[00:13] <arooni> hey team; i installed unity-webapps-lastfm-radio ;; package restarted; but still dont see it in settings => online acccounts
[01:04] <arooni> anyone get scrobbling working on ubuntu?
[01:28] <pravin> Hello I am unable to start mysql database and apache web server in xampp. please help
[01:29] <kk4ewt> pravin,  did you configure your database
[01:30] <pravin> kk4ewt I didn't
[01:30] <kk4ewt> well thats where you start
[01:31] <pravin> kk4ewt I I tried changing ports
[01:31] <kk4ewt> if you want apache to use the db you have to config the database first
[01:32] <pravin> kk4ewt Do i need to edit the config file
[01:32] <kk4ewt> i am sure there are plenty of howtos on mysql on google
[01:33] <pravin> ok I'll try them
[01:43] <pravin> kk4ewt I had installed mysql and apache before
[01:44] <pravin> I think they are running in the background
[01:44] <pravin> and hogging the default ports
[01:50] <kk4ewt> pravin,  sudo systemctl status mysqld
[02:40] <DanielPowerNL> Is there a way to shrink an Xfs partition without using LVM? My Arch install is setup on an Xfs partition, and I need to shrink it so I can setup a dual boot with Ubuntu. I can't do it in gparted, and the best instructions I can find on the internet are either lacking detail, in german, or require a Red Hat License to access.
[02:54] <oerheks> danielhuman, nope, currently not possible. try arch channels again?
[03:33] <Karunamon> Hi folks - trying to figure out a puzzle on a 16.04.3 machine. I've got inet static set in my /etc/network/interfaces for eth0, but the interface is pulling DHCP anyways. I see "IP-Config:" lines during boot, but I can't figure out what's generating them
[03:33] <Shmam> Just installed Tilix (formerly terminix) and trying to change theme to dark. Set it in the preferences and tried restarting tilix from every different way to quit it but it just doesn't seem to work.
[03:33] <Karunamon> (more concerningly, that IP-Config stuff is nowhere in my logs)
[03:34] <Karunamon> pretty sure if I knew what system was generating those lines I could take it from there
[03:36] <Karunamon> it looks like: IP-Config: eth0 hardware address e0:db:55:0c:34:7e mtu 1500 DHCP
[03:41] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: I am not an expert . but 16.04 uses Predictable-Network-Interface-Names; unless you have re-configured the interface will not be eth0 . What shows '
[03:41] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: I am not an expert . but 16.04 uses Predictable-Network-Interface-Names; unless you have re-configured the interface will not be eth0 . What shows ' ip link ls ' ?
[03:43] <freechoice> does anybody who has configured php7.0-fpm/nginx on 16.04?
[03:43] <Karunamon> •Bashing-om• I did set that option. /etc/default/grub has a "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[03:43] <freechoice> I can't log errors after I tried all the configurations
[03:44] <freechoice> anybody who could give me a hand?
[03:44] <Karunamon> I have one NIC in the machine so unlearning a decade of muscle memory to type a longer name was a pain in the arse
[03:44] <Karunamon> :)
[03:50] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: Well, resetting the interface name is not something I have done , so take with a grain of salt , and we will struggle on . does ' ip link ls ' show eth0 ?
[03:50] <Karunamon> it does
[03:51] <Karunamon> and the interface works normally if I set the address by hand with 'ip', this behavior only appears when booting up
[03:51] <Bashing-om> K, do we get an IP ' arp -a ' ?
[03:52] <Karunamon> yes, very many
[03:52] <Karunamon> connectivity is fine - i just want the nic to stop coming up with a DHCP address in favor of the one I explicitly set
[03:54] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: nd then ' cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ' managed=true ?
[03:55] <Karunamon> That directory doesnt exist as network-manager was purged
[03:55] <Karunamon> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:55] <Karunamon> (wrong window)
[03:56] <Jordan_U> Karunamon: "journalctl | grep -i IP-Config" produce any output?
[03:56] <Karunamon> none
[03:56] <Karunamon> neither does a "grep -i ip-config /var/log'
[03:56] <Karunamon> it's nowhere.
[03:56] <Karunamon> (err, grep -ri ip-config /var/log/)
[04:01] <RendySurvage> ugh prosody will not launch. I've started the service and it says it's running. I've checked the logs and it doesn't show that it's running
[04:02] <lordarkmemo> Hi, im working with iptables.  But everytime i restart th iptables load some rules that reject my traffic.  I dont know how to erase those rules
[04:03] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Karunamon :: resolv.conf issue ?? ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' .
[04:03] <Karunamon> uh... sorry? that was an unrelated command mistakenly typed into the chat
[04:04] <lordarkmemo> i have to Insert the rules above the default or flush, but after restart the default rules remains.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: Maybe not . I have seen some wierd results with inconsistent resolv.conf file .
[04:06] <Karunamon> Ah, gotcha
[04:06] <Karunamon> nothing weird here, two nameserver: lines that are correct and a search: line that is correct
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: Not real sure here but systemd wants  /etc/resolv.conf to have the loop back IP ?? .. and put the dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces ??
[04:15] <Karunamon> Bashing-om, /etc/resolv.conf is being handled by resolvconf - dns-nameservers and dns-search is present in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:18] <nur0n> hello, is there a way to pass flags to the configure script when running dpkg-reconfigure? I tried setting the 'DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS', but it seemed to have no effect
[04:20] <bodangly> I did something really dumb and formatted my /boot partition. Now I am not sure how to fix it. No backups. I tried apt-get --reinstall install linux-generic but it didn't reinstall any kernel files to /boot
[04:20] <bodangly> what should I do?
[04:20] <bodangly> I REALLY don't want to reinstall...
[04:20] <Bashing-om> Karunamon: Correct. My 16.04 NM /etc/resolv.conf file : http://termbin.com/53fg , Where I expect " nameserver 127.0.1.1 " to be set in yours .
[04:20] <cfhowlett> bodangly, stop what you
[04:21] <cfhowlett> are doing and back up your data before you do ANYTHING else
[04:24] <vitx> Hi, is there a music player for Ubuntu which chooses which song to play next automatically based on patterns of what you listen to ?
[04:28] <bodangly> Sorry lost connection... as I was saying, after wiping /boot, apt-get --reinstall install linux-generic didn't add back the files.
[04:28] <bodangly> My important files are all pushed to a remote git, so I am  fine there
[04:29] <bodangly> But getting ubuntu running on this laptop was a project that I don't care to repeat. Any help at all is much appreciated
[04:31] <Bashing-om> bodangly: What release ?
[04:37] <bodangly> Ugh, unstable wifi not helping my situation....
