=== kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar [05:56] good morning to all [07:11] Good morning === enick_997 is now known as lordievader [07:51] morning all [07:55] Hey EriC^^ [07:55] How are you doing? [07:55] lordievader: hey, good thanks, you? [07:56] Doing allright here :) [07:56] :) [10:59] Howdy all [11:07] Hey BluesKaj [11:07] How are you doing? [11:07] Hi lordievader, fine here, and you? [11:07] Doing good here :) [11:49] hi all [11:54] hey ducasse [11:59] hi BluesKaj - everything well? [12:03] 4 more days until the dark tower premiere - happy-happy, joy-joy! [12:03] fine here ducasse, and you? [12:05] all well :) thinking about going out and do some yard work while the weather is good. [12:08] now that the rain has stopped, and the lawn is finally dry I can finally mow the grass , it's very shaggy after a week of rain [12:11] the forecast says 3+ days of nonstop rain are coming up, so it's probably a good idea to do it now [12:13] going out, bbl === JanC is now known as Guest47969 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [17:59] anyone wanna do me a favor? [18:00] Looking for anyone that has -old-dkms kernel files in /boot, and need to know which version of Ubuntu is removing them and which isn't (if any) [18:01] There are some interesting things going on... background here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/616512/purging-old-kernels-fails-to-remove-old-initrd-files/647311?noredirect=1#comment1503157_647311 in that first reply and the comments on it. I am @portugalthephilosoph there [18:07] nicomachus: Think'n . /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal introduced with the 3.13 kernel ?? [18:10] nicomachus: Nope, vivid : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/apt/vivid/revision/193/debian/apt.conf.autoremove#debian/apt.conf.autoremove . [18:11] Bashing-om: I'm not sure, the fix to remove those files was supposedly not in dkms version 2.2.0.3-1.1, which is the current version for xenial. [18:12] Bashing-om: that still doesn't seem to handle the old-dkms files. [18:13] nicomachus: I would not try to appky it to older kernels . I do not have any idea of all the hooks that the scripts call when autoremove is invoked . [18:15] nicomachus: ' dpkg -l dkms ' >> 2.2.0.3-2ubu all in updated xenial . [18:16] hmmm... 'dpkg -l dkms' here gives 'dpkg-query: no packages found matching dkms'. that's nice. [18:18] and 'dkms --version' gives: The program 'dkms' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing sudo apt install dkms [18:18] what [18:18] now I'm really confused. [18:22] nicomachus: Depending on what needs dkms ( display drivers ! ), might be good to install the dkms package . [18:25] I'm just wondering how I don't have it... and when that happened. [18:25] I know I did at one point. [18:25] nicomachus: Hosed up nvidia driver install ? [18:27] No nvidia drivers on this laptop.... just integrated intel graphics. My home HTPC, which also no longer has the dkms package, is running the radeon driver. [18:32] nicomachus: Maybe now it is a nvidia requiremnt only ?? see: ' spt show dkms ' . Strange here that Dell owns the rights ? " Homepage: http://linux.dell.com/dkms" wow ? [18:32] O_O [18:47] Bashing-om, https://github.com/dell/dkms/blob/master/dkms [18:50] interesting that it can be freely distributed and mofified under the free software foundation, almost seems like a contradiction when there's a copyright on it [18:51] Bashing-om: yea, I'm on a Dell laptop though. So I figured it would be kinda necessary here.... [18:54] nicomachus: Let me go back and look at your post . I will say that I have a 3.19 kernel that is installed in 17.04 ( upgrade) that autoremove will not touch . [18:55] Bashing-om: I deleted a few comments there with logs and added that dkms was removed my machines at some point. [18:58] nicomachus: In BluesKaj's link is a hint as to why " Requires bash 3 or above." . [18:59] LOL, this is interesting: https://askubuntu.com/questions/938606/dwarf-fortress-starting-during-apt-get-upgrade [19:03] :> [19:08] nicomachus: I can buy thge 'df' explanation . As I say I have no idea of all the hooks that are called; but for sure all have to be valid ones . [19:09] I just love that someone actually came up with a solution to explain it. [19:10] it is quite impressive to connect the dots [19:10] and also shows a knowledge of just how lazy users are [19:13] daftykins: But, only inquiring minds want to know :) [19:27] can one call this a vulnerability? [19:27] this is just 1 example, df [19:28] nah, everything can be alias'd wrong and cause drama [19:29] is an alias check part of clamav? [19:30] no idea :> [19:30] all AV is a joke :D [19:31] if not run from a live-iso, sure. === lordievader is now known as Guest15252