| Oli | Urgh, such an Americanised wrapper. And I'm not sure they're Europe's favoUrite. They might have the numbers but only because every cafe in France doles them out with a cuppa. | 07:17 |
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| Oli | Oh this is a rebranded Speculoos? I take it all back. | 07:19 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 07:57 |
| foobarry | =/me wave | 08:49 |
| * foobarry wave | 08:49 | |
| * SuperMatt particle | 08:49 | |
| MooDoo | howdy all | 08:55 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:03 |
| MooDoo | Hello brobostigon | 09:04 |
| brobostigon | hello MooDoo | 09:05 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: me owld mukka | 09:06 |
| MooDoo | hello davmor2 howdy tricks? brobostigon howdy :D | 09:12 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:12 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:48 |
| MooDoo | howdy czajkowski :) | 09:49 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: hows things? | 09:52 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: yeah ok thanks, how's your good self....and speak up it's a bit noisy in here ;) | 09:53 |
| czajkowski | been a bit busy recently but always on here even if I don't say much | 09:57 |
| czajkowski | getting ready for crazy travel season in september | 09:57 |
| MooDoo | safe journeys :) | 10:00 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest86680 | ||
| czajkowski | RAT doodle time https://beta.doodle.com/poll/drwv3c2pwcqs33ny | 10:24 |
| === Guest86680 is now known as MooDoo | ||
| foobarry | man i hate pinterest | 13:16 |
| foobarry | requiring a login to see stuff | 13:16 |
| SuperMatt | The worst part about it is that it's kinda creating a protection racket for the internet | 13:17 |
| SuperMatt | I used to be able to google a term, and the image I wanted was the first one | 13:17 |
| SuperMatt | Now it's moved down a couple of pages because all the other results are just pinterest | 13:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | what! you didn't install the app and create an account to see if the image is what you wanted?! | 13:19 |
| foobarry | and those pinterest links are just taken from other sites | 13:19 |
| foobarry | when you add something to pinterest, they prefer that you don't upload oringinal content but link from other sites | 13:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | and pinterest is a bit broken atm. having trouble logging in on desktop and mobile over last few weeks | 13:19 |
| foobarry | they make it much more of a faff to keep oringinal content there | 13:19 |
| diddledan | SuperMatt: that's a very pertinent thought about the way we're getting walled-off areas of the tinternet | 13:22 |
| diddledan | the same is happening with news going behind paywalls | 13:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's been happening pre web with the likes of aol and compuserv | 13:22 |
| SuperMatt | It's partly our own fault. We want free content, but nothing comes for free. We can either have ads, or we can pay for what we want | 13:23 |
| diddledan | "human knowledge belong to the world" and "this is the real world. and in the real world when you kill people they die. for real." | 13:23 |
| foobarry | in other news i boguht GTA V | 13:24 |
| popey | :) | 13:25 |
| popey | I haven't played that for ages | 13:25 |
| foobarry | i'm still playing skyrim though | 13:25 |
| foobarry | the language in GATA is eye watering | 13:25 |
| SuperMatt | I've gone off games | 13:25 |
| popey | I'm mostly playing Rust recently | 13:25 |
| SuperMatt | but now my wife is away for a week, and I don't know what I'm going to do with myself | 13:25 |
| foobarry | i wish you could turn it off. i basically have to have the sound off | 13:26 |
| diddledan | rust as in a game or rust as in programming? | 13:26 |
| popey | Game | 13:26 |
| SuperMatt | rustlang can eat my shorts. I'm a go daddy | 13:26 |
| diddledan | :-D | 13:26 |
| diddledan | I like that, go daddy | 13:26 |
| SuperMatt | I just made it up | 13:26 |
| SuperMatt | recruiters are loving seeing go on my cv | 13:27 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 13:27 |
| diddledan | I've only written one whole thing in go: github.com/bowlhat/sftp-deploy - it uses a couple other packages that I wrote to wrap the ssh client and stuff but they were all written specifically for that prog | 13:28 |
| SuperMatt | I've written a few things | 13:28 |
