[02:00] <sheiki> anyone from balkan? *
[03:19] <yoginth> hello
[03:21] <yoginth> i need to get @ubuntu.com email
[03:21] <tsimonq2> yoginth: Why?
[03:22] <yoginth> as im a contributer in ubuntu
[03:23] <tsimonq2> yoginth_: Check out this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[03:23] <yoginth> i have already checked out
[03:23] <yoginth> but i cant find any application form for that!
[03:24] <tsimonq2> yoginth: How long have you been contributing to Ubuntu?
[03:24] <yoginth> 7 months
[03:24] <tsimonq2> yoginth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember
[03:25] <yoginth> do u have an ubuntu email?
[03:26] <tsimonq2> Yes I do.
[03:26] <yoginth> please tell me the procedures!
[03:27] <tsimonq2> yoginth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember
[03:27] <yoginth> i cand find the form there!
[03:27] <yoginth> how can i contact the council boards?
[03:28] <tsimonq2> yoginth: There is no form. You prepare a wiki page, you describe your work contributing to Ubuntu for the past 7 months, you get endorsements from people who have witnessed your work, you put your name on the agenda for the next meeting and attend the meeting. That is the only way.
[03:29] <tsimonq2> s/witnessed your work/worked with you/
[03:29] <yoginth> i cant create the wiki first
[03:29] <yoginth> there is no permission for me
[03:30] <tsimonq2> yoginth: Apply here and wait to be approved: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors
[03:31] <yoginth> how can i put my name to agenda?
[03:32] <tsimonq2> yoginth: Read the wiki page I linked you to.
[03:34] <yoginth> thanks
[03:34] <tsimonq2> You're welcome.
[16:30] <tyhicks> hello
[16:30] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:30] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 14 16:30:24 2017 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:30] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:30] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:30] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:30] <tyhicks> Simon Quigley (tsimonq2) provided debdiffs for trusty-zesty for vlc (LP: #1709420)
[16:30] <tyhicks> Simon Quigley (tsimonq2) provided debdiffs for trusty-zesty for menu-cache (LP: #1703564)
[16:30] <tyhicks> Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)
[16:30] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:30] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[16:31] <tsimonq2> :D
[16:31] <jdstrand> Last week's work is now being captured in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/WeeklyReports so I'll typically not report on that here any more.
[16:31] <jdstrand> This week I plan to focus on:
[16:31] <jdstrand> - finishing my part of the wayland work. This is close to done and the wayland interface is already committed to master, but I'd like to add a spread test, finish my sway investigation, incorporate some snappy xdg-open changes and verify the new wayland-cursor in artful
[16:31] <jdstrand> - finish desktop and accessibility PRs (respond to feedback, finalize services to expose, etc)
[16:31] <jdstrand> - when investigating wayland-cursor for snapd, update apparmor to fix evince crash on startup in 17.10
[16:31] <jdstrand> - be responsive to snappy PRs (in particular, Solus distro support, 'Using udev tagging for snap interfaces' and related refactoring PRs, portals PR if it comes in, layouts PRs, race-free profile generation next steps, dbus session services, etc)
[16:31] <jdstrand> - add an execstack check (with advice on how to fix) to the review tools (this has come up 3 times in the last month)
[16:31] <jdstrand> - try to push forward the open questions regarding snappy users/groups (including privilege dropping) with nie meyer as have time
[16:31] <jdstrand> - add systemd-notify interface as have time (request from Chipaca)
[16:31] <jdstrand> that's it from me. mdeslaur, you're up
[16:31] <mdeslaur> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:31] <mdeslaur> and I'm currently working on postgresql updates
[16:32] <mdeslaur> I have a couple of updates in the ppa that I've been putting off testing for a while, I should probably get to them
[16:32] <mdeslaur> after that, I'll go down the list, as usual
[16:32] <mdeslaur> that's about it
[16:32] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:34] <tyhicks> I'll hop in and we'll come back to sbeattie
[16:35] <tyhicks> now that the seccomp kernel patches look like they're on the path to landing, I will finish my libseccomp patch set and submit the PR
[16:35] <tyhicks> still need to get to review pam_fscrypt
[16:36] <tyhicks> upload fscrypt to the archive once the 32 bit architecture FTBFS issue is sorted out upstream
[16:36] <tyhicks> that's probably all I'm goign to get to this week as I have a short week (off Thurs and Fri)
[16:36] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:37]  * sbeattie can jump in
[16:37] <tyhicks> go ahea
[16:37] <sbeattie> I'm on cve triage this week
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'll likely have an openjdk-7 update from td aitx to test and publish
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'll pick up more updates from the list
[16:38] <sbeattie> I also have some backlogged apparmor and qrt stuff to look at.
[16:39] <sbeattie> that's it for me.