[04:38] <Bashing-om> bodangly: What release ? See if we can install the image and headers .
[04:38] <bodangly> 17.04
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, I would think he could boot a USB , chroot and install --- of course, I've never actually DONE this but it sounds like a cool theory ...
[04:39] <bodangly>  sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic ?
[04:39] <bodangly> that runs but also doesn't add anything to /boot
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[04:40] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Hope that bodangly Has not rebooted to this time . and we can still install .
[04:40] <bodangly> No, have not rebooted ;)
[04:41] <cfhowlett> bodangly, no one else asked, so I will: why / how did you decide to format /boot again?
[04:42] <bodangly> Dumbass mistake. I was at a UPS store trying to print a PDF, stuck a thumb drive in, realized it was ext2, went to format it, and in a rush was not paying attention.
[04:42] <bodangly> And typed my password twice like a moron.
[04:42] <bodangly> I immediately realized what I did. I did get the PDF printed though lol
[04:43] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Try ' sudo apt-get update && sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-4.10.0-32-generic linux-headers-4.10.0-32-generic linux-headers-4.10.0-32 ' .
[04:43] <Bashing-om> bodangly: sudo apt update **
[04:44] <karstensrage> if i have my own package that im working on, can i put it in the list so another library can find it during autoconf ./configure  ?
[04:49] <bodangly> woohoo I have a kernel and initrd, system map, etc in /boot now
[04:49] <bodangly> thanks
[04:49] <cfhowlett> bodangly, so you
[04:49] <cfhowlett> are fixed?
[04:49] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Wait one . still thin'n to complete this .
[04:49] <bodangly> so now though, I probably need to reinstall grub, and make sure my fstab is updated to point to the correct /boot since I formatted it?
[04:50] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-extra zesty
[04:50] <cfhowlett> sudo grub-update not reinstall I should think
[04:52] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Let's repeat for a backup kernel . what kernel ? ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ' .
[04:53] <bodangly> 4.10.0-32
[04:53] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Not an " /vmlinuz.old " ?
[04:54] <bodangly> nope
[04:55] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Let me see what I can find then for a back up kernel .
[04:55] <bodangly> sure, thanks
[04:56] <RendySurvage> having an issue where I edited a file as root but now the service in question cannot access the file.
[04:56] <RendySurvage> any hints?
[04:57] <RendySurvage> I tried chown
[04:59] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Be faster if you pick the one under -32 from ' apt list linux-headers '.
[05:00] <bodangly> so 4.10.0-30 ?
[05:00] <bodangly> How do I install it as a backup? Never have had to do that before. At least I am learning new tricks from this.
[05:01] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Yepper .. looks good nuif to me . doooo it .
[05:02] <bodangly> do I need to download the .deb and install it with dpkg-i ? Or is there another way?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> bodangly: same same as for the -32 kernel . ' sudo update-grub ' Then we want to fix the symlinks in / .
[05:03] <bodangly> ah ok
[05:03] <Bashing-om> bodangly: with the jope that the -30 jernel is still in the repo .
[05:03] <Bashing-om> hope*
[05:04] <bodangly> looks like it is
[05:06] <bodangly> Bashing-om: ok installed and ran update-grub
[05:07] <vitx> Is there a music player for Ubuntu with suggestion feature ?
[05:08] <freechoice> does anybody who has configured php7.0-fpm/nginx on 16.04?
[05:09] <Bashing-om> bodangly: ' ls -al /vmlinuz* /initrd.img* ' Now is there /vmlinuz.old and /initrd.img.old ?
[05:09] <bodangly> nope still just vmlinuz
[05:09] <bodangly> should I manually make the symlinks?
[05:10] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Bout what I expected . do you know how to make up the symlinks for the .old files ?
[05:10] <bodangly> Bashing-om: ln -sf boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-30-generic vmlinuz.old
[05:11] <bodangly> and likewise for initrd?
[05:11] <bodangly> guess I need no f, just a habit
[05:11] <bodangly> (a bad one)
[05:12] <Bashing-om> sudo ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-30-generic /vmlinuz.old .
[05:13] <bodangly> right, well, I was doing it in /, should be the same right?
[05:13] <bodangly> looks like its all done
[05:14] <bodangly> vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-32-generic, and vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-30-generic
[05:14] <bodangly> likewise for initrd.img and initrd.img.old
[05:14] <Bashing-om> bodangly: consider a moment . but I think maybe reboot time . less we can come up with a reason not to float test it and see .
[05:15] <vitx> Is there a music player for Ubuntu with suggestion feature ?
[05:16] <bodangly> so it looks like 2384ef94-1dd1-4edc-a722-73159782b872 -> ../../nvme0n1p1 if i ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid, which is different than /boot in /etc/fstab, so I think I have to update that as well
[05:16] <theablestman> hi how do i upgrade firefox in ubuntu 14.04lts?
[05:22] <Bashing-om> bodangly: I an very surprised that the UUID would change ! what shows ' sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list ' ?
[05:23] <bodangly>            ext4             (not mounted)  2384ef94-1dd1-4edc-a722-73159782b872
[05:23] <bodangly> oh shit...
[05:23] <bodangly> not mounted!
[05:23] <bodangly> that meants /boot is all in /? I probably need to mount it and rerun everything
[05:24] <bodangly>  # /boot was on /dev/nvme0n1p1 during installation
[05:24] <bodangly>  10 UUID=3f7decf6-9c04-43d9-b293-d46f2cc447f4 /boot           ext4    defaults
[05:24] <bodangly> thats my original fstab
[05:24] <bodangly> so it looks like it did change.
[05:25] <bodangly> can I just tar up the /boot that is presumably sitting in my rootfs, and then mount the other and extract, or will I need to rerun the apt commands?
[05:25] <bodangly> tar -pczvf should work, right?
[05:26] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Seperate /boot partition ? ' verify ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . But I can not see that having a seperate /boot would confuse the install of the kernels .
[05:28] <bodangly> was not mounted during all this :x
[05:28] <bodangly> dev/nvme0n1p1 *       2048     999423     997376   487M 83 Linux
[05:28] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Now if you deleted the /boot partition then YES the UUID would change when the partitiom was re-created .
[05:28] <bodangly> I am pretty sure I just reformatted, but its immaterial really, the uuid is what it is so I will make sure it matches
[05:29] <bodangly> but to move all I just did to the separate /boot, can i just tar it up with -pczvf, mount the separate boot, and extract there?
[05:30] <Bashing-om> bodangly: That is a scary thought to me . I would prefer to purge what we did . and with /boot mounted then re-install once more .