| MooDoo | :) | 13:29 |
| SuperMatt | https://github.com/SuperMatt/mlog - a simple logging library, https://github.com/SuperMatt/pulllist - a tool to list all the comics DC are releasing this week, https://github.com/SuperMatt/tubestatus - the current london underground status | 13:29 |
| SuperMatt | That's all the stuff I can release on my github page, because I do have things I've written for work | 13:29 |
| SuperMatt | Although this isn't written in go, it's my crowning glory: https://github.com/SuperMatt/countdown | 13:31 |
| SuperMatt | also accessible here: https://matty.digital/countdown/ | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | hey popey, i listened to that "ready steady code" podcast the other day. is the code they wrote released anywhere? | 14:15 |
| * Gargoyle waves | 14:54 | |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 15:28 |
| diddledan | coooeeeyyy! | 15:40 |
| diddledan | (that's a local way of saying "yooohooo") | 15:40 |
| popey | flexiondotorg: see question from ali1234 .. where did the code get put? | 15:54 |
| * flexiondotorg is a bad man. | 15:54 | |
| popey | i thought we'd put it on the podcast github repo | 15:54 |
| popey | but can't find it | 15:54 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll fix that later. | 15:54 |
| popey | kk | 15:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Not in out GitHub yet. It will appear, as if by magic, here later - https://github.com/ubuntupodcast/ | 15:55 |
| flexiondotorg | *our | 15:55 |
| popey | ali1234: hows the pi stuff going? Got any more hardware projects on the go? (I use those usb adapters daily) | 15:55 |
| ali1234 | thanks | 15:58 |
| ali1234 | i'm working on software stuff at the moment | 15:58 |
| ali1234 | the goal is a ramdisk-based firmware with Qt and gstreamer, for kiosk stuff | 15:58 |
| ali1234 | i just rebased it on stretch and found a mountain of bugs | 15:59 |
| ali1234 | i keep seeing stuff about snap for embedded, but it doesn't work for me due to being too big, and not working on the pi zero | 16:00 |
| ali1234 | on the hardware side i built this: https://goo.gl/photos/FGiXMqUoBpsMvPYn9 | 16:03 |
| ali1234 | that's one possible target for the ramdisk stuff, since it's liable to be powered off anytime | 16:03 |
| popey | that's jolly cute | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | it involves some custom SLA printing from dirty pcb | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | it's really amazing what you can get made in china these days | 16:04 |
| popey | yeah | 16:05 |
| Seeker` | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLxWsYx8dbo SpaceX launch in 25 minutes | 16:05 |
| popey | ooh ta | 16:06 |
| popey | is this the hp linux super computer one? | 16:06 |
| ali1234 | i got two of these for $2.50 each with free shipping: https://goo.gl/photos/qccBiWb3m2rpsgcs8 (it's the light guide that goes on the front) | 16:06 |
| Seeker` | popey: think so | 16:06 |
| popey | ali1234: 3d printed at home? | 16:07 |
| ali1234 | no in china :) | 16:07 |
| popey | hah | 16:07 |
| popey | for pennies? | 16:07 |
| ali1234 | yeah... and home printers can't print in anywhere near that resolution | 16:07 |
| diddledan | nasatv are doing it too: https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public | 16:07 |
| ali1234 | it's SLA, so lasers and liquid resin, not the "squirt melted plastic out of a nozzle" stuff | 16:07 |
| * diddledan squirts liquid resin at ali1234 | 16:08 | |
| popey | ahh | 16:08 |
| diddledan | :-p | 16:08 |
| diddledan | that's a cute lil clocky thing tho | 16:08 |
| ali1234 | i just uploaded a STL made in openscad and got the prints in the mail a couple of weeks later | 16:09 |
| popey | guess it's more than just a clock | 16:09 |
| popey | how many for how much? | 16:09 |
| popey | if you dont mind me asking | 16:09 |
| ali1234 | for the prints? | 16:09 |
| popey | ya | 16:09 |
| ali1234 | two for $2.50 each | 16:09 |
| popey | shipped? | 16:09 |
| ali1234 | yes, free shipping | 16:09 |
| diddledan | that's crazy cheap | 16:09 |
| popey | sheesh | 16:09 |
| ali1234 | actually it might have been like $2.25 each and $0.50 shipping or something, i forget :) | 16:10 |
| diddledan | they must have made a loss | 16:10 |
| ali1234 | it's ridiculously cheap anyway | 16:10 |
| popey | their costs are super low | 16:11 |
| ali1234 | there's no wasted resin with SLA, you just top up the tank | 16:11 |
| ali1234 | they charge by weight of the finished print | 16:11 |
