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aloo_shubazhang, if you op, op well. SkyLord12345 is not here for ubuntu related questions00:01
niceGuy00i want to clone SSD with win7 on it to another SSD using live ubuntu usb how to do it? target SSD is smaller than source SSD00:01
niceGuy00anyone?00:01
willdeberry@niceGuy00 first idea that comes to mind would be to use dd, but that will do a complete byte for byte duplication00:02
niceGuy00willdeberry, that i dont want00:03
aloo_shuniceGuy00 first of all, defragment the win disk00:03
niceGuy00should i resize00:03
niceGuy00using kde partition edit00:03
aloo_shuafter defrag00:03
geniidd_rescue can do sparse images, but there needs to be less data on the partition than space on the smaller drive00:04
aloo_shutricky. resize will shrink the win partition so that it fits onto 2nd disk00:04
aloo_shuif possible, but resizing has a minimal risk, so you want a backup FIRST00:05
aloo_shuevacuate some important files, defrag, boot win 2 times for ntfs integriy check00:06
aloo_shuthen format/partition the new-smaller disk so that there is a partition where the rsesized original partition fits00:08
aloo_shuI don't know the kde tool, gparted can do all this very well and is usually present on live media00:10
aloo_shugparted would also allow you to clone/copy a partition from a gui00:11
tomreyndckx_: that's good news :)00:11
tomreynenjoy your new ubuntusystem then!00:11
tomreyndckx_: by the way, if your computer is not too old / slow and you don't need to run graphically demanding stuff in Windows then I'd recommend to move the Windows installation into a Virtualbox VM and just boot into Ubuntu all the time. It's a lot more comfortable than dual-booting.00:13
tomreynAnd I assume people around here or in #ubuntu-offtopic might help you with the migration (I would).00:14
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dckx_tomreyn: thanks for the suggestion, I think I might do what you say, although I already have windwows 10 installed. I'm planning on goin almost 100% ubuntu within the next year or two, so going from dual-booting to a VM sounds like necessary step00:21
tomreynwilldeberry: there is also #launchpad00:22
tomreynalso #ubuntu-devel00:22
willdeberryawesome! much appreciated00:23
tomreyndckx_: you can convert the existing windows 10 installation into a VM when you feel like it. it's not super easy if you haven't done it before, but it should work (so no need to reinstall).00:24
dckx_tomreyn: gotta give my daughter a bath, what you say sounds good, will learn more about it00:25
tomreyndepending on how flexible windows is nowadays, you may even be able to run it both as a VM under ubuntu and as a bare metal (dual boot) system, but i never tried that.00:25
tomreyndckx_: good luck not getting too wet then! here's something you could read up on later https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html00:27
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willdeberrycould just interact with the bare metal partition directly if you create the VMWare raw disk image pointed to a specific partition or drive00:29
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willdeberryi've used an entire disk that way in the past, not sure about partitions, but sounds neat :)00:29
tomreynpartitions works, too, at leas twith virtualbox00:30
willdeberrynice to know.00:31
willdeberryi had fun with that back in the day on esxi00:31
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mmarconmany one using ubuntu 16 for ltsp fat client ?00:49
SkyLord12345anybody - send me a PM, please00:50
SkyLord12345Hello! Good night01:08
mmarconmHello ! good night01:09
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SkyLord12345Hello01:12
SkyLord12345mmarconm - what is your Ubuntu version?01:12
mmarconmSkyLord12345: 1601:13
SkyLord12345and are you using DE or WM ?01:13
mmarconmSkyLord12345: both, gnome-flashback and xmonad01:14
SkyLord12345i use fluxbox01:15
mmarconmcool, openbox its a good shoot too01:15
SkyLord12345I have 3 GB ROM! But use fluxbox)))01:18
SkyLord12345strange?01:19
SkyLord12345How speed-up Ubuntu ?01:20
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SkyLord12345Top - this command?01:21
SkyLord12345I need to know - what processes are lazy my computer01:21
SkyLord12345Does anybody know?01:23
SkyLord12345are we sleeping?)))01:31
aloo_shuSkyLord12345: it IS not ubuntu, but you can get or even make all sorts of Puppy Linux based on various ubuntu (and other) distros. Very small, runs from a pendrive, in RAM, and is a good school for 'trimming fat' as they put it, removing unnecessary stuff and get a fast OS01:47
yoginthhow to become ubuntu member?03:33
yoginthand i need @ubuntu.com email03:33
yoginthit seems difficult to get one03:33
demonxian3?03:36
demonxian3nobody?03:36
yoginthim here03:36
demonxian3alright03:36
Bashing-omyoginth: It takes a lot of want to and some bit of time : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/ .03:36
yoginthI read this but it is difficult to apply to boards!03:37
yoginthwhere is the form to apply membership to boards?03:37
Flannelyoginth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember walks you through the entire process03:38
Bashing-omyoginth: The operative is " sustained contributions " .03:38
Flannelyoginth: Also, please take additional questions to #ubuntu-offtopic.  Obtaining membership isn't technical support, and is offtopic here.  Thanks!03:39
BlackDalekCan I use cheese webcam booth to connect to wireless webcams? If so, how? I see no option to enter a network address in cheese's options.03:57
tonyyarussoBlackDalek: Probably not unless you can do some other sort of magic to make it "appear" as a local device.03:59
tonyyarusso!info gmotionlive | BlackDalek Maybe this would do what you need?04:00