[05:31] <bodangly> I see
[05:32] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Be no worse off than when we started . and in a much better position then to re-install .
[05:34] <bodangly> so do I just apt-get purge the linux headers and image and then re-run the installs?
[05:35] <edge226> anyone here done GPU passthrough with kvm before?
[05:35] <edge226> I'm having trouble getting the card I want to passthrough to use vfio-pci.
[05:35] <edge226> The audio device seems to work but the GPU does not.
[05:38] <Bashing-om> bodangly: One liner ' sudo apt purge linux-{headers,image}-3.10.0-{30,32}-generic linux-headers-4.10.0-{30,32} linux-image-extra ' . should do it .
[05:39] <edge226> brb
[05:39] <Bashing-om> opps no linux-image-extra in zesty !
[05:39] <bodangly> Bashing-om: thanks, I'll have to pick this up where I left off in a few hours. Thanks for all your help
[05:40] <bodangly> I think I'll be fine now though, thanks again!
[05:40] <Bashing-om> bodangly: K, You know now it can be done :)
[05:41] <bodangly> Also what was wrong with the stack overflow answers.
[05:41] <bodangly> later man
[05:41] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Hood note
[05:42] <Bashing-om> bodangly: Good nite \o
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:31] <edge226> Does anyone know how to get the 65:00.0 to properly use vfio-pci?
[06:32] <edge226> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25317303/
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> edge226: tell us a bit more about your problem please? ubuntu version?
[06:34] <edge226> 17.04 I am attempting to do kvm/qemu gpu passthrough and from my understanding I need the GPU to be vfio-pci for kvm to be able to see it.
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !kvm | edge226 can this help you?
[06:37] <edge226> lotuspsychje: that does not help me no.
[06:38] <edge226> lotuspsychje: the issue is that noveau and on another partition the nvidia drivers are taking the card before vfio-pci can capture it for KVM to use.
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> edge226: what about this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/939351/virt-install-with-kvm-off-option/939632
[06:39] <edge226> lotuspsychje: while reading around in other documentation the arch wiki states that if another drive is loaded with early modesetting that vfio modules need to precede it, This leads me to believe the nouveau module is loading before vfio-pci.
[06:40] <edge226> lotuspsychje: I'm not at that part yet.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> edge226: this looks like a clean tut aswell: https://zllovesuki.git.sx/essays/2015/09/gpu-passthrough-via-vfio-pci-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-1504/
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> edge226: there's also a nice #kvm channel if you like
[06:43] <edge226> lotuspsychje: hmm perhaps that is a more appropriate place to ask. Thank you.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> edge226: i didn say that, as your issue is still about ubuntu, but it can widen your options
[06:54] <edge226> lotuspsychje: well at this point it feels like I'm never going to get the right driver to load in Ubuntu...
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> edge226: dont give up too soon, to get your issue solved repeat once in a while here, with all your details
[06:56] <edge226> lotuspsychje: I've been trying for days so far.
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> edge226: ubuntu 17.04 trying..with card... etc
[06:56] <Bashing-om> edge226: install the nvidia proprietary driver ?
[06:56] <edge226> Bashing-om: I could. I had that on another install and I was getting the same result.
[06:59] <Bashing-om> edge226: for the GTX1060 nvidia recommends the 384 version driver . Available in our trusted PPA . http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/120917/en-us .
[06:59] <edge226> Bashing-om: install the proprietary for the host GPU but not the shared right?
[07:00] <edge226> Bashing-om: the 1060 is going to be the shared GPU, the host is a 750Ti
[07:00] <Bashing-om> edge226: More I do not know than what I do about your use case . but yes install on the host .
[07:01] <edge226> Bashing-om: So there is a PPA for updated nvidia drivers?
[07:02] <Bashing-om> edge226: See: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[07:09] <edge226> Bashing-om: that has been updated but now it is just pushing both cards through nvidia instead of nouveau
[07:11] <Bashing-om> edge226: Right . is that not better to do passthrough ?
[07:12] <edge226> Bashing-om: afaik it needs to be vfio-pci so kvm can access the card.
[07:15] <edge226> Oh wait I think I figured it out.
[07:16] <edge226> Thanks.
[07:17] <Bashing-om> edge226: edge226 Great : " Kernel driver in use: vfio-pci " : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Using_vfio-pci .
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> edge226: how did you fix?
[07:21] <edge226> looked under the right category for my GPU lol
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !yay | edge226
[07:23] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: We need a dax adjustment ?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> yeah seems like it Bashing-om
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: only a part of the bot, so it seems
[07:24] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Save the adjustment for a later time as I be backing down and going out . I try to recall :)
[07:40] <bex> anyone know why my file transfer doesnt want to resume via ftp?
[07:40] <bex> it just fails the second time
[07:40] <bex> maybe permissions
[07:43] <bex> i'm not sure what to change it to
[08:07] <bex> nevermind i figured it out
[09:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[09:55] <acresearch> people, i have an image that i want to blur, how can i do that in ubuntu?
[09:58] <EriC^^> acresearch: gimp
[09:59] <glitsj16> acresearch: ^ or using mogrify from CLI
[09:59] <acresearch> glitsj16: gimp is a very big and complicated program i want to avoid it for something as small as just to blur 1 image
[09:59] <acresearch> EriC^^:
[10:00] <acresearch> glitsj16: mogrify? sudo apt install mogrify?
[10:01] <glitsj16> acresearch: mogrify is part of the imagemagick package, comes with a very detailed man page
[10:02] <wru2> "Mogrify overwrites the original image file, whereas, convert(1) writes to a different image file."
[10:02] <acresearch> ohhh ok,,,, mogrify -(what flag to blur?) image.jpg
[10:02] <wru2> From the man page of mogrify(1).
[10:03] <glitsj16> acresearch: wru2 shows yet another alternative, it depends on what/how you want to blur really
[10:06] <acresearch> glitsj16: well, i don't know what different types of bluring there are, but generally remove the details of a face, or make words unreadable etc...
[10:11] <glitsj16> acresearch: could be as easy as 'convert /path/to/image.jpg -blur 0x5 /path/to/blurred.jpg' .. but that does blur the image as a whole .. if you need to blur specific parts of an image it gets more complicated and gimp might be a faster/easier option
[10:16] <acresearch> thank you very much, works nicely
[10:42] <oost> Someone here with hardware skills? (i need advise for buying hardware equipment)
[10:43] <oost> (not ubuntu specific that is)
[10:46] <EriC^^> oost: #hardware
[10:52] <oost> ok, will try.