[16:39] <tyhicks> jjohansen: go ahead if you're around
[16:39] <jjohansen> I am working on upstreaming apparmor, I have a few more minor patches/cleanups to finish before sending out the next pull request
[16:39] <jjohansen> and then I need to get back to finishing up the typesplitting work
[16:40] <jjohansen> I suppose I also need to finish booking my travel for the ralley and uh need to give some feedback to Casey on the LSM stacking patches
[16:40] <jjohansen> that is it for me sarnold you're up
[16:41] <sarnold> I'm in the happy place this week; I'll be reviewing apparmor patches if john wants it, working on MIRs (pcp at the moment), and booking travel
[16:41] <sarnold> that's it for me, ratliff?
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> I'm here
[16:41] <ratliff> go ahead chrisccoulson
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> Short week for me - I'm off on holiday at the end of the week. I need to get Firefox 55.0.1 published (later today), and then I'll be spending time on the rust 1.19 updates
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> although it looks like I'll be doing another firefox update
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> that's me done
[16:43] <ratliff> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:44] <ratliff> I made good progress on kpis last week. I have a few more charts to create with the data that we already have on hand.
[16:44] <ratliff> Then I need to document everything and check the scripts into UCT. After that, we need a couple more kpis but will be blocked awaiting access to data.
[16:45] <ratliff> so kpis will be my main focus again this week
[16:45] <ratliff> leosilva: you are up
[16:45] <leosilva> This week I'm community
[16:45] <leosilva> I want to finish libgd2 *stucking in tests on zesty*
[16:46] <leosilva> Also want to pick more pkgs to up in the list.
[16:46] <leosilva> that is for me.
[16:46] <leosilva> tyhicks: it's up to you
[16:46] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:46] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:46] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:46] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:46] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/jython.html
[16:46] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libcsoap.html
[16:46] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:47] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/webfs.html
[16:47] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/prewikka.html
[16:47] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/slim.html
[16:47] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:47]  * tsimonq2 smiles
[16:47] <tyhicks> tsimonq2: hey - you've got something to discuss?
[16:48] <tsimonq2> tyhicks: Nope, I just really enjoy the previous meeting item :P
[16:48]  * tsimonq2 hides
[16:49] <tyhicks> the highlighted packages part? that list is randomly generated without much thought put into it
[16:49] <tyhicks> involved contributors have a better idea of updates that would be useful
[16:49] <tsimonq2> Thanks for noting that :)
[16:50] <ratliff> tyhicks: probably more the part where we thanked him for contributing :-)
[16:50] <ratliff> thanks again tsimonq2 :-)
[16:50] <tyhicks> yes, thank you! :)
[16:50] <sarnold> \o/
[16:50] <tsimonq2> You're welcome :)
[16:50] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks!
[16:50] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 14 16:50:56 2017 UTC.
[16:50] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-08-14-16.30.moin.txt
[16:50] <meetingology`> Meeting ended Mon Aug 14 16:50:56 2017 UTC.
[16:50] <meetingology`> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-08-14-16.30.moin.txt
[16:51] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks!
[16:51] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[16:51] <ratliff> thanks for running the meeting, tyhicks!
[16:51] <leosilva> thanks tyhicks
[16:51] <tsimonq2> Thanks tyhicks. :)
[16:51] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[16:51] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks
[16:52] <tsimonq2> I know someone emailed ubuntu-hardened about Firefox, someone might want to follow up...
[16:52] <jdstrand> thanks tyhicks :)
[16:53] <tyhicks> tsimonq2: good point
[16:53] <tyhicks> chrisccoulson: could you reply to the ubuntu-hardened list with your firefox plans?
[19:02] <tsimonq2> o/
[19:02] <cpaelzer> o/ tsimonq2
[19:02]  * tsimonq2 waits for the DMB meeting to start
[19:02] <cpaelzer> good luck with your MOTU tsimonq2
[19:03] <tsimonq2> Thanks cpaelzer, you as well with Core Developer :)
[19:03] <rbasak> o/
[19:03] <BenC> o/
[19:03] <micahg> o/
[19:04] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: while we are waiting - a while ago you mentioned you could/want to help with triaging on weekends - if things run idle
[19:04] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: did you find the doc we replied with sufficient to do so?
[19:04]  * cpaelzer hopes he doesn't mix up people
[19:04] <tsimonq2> cpaelzer: irt getting set up with the security team?
