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BluesKajHowdy all10:59
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ducassehi all11:49
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ducassehi BluesKaj - everything well?11:59
ducasse4 more days until the dark tower premiere - happy-happy, joy-joy!12:03
BluesKajfine here ducasse, and you?12:03
ducasseall well :) thinking about going out and do some yard work while the weather is good.12:05
BluesKajnow that the rain has stopped, and the lawn is finally dry I can finally mow the grass , it's very shaggy after a week of rain12:08
ducassethe forecast says 3+ days of nonstop rain are coming up, so it's probably a good idea to do it now12:11
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nicomachusanyone wanna do me a favor?17:59
nicomachusLooking for anyone that has -old-dkms kernel files in /boot, and need to know which version of Ubuntu is removing them and which isn't (if any)18:00
nicomachusThere are some interesting things going on... background here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/616512/purging-old-kernels-fails-to-remove-old-initrd-files/647311?noredirect=1#comment1503157_647311 in that first reply and the comments on it. I am @portugalthephilosoph there18:01
Bashing-omnicomachus: Think'n . /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal introduced with the 3.13 kernel ??18:07
Bashing-omnicomachus: Nope, vivid : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/apt/vivid/revision/193/debian/apt.conf.autoremove#debian/apt.conf.autoremove .18:10
nicomachusBashing-om: I'm not sure, the fix to remove those files was supposedly not in dkms version 2.2.0.3-1.1, which is the current version for xenial.18:11
nicomachusBashing-om: that still doesn't seem to handle the old-dkms files.18:12
Bashing-omnicomachus: I would not try to appky it to older kernels . I do not have any idea of all the hooks that the scripts call when autoremove is invoked .18:13
Bashing-omnicomachus: ' dpkg -l dkms ' >> 2.2.0.3-2ubu all in updated xenial .18:15
nicomachushmmm... 'dpkg -l dkms' here gives 'dpkg-query: no packages found matching dkms'. that's nice.18:16
nicomachusand 'dkms --version' gives: The program 'dkms' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing sudo apt install dkms18:18
nicomachuswhat18:18
nicomachusnow I'm really confused.18:18
Bashing-omnicomachus: Depending on what needs dkms ( display drivers ! ), might be good to install the dkms package .18:22
nicomachusI'm just wondering how I don't have it... and when that happened.18:25
nicomachusI know I did at one point.18:25
Bashing-omnicomachus: Hosed up nvidia driver install ?18:25
nicomachusNo nvidia drivers on this laptop.... just integrated intel graphics. My home HTPC, which also no longer has the dkms package, is running the radeon driver.18:27
Bashing-omnicomachus: Maybe now it is a nvidia requiremnt only ?? see: ' spt show dkms ' . Strange here that Dell owns the rights ? " Homepage: http://linux.dell.com/dkms" wow ?18:32
daftykinsO_O18:32
BluesKajBashing-om, https://github.com/dell/dkms/blob/master/dkms18:47
BluesKajinteresting that it can be freely distributed and mofified under the free software foundation, almost seems like a contradiction when there's a copyright on it18:50
nicomachusBashing-om: yea, I'm on a Dell laptop though. So I figured it would be kinda necessary here....18:51
Bashing-omnicomachus: Let me go back and look at your post . I will say that I have a 3.19 kernel that is installed in 17.04 ( upgrade) that autoremove will not touch .18:54
nicomachusBashing-om: I deleted a few comments there with logs and added that dkms was removed my machines at some point.18:55
Bashing-omnicomachus: In BluesKaj's link is a hint as to why " Requires bash 3 or above." .18:58
nicomachusLOL, this is interesting: https://askubuntu.com/questions/938606/dwarf-fortress-starting-during-apt-get-upgrade18:59
daftykins:>19:03
Bashing-omnicomachus: I can buy thge 'df' explanation . As I say I have no idea of all the hooks that are called; but for sure all have to be valid ones .19:08
nicomachusI just love that someone actually came up with a solution to explain it.19:09
daftykinsit is quite impressive to connect the dots19:10
daftykinsand also shows a knowledge of just how lazy users are19:10
Bashing-omdaftykins: But, only inquiring minds want to know :)19:13
oerhekscan one call this a vulnerability?19:27
oerheksthis is just 1 example, df19:27
daftykinsnah, everything can be alias'd wrong and cause drama19:28
oerheksis an alias check part of clamav?19:29
daftykinsno idea :>19:30
daftykinsall AV is a joke :D19:30
oerheksif not run from a live-iso, sure.19:31
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