[10:54] <DarekDeo_> Hi, I would like to check if my display does support freesync: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --prop | grep freesync_capable
[10:55] <DarekDeo_> but whenever I run the DISPLAY=:0 command I got the output: Can't open display desktop:0
[10:56] <DarekDeo_> actually DISPLAY=:0 xrandr does print: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCan't open display :0
[10:57] <DarekDeo_> everything related to xrandr --listproviders, --listmonitors etc does print "Can't open display desktop:0"
[10:58] <DarekDeo_> any idea what I am doing wrong? The builtin monitor does work (its laptop), external monitor works too, so why xrandr prints errors
[11:27] <LordDragon> hey all
[11:27] <LordDragon> what would the easiest way be to run a command once a day?
[11:27] <LordDragon> automatically
[11:29] <BluesKaj> maybe a startup scrpit
[11:29] <BluesKaj> script even
[11:29] <LordDragon> i dont restart it much
[11:29] <BluesKaj> !cron
[11:29] <LordDragon> ok ill check into that. thanks BluesKaj
[11:30] <BluesKaj> np
[12:17] <madmanonmeds> what command is it that gets the sources  files in the terminal
[12:19] <BluesKaj> madmanonmeds, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:19] <LordDragon> hey guys. how would i run multiple command line commands in crontab ?
[12:27] <madmanonmeds> blueskaj: ect/apt directory does not exist
[12:27] <leftyfb> LordDragon: put them in a script or multiple cron jobs
[12:27] <leftyfb> madmanonmeds:  /etc/apt/ , not etc/apt
[12:27] <LordDragon> hmm ok
[12:28] <madmanonmeds> that is what i did
[12:28] <leftyfb> madmanonmeds: if /etc/apt doesn't exist, then you're not running ubuntu and you'll need to seek support from the distro you're running
[12:28] <BluesKaj> madmanonmeds, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <BluesKaj> copy and paste that into the console
[12:32] <madmanonmeds> ok I typed it wrong
[12:48] <melissa_> Hello. I want to create a custom LiveCD using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization . Is it still up to date?
[12:49] <anony11> Higuys
[12:49] <anony11> I can't find drivers for my Wi-Fi card and Touchscreen monitor, suggestions?
[12:50] <hellyeah> Ubuntu has any problem with bcm4313?
[12:51] <adroit_machine> anony11, what wifi card do you have on your computer?
[12:51] <anony11> I don't know... but i think it's a broadcom+bluetooth one
 what about the touchscreen tho?
[12:57] <adroit_machine> anony11: sorry couldn't help you there, I thought you were using a realtek wifi adapter
[12:58] <willdeberry> anony11: do you see any errors if you run dmesg | grep b43
[13:04] <anony11> No errors
 even the touchscreen is not working
[13:07] <willdeberry> anony11: usb touchscreen i assume?
[13:07] <anony11> No...
[13:07] <anony11> It's a 2-1 notebook
[13:08] <willdeberry> ah, then it probably is internal usb
[13:08] <willdeberry> have you looked into this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[13:08] <anony11> WEll, let's think about that later, what can i do for wifi?
[13:08] <willdeberry> for wifi, we really need to narrow down vendor
[13:09] <willdeberry> do you see the card via the output of lspci?
[13:10] <anony11> No..
[13:13] <anony11> I guess the year of the linux desktop will never come
[13:13] <eightfold> hi there. if i want to upgrade from 16.10 > 17.04, is there anything i should after update
[13:14] <eightfold> if i recalls things right, the repositories i had added manually were a mess after the last update
[13:14] <willdeberry> anony11: if it's not in lspci or lsusb, then it's not detecting the hardware at all thus nothing that the OS can do unless I am missing something
[13:14] <anony11> Since i got a Free Windows, because when it said "Do you agree to the terms and codition" i SCREAMED "I DO NOT AGREE" and it just installed
[13:14] <anony11> So my version of windows is FREE and OPEN SOURCE
[13:16] <anony11> It was just because i found the logo cool
[13:16] <anony11> I did use servers, and those are great, but desktop use
[13:16] <anony11> NO! Never.
[13:47] <TheWild> Unix started in 1969? OMG, it's 48 years!
[13:55] <VinceVon> hey all, got some questions regarding bluetooth on 17.04 (upgraded from 16.04)
[13:55] <VinceVon> got a few issues
[13:55] <VinceVon> 1 - When I boot, my headphones connect but don't show in the Sound app
[13:55] <VinceVon> I've got pulseaudio's module-bluetooth-discover running correctly, so if I reboot a few times, it works
[13:55] <VinceVon> 2 - when it manages to connect to my headphones, I cannot connect to A2DP Sink
[13:56] <VinceVon> Using Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 on a Dell XPS 15 9530
[13:57] <VinceVon> can anyone help me?
[13:57] <VinceVon> it seems this stuff started happening on 15.04, I scoured various search engines and stack overflow for a solution, to no avail
[13:59] <BluesKaj> using bluez
[14:00] <VinceVon> yes
[14:06] <VinceVon> @BluesKaj yes
[14:06] <kanupatar> I was reading the KASLR feature in linux kernel, I am confused with how it will be tested in a linux machine/ubuntu..Is this part of kernel now a days?
[14:09] <arun007> How to avoid NetworkManager creating new profiles each time I connect using usb tethering
[14:10] <BluesKaj> VinceVon, all i know about A2DP Sink is that it uses bluez,. My 'phones are wireless, but connected to my audio system which is also has a spdif connection from my pc
[14:11] <arun007> :(
[14:12] <BluesKaj> arun007, usb tethering to what kind of device?
[14:18] <Joeycummens> I need help badly
[14:18] <kanupatar> Sorry, i am back
[14:18] <arun007> BluesKaj: PC
[14:20] <Joeycummens> So i uninstalled unbuntu in windows 7 because i needed 7 for something and i could not acess that for a myriad of reasons. Anyway, i am on the grub rescue screen. I do not have a windows 7 disk (i downloaded it legally and i formatted it my idiot self)
[14:20] <madmanonmeds> Blueskaj:that takes me to a directory list on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <BluesKaj> well. arun007 that certainly doesn't tell us much
[14:21] <BluesKaj> madmanonmeds, what does ?
[14:21] <Joeycummens> I tried everything: sudo  install mbr, syslinjx, boot-repair, etc
[14:22] <arun007> BluesKaj: the problem is I set dns on wired connection 1, when I rebbot connection becomes wired connection 2 and so on
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !repositories | madmanonmeds
[14:24] <BluesKaj> arun007, try setting your dns in  /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[14:25] <pankaj> Everytime I remove an application from my Computer I notice that free size is always larger then the installed size. Why?