[19:05] <cpaelzer> server team in that case
[19:05] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#Bug_Triage
[19:05] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: I think we had it on ubuntu-server mailing list about it, but not 100% sure
[19:05] <tsimonq2> Ohhhh
[19:06] <tsimonq2> cpaelzer: I've asked about it, I don't remember how recent though :P
[19:06] <tsimonq2> But yeah, I'm down to help out :)
[19:06] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: if you really run dry the above should explain how we triage
[19:06] <cpaelzer> and everything someone else touched automatically not show up in our daily runs
[19:07] <tsimonq2> cpaelzer: ic, cool :)
[19:07] <cpaelzer> no urge, but I thought while waiting for the bus together in this place
[19:07] <tsimonq2> cpaelzer: Maybe we can follow up on #ubuntu-server a bit later, yeah ;)
[19:08] <tsimonq2> According to https://launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+members there's currently 5 members, and it seems 3/5 here, I'm unfamiliar with the amount needed for quorum though...
[19:08] <tsimonq2> s/here/are here/
[19:08] <cpaelzer> LL from past applications - stay calm and they will tell us
[19:09] <tsimonq2> Fair. :)
[19:10] <micahg> it's actually a 7 person board with 2 unfilled seats at the moment
[19:11] <rbasak> We need 4 :-/
[19:13] <rbasak> We are somewhat stuck until others show up I'm afraid. I have pinged in #ubuntu-devel.
[19:28] <cpaelzer> I have a "spend a beer once I see him again" reminder here, the next DMB meber to join will get a +1 on that
[19:28]  * cpaelzer is trying everything to get things rolling
[19:29] <dpb1> :)
[19:36] <cpaelzer> rbasak: can you do another dmb-ping on -devel evn though it will end up only a 25% meeting that is better than nothing
[19:36] <cpaelzer> I understand the situation with the vacant seats, but things seem to pile up
[19:37] <tsimonq2> I agree.
[19:37]  * cpaelzer sees the DMB day ahead to clean up
[19:37] <tsimonq2> We're backlogged to next meeting even with applications.
[19:37] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I tried!
[19:37] <rbasak> I wonder if it has a rate limiter.
[19:37] <rbasak> FWIW, last week there were no applications. So this is quite an unusual situation, and I expect it'll clear.
[19:38] <cpaelzer> ok, feeling better
[19:38] <cpaelzer> I'm more afraid of the (hopefully soon) new members to run into a marathon of DMB right at the start
[19:40] <tsimonq2> rbasak: But I could also see members that are no longer on the DMB (technically, on Launchpad...) seeing the DMB ping and ignoring it because "someone forgot to update the bot"
[19:40] <tsimonq2> *shrug*
[19:46] <tsimonq2> rbasak: Could we possibly do this on the mailing list or will it be postponed to next meeting?
[19:48] <rbasak> The problem with trying on the ML is that it can take forever to get a quorate vote there too, IME.
[19:48] <tsimonq2> I see.
[19:49] <rbasak> I prefer to see applications done on IRC, and would be fine with reducing the quorum, but I was vetoed on that.
[19:49] <rbasak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2017-July/001141.html if anyone's intereted.
[19:51] <tsimonq2> rbasak: I don't personally think the solution would be to reduce quorum, but rather have people on the DMB who will show up :/
[19:51] <rbasak> tsimonq2: that would be nice, yes :-/
[19:51] <sarnold> I'm just in the peanut gallery here but it sure feels to me like the DMB may not be a useful thing any more. It feels like it almost never hits quorum.
[19:51] <tsimonq2> sarnold: Ok, let's entertain that idea. What would be the replacement?
[19:52] <rbasak> IMHO the current DMB members (present and absent) have all shown enough judgement and responsibility that I'd be happy with a smaller quorum if that's what it takes for it to remain functional.
[19:53] <cyphermox> bah
[19:53] <tsimonq2> cyphermox!!!
[19:53] <tsimonq2> :)
[19:53] <sarnold> tsimonq2: RNG flips a coin. you're allowed to hit the 'flip' button once a week. tada!
[19:53] <cyphermox> I am not on the DMB, I have expired.
[19:53] <tsimonq2> sarnold: hahahaha :P
[19:53] <rbasak> I'm afraid I'm running out of time here.
[19:53] <rbasak> I'm going to need to go in a few minutes.
[19:54] <tsimonq2> Welp, I guess I can have fun with my sponsors for another two weeks ;)
[19:54] <cpaelzer> don't feel bad, see you in two weeks then
[19:55] <cpaelzer> rbasak: it is getting late for you as well - keep it in mind
[19:55] <rbasak> I'm sorry the meeting didn't proceed today. Feel free to discuss on the ML. I'm open to you asking for consideration of our applicaiton directly on the ML. I'm just skeptical as to whether that will actually be any faster, though I will try and keep up with my end, of course.
[19:55] <cpaelzer> and good luck with the weather next days rbasak
[19:55] <rbasak> cpaelzer: thanks :)
[19:56] <tsimonq2> rbasak: Alright, I'll think about whether I want to go to the ML or just wait... :)
[19:56] <tsimonq2> Thanks rbasak, cpaelzer et. al! :)