to query for the list of group policy objects linked to this container." It worked only once. No changes were made. I have been looking for a solution since yesterday. Kindly help please. Thank you.
[10:06] <arunpyasi> Hello everyone, what may be the reason that I can send the mail to local email address which are hosted in same server but cannot send to the internet ? I have 25 port open too, I can telnet
[10:08] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: your mail servers' logs should tell.
[10:18] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, it says its not resolving..
[10:21] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, this is what I see : 2017-08-13 10:04:57 1dgmWC-0000Wp-5P == info@domain.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
[10:21] <arunpyasi> in the log
[10:34] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: sorry, i missed your reply. looks like it's either that your mail server has dns lookup issues or there just is no dns record on the internet for the given destination addresses' domain part.
[10:35] <tomreyn> i assume "info@domain.com" is not the actual destination address, but the one it said there is the one you need to examine.
[10:40] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, naa, they are valid emails..
[10:44] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: well domain.com does have an MX address. your mailserver apparently fails to determine this, which hints at a local DNS configuration issue.
[10:44] <tomreyn> *DNS lookup
[10:45] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, the thing is, I tested on multiple email addresses.
[10:45] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, @gmail.com, @domain1.com, etc..
[10:45] <tomreyn> and the result was?
[10:45] <arunpyasi> but emails are sent only to @domain.com
[10:47] <tomreyn> are you saying that you submitted, through your local mail server, e-mail addressed to users at gmail.com and at domain1.com, and that your mail server rerouted these to users at domain.com?
[10:48] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: ^ to clarify: by "users" i mean user parts of email addresses
[10:51] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, no, I said that.. mail from @domain.com goes to @domain.com but doesn't go to @gmail.com or @domain1.com
[10:51] <arunpyasi> I mean, internal mails work, but internal mails doesn't
[10:52] <arunpyasi> hope I am clear
[10:52] <tomreyn> i'm afraid not so.
[10:53] <oerheks> port 25? long time not used for mail
[10:54] <tomreyn> not for outbound mail at least
[11:27] <Vladimirski> issues installing proxmox-ve getting "cannot find dependencies..."
[11:27] <Vladimirski> Anyone had any issues with proxmox?
[11:28] <tomreyn> Vladimirski: no polls please. provide details if you are looking for a solution ot a specific issue.
[11:28] <tomreyn> proxmox is not in ubuntu (so not officially suppoorted here)
[11:33] <Vladimirski> alright
[11:33] <Vladimirski> thanks
[11:55] <tomreyn> btw i sent lutostag an e-mail about this yesterday...
[17:49] <sammyg> unable to locate package apache-utils
[17:49] <sammyg> how to resolve this?
[17:51] <tomreyn> sammyg: what makes you think it shoudl exist?
[17:51] <sammyg> was using apt-get to install
[17:52] <sammyg> sudo apt-get
[17:52] <sammyg> sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache2-utils
[17:52] <sammyg> E: unable to bla bla
[17:53] <sammyg> tomreyn, what is this prefix E?
[17:53] <tomreyn> E as in Error
[17:53] <tomreyn> the bla bla is probably important
[17:54] <sammyg> E: unable to locate package apache-utils
[17:54] <sammyg> but it found apache2
[17:54] <tomreyn> the above command cannot have produced this message
[17:56] <sammyg> what makes you say that?
[17:56] <sammyg> oh wait a second
[17:56] <sammyg> i mistyped it :p
[17:57] <sammyg> sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache-utils
[17:57] <sammyg> lol
[18:00] <sammyg> why set keepalive to off?
[18:01] <sammyg> allow persistent connection or not to?
[19:25] <tomreyn> which open source CMDB and ITAM software would you recommend? i'm looking for something less technically experienced users can use to create a hardware + software / (proprietary software) license inventory
[19:27] <drab> tomreyn: welcome to one of my personal hells
[19:29] <tomreyn> not the type of reply i was hoping for ;)(
[19:29] <tomreyn> u should probably have asked in offtopic, too.
[19:30] <drab> ime that's ok, I have a hard time finding any channel with ppl with a clue about server related stuff so I often just abuse here and hope for the best :)
[19:30] <drab> tomreyn: I've spent more nights than I care to admit trying and testin FLOSS CMDBs and ITAM stuff and all I can have to show for it is a 5 gallon bucket of tears
[19:31] <drab> however I'm also in a sort of unique situation, so it may be easier for you
[19:32] <drab> first off, you mentioned CMDB, but then it seemed more about inventory stuff
[19:33] <drab> tomreyn: could you elaborate on what you're after? just listing hw you own and sw installed on it?