[14:25] <mzaza> I have a problem I have added an entry to the sudoers.d file and I messed it up, now I can't fix it because I can't use sudo or even login using 'sudo -i', here's the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/25319180/
[14:26] <arun007> pankaj: That's because packages are highly compressed
[14:26] <pankaj> arun007: OK
[14:27] <kanupatar> hi all, whether Kernel ASLR is safe?
[14:29] <pankaj> WHat does it mean when somebody says that my destro of linux is built on other. Like, Linux-mint is built on ubuntu and ubuntu on Debian. Please correct me if something is wrong.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> mzaza, can you login to vt/tty. and use nano to edit the file using sudo visudo
[14:30] <madmanonmeds> ubottu: that helped,
[14:30] <mzaza> BluesKaj: I can't use the sudo command
[14:31] <mzaza> BluesKaj: It is an AWS instance.
[14:32] <mzaza> BluesKaj: What I have understood so far is that I will have to force shutdown my instance from my AWS dashboard, de-attach the volume, attach it to other instance, then login to that instance and fix the file. Is that the easiest way?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> mzaza, I have no experience with aws
[14:33] <mzaza> BluesKaj: But you have with Linux ;) No other way to fix that error from within shell?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> you can try with su perhaps
[14:35] <BluesKaj> or add your self back to the sudo group
[14:35] <BluesKaj> adduser yourusername sudo
[14:39] <kraiskil> I try to add 'blacklist snd_hda_codec_hdmi' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but on next boot, the driver is installed. Would anyone have an idea why blacklisting of it fails? blacklisting other drivers there does work.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> kraiskil, are you trying to block audio thru hdmi ?
[14:41] <mzaza> BluesKaj: To add myself to the sudoers, I need to use sudo
[14:42] <kraiskil> BluesKaj, sort of :) Trying to work-around some PCI-MSI bug in a custom audio HW. I'm trying to find out which driver breaks it
[14:43] <kraiskil> BluesKaj, if I blacklist my own driver, and manually load it, everything works. But if I try to load it automatically, it borks.
[14:43] <kraiskil> *manually load it after boot, from console
[14:45] <BluesKaj> kraiskil, snd-hda-intel ?
[14:48] <kraiskil> BluesKaj, I'll try that too. I got my device to work if I purge all of NVidia (binaryblob) drivers, so I suspect that card is the second culprit here. But I'm pretty baffeled atm...
[14:50] <BluesKaj> that's the intel audio driver
[14:51] <BluesKaj> kraiskil, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel to see if there's any output
[14:51] <kraiskil> BluesKaj, yeah. Thanks for the tip - blacklisting that driver too, the _codec_hdmi is gone. Now my driver says 'device or resource busy'. But at least it don't crash :)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> kraiskil,well which audio chip are you trying to use ?
[14:53] <kraiskil> and manually running 'modprobe snd_hda_intel', and my device works.
[14:53] <kraiskil> BluesKaj, http://www.fouraudio.com/de/produkte/dante-pcie-karte.html
[14:53] <kraiskil> so "custom" HW, custom kernel driver :|
[14:57] <BluesKaj> kraiskil, that looks a lot like my m-audio audiophile 192 card..i just blacklisted snd-hda-audio in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf,
[14:57] <kraiskil> trying that now
[14:58] <BluesKaj> as root
[14:58] <BluesKaj> well, with root permissions on 'buntu
[15:00] <kraiskil> hmm... not as simple as that
[15:04] <BluesKaj> depending on your uefi/bios , you can also try disabling the audio codec there, it refers to the onboard intel audio chip afaik
[15:05] <kraiskil> ah, that might help
[15:06] <eightfold> hi there. if i want to upgrade from 16.10 > 17.04, is there anything i should after update
[15:06] <eightfold> if i recalls things right, the repositories i had added manually were a mess after the last update
[15:07] <BluesKaj> kraiskil, are you using pulse audio because I suspect the Danta card will need it for flash audio on websites
[15:08] <kraiskil> pulseaudio is not running on this box
[15:10] <BluesKaj> my m-audio card required pulse for website flash audio due to alsa not connecting properly without it
[15:10] <kraiskil> yeah, this is a mess :)
[15:11] <BluesKaj> the ICE1724 driver was lacking that feature
[15:11] <kraiskil> anyways, got it to work now, I think. First blacklisted the dante driver, then force-loaded it in /etc/rc.local
[15:11] <kraiskil> a bit of an ugly hack, but I think I'll drop the supplier a mail and leave the mopping up to them :p
[15:13] <BluesKaj> did you remove the blacklist on the Dante?
[15:13] <mzaza> I want this command "service php7.0-fpm reload" to run without prompeting for password. I tried this solution, "ubuntu ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service" adding this to the visudo with no luck.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> where  did you add it mzaza, it's important that you add it just below the sudo line
[15:15] <BluesKaj> err %sudo
[15:16] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:17] <kraiskil> BluesKaj, no, dante is
[15:17] <kraiskil> oh.. .nvm then :D
[15:17] <mzaza> bruce549: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25319452/
[15:17] <mzaza> bruce549: WOPS :D
[15:17] <mzaza> kraiskil: Can you help :D ?
[15:21] <mzaza> Anyone?
[15:23] <mzaza> All dead
[15:23] <mzaza> IRC is turning to zombieland, and i'm the only survivor.
[15:24] <pavlos> mzaza: if you run that line /usr/sbin/service php7.0-fpm reload by itself, does it run?
[15:24] <nemo> you know, on IRC is polite to wait more than a minute or two ☺
[15:25] <mzaza> pavlos: Yes, it just require authentication. Authentication is required to restart 'php7.0-fpm.service'.
[15:25] <mzaza> Authenticating as: Ubuntu (ubuntu)
[15:26] <EriC^^> mzaza: try ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD:...
[15:27] <himom> when I try to grow an NTFS partition with Gparted I get this error: Volume is full. To shrink it, delete unused files
[15:27] <pavlos> mzaza: the command is ok, the entry in sudo is the last line (sudo executes top/bottom
[15:27] <himom> what could be causing this?
[15:30] <nemo> himom: feels like it needs to do some copies to move files around perhaps, or write updated file table.  are you really at 100%?  and are you by any chance also rearranging partition order?
[15:30] <nemo> may be an order of operation issue
[15:30] <rmoore> Hello. I just installed Zesty on a Dell Optiplex and can not get any sound out of headphones. Interestingly enough, they worked fine under Windows so I know that the jack is still operational.
