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sheikianyone from balkan? *02:00
yoginthhello03:19
yoginthi need to get @ubuntu.com email03:21
tsimonq2yoginth: Why?03:21
yoginthas im a contributer in ubuntu03:22
tsimonq2yoginth_: Check out this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership03:23
yoginthi have already checked out03:23
yoginthbut i cant find any application form for that!03:23
tsimonq2yoginth: How long have you been contributing to Ubuntu?03:24
yoginth7 months03:24
tsimonq2yoginth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember03:24
yoginthdo u have an ubuntu email?03:25
tsimonq2Yes I do.03:26
yoginthplease tell me the procedures!03:26
tsimonq2yoginth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember03:27
yoginthi cand find the form there!03:27
yoginthhow can i contact the council boards?03:27
tsimonq2yoginth: There is no form. You prepare a wiki page, you describe your work contributing to Ubuntu for the past 7 months, you get endorsements from people who have witnessed your work, you put your name on the agenda for the next meeting and attend the meeting. That is the only way.03:28
tsimonq2s/witnessed your work/worked with you/03:29
yoginthi cant create the wiki first03:29
yoginththere is no permission for me03:29
tsimonq2yoginth: Apply here and wait to be approved: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors03:30
yoginthhow can i put my name to agenda?03:31
tsimonq2yoginth: Read the wiki page I linked you to.03:32
yoginththanks03:34
tsimonq2You're welcome.03:34
tyhickshello16:30
mdeslaur\o16:30
tyhicks#startmeeting16:30
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug 14 16:30:24 2017 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:30
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tyhicksThe meeting agenda can be found at:16:30
tyhicks[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting16:30
tyhicks[TOPIC] Announcements16:30
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tyhicksSimon Quigley (tsimonq2) provided debdiffs for trusty-zesty for vlc (LP: #1709420)16:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1709420 in vlc (Ubuntu) "[CVE] flac: Fix heap write overflow on frame format change" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170942016:30
tyhicksSimon Quigley (tsimonq2) provided debdiffs for trusty-zesty for menu-cache (LP: #1703564)16:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1703564 in menu-cache (Ubuntu Zesty) "[CVE] Socket may be blocked by another user" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170356416:30
tyhicksThank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)16:30
tyhicks[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report16:30
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tyhicksjdstrand: you're up16:30
tsimonq2:D16:31
jdstrandLast week's work is now being captured in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/WeeklyReports so I'll typically not report on that here any more.16:31
jdstrandThis week I plan to focus on:16:31
jdstrand- finishing my part of the wayland work. This is close to done and the wayland interface is already committed to master, but I'd like to add a spread test, finish my sway investigation, incorporate some snappy xdg-open changes and verify the new wayland-cursor in artful16:31
jdstrand- finish desktop and accessibility PRs (respond to feedback, finalize services to expose, etc)16:31
jdstrand- when investigating wayland-cursor for snapd, update apparmor to fix evince crash on startup in 17.1016:31
jdstrand- be responsive to snappy PRs (in particular, Solus distro support, 'Using udev tagging for snap interfaces' and related refactoring PRs, portals PR if it comes in, layouts PRs, race-free profile generation next steps, dbus session services, etc)16:31
jdstrand- add an execstack check (with advice on how to fix) to the review tools (this has come up 3 times in the last month)16:31
jdstrand- try to push forward the open questions regarding snappy users/groups (including privilege dropping) with nie meyer as have time16:31
jdstrand- add systemd-notify interface as have time (request from Chipaca)16:31
jdstrandthat's it from me. mdeslaur, you're up16:31
mdeslaurI'm on bug triage this week16:31
mdeslaurand I'm currently working on postgresql updates16:31
mdeslaurI have a couple of updates in the ppa that I've been putting off testing for a while, I should probably get to them16:32
mdeslaurafter that, I'll go down the list, as usual16:32
mdeslaurthat's about it16:32
mdeslaursbeattie: you're up16:32
tyhicksI'll hop in and we'll come back to sbeattie16:34
tyhicksnow that the seccomp kernel patches look like they're on the path to landing, I will finish my libseccomp patch set and submit the PR16:35
tyhicksstill need to get to review pam_fscrypt16:35