| ali1234 | which the website calculates | 16:11 |
| diddledan | really awesome | 16:12 |
| * diddledan tries to think of things to get printed | 16:12 | |
| ali1234 | at the moment it really is just a clock, but you can add eg an audio board and make a upnp music player or something | 16:13 |
| ali1234 | which is why i'm working on gstreamer in a ramdisk :) | 16:13 |
| popey | my latest toy is a nanopi air, which is super tiny | 16:15 |
| ali1234 | rpi has all the cool hardware tho, that's the problem | 16:15 |
| ali1234 | all the clock hardware is pimoroni stuff | 16:16 |
| ali1234 | just hats stacked together | 16:16 |
| ali1234 | it wouldn't be nearly as nice if it was a bunch of different sized boards cobbled together... but that's all it really is | 16:17 |
| popey | i wanted something smaller but more powerful than the pizero | 16:18 |
| popey | also, toy | 16:18 |
| ali1234 | you mean, something with ARMv7 right? ;) | 16:19 |
| popey | :D | 16:19 |
| popey | a bit of that, yes :) | 16:19 |
| ali1234 | whats the gpu like in nanopi? | 16:21 |
| popey | dunno, only used it over serial console so far | 16:21 |
| ali1234 | i really like the videocore gpu | 16:21 |
| ali1234 | it works great with Qt through their proprietary drivers, it's as smooth as using an iphone | 16:22 |
| popey | wow | 16:22 |
| ali1234 | if you write QML stuff, the animations are perfect | 16:22 |
| ali1234 | this is using EGLFS, so no bloated X11 | 16:22 |
| ali1234 | really nice with their 7" touch display for rss reader or photo frame type stuff | 16:23 |
| ali1234 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyPXc5nbNo | 16:24 |
| popey | nice | 16:25 |
| ali1234 | about 14 out of the 15 seconds it takes to boot are spent loading the initrd from the sd card and uncompressing it | 16:25 |
| ali1234 | total size is 66MB compressed | 16:27 |
| ali1234 | also it's pure systemd... i loooove systemd now | 16:29 |
| popey | hahah | 16:29 |
| popey | was there ever any doubt? | 16:29 |
| popey | (you don't need to answer that) | 16:29 |
| ali1234 | well i never really hated it | 16:29 |
| diddledan | I used to be in the "why?" camp | 16:30 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 16:30 |
| diddledan | I'm not in the "pretty useful" camp | 16:30 |
| ali1234 | but, like, now i understand | 16:30 |
| diddledan | now* | 16:30 |
| diddledan | I'm now in the "pretty useful" camp | 16:30 |
| ali1234 | 1 minute to rocket liftoff if anyone wants to watch that :) | 16:31 |
| diddledan | flaming phaluses | 16:31 |
| popey | already on second screen :) | 16:31 |
| popey | great having that on in the background | 16:31 |
| popey | weird that it's so commonplace now that it's just on as background noise here | 16:31 |
| popey | smooth as silk | 16:31 |
| diddledan | I remember watching the last spacex to explode on launch live | 16:32 |
| popey | i dont think I have ever seen them explode live | 16:32 |
| ali1234 | was just thinking it will be weird whwen they launch so often that nobody cares to even bother streaming it | 16:32 |
| diddledan | looking good | 16:32 |
| popey | 1000 km/h is insane | 16:32 |
| diddledan | I believe this is a reused first sstage, too | 16:33 |
| popey | i love the landings | 16:33 |
| popey | is it landing on boat or land? | 16:33 |
| diddledan | they blow my mind | 16:34 |
| diddledan | on land by the sounds of the commentary | 16:34 |
| diddledan | going back to the cape | 16:34 |
| popey | my kids are already blasé about it | 16:35 |
| diddledan | wow. epic view of the separation | 16:35 |
| popey | same with when the ISS goes over | 16:35 |
| popey | aside from the whole 'thing going into space and coming back' there's the fact we can watch this in pretty decent quality video | 16:36 |
| diddledan | those direction control thrusters are showing up well on the distance view of the first stage | 16:36 |
| popey | it's all a bit mind blowing | 16:36 |
| popey | douglas adams was right | 16:36 |
| popey | looks like it's properly plummeting like a rock | 16:38 |
| diddledan | it looks out of control | 16:39 |
| popey | amazing | 16:39 |
| diddledan | wow, that was good | 16:40 |
| diddledan | I wonder how much AI learning is being tasked to constantly improve the landing procedure | 16:41 |
| popey | the presenter seems quite happy | 16:41 |
| popey | i think he introduced himself as a firmware engineer | 16:42 |
| popey | must be a tense time | 16:42 |