[15:30] <himom> nemo: I have only one partition on that drive and the rest is just unused space. I'm trying to grow that partition
[15:31] <nemo> himom: and is that partition totally full? such that things like fsck or other routine stuff would fail?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> kraiskil, are you using this card for mixdowns from an audioboard
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:31] <himom> nemo: oooh yes, it's almost full. So I need to free some space on it and that will fix the problem?
[15:32] <nemo> himom: that'd be my guess
[15:32] <nemo> himom: just delete some random temp junk
[15:32] <mzaza> EriC^^: Still same problem.
[15:32] <mzaza> pavlos: So You want me to add the line to the buttom file?
[15:33] <pavlos> mzaza: are you on 16.04 ? no, the includedir is commended out
[15:36] <pavlos> mzaza: is user ubuntu part of sudo group?
[15:36] <himom> nemo: that solved, thanks!
[15:36] <himom> can I somehow remount a partition using the config from fstab without rebooting?
[15:36] <mzaza> pavlos: I will check, but I can use the sudo fine from user ubuntu.
[15:38] <mzaza> pavlos: No it's not, it has to be right :D ?
[15:38] <nemo> himom: np, although that was what the error message told you to do 😉
[15:40] <pavlos> mzaza: add it, logout/login, and try again
[15:40] <himom> nemo: yes, you are right, but I thought the message was wrong. I would expect such message to appear when I'm shrinking one partition to grow another. I didn't think it was required to have free space on a partition I want to grow :)
[15:41] <nemo> himom: well.  gparted is super cautiou w/ NTFS and always does fsck first I think
[15:41] <himom> nemo: yeah, that's when it failed
[15:42] <himom> nemo: can I somehow mount a partition using settings from fstab without rebooting?
[15:42] <nemo> sure
[15:42] <nemo> can always manually mount
[15:43] <mzaza> pavlos: OK, with the same visudo output I sent you, and after adding the user 'ubuntu' to the group 'sudo' I still get the same error.
[15:43] <nemo> himom: another thought is, besides fsck, is that a totally full disc still has metadata that might need updating if you grew it - so probably would need room to write that
[15:43] <nemo> himom: NTFS MFT and such
[15:44] <pavlos> mzaza: it you type id and logged on as user ubuntu, you should see group 27. if not, logout/login
[15:44] <himom> nemo: I didn't think of that. But wait isn't there some reserved space on the hard drive that can't be overwritten dedicated to such things?
[15:44] <mzaza> pavlos: I can see it.
[15:44] <nemo> himom: well. yeah. that's the file table file 😉  doesn't mean you can grow it if you are at 100%
[15:45] <mzaza> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25319554/
[15:45] <himom> nemo: oh ok :). I thought that this is the reason why we get ripped off when buying any drive. When you buy a 1TB drive you get like 800GB
[15:46] <nemo> himom: hm? I've never had that happen - although ofc w/ the new GPT/UEFI crap there can be a ton of nonsense in system partitions
[15:46] <nemo> himom: and ofc on a brand new computer with windows they often have a recovery partition
[15:47] <nemo> 'cause, you know, they don't ship CDs anymore
[15:47] <nemo> all that nonsense (esp the windows recovery) can take a ton of space
[15:48] <nemo> himom: personally I'm usually shrinking NTFS partitions on new laptops, not growing them ☺  get that windows down as small as possible, which is usually still ridiculously large even after uninstalling bloatware, turning off services, defragging, disabling checkpoints, removing swap file..
[15:48] <himom> nemo: it definitely happened to me on Windows, but I just checked and it doesn't happen on Ubuntu. It must be all that recover crap as you say
[15:50] <himom> nemo: why do you want Windows to be as small as possible :D? I agree that it takes a lot of space though. I remember that Win 8 took like 50-80GB with all the updates and Ubuntu takes like 30GB
[15:50] <nemo> himom: 'cause I usually just keep it on the computer in case of warranty service or possible retail
[15:50] <nemo> himom: I usually have no reason to ever boot it up
[15:50] <himom> nemo: oh that makes sense
[15:51] <nemo> himom: ubuntu can operate in far smaller space than that. my ubuntu chroot on my android phone is a 4 gig file, and that's just 'cause I like to have full desktop env plus my developer tools
[15:51] <himom> nemo: it's a really good idea. I would have just removed it completely forgetting about warranty
[15:51] <nemo> firefox, libreoffice, *-dev libs etc etc
[15:52] <nemo> himom: if you remove the bloatware/checkpoints/swap/halt services/defrag then shrink it w/ gparted you can usually get a modern windows down to <20 gigs
[15:52] <himom> nemo: ubuntu on android? how does that work?
[15:52] <nemo> ahrd to do better than that tho
[15:52] <nemo> himom: well. android is a linux kernel. so linux chroots work fine on it - works way better if rooted ofc.
[15:52] <himom> nemo: wow, below 20GB?!
[15:52] <mzaza> pavlos: lost hope :D?
[15:52] <pavlos> mzaza: cant think of something else ...
[15:53] <himom> nemo: what do you mean by chroot?
[15:53] <nemo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[15:54] <nemo> but typical way to do it on android is to fire up linux user environment by mounting an iso that contains a full filesystem, but using the usual /dev mount and kernel from the android host
[15:54] <nemo> himom: it's not that different from recovering an ubuntu machine using a usb boot
[15:54] <himom> nemo: so you get a full normal desktop OS on android?
[15:55] <nemo> yes
[15:55] <himom> woooow
[15:55] <himom> awesome!
[15:55] <nemo> himom: you can connect to it using vnc, but I prefer to use XSDL
[15:55] <nemo> cool thing is, on my note 4, the stylus works like a mouse - even has right click. that plus a bluetooth keyboard turns my note 4 into an ubuntu desktop
[15:55] <himom> omg amazing!
[15:56] <himom> and android doesn't even "know" that you are using another OS?
[15:56] <nemo> why would android care ☺
[15:56] <himom> :D
[15:56] <nemo> google safetynet screws you on running root ofc
[15:57] <nemo> himom: you can also dual boot android, but I wasn't willing to risk screwing that up on my main phone
[15:57] <nemo> himom: also ubuntu guys regrettably abandoned their phone OS ☹
[15:57] <nemo> ditto mozilla
[15:57] <himom> nemo: nice! what would you dual boot with though?
[15:57] <nemo> android is just too dominant
[15:57] <nemo> himom: those... ☺
[15:57] <nemo> himom: for my purposes a standard ubuntu desktop works just fine
[15:57] <himom> nemo: it's a shame they abandoned it
[15:58] <himom> nemo: so you have to boot android but you can use any linux distro you want on it?
[15:58] <nemo> my note 4 is 2560x1440 retina, so I launch XSDL using 1280x720
[15:58] <nemo> himom: yep
[15:58] <himom> nemo: you can't run it fullscreen?