ubottuBlackDalek Maybe this would do what you need?: gmotionlive (source: gmotionlive): Simple multipart/x-mixed-replace viewer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0-3 (zesty), package size 8 kB, installed size 49 kB04:01
fraktorkostkon: So I tried a few different things, and it turns out that there was an error message flashing briefly into the screen that said "error: file '/boot/' not found." How can I repair my installation media?04:10
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madmanonmedsoerhecks: thank you your advice helped yesterday04:31
madmanonmedsBlueKaj: thank you for your help yesterday the package manager is not installed by default on ubuntu this was a fresh install, I have installed it since.04:36
madmanonmedsis ubuntu using systemmd04:40
bexhello05:02
bexi need to reinstall ubuntu but i want to be very careful i dont erase my files that are also on the same disk https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0i7fuby0ndo7ye/Screenshot%20from%202017-08-07%2004-30-26.png?dl=005:02
madmanonmedsbex: do you have free space05:05
skymalloops05:06
skymallgrumble05:06
skymallcan you give me a ring at 802-242-4707 thanks05:06
skymallgrumble05:06
SwedeMikeskymall: do you expect someone here to call you?05:08
bexnot in that list, no05:08
madmanonmedsyou don't have any free space05:10
madmanonmedsdo you have another drive05:15
bexwhat would happen if i formatted that swap partition?05:15
bex13 gb05:15
bexi dont know what its for05:15
bexoh maybe i can find an extra one05:16
lazarus_zedMaybe you misconfigured disk partition size before.05:18
madmanonmedsI may have jumped in over my head, I can not tell you fact05:18
madmanonmedsI looked at the screen shot and I have never seen that configuration05:22
madmanonmedslazarus_zed: did you look at the screen shot05:24
EpicCyndaquilis there a way to run apt-get over https?05:24
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, sure thing! https://askubuntu.com/questions/146108/how-to-use-https-with-apt-get05:28
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, basically, just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to https urls05:29
EpicCyndaquilthe official mirror appears to not support https. Can you suggest one that does?05:33
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, it looks like Canonical doesn't have any official ones, however there are https mirrors - https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3q53kc/list_of_ubuntu_repository_mirrors_available_over/05:37
madmanonmedsbex: you could in fact delete the swap partition and install there but you will need to make a smaller swap partition05:39
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, though, why do you want https? Everything I'm reading says it's probably not necessary because apt already signs and encrypts.05:39
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, Unless you just want it to be the same sort of blob as any other https traffic, for profiling reasons?05:40
EpicCyndaquilso I'm getting hash sum mismatches when downloading ubuntu packages, even from different mirrors, so I'm thinking my ISP has some kind of weird cache, and hoping https will get around it05:44
bexwhen i did "update-initramfs -c -k all" i got the following errors:05:45
bex"depmod: error: bad version passed version"05:45
bex"missing /lib/modules/version"05:45
bex"ensure all necessary drivers are built into the linux image"05:45
leaftypeah...05:47
madmanonmedsbex:sorry I can't help05:48
bexok05:48
madmanonmedssomeone else can though so stay05:50
EpicCyndaquilleaftype: so I've tried 3 https hosts so far, and they're all failing... any other step besides adding them to sources.list?05:51
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, no, not according to the link I showed you. However, for hash mismatch I found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-packages-list-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error/05:53
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, You said you assumed basically this, did you try deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/* , and then apt-get update?05:56
EpicCyndaquilleaftype: I've tried literally everything on that page05:56
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, ah damn05:56
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leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, maybe it's because we both have pokemon names, but I'm out of ideas.05:59
EpicCyndaquiltrust me, I am too.06:01
EpicCyndaquilI think this has been going on for over a month, I'm clueless06:02
leaftypeEpicCyndaquil, a month? How often do ISP's keep their cache06:03
EpicCyndaquilno idea, it's super strange06:05
madmanonmedsbex:what do you think about deleting the swap partition and letting ubuntu install there06:34
madmanonmedsthat may not be the best idea but it is the only one I have06:35
madmanonmedsany body else06:36
NokajiI seem to recall there is a change in 17.04 ... e.g. "In fresh installations of 17.04 we have a swap file instead of a swap partition"06:39
madmanonmedsNokaji: from the screen shot he is in 16.0406:42
Nokajino doubt ... just sharing my singular thought on the subject06:44
Nokaji... soemthing to do with modern PCs having so much memory that it becomes almost obsolete06:44
Nokajiaccording to " free -h", I'm using 69M out of an available 15G06:46
madmanonmedsyes the swap partition is almost obsolete, but if is not there and the operating system needs it, it could hang06:49
ddellavyes, imo you should always have like 1g of swap just in case06:57
ddellavbecause otherwise if your system runs out of ram things just start crashing06:58
ddellavand its easy to add swap without making a partition06:58
ddellavdd if=/dev/zero of=/swap bs=1M count=102406:58
ddellavmkswap /swap06:58
ddellavchmod 600 /swap06:58
ddellavswapon /swap06:58