tyhicksupload fscrypt to the archive once the 32 bit architecture FTBFS issue is sorted out upstream16:36
tyhicksthat's probably all I'm goign to get to this week as I have a short week (off Thurs and Fri)16:36
tyhicksjjohansen: you're up16:36
* sbeattie can jump in16:37
tyhicksgo ahea16:37
sbeattieI'm on cve triage this week16:37
sbeattieI'll likely have an openjdk-7 update from td aitx to test and publish16:38
sbeattieI'll pick up more updates from the list16:38
sbeattieI also have some backlogged apparmor and qrt stuff to look at.16:38
sbeattiethat's it for me.16:39
tyhicksjjohansen: go ahead if you're around16:39
jjohansenI am working on upstreaming apparmor, I have a few more minor patches/cleanups to finish before sending out the next pull request16:39
jjohansenand then I need to get back to finishing up the typesplitting work16:39
jjohansenI suppose I also need to finish booking my travel for the ralley and uh need to give some feedback to Casey on the LSM stacking patches16:40
jjohansenthat is it for me sarnold you're up16:40
sarnoldI'm in the happy place this week; I'll be reviewing apparmor patches if john wants it, working on MIRs (pcp at the moment), and booking travel16:41
sarnoldthat's it for me, ratliff?16:41
chrisccoulsonI'm here16:41
ratliffgo ahead chrisccoulson16:41
chrisccoulsonShort week for me - I'm off on holiday at the end of the week. I need to get Firefox 55.0.1 published (later today), and then I'll be spending time on the rust 1.19 updates16:42
chrisccoulsonalthough it looks like I'll be doing another firefox update16:42
chrisccoulsonthat's me done16:42
ratliffI'm in the happy place this week16:43
ratliffI made good progress on kpis last week. I have a few more charts to create with the data that we already have on hand.16:44
ratliffThen I need to document everything and check the scripts into UCT. After that, we need a couple more kpis but will be blocked awaiting access to data.16:44
ratliffso kpis will be my main focus again this week16:45
ratliffleosilva: you are up16:45
leosilvaThis week I'm community16:45
leosilvaI want to finish libgd2 *stucking in tests on zesty*16:45
leosilvaAlso want to pick more pkgs to up in the list.16:46
leosilvathat is for me.16:46
leosilvatyhicks: it's up to you16:46
tyhicksthanks16:46
tyhicks[TOPIC] Highlighted packages16:46
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tyhicksThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.16:46
tyhicksSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.16:46
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/jython.html16:46
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libcsoap.html16:46
tyhicks[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions16:46
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tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/webfs.html16:47
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/prewikka.html16:47
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/slim.html16:47
tyhicksDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?16:47
* tsimonq2 smiles16:47
tyhickstsimonq2: hey - you've got something to discuss?16:47
tsimonq2tyhicks: Nope, I just really enjoy the previous meeting item :P16:48
* tsimonq2 hides16:48
tyhicksthe highlighted packages part? that list is randomly generated without much thought put into it16:49
tyhicksinvolved contributors have a better idea of updates that would be useful16:49
tsimonq2Thanks for noting that :)16:49
ratlifftyhicks: probably more the part where we thanked him for contributing :-)16:50
ratliffthanks again tsimonq2 :-)16:50
tyhicksyes, thank you! :)16:50
sarnold\o/16:50
tsimonq2You're welcome :)16:50
tyhicksjdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks!16:50
tyhicks#endmeeting16:50
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sarnoldthanks tyhicks!16:51
jjohansenthanks tyhicks16:51
ratliffthanks for running the meeting, tyhicks!16:51
leosilvathanks tyhicks16:51
tsimonq2Thanks tyhicks. :)16:51
sbeattietyhicks: thanks!16:51
mdeslaurthanks tyhicks16:51
tsimonq2I know someone emailed ubuntu-hardened about Firefox, someone might want to follow up...16:52
jdstrandthanks tyhicks :)16:52
tyhickstsimonq2: good point16:53
tyhickschrisccoulson: could you reply to the ubuntu-hardened list with your firefox plans?16:53
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tsimonq2o/19:02
cpaelzero/ tsimonq219:02
* tsimonq2 waits for the DMB meeting to start19:02
cpaelzergood luck with your MOTU tsimonq219:02
tsimonq2Thanks cpaelzer, you as well with Core Developer :)19:03
rbasako/19:03
BenCo/19:03
micahgo/19:03
cpaelzertsimonq2: while we are waiting - a while ago you mentioned you could/want to help with triaging on weekends - if things run idle19:04
cpaelzertsimonq2: did you find the doc we replied with sufficient to do so?19:04