[15:59] <nemo> would be too unreadable w/ desktop apps
[15:59] <nemo> 1280x720 is totally fine for a desktop. your laptop prob has that resolution
[15:59] <himom> nemo: I see
[15:59] <nemo> I mean. it is "fullscreen" just scaled up 2x
[15:59] <himom> nemo: ooh
[15:59] <himom> nemo: but it's ok to read?
[15:59] <nemo> yeah. sure
[16:00] <nemo> maybe a bit on small side. xsdl lets you pick font/resolution on startup if you have bad eyes 😉
[16:00] <nemo> or a small phone 😝
[16:00] <himom> nice :)
[16:00] <himom> it's shame ubuntu mobile isn't gonna happen
[16:01] <himom> android isn't fully open source is it?
[16:01]  * tgm4883 nudges himom and nemo toward #ubuntu-discuss
[16:01] <nicomachus> himom: no, but there are open source roms out there. But that's off-topic for this channel.
[16:01] <himom> ok I see
[16:03] <himom> so you could run some open source android rom, then ubuntu or other disto on that and you would get a normal desktop OS on a phone, with open source software only
[16:04] <himom> is Ubuntu entirely open source?
[16:06] <himom> because Debian advertises itself as made only of free software, so it must be open source, but Ubuntu isn't all free software, so does that mean it's not fully open source?
[16:08] <nemo> himom: ubuntu offers the option to install closed source packages
[16:09] <nemo> himom: that's what jockey-gtk is for example
[16:09] <nemo> himom: and ofc ubuntu software centre has partnerships offering apps for sale
[16:09] <nemo> himom: so I guess the answer is "depends what you mean by 'Ubuntu'" ☺
[16:10] <himom> nemo: I see. So some packages in the repo are closed source and the user has no way of knowing?
[16:11] <nemo> himom: it's clearly marked
[16:11] <nemo> you can opt out of non-free
[16:11] <nemo> go to repositories in ubuntu software centre or synaptic
[16:12] <nemo> himom: uncheck (restricted) and (multiverse)
[16:12] <ratstelnet> testing
[16:13] <ratstelnet>  testing testing
[16:13] <himom> nemo: thanks, good to know! are they checked by default?
[16:13] <nemo> himom: synaptic has a nice "origin" filter if you want to see what you have there already
[16:13] <nemo> himom: not sure what the defaults are these days... installer might prompt you?
[16:13] <nemo> pretty sure it prompts
[16:14] <himom> nemo: I think it does
[16:14] <himom> nemo: can I check which repos I have enabled via terminal?
[16:15] <nemo> himom: sure. /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:15] <nemo> and sources.list.d
[16:19] <himom> has anyone had this problem before? https://pastebin.com/RYq1kk99
[16:19] <himom> I have a lot of problems :/
[16:20] <nemo> interesting
[16:20] <nemo> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193802  aaaand pasting your error into search yields...
[16:21] <nemo> himom: specifically responses 5 and 7
[16:22] <himom> ehh I remember now that I've had a similar problem before and had to remove files then as well
[16:22] <himom> long time ago
[16:23] <himom> I guess nobody bothered to fix it
[16:23] <himom> but thanks I will try that
[16:28] <himom> it worked!
[16:33] <nemo> himom: WAG it was fixed upstream, but the base steam package hasn't been updated.  so you needed to do that to pull the fixes in
[16:34] <nemo> since steam seems to update itself like once a week
[16:36] <himom> nemo: I've downloaded Steam from their website a few months ago and I've updated it many times
[16:40] <aurelien> hello #ubuntu ... on 14.04 LTS does the kernel after installation see wifi stuff? (it does not on the live one)
[16:42] <aurelien> nmcli version of the 14.04 does not see the wifi hardware
[16:42] <nemo> aurelien: probably depends on your wifi
[16:42] <kostkon> aurelien, in theory it should recognise your wifi on both
[16:42] <aurelien> hmm
[16:42] <nemo> aurelien: broadcom?
[16:42] <aurelien> ok so ... it will not after installation
[16:43] <aurelien> intel
[16:43] <aurelien> intel wireless 3165
[16:44] <aurelien> well thanks ... I'll find another way ;-)
[16:45] <kostkon> well ok
[16:47] <himom> I have one more problem with my Ubuntu installation
[16:48] <Bashing-om> himom: Most times we do come up with solutions :)
[16:50] <himom> I gave up on it and I'm gonna install Debian, but before I do I'm curious what caused it and I still don't know. I get artifacts in some 3D applications. I tried 16.04.1 live CD and it doesn't have that problem, 16.04.3 does, but only in one application and only partially. I'm on 17.04, I've tried different kernels and my xorg version is the same as the one in LTS version
[16:53] <himom> it all started around the time I upgraded from 16.10 to 17.04. In some games I get black textures, in others some other weird stuff. It doesn't happen in all 3D applications, but in most. I use i3 window manager, but when I switched to the default one nothing has changed
[16:57] <nicomachus> himom: I think everyone here has exhausted themselves on this issue.
[17:00] <himom> nicomachus: yes, I know, but still no solution. I will install another OS as you suggested, but I was hoping someone would find an explanation, so that I could fix it when it happens in the future
[17:00] <TheOneMenzie> himom: Probably has to do with your GPU. If you have the latest drivers, and you're still getting artifacts, well...
[17:01] <himom> TheOneMenzie: I'm using the default radeon driver. My GPU is radeon r7 250x
[17:01] <himom> TheOneMenzie: this is not a hardware problem, because it's working fine on Ubuntu 16.04.1
[17:03] <TheOneMenzie> Well, 16.04 had fglrx
[17:04] <himom> TheOneMenzie: no, I think it's gone since 14.x
[17:04] <TheOneMenzie> Oh maybe it was
[17:04] <TheOneMenzie> Forgot exactly when we got rid of it
[17:04] <TheOneMenzie> !fglrx
[17:05] <himom> does that mean it's supported in 16.04?
[17:05] <TheOneMenzie> Is your card too old for amdgpu?
[17:06] <TheOneMenzie> Is your card too old for amdgpu?
[17:06] <himom> amdgpu-pro doesn't work with newer kernels, so doesn't support 17.04, I don't think it supports my GPU either, because I tried it once on 16.04 and it didn't work
[17:07] <TheOneMenzie> Well, you said you were installing Debian... Try it there maybe (and get support in #debian for that)
[17:07] <himom> yeah I will do that :)
[17:07] <himom> thanks for help anyway
[17:10] <TheOneMenzie> Has EOL been declared for 16.10 yet? It's been slightly over 9 months.