ddellavthats part of a script that i run on every VPS06:59
ddellavsince they usually don't have any swap06:59
Nokajiddellav: I was looking up the possibility of using a swap file instead of swap space on any/earlier version; you beat me to it :)07:00
ddellavafaik that works on pretty much every version of linux07:01
ddellavi've used it since debian 7 days07:01
madmanonmedsthe problem is he has no free space to reinstall07:02
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bexci think i'm just gonna reinstall to a different drive07:07
arunpyasiHello everyone, what may be the reason that I can send the mail to local email address which are hosted in same server but cannot send to the internet ? I have 25 port open too, I can telnet07:09
Nokajimadmanonmeds: I wonderd what the problem was, I just scrolled back - maybe bex needs to do some temporary archiving to free up space07:12
madmanonmedsthat is what i asked earlier if you had another drive to install there then copy the files to that drive07:13
madmanonmedsNokaji: he did an update and things didn't go right07:15
madmanonmedsso it messed up his kernel07:16
madmanonmedsnow he is trying to save his system by reinstalling07:17
ddellavah, yea, in the future i always tell people to use /home as a separate partition to make re-install easy07:19
Nokajimadmanonmeds: Understood; that's exactly what I did last week - I moved stuff from one partition to another and back after, obviously I had some space. He'd need a DVD or USB stick etc but if you guys can't figure it out, I'm just a newb07:19
Nokajimaybe he can archive some stuff to reduce it in size07:19
madmanonmedsbut if he don't how archive he can't, I don't know how07:21
Bashing-ombex: madmanonmeds :: check the condition of the kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' and where the space is consumed ' df -h ; df -i ' ??07:22
Nokajiarchive as in compress/ zip07:22
madmanonmedsI never ran into this condition, I always make some extra partitions07:24
madmanonmedsI have never seen that command07:26
Nokajimaybe there is studd that can be deleted, some temp files or duplicates - something has to give07:26
NokajistuFF07:26
madmanonmedsbex:you still on here07:28
CoderEuropeHow do I see the logs of a gui error when using ubuntu ?07:31
arunpyasiHello everyone, what may be the reason that I can send the mail to local email address which are hosted in same server but cannot send to the internet ? I have 25 port open too, I can telnet07:34
madmanonmedsbashing-om: Nokaji: some of us are complete newb and then there are the graphical users, they don't know07:35
bexyea07:37
madmanonmedsyea what07:37
bexi'm still here but i already shut it down07:37
madmanonmedswhere you running live from the disk07:38
madmanonmedsoops left or out07:38
Bashing-ommadmanonmeds: We were all new at one time . We all learn - everyday .07:39
bexi was running a live version from a usb stick07:39
madmanonmedsyea but i am not a hacker, or anything like that.07:40
lotuspsychjearunpyasi: ubuntu-server?07:43
Bashing-ombex: madmanonmeds 'buntu is always fixable, given time and effort and a liveDVD. If ya want to restore the install I will return in about 12 hours .07:49
lotuspsychjeCoderEurope: gui error of what exactly07:49
arunpyasilotuspsychje, yes, its ubuntu server07:49
madmanonmedswell you are ahead of me bex07:49
lotuspsychjearunpyasi: maybe better luck solving in #ubuntu-server? those guys are used to this07:50
arunpyasilotuspsychje, its 16.0407:50
CoderEuropelotuspsychje, of a program called lollipop - I am getting errors - Where are the error logs ?07:51
lotuspsychjearunpyasi: router of firewall can block outgoing traffic?07:51
arunpyasilotuspsychje, ohh.. but the ports get open right !07:51
arunpyasithe traffic is blocked !07:51
lotuspsychjearunpyasi: have you tryed nmapping yourself external to see whats open or filtered?07:51
arunpyasilotuspsychje, I tried to telnet07:52
arunpyasilotuspsychje, 25 and 465, they worked fine.07:52
marvinjoin777hey all I was wondering if I could get help with installing ubuntu 16.04 on my new XPS 15. Whenever I go to install ubunutu from the GRUB menu it shows load menu then just hangs07:53
lotuspsychjeCoderEurope: how did you install lollipop?07:53
CoderEuropelotuspsychje, cant remember.07:57
CoderEuropedo I get to know where the error logs are , err , now ?07:57
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lotuspsychjeCoderEurope: lollypop seems like not supported in ubuntu repos08:07
lotuspsychjemarvinjoin777: wich iso did you use? 16.04, 16.04.1 or .2 or .3?08:08
marvinjoin77716.04.308:08
lotuspsychjemarvinjoin777: perhaps try a lower iso as a test? or the !nomodeset option08:09
marvinjoin777i was about to try the !nomodeset option08:09
lotuspsychjemarvinjoin777: might be a too new kernel thing also08:09
marvinjoin777ill be back to see how it works, wish me luck08:09
marvinjoin777i see08:09
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial08:10
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.91.96 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB08:10
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | marvinjoin77708:10
ubottumarvinjoin777: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:10
lotuspsychjeCoderEurope: all logs are gathered in /var/log/...08:11
lotuspsychjebbl08:12
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BlackDalekcan someone help me build a deb package of this emulator here - https://github.com/ColinPitrat/caprice32/blob/master/INSTALL.md08:17
BlackDalekI have got copy from github using git clone, but don't know how to get all the prerequisites nor how to actually start the build or what I enter into "make VERSION=<my_version_string>"08:20
BlackDalekwhat is <my_version_string> ?08:21
CoderEurope!nomir08:58