* cpaelzer hopes he doesn't mix up people19:04
tsimonq2cpaelzer: irt getting set up with the security team?19:04
cpaelzerserver team in that case19:05
cpaelzertsimonq2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#Bug_Triage19:05
cpaelzertsimonq2: I think we had it on ubuntu-server mailing list about it, but not 100% sure19:05
tsimonq2Ohhhh19:05
tsimonq2cpaelzer: I've asked about it, I don't remember how recent though :P19:06
tsimonq2But yeah, I'm down to help out :)19:06
cpaelzertsimonq2: if you really run dry the above should explain how we triage19:06
cpaelzerand everything someone else touched automatically not show up in our daily runs19:06
tsimonq2cpaelzer: ic, cool :)19:07
cpaelzerno urge, but I thought while waiting for the bus together in this place19:07
tsimonq2cpaelzer: Maybe we can follow up on #ubuntu-server a bit later, yeah ;)19:07
tsimonq2According to https://launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+members there's currently 5 members, and it seems 3/5 here, I'm unfamiliar with the amount needed for quorum though...19:08
tsimonq2s/here/are here/19:08
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cpaelzerLL from past applications - stay calm and they will tell us19:08
tsimonq2Fair. :)19:09
micahgit's actually a 7 person board with 2 unfilled seats at the moment19:10
rbasakWe need 4 :-/19:11
rbasakWe are somewhat stuck until others show up I'm afraid. I have pinged in #ubuntu-devel.19:13
cpaelzerI have a "spend a beer once I see him again" reminder here, the next DMB meber to join will get a +1 on that19:28
* cpaelzer is trying everything to get things rolling19:28
dpb1:)19:29
cpaelzerrbasak: can you do another dmb-ping on -devel evn though it will end up only a 25% meeting that is better than nothing19:36
cpaelzerI understand the situation with the vacant seats, but things seem to pile up19:36
tsimonq2I agree.19:37
* cpaelzer sees the DMB day ahead to clean up19:37
tsimonq2We're backlogged to next meeting even with applications.19:37
rbasakcpaelzer: I tried!19:37
rbasakI wonder if it has a rate limiter.19:37
rbasakFWIW, last week there were no applications. So this is quite an unusual situation, and I expect it'll clear.19:37
cpaelzerok, feeling better19:38
cpaelzerI'm more afraid of the (hopefully soon) new members to run into a marathon of DMB right at the start19:38
tsimonq2rbasak: But I could also see members that are no longer on the DMB (technically, on Launchpad...) seeing the DMB ping and ignoring it because "someone forgot to update the bot"19:40
tsimonq2*shrug*19:40
tsimonq2rbasak: Could we possibly do this on the mailing list or will it be postponed to next meeting?19:46
rbasakThe problem with trying on the ML is that it can take forever to get a quorate vote there too, IME.19:48
tsimonq2I see.19:48
rbasakI prefer to see applications done on IRC, and would be fine with reducing the quorum, but I was vetoed on that.19:49
rbasakhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2017-July/001141.html if anyone's intereted.19:49
tsimonq2rbasak: I don't personally think the solution would be to reduce quorum, but rather have people on the DMB who will show up :/19:51
rbasaktsimonq2: that would be nice, yes :-/19:51
sarnoldI'm just in the peanut gallery here but it sure feels to me like the DMB may not be a useful thing any more. It feels like it almost never hits quorum.19:51
tsimonq2sarnold: Ok, let's entertain that idea. What would be the replacement?19:51
rbasakIMHO the current DMB members (present and absent) have all shown enough judgement and responsibility that I'd be happy with a smaller quorum if that's what it takes for it to remain functional.19:52
cyphermoxbah19:53
tsimonq2cyphermox!!!19:53
tsimonq2:)19:53
sarnoldtsimonq2: RNG flips a coin. you're allowed to hit the 'flip' button once a week. tada!19:53
cyphermoxI am not on the DMB, I have expired.19:53
tsimonq2sarnold: hahahaha :P19:53
rbasakI'm afraid I'm running out of time here.19:53
rbasakI'm going to need to go in a few minutes.19:53
tsimonq2Welp, I guess I can have fun with my sponsors for another two weeks ;)19:54
cpaelzerdon't feel bad, see you in two weeks then19:54
cpaelzerrbasak: it is getting late for you as well - keep it in mind19:55
rbasakI'm sorry the meeting didn't proceed today. Feel free to discuss on the ML. I'm open to you asking for consideration of our applicaiton directly on the ML. I'm just skeptical as to whether that will actually be any faster, though I will try and keep up with my end, of course.19:55
cpaelzerand good luck with the weather next days rbasak19:55
rbasakcpaelzer: thanks :)19:55
tsimonq2rbasak: Alright, I'll think about whether I want to go to the ML or just wait... :)19:56
tsimonq2Thanks rbasak, cpaelzer et. al! :)19:56

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