[19:33] <drab> what OSs does it have to work on? do you need appliances to be integrated with it too? how important is outodiscovery for you?
[19:34] <tomreyn> drab: i'm trying to help a small organization (35 people) get a little bit of a clue about their hardware, software and their dependencies.
[19:34] <tomreyn> next stage would be to add a little risk assessment on top.
[19:35] <tomreyn> it's really a plain field, nothing has been done yet, it's tabula rasa, copmeplete chaos. so nothing to migrate. i'm even considering to start with a spread sheet
[19:35] <Ergo> hello, im trying to disable PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames on ubuntu 16.04.3, passing net.ifnames=0 to kernel doesnt seem to help, eth0 is not created i get no network , doing "ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link" doesnt seem to be work for me either
[19:35] <Ergo> any hints?
[19:36] <Ergo> i was reading https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[19:36] <tomreyn> drab: of course they have no budget so i'm just thinking about how to help them create that inventory themselves.
[19:36] <drab> tomreyn: ok, I'm actually in a very similar situation, NGO work, no budget, no clue, etc
[19:37] <tomreyn> drab: okay and what's your current plan there?
[19:37] <Ussat> tomreyn, You may or may not like this answer, but when I was at a small org, we used MS Access for that
[19:37] <drab> tomreyn: first thing I did was indeed a google doc ssheet, and made up some tabs for them to fill out. It actually worked okish, main problem was place is a little bigger with a lot more turnout and things didn't get updated
[19:38] <Ussat> ok, I mean drab
[19:38] <tomreyn> Ergo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/689070/network-interface-name-changes-after-update-to-15-10-udev-changes
[19:38] <drab> tomreyn: the next thing I looked at, which I liked quite a bit, was yourcmdb.org
[19:39] <drab> the reason for that is that I also wanted some api to query the data to run ansible and stuff
[19:39] <tomreyn> Ussat: i don't dislike it, there's also LibreOffice Calc, could use that as well. Or just the spreadsheet, not much of a difference to me.
[19:39] <drab> for me things like cmdbuild were completely out of the door, it's stuff for large enterprises
[19:39] <Ergo> tomreyn: can  you be more specific? I googled a bit - I need this for VM images, so I don
[19:40] <drab> tomreyn: yourcmdb has a nice frontend and works pretty nicely yet it's simple and the codebase small enough that it's ok to fiddle with
[19:40] <Ergo> so i dont think i should check mac adresses and assign them in files
[19:41] <Ussat> Ergo, why are you wanting to disable that ? What issue are you trying to solve ?
[19:41] <drab> tomreyn: the other part of the puzzle is if you want sort of autoupdate with a client agent, for that there's https://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/en/
[19:41] <drab> but for me that was too much/not needed and it doesn't account for other bits and bobs so I decided against it, at least for the time being
[19:42] <Ergo> Ussat: im creating VM's that will work with various providers, there are some scripts there (and iptables rules) that depend on eth0 being present by default
[19:42] <tomreyn> drab: thanks. ocsinventory-ng is indeed on my list. i didn't know yourcmdb, thanks for the hint.
[19:43] <drab> for yourcmdb, the main issue is how much you hate xml and/or php
[19:43] <Ergo> i remember passing net.ifnames=0 to kernel fixed this to me in 16.04 but 16.04.3 seems to boot with no network at all
[19:43] <tomreyn> drab: but for now i really think just a simple spread sheet their staff should fill is a good thing to start with.
[19:43] <Ergo> only lo is present
[19:43] <tomreyn> Ergo: i'm sorry, i have no details, i never did it, am happy with the new naming scheme.
[19:44] <drab> tomreyn: if you're a ruby person you may want to take a look at http://cartoque.org/ , that also came up in my search
[19:44] <oerheks> Ergo, maybe you need the 2nd part too GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[19:45] <drab> Ergo: net.ifnames=0 works for me, I do that in several places, but I also have biosdevname=0
[19:45] <tomreyn> drab: do you know this, i just found it and it looks ok, if more of a helpdesk self-management tool https://snipeitapp.com/
[19:45] <drab> I forgot if both were needed
[19:45] <Ergo> oerheks: yeah that worked before, im trying to see when it stopped working
[19:45] <Ergo> right now if i pass that the VM boots only with "lo" interface, and im sure it worked before
[19:46] <drab> what's in /etc/network/interfaces ? if it's still listing the predictable name that's why
[19:46] <Ergo> moving down from 16.04.3 to 16.04.1 to see if there is difference
[19:46] <drab> Ergo: do you see anythihg with ifconfig -a ?