ubottufor more information about why Mir will not be included as default in ubuntu 13.10 see http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/10/01/xmir-update-for-ubuntu-13-10/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/13.10/NoDefaultQ%26A08:58
oerheks:-D09:02
NoMiddle_Hello, I've got to change group permission and group owner to /dev/vmnet8 on ubuntu 17.04. How can I fix them at boot?09:16
tomreynbetter find out why you need to change them at all09:17
tomreynare they not created properly in the first place, if so, why?09:17
tomreynis the user trying to access it not in the right groups?09:18
tomreynNoMiddle_: ^09:18
NoMiddle_tomreyn: yes, he couldn't because this /dev/vmnet8 has 0400 with group and ower root09:31
NoMiddle_I need to do that to use promiscous mode with esxi on vmware-workstation09:34
tomreynNoMiddle_: then i'd say: look into how the device is created and modify that.09:36
tomreynyou may want to turn to a vmware support channel for further support (vmware is not in ubuntu)09:37
NoMiddle_But I ask to fix permission, not support for vmware09:37
BlackDalekcan someone help me build a deb package of this emulator here - https://github.com/ColinPitrat/caprice32/blob/master/INSTALL.md09:45
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yoginthhello10:36
yoginth_wazzup10:37
cfhowlettubuntu support channel here, yoginth.10:39
yoginthwhat is the channel for no technical?10:39
cfhowlett!ot | yoginth10:40
ubottuyoginth: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:40
yoginthhow can i use IRC?10:42
cfhowlettyou ARE using it10:43
yoginthwhen i close the window every messages were destroyed!10:43
bazhangyoginth, try #freenode10:43
yoginthhow can i stay here like slack10:43
yoginthyeah im in freenode10:43
bazhangthe channel yoginth10:43
bazhang /join #freenode yoginth10:43
tomreynthis slack is broken!10:49
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_BIGSHOT_17.04 - there is screen tearing in dual monitor setup how to fix it?11:20
_BIGSHOT_intel nuc11:20
ninstaahHello, to get intel wireless firmware, I install linux-firmware-nonfree, right?11:21
MilongaHello! Has anyone had problems with the display not being recognised by X and therefore reverting to some default resolution?11:22
tomreynninstaah: linux-firmware, ubuntu is not debian11:23
tomreynninstaah: but there are more packages you might need. depends on your hardware.11:24
tomreyni.e. get the PCI / USB ID11:24
tomreynMilonga: no polls please. provide details if you are looking for a solution ot a specific issue.11:25
tomreyn_BIGSHOT_: whic kkernel module is it using? i915?11:25
_BIGSHOT_tomreyn: how to find it out? it is intel integrated graphics with intel nuc11:28
ninstaahtomreyn: oh, I am sorry - that linux-firmware package is installed (latest) and yet not wifi. How do I track down what wifi card is in it?11:28
MilongaRight, sorry, strange wording on my behalf. I'm looking for a solution, yes. X server is not supposed to need an xorg.conf file anymore right? I looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and it loaded some generic display settings from the xorg.conf, so I removed it.11:30
tomreyn_BIGSHOT_: sudo lspci -k | grep -A 8 VGA | grep Kernel | head -n111:31
_BIGSHOT_tomreyn: Kernel driver in use: i91511:31
MilongaWith no xorg.conf, the log said it didn't recognise my display or something?11:31
tomreynninstaah: sudo lspci -nn | grep -i net; sudo lsusb | grep -i net11:32
tomreynMilonga: for basic operation with most hardware (suing open source drivers), you do not need to supply xorg.conf, that's correct.11:33
ninstaahtomreyn: seems like I only see my normal nic (00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-V [8086:1559] (rev 04)11:34
tomreynMilonga: which hardware do you have there, and which ubuntu release?11:34
_BIGSHOT_tomreyn: ?11:35
tomreyn_BIGSHOT_: try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Tear-free_video and (maybe) https://askubuntu.com/questions/764302/screen-tearing-on-kubuntu-16-04-with-intel-drivers11:35
tomreyn_BIGSHOT_: which ubuntu release is it?11:36
Milongatomreyn: I'm looking at a Samsung SyncMaster 940bw plus, and I'm using ubuntu studio, which might technically not be official?11:36
tomreynMilonga: ubuntu studio is supported here. which graphics card?11:37
_BIGSHOT_tomreyn: it is kubuntu 17.0411:37
Milongatomreyn: I'm using an Nvidia Quadro 400011:37
tomreyn_BIGSHOT_: okay, then i have no furhter suggestions11:38
tomreynMilonga: this command should tell you which driver is in use right now: sudo lspci -k | grep -A 8 VGA | grep Kernel | head -n111:40
tomreynMilonga: that's probably 'nouveau', but it could also be nvidia.11:40
MilongaI'm using Nvidia's proprietary driver11:41
tomreynMilonga: which ubuntu release are you on? lsb_release -sd11:41
tomreynninstaah: sorry, i missed your reply. did you try botht eh lspic and the lsusb commoands?11:42
Milongatomreyn: 16.04.3 LTS11:42
tomreyn* both the11:42
tomreyn* both the lspci and the lsusb command11:43
ninstaahtomreyn: yeah - it's an Intel NUC.11:43
tomreynMilonga: sudo lspci -nn | grep -i VGA11:43
tomreynninstaah: can you post the output of 'sudo lsusb; sudo lspci -knn' to a pastebin, please?11:44
tomreyn!pastebin | ninstaah11:44
ubottuninstaah: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:44
Milongatomreyn: NVIDIA Corporation GF100GL [Quadro 4000] [10de:06dd] (rev a3)11:44
ninstaahtomreyn: sure, https://pastebin.com/J0gGw8DW11:45
tomreynMilonga: can you confirm that running "sudo lspci -k | grep -A 8 VGA | grep Kernel | head -n1" returns "Kernel driver in use: nvidia"?11:46
ninstaahtomreyn: sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25304217/11:46
MilongaIt sure does11:46
Milongatomreyn: or rather, "Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau"11:48