| Seeker` | this is insane, watching live video from space | 16:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think when they were tweeting from marianas trench it was cooler imho | 17:54 |
| * diddledan sings: hey mr. tallynadger, show me your banana. | 18:45 | |
| diddledan | ..daylight come, and me wanna go home. | 18:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMigXnXMhQ4 | 18:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | i canna find the comedy version though... :-( | 18:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | ah ha... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-9h1pjTP74 | 18:51 |
| daftykins | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40927791 | 21:51 |
| daftykins | this story doesn't sit well with me | 21:51 |
| diddledan | it's gonna give cyclists a bad rep when in reality he's just a moron | 22:03 |
| daftykins | well the comments saying that brakes would've solved it is also rubbish | 22:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | usually when a cyclist is a moron it's their own life they throw away. this muppet will go to jail and this crime will follow him for the rest of his life | 22:05 |
| daftykins | muppet for riding a fixie, or another element? | 22:06 |
| daftykins | certainly posting to a forum about it is a bit iffy | 22:06 |
| Gargoyle | Don't see why it's gone to trial!? | 22:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | 1) muppet for riding a non legal bike | 22:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | comments on forum won't help his case | 22:10 |
| daftykins | never heard anything about legality to fixies on the road before o0 | 22:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think they do have you need front brakes thing, saw it mentioned a while back in some forum | 22:11 |
| diddledan | what's the stopping distance for a well maintained bicycle going 20mph, I wonder | 22:12 |
| daftykins | tonnes of variables there | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | depends if it's wet/dry/gutter filled with leaves | 22:12 |
| daftykins | type of brake, whether the bike has both or not... | 22:12 |
| Gargoyle | "In the case of a pure pedal cycle (no electrical assistance) these regulations are so simple, that the only parts that matter are the brakes." | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | weight of bike, speed | 22:12 |
| Gargoyle | "The basic requirement is for two efficient braking systems, by which the front wheel (or wheels) can be braked independently of the rear wheel (or wheels). " | 22:13 |
| daftykins | what are you quoting from? | 22:13 |
| Gargoyle | http://www.cyclinguk.org/cyclists-library/regulations/construction-use | 22:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | 90% of the time i put on the brakes, put both feet on the ground and lifted front wheel. lots of sparks, lots of skidding. stopped fast | 22:13 |
| diddledan | when are we gonna get self-cycling bicycles like the google cars | 22:13 |
| daftykins | ;) | 22:15 |
| diddledan | remove all humans from the equation and you're set :-p | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | till the robot rebellion... | 22:15 |
| daftykins | rise of the cycling machines | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | on that day, stay away from the dildo factory... :-P | 22:15 |
| diddledan | vibrated to death! | 22:16 |
| diddledan | what's that series of films where there are gruesome deaths by robotic saws and stuff? | 22:17 |
| daftykins | Saw? :P | 22:17 |
| diddledan | I think it's called "hardware" | 22:19 |
| daftykins | with Tim the toolman Taylor? :D | 22:19 |
| diddledan | nope, screamers! | 22:20 |
| diddledan | it was screamers | 22:20 |
| diddledan | hardware is similar tho | 22:20 |
| diddledan | maybe nsfw trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WksPMueXkP4 | 22:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | meh, i'll stick with tremors... | 22:23 |
| Gargoyle | I think you have issues with large vibrating things! ;-) | 22:24 |
| === Chrisfu- is now known as Chrisfu | ||
| diddledan | WEEEEEEE | 23:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | have a nice split? | 23:55 |
| daftykins | g'night \o | 23:56 |
| diddledan | splitter | 23:56 |
| === Chrisfu is now known as 32NAAT2HW | ||
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 23:56 |
| diddledan | :-p | 23:56 |
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