[19:46] <Ergo> drab: (already killed the vm), i did change enc3 to eth0 in interfaces
[19:46] <drab> tomreyn: that's new to me, looks nice
[19:46] <oerheks> or with systemd, see the last part: https://askubuntu.com/a/628504
[19:46] <Ergo> ifup -a just printed a message that it cant bring it up :(
[19:46] <drab> tomreyn: the other thing lots of ppl recommended me is spiceworks
[19:47] <drab> to also avoid managing another service on premise
[19:48] <tomreyn> drab: i heard of it. these very folks are looking for on premise, though, do not have a cloud mind set. more of birkc + mortar folks. ;)
[19:48] <tomreyn> *brick
[19:50] <drab> tomreyn: another couple on my radar I didn't get to try: https://github.com/bugcy013/Inventory
[19:51] <tomreyn> oh wait i mixed that up, spiceworks is not cloud based apparently
[19:51] <drab> tomreyn: it can be
[19:51] <tomreyn> https://github.com/bugcy013/Inventory looks dead
[19:52] <tomreyn> i know + like device42, however
[19:53] <drab> so one of my fav tools in the space is this: http://ralph.allegro.tech/
[19:53] <drab> the only thing is, it's very DC oriented
[19:53] <sammyg> what kind of file is libapache2-mod-php? is it binary?
[19:53] <drab> tomreyn: and people just had too much trouble with it mentally
[19:54] <tomreyn> yes that's what i just thought. for DC foklks this is possibly a fine choice
[19:54] <drab> sammyg: not sure what you mean with that
[19:54] <drab> it's a .so apache loads
[19:54] <drab> it's binary like the apache binary...
[19:55] <drab> tomreyn: snapit actually looks pretty neat...
[19:56] <sammyg> don't want to crash if i try to open it in nano
[19:56] <tomreyn> drab: i think so. it look a bit similar to ralph, but less DC'ish, more suited for the generic office with plenty of workstations.
[19:57] <sammyg> just want to know what version this php mod is
[19:57] <sammyg> i got one *php, *php7.0, and *php7.0-fpm
[19:57] <sammyg> can nano open .so files? binary files?
[19:58] <drab> I don't think opening is the way to answer that question
[19:58] <drab> but if anything you can try to use the "head" command
[19:58] <drab> dpkg -S libapache2-mod-php.so or whatever it's called, and it should tell you which pkg it came from
[19:58] <drab> dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php might help too
[19:59] <drab> looks like 7.0+35ubuntu6
[19:59] <drab> depending on php7
[20:00] <drab> anyway, brb
[20:01] <tomreyn> drab: would you be able to share the table column heading for the spreadsheet you used initially?
[20:01] <tomreyn> s/column heading/column names/
[20:02] <drab> of course, but I suspect you're not gonna like it :P
[20:03] <drab> I have a table for interfaces linked from the devices table, because laptops for example have wifi + wired and I needed to track that
[20:03] <tomreyn> drab: because? too many?
[20:03] <drab> manual input to that isn't the prettiest, I had some seriously trained monkeys doing that
[20:03] <tomreyn> oh, ok
[20:04] <tomreyn> i wont have too much time to train monkeys, sadly
[20:04] <drab> still, happy to share what I have if you'd like
[20:04] <tomreyn> happily!
[20:04] <drab> how would you like to receive the pkg?
[20:04] <drab> shall I put a .csv column export somewhere?
[20:04] <tomreyn> you could upload somewhere, or send mail to my irc nick @megaglest.org
[20:05] <drab> ok
[20:05] <tomreyn> yes, just a csv would be great. thank you.
[20:05] <drab> tomreyn: will do, mind if it takes me a while? haven't eaten yet and have something scheduled for most of the afternoon
[20:05] <tomreyn> drab: take your time! :)
[20:06] <drab> cool, off I go then, ttyl
[20:06] <tomreyn> i wont work more on this tonight
[20:06] <tomreyn> thanks again, ttyl
[21:56] <Ergo> drab, tomreyn i fixed my problem, i needed to do it like this: https://paste.ofcode.org/KyEryTRRrA2tuM2ft6WGhN
[22:16] <tomreyn> glad you solved it!