tomreynninstaah: hmm i'm not sure which one of these would be the wireless really. can you show 'lsmod' as well? and maybe run 'sudo update-pciids' and 'sudo update-usbids' and then re-run the lspci and lsusb commands i provided earlier (and show their outputs again)11:51
ninstaahtomreyn: thanks - I am on it :)11:52
tomreynMilonga: okay i don't think you're using the proprietary drivers then. if you want to use the proprietary ones you can install them using "ubuntu-drivers" on the command line or "additional drivers" from your desktop menu11:53
tomreynMilonga: the easiest way to get to the graphical configuration utility is maybe to enter this in a terminal:  /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk --open-tab=411:54
tomreynMilonga: maybe show a screenshot of what it says there11:55
Milongaright, I'll give it a shot11:55
Milongatomreyn: by the way, I used Nvidia's own installer for the driver.11:56
tomreynMilonga: maybe thats why it doesnt work ;)11:57
Milonga:)11:57
tomreynMilonga: if you want to dig deeper, also look at /var/log/Xorg.*.log (only those files that were written to today, use "ls -l /var/log/Xorg.*.log" to find out) and look for lines saying 'EE' or 'WW'11:59
Milongatomreyn: The graphical configuration utility said I was using nouveau, so I switched just now to Nvidia's latest12:00
tomreynMilonga: okay, you'll need to reboot then. if it doesn't work and you end up without a graphical desktop, do you know how to recover?12:01
Milongatomreyn: I can google it on my phone if it comes to that12:01
tomreynMilonga: either that or you could connect your phone to the chat and ask, or both. good luck.12:02
ninstaahtomreyn: I did what you adviced (here is lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25304303/ ) - running the lspci and lsusb only gave me the other NIC (cable)12:04
tomreynninstaah: hmm you have the iwlwifi kernel module (driver) loaded, this is a wireless driver. can you check which device uses it ("Kernel driver in use : iwfwifi") in "lspci -knn" output?12:07
ninstaahtomreyn: It is not loaded12:08
ninstaahtomreyn: I did a modprobe on it earlier, that might be the reason its loaded?12:08
Milongatomreyn: There we go! The resolution is back to normal. Thanks a million!12:08
ninstaahtomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25304328/12:10
tomreynninstaah: yes, since 'cmoprobe X' loads kernel module 'X' that's probably why it is loaded ;)12:10
tomreynninstaah: yes, since 'modprobe X' loads kernel module 'X' that's probably why it is loaded ;)12:10
ninstaahtomreyn: right, sorry for misleading you a bit ;)12:12
tomreynMilonga: welcome ;)12:13
tomreynninstaah: that's okay, i could have asked12:13
SkyLord12345Hello!/window 112:13
tomreynninstaah: so you ran the update-... commands i pointe dout?12:13
ninstaahyeah, snapshot thingy and usb update12:13
tomreynninstaah: can i see the lsusb and lspci -knnv outouts again then?12:13
ninstaahsure sure12:14
ninstaahtomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25304342/12:14
tomreynninstaah: i'm not sure whether this is the very hardware you have (i bet there are several different intel NUCs with different components requiring different drivers) but the generic hint for a firmware update might be a good one:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/651462/wifi-connection-not-working-with-intel-nuc-wireless-ac-762012:15
tomreyni guess your wireless hides behind "00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 [8086:9c3a] (rev 04)"12:17
ninstaahtomreyn: right, but I dont understand what the point of your link is?12:18
tomreynninstaah: i'm suggesting to follow the instructions provided there to carry out a firmware upgrade, then reboot, which may help linux detect the right hardware12:18
tomreynninstaah: actually, there are no instructions for upgrading the bios there, it just says that you should, sorry12:19
ninstaahtomreyn: oh, no problem at all12:20
tomreynso, yes, other than pointing this out the link was mostly useless12:20
ninstaahThe BIOS is updated and this fine little NUC have had CentOS, Proxmox (ubuntu?) and Win8 on it without problems.12:21
tomreynninstaah: so wireless worked on centos ?12:21
ninstaahtomreyn: I appreciate your efforts12:22
ninstaahYeah12:22
ninstaah7.3 minimal12:22
tomreynninstaah: which ubuntu release do you have installed ther enow?12:22
ninstaah17.0412:22
ninstaahbudgie12:22
tomreyn(sorry if i asked before)12:22
ninstaahtomreyn: no worries, I just appriciate your help12:24
tomreyncan you try to find out the exact NUC model?12:24
tomreynthat would enable us to check its specifications, which would enable us to identify the correct driver12:24
ninstaahtomreyn:  D34010WYK12:25
ninstaahno12:25
tomreyn"no"?12:25
ninstaahI will take a screwdriver and check what card I put in the nuc12:25
ninstaahIt's not a premade/bundle12:25
tomreynoh its an addon-card, ok. also, you can check /var/log/syslog for any messages regarding the wifi12:26
tomreynmaybe what you installed there is just not compatible12:27
ninstaahtomreyn: Someone has stolen my wifi, lol!12:31
tomreynthe latest bios version for this discontinued intel product is WYLPT10H.86A version 004512:31
tomreynninstaah: that might explain why it's not detected by ubuntu12:31
tomreynmaybe try centos again? ;)12:31
ninstaahhaha, well It had a wifi card back then12:32
ninstaahIt was used for a dev/lab task at work - someone might needed a wifi card for a laptop or whatever12:32
tomreyni trust you there. so you're using this like an IoT device and leave it unattended in thepublic?12:32
tomreyni see12:33
ninstaahOh well, I am very sorry about wasting your time12:33
ninstaahHopefully I provided you with a good laugh ;)12:33
tomreynit's okay ;)12:33
tomreynyou sure did! a relieving laugh, too12:33
arun007!help12:34
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:34
ninstaahtomreyn: Yeah, me too actually - thank you so much anyway and have a great day! I'm out :)12:36
tomreynyou, too12:36
SkyLord12345Oh, from mornini today i have sex with notify-osd. Install old-style notification-daemon which parse html, but where is setting for position?13:15
BluesKajHiyas all13:24
harutHi14:28
harutHi, I'm having trouble with background apps showing up in the panel on Ubuntu 17.0414:29
harutPushbullet, Gmail notifyer etc. are apparently working but the icon doesn't appear14:29
harutnm there's a workaround14:31
MonkeyDustharut  glad i could help14:31
harutdo you have a better workaround besides the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP thing?14:32
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CarlFKI am sshed into a box.  I need it's display on to test it's hdmi output.  how do I wake up the screen saver ?14:50
MonkeyDustCarlFK  try with 'xdotool' ... xdotool click 1 (that's the number one, not the letter l)14:53
madmanonmedsI have ubuntu on a m5a99fx asus motherboard and the boot time is bad slow how do you check your hardware, the drivers15:01
CarlFKMonkeyDust: command not found - what package is it in?15:01
geirha!info xdotool15:03
ubottuxdotool (source: xdotool): simulate (generate) X11 keyboard/mouse input events. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.20160805.1-3 (zesty), package size 41 kB, installed size 119 kB15:03
CarlFKgeirha: thanks .. I'll swear I tried that...15:04
MonkeyDustCarlFK  sudo apt install xdotool15:05
MonkeyDustmadmanonmeds  try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25305275/15:06
madmanonmedsinvalid option on sudo15:14
madmanonmedsI don't know15:14
MonkeyDustmadmanonmeds  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue15:15
madmanonmedsno file or directory15:17
gabrielcmadmanonmeds: lsb_release -a15:18
madmanonmedsgabrielc: in the terminal15:19
gabrielcmadmanonmeds: yes15:19
madmanonmedsno command lsb found15:21
MonkeyDustmadmanonmeds  mind the underscore _15:21
MonkeyDustmadmanonmeds  it's lsb_release -a15:22
madmanonmedsok15:22
madmanonmedsno lsb modules are available15:24
SkyLord12345cat /etc/lsb-release15:24
MonkeyDustmadmanonmeds  never used the terminal before?15:25
madmanonmedsno such file or directory15:26
madmanonmedsnot much15:26
ikoniathen reinstall15:26
ikoniaif you are missing all these files - your OS is not a solid ubuntu install15:26
madmanonmedsok i figured that much15:27
madmanonmedsI am not that used to the terminal, graphical user15:28
SkyLord12345Welcome to CLI word!15:29
SkyLord12345world15:29
madmanonmedscli?15:29
SkyLord12345command line interface15:30
madmanonmedswell I have it up next to hexchat15:30
madmanonmedsI need the pdf up also on CLI15:31
SkyLord12345use man pages. Type in console - man ls15:32
SkyLord12345man mc15:32
SkyLord12345type letter q to exit from man15:32
madmanonmedsman mc doesn't have a entry15:35
ikoniaI suspect you don't have mc installed15:36
ikoniaor the fact that you're missing other key files, your machine may have a broken install15:36
madmanonmedswhat is it15:36
ikoniahence "re-install"15:36
ikoniamc = midnight commander, a shell driven file manager15:36
madmanonmedswell I have 14.04 on another selection in boot up, but that is the disk i have,will need to download a new one15:38
madmanonmedsanybody know how to boot a second installed system beside the current running one15:40
ikoniayou need to reboot and either a.) boot from the disk with the other system on it b.) use grub to select the other install15:41
madmanonmedsno that is not what i wanted, I want to boot patation magic next to ubuntu15:42
ikoniayou don't want to use partition magic15:42
ikoniawhat are you trying to achieve ?15:42
madmanonmedsto stay on line while I wipe drive a15:43
ikoniais drive a holding your current install ?15:44
NeepuHi. is there any software, equivilant to this in the linux world? https://github.com/kaklakariada/portmapper15:44
ikoniaNeepu: what is it ?15:44
madmanonmedsno that is in sdb15:44
ikoniamadmanonmeds: then install gparted15:45
ikoniaor at worst use the command line if possible15:45
BluesKajparttion magic is dangerous15:45
ikoniabut again - your OS is probably broken, so use a livecd15:45
madmanonmedsoh I could make a mess then15:45
MonkeyDustmadmanonmeds  sometimes it's better to start over, rather than trying to repair things ... make you sure you have backups15:47
madmanonmedsthanks I will have to quit, download, burn, wipe, partition, and install bye for a while.15:48
madmanonmedsoh I almost forgot backup15:49
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madmanonmedsbackup backup16:07
arunkumar413Do we have a gui based utility to install Ubuntu on USB stick16:09
ikoniaarunkumar413: usb stick is just a hard disk16:12
mdhdo you need a full install or just live-cd mode from USB?16:15
ikoniathere is no "livecd mode"16:15
ikoniayou can insall how you see fit16:15
arunkumar413Full install16:17
ikoniathen do a full install16:18
ikoniajust be aware it will not perform as well as a hard disk16:18
madmanonmedstime to reboot16:22
madmanonmedsbye for the rest of the day16:22
fraktorSo I still cannot boot from the USB media I'm trying to make. I've used a couple different burners, and I still get the error message that says "error: file '/boot/' not found."16:29
tomreynfraktor: chances are your downloaded image is corrupt16:34
tomreyn!md516:34
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:34
obadzto update from 14.04 → 16.04, is it sufficient to put in the right entries in sources.list and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?16:35
tomreynobadz: the official answer to this question is "no, use do-release-upgrade"16:36
geirhaobadz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.1016:36
obadzdo-release-upgrade is crashing, and I'm helping a friend remotely16:37
obadzhe's getting these errors: https://askubuntu.com/questions/905481/not-getting-updates-from-update-manager-ubuntu-14-04/90562916:37
fraktortomreyn: The hash matches up.16:38
obadzwhat will happen if he does dist-upgrade rather than do-release-upgrade?16:38
melodieis there someone talking/reading german here, who could tell me what a german review says : about a printer brand Epson, model EcoTank ET-4550? Here is the link, I'm very much interested to buy one (I can possibly get the VAT back + the 3 years warranty that's promoted until next year). Here is the link : http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Artikel/Print-Artikel/LinuxUser/2016/01/Buero-Tanker16:39
melodie(and hello!)16:40
melodiedarn Hexchat didn't register my nick and password, so I missed my first entry and fell into "#ubuntu-unregistered" :-[16:40
tomreynobadz: dist-upgrade with unmodified sources.list is fine. with modifuied sources.list it's a problem., it would be much better to fix the problems he has now before trying to do a release upgrade.16:41
obadzmelodie: google translate?16:41
tomreynobadz: alternatively, he could ijust do a new install of 16.0416:41
obadztomreyn: 'unmodified' ?16:41
fraktorPerhaps it's worth mentioning that I'm booting in UEFI mode, since I actually can't change to Legacy boot.16:42
tomreynobadz: unmodified, as in: all APT sources pointing to trusty16:42
melodieobadz, I try Translate Google, but, you know how unreliable?16:42
melodieobadz, a German user would be better to tell me if they say it works fine under a linux box16:43
obadztomreyn: right, if I regenate a fresh sources.list with everything pointing to xenial using https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php, shouldn't that work?16:43
MonkeyDust!de16:44
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!16:44
melodieif I land in a German chan I won't be able to write in German. This helps not16:45
tomreynobadz: work, how? i already stated that the only supported upgrade-mechanism is do-release-upgrade.16:48
obadztomreyn: this mechanism tells him his computer is up to date16:48
MonkeyDustmelodie  maybe they are willing to answer in english16:49
melodieMonkeyDust, ok, I can give it a try, thanks16:49
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tomreynobadz: i'm sorry but i don't like to support by proxy, it's already complicated enough to explain things to people directly. if you could get the person here i'll be happy to help.16:51
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DbuggerHi hi17:13
aloo_shuHo ho17:16
aloo_shuerrrh, my weak point.I had my mum (or others) singing it out whenever there was no way around sheet music17:21
aloo_shusorry, wrong cat tab17:21
aloo_shuchat tab17:21
aloo_shugone17:21
yrmyHow do I add an icon for my bash script on the launch bar? It currently is only a question mark.17:38
gabrielcyrmy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles17:41
spearman17hi I have a question regarding installing opencv on ubuntu 17.04 (because a code I am trying to run requires cv2). I have downloaded the opencv-2.4.9.tar.gz and unpackaged it. I have also run cmake on it. what should I do next to complete my installation?18:13
tomreynspearman17: you probably want to run 'make' to build the binaries from source code. i would not install this way, though.18:19
ikoniaspearman17: why would you not have read the install instructions18:21
yrmyI managed to add a icon to a program, but when I run it starts in another window and appears to not have an icon (question mark).18:21
ikoniaand why would you not use the ubuntu package ?18:21
fuserIs it possible to "apt search" for two strings, both of which should be in the name of the package?18:42
MonkeyDustfuser  try with two grep's in the search18:43
fuserMonkeyDust: do you mean to pipe to grep?18:44
tomreynfuser: apt-cache search --names-only '(something|somethingelse).*(something|somethingelse)'18:45
MonkeyDustfuser  yes, but rather use one string and one grep18:45
fuseralright18:45
tomreynoh it's actually even easier. you can provide multiple arguments which are AND combined18:51
tomreynso this works fine: apt-cache search --names-only 'somethingelse' 'something'18:51
tomreynorder doe snot matter18:51
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lordlHi! Could you help me with something? I am trying to connect to a SSH server through an executable file written in C. It is using libssh-0.1. The source code has a function from libssh-0.1 named "ssh_getopt" and I have a problem with it. When I try to execute I get this error message: "/usr/sbin/sshd: symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/sshd: undefined symbol: ssh_getopt". How can I define that symbol?20:19
MonkeyDustlordl  i guess that question is more for a C channel20:21
lordlMonkeyDust, okay.20:21
sammygdo ssh clients support pasting?20:24
oerheksctrl + shift  + V perhaps?20:24
oerheksas in gnome-terminal20:24
fraktorIf you middle-click, it should just type that into the terminal, which would work over SSH. (I think.)20:26
sammygthis depends on the client or?20:26
oerheksyes, depends on the client i guess20:26
sammygnever mind, found it20:26
sammygit's right click20:27
oerheksoke, no short-key?20:27
sammygno, i'm using putty20:28
sammyg"putty's copy and paste works entirely with the mouse"20:28
oerheksit is good practice to mention putty right away, next time...20:29
sammygyeah sorry about that, thanks though, oerheks20:31
oerhekshave fun!20:31
sammygis this where i put my web files in? /var/www?20:35
sammyghtml, css, js, php, etc?20:35
oerheksYes, that would be the 1st logical place.20:36
Braden`Hello!  I am using LibreOffice 5, and I am having a hard time getting my bullet points to appear the same size.  Has anyone ever encountered this problem?  I Google'd it (yes, as a verb), and it showed multiple methods of which none worked for me.  I would either end up with a bullet too big or too small (default bullets).  I need a size inbtetween.  Does anyone know how to accomplish this?20:56
oerheksBraden`, you might want to reask in #libreoffice too21:04
oerheksnot sure what answer you got, Format>bullets & numbering (menu) should be the place to set that, but i don't see how?21:08
oerhekshttps://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Adding_Bullets21:09
[n0mad]i don't really ever use it but i opened a doc and added a bullet list and they were all the same size21:10
oerheksThere was an issue with saving as .odt or .doc , but that is fixed21:10
smallfoot-Why am I left with an old, outdated, insecure web browser?21:11
oerheksthe libreoffice guys can surely answer this21:11
smallfoot-I am using Firefox 54 and it contains security vulnerabilites21:11
smallfoot-and Ubuntu have not given me the update to Firefox 5521:11
oerhekssmallfoot-, firefox will be ready, soon.. it is just released, 3 days?21:11
smallfoot-what should do I do now that my Ubuntu system is open to hackers and terrorists?21:11
smallfoot-no its been released August 821:12
smallfoot-its been well more than 3 days21:12
oerheksand it is holidaytime, so be patient. ( or join the firefox build team? )21:15
gabrielcsmallfoot-: shut it down and disconnect it from the energy?21:16
hggdhsmallfoot-: (1) restrict your usage; (2) disable javascript and java (if enabled); (3) do not go to unknown sites; (4) keep doing that even after upgrade21:16
oerheksor skip FF 55, go straight to 56 :-D21:18
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next21:18
oerhekshmm lots of updates, chromium and a kernel..4.10.0.3221:24
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wombat140Hello  :-)21:47
glitsj16Hi wombat21:48
wombat140I'm having trouble with changing a mouse cursor.  Anyone able to help?21:48
wombat140if you wouldn't mind.21:49
oerheksunity-tweak-tool is a handy tool for that, changing mousecursors and such21:50
wombat140You need to get a special tool just to change the cursor?  :-|21:51
oerhekswombat140, yes?21:52
wombat140I thought I'd found out how to do it, but it hasn't worked right.   :-P21:53
oerheksyou *could* do it manually, but that requires logout/login AFAIK, see http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-New-Cursor-Themes-in-Ubuntu-466821.shtml21:54
oerheksor in terminal: sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme21:55
oerheksbut that gives no example preview21:55
wombat140Oh, I'm sorry, I've only just realised that I'm not supposed to be in here.21:57
wombat140I thought t was for Ubuntu in general.  It's hard to see the message from the Join Channel list.21:58
wombat140probably the answer mightn't even be the same in Zorin anyway.22:01
wombat140Thanks for trying, anyway!22:02
wombat140(the trouble was that I did do it manually, by excatly that method, but it's only showing the new cursor when the mouse is on the desktop and sometimes not then - in a window, it goes back to the old one.)22:04
wombat140(very odd.)22:05
glitsj16wombat140: probably you need to set the cursor theme for X as well, isn't all that odd..22:06
oerhekssudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme # this should work for you too22:07
wombat140Ah!  I'll try that.  I haven't yet understood what themes are, I have to admit.22:07
oerhekstry it, you can always cancel it with ctrl + c22:08
wombat140Is that what ctrl+c does?  I noticed it's not how you copy text in the terminal.22:09
wombat140(excuse ignorance, I've only had Linux since Thursday!)22:10
wombat140...Hmm.  It's not on the list; neither are a lot of the other folders in /usr/share/icons, although they definitely do contain cursors and I can't see any differnece between them and the ones that do appear.  Why might that be?22:21
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Baronesany linux tool to create topology network diagram?22:35
kk4ewtdia??22:37
kk4ewt\22:37
nemoBarones: yeh, what he said22:38
nemoBarones: searched on a whim, and looks like some madman out there used graphviz22:39
nemohttps://itsecworks.com/2012/03/16/networking-topology-with-graphviz/22:40
Baronesthanks, I'll check dia out22:40
nemoI've definitely used graphviz for tons of automated graphs, like the insanity that is our interdependencies in Hedgewars22:40
nemobut never thought to try that ☺22:40
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wombat140Anyone on the cursor themes question?  Can update-alternatives only display up to 7 options, or something?22:57
oerheksthat command gives all available cursor thems, ask in #zorin?22:59
oerhekszorin has its own issues i guess22:59
wombat140#ZorinOS has been deserted all day.  Just have to wait for someone to reply on their forum, I suppose.  Thanks for the help, I've learned something new, anyway!23:02
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KiickiHi, I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.0.3 and updated everything. I shared my "downloads" folder using samba. I made it writable and readable. I have another PC that runs Windows 10. I try to map the "downloads" folder to my Windows 10 which works, but it's not writable. I cannot edit or add anything. Is there something I forgot to do in Linux or is this a Windows issue? I also made it so everyone can access it23:28
Kiickiwith samba.23:28
betamarinehey can anyone read this?23:45
Svetahi yes betamarine :)23:46
betamarinethanks Sveta !23:46
Svetano worries betamarine :)23:47
KiickiI'm sure that Samba worked flawless before. Like 2 months ago probably. I gave it another shot today and "writable" just doesn't work23:49
metalbikercan anybody tell me why i'm not able to install gnome tweaks yet? i've been trying to install it for a while and it keeps saying that it can't find the repositories. i'm really missing my extensions.23:59

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