[17:11] <nacc> TheOneMenzie: yes
[17:11] <himom> July 20, 2017
[17:11] <himom> source: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-16-10-end-of-life
[17:11] <TheOneMenzie> K...
[17:12] <TheOneMenzie> Just gotta poke someone with a hat :)
[17:13] <himom> Fedora?
[17:13] <silenus> Hi, when you associate extension file to open by default (thunar/right click/Properties/Open with) : which file is used to store this choice? (not found in /.local/share/applications.) Thanks !
[17:14] <TheOneMenzie> himom: No, just the Ubuntu ops team
[17:14] <silenus> sorry, channel error.
[17:14] <himom> TheOneMenzie: why?
[17:14] <TheOneMenzie> silenus: You'd be looking for xdg-mime anyway :)
[17:15] <TheOneMenzie> himom: Because it's still in the topic as a supported release
[17:15] <himom> TheOneMenzie: :D
[17:18] <silenus> TheOneMenzie : thanks
[17:21] <fission6> i am trying to update a startup script on 10.04, i am finding scripts in /etc/init any ideas what start up system this OS version is using
[17:22] <fission6> looks like File: `/proc/1/exe' -> `/sbin/init' what does that mean
[17:24] <gabrielc> fission6: /etc/init.d/* ?
[17:24] <fission6> what system is that?
[17:24] <fission6> upstart? sysv
[17:24] <fission6> gabrielc
[17:26] <eelstrebor> has anyone found a way to make the amdgpu driver to work properly? sometimes it works ok and sometimes i get a blank screen. doesn't seem to be any fixes for this - at least nothing i can find - amd website doesn't even have drivers listed for the carrizo family - xorg isn't much help either
[17:29] <Magissia> Greetings, why releasing kernel 4.11 for 16.04 if drivers does not compile for it ? (In particular, bcmwl)
[17:30] <Magissia> I see this non compiling problem was resolved for zesty and higher, but trusty was forgotten
[17:32] <jfcl> hello
[17:32] <jfcl> is Tilda really needed?
[17:32] <jfcl> or I can remove it from the startup applications
[17:32] <trux> if i update the ubuntu from software updater of previous version of ubuntu(my partitions would be deleted n files in it) Please let me know?
[17:33] <Magissia> Where should I report bcmwl drivers not building when using 4.11 kernel on 16.04 ?
[17:43] <Bashing-om> Magissia: Broadcom is proprietary . Talk to the Broadcom peeps .
[17:43] <emi71> Hello. Problem with wireless LAN (Toshiba satellite):  chipset Realtek RTL8723AE don't work with ubuntu 16.04. I've read a lot of posts in forums but don't solve. someone can help me?
[17:43] <gabrielc> fission6: i don't have an ubuntu 10.04 to guide you
[17:43] <Vladimirski> Trying to find a server virtualization environment to install on Ubuntu server, any recommendations? (proxmox is not supported on ubuntu..)
[17:49] <jazwec> hey guys. I have a problem with laptop speakers not working after sleeping or suspend. It switches sound devices from speakers to headphones, the speakers are listen as unavailable in pavucontrol and the headphones dont work even if i connect them afterwards. reloading alsa or restarting pulseaudio doesnt work, only thing that works is reboot
[17:50] <jazwec> I have this problem on linux mint, but since I found this problem is quite common on ubuntu distributions aswell, i thought i might ask here...if anyone have any experience with this, your help would be much appreciated. thanks
[17:57] <oerheks> jazwec, linux mint uses cinnamon, right?
[17:58] <jazwec> oerheks, yes
[17:59] <oerheks> you should really ask the mint guys, mint has its own issues
[17:59] <SimonNL> jazwec: get back in -help
[18:00] <SimonNL> you were gone before I could answer
[18:00] <dlam> my touchpad usually works, but sometimes dosent on boot:  is there a command to "restart" it or something?  restart synaptics?
[18:01] <dlam> (i usually fix it by just rebooting)
[18:01] <oerheks> dlam, is there a FN + mouse/touchpad key?
[18:01] <oerheks> that might be your fix..
[18:03] <dlam> haha... ok i do   but pushing it it only appears to disable it,  not toggle it on/off
[18:05] <coolstar> hi, I'm unable to boot the Ubuntu live installer USB on my Lenovo Yoga 720
[18:05] <coolstar> I select boot kubuntu in GRUB and it just hangs
[18:05] <coolstar> I also tried installing Ubuntu to an external SSD from another computer. Once installed it seems to boot most of the time but sometimes it hangs when I select it in GRUB
[18:06] <oerheks> coolstar, known issue, that yoga 720 got a windows UEFI bios standard, not sutable for linux, see the yoga site for the linux bios, but carefull, they won't support it if something goes wrond
[18:07] <coolstar> oerheks: why does the bios need to be changed?
[18:07] <coolstar> this issue only seems to happen with ubuntu; Arch Linux booted fine off its installer USB
[18:07] <oerheks> i am looking for the article..
[18:09] <pavlos> coolstar: some info on linux mint ... https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=250953
[18:09] <coolstar> pavlos: I've already set the SATA mode to AHCI
[18:10] <emi71> Hello. Problem with wireless LAN (Toshiba satellite): chipset Realtek RTL8723AE don't work with ubuntu 16.04. I've read a lot of posts in forums but don't solve. someone can help me?
[18:10] <coolstar> also another thing I noticed; I have another USB drive with rEFInd
[18:10] <coolstar> if I boot rEFInd first and then boot the installed kubuntu from it it boots reliably no problem
[18:11] <coolstar> the boot hang issue only seems to happen with GRUB
[18:13] <oerheks> coolstar, oh, not the ahci bug... https://support.lenovo.com/nl/en/forumkb/ll06_en@tkb!!3466850
[18:13] <oerheks> 710 only, and the 900..
[18:15] <craigbass76> Anyone using fluxbox? I'm trying to get a top and bottom taskbar like I used to in GNOME2 and XFCE
[18:15] <coolstar> oerheks: it seems that bios only adds the AHCI option to the 710 (which my Yoga 720 already has)
[18:15] <oerheks> coolstar, yes, i mixed up..
[18:16] <coolstar> it seems there's some problem with GRUB
[18:17] <coolstar> as once I installed it to an external SSD from another computer, I can boot Kubuntu from rEFInd
[18:17] <coolstar> but trying to boot it from GRUB seems to hang
[18:21] <oerheks> hmm there is no mention about grub issues or special parameters .. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/6dml6i/ubuntu_1704_on_lenovo_yoga_720_15_inch/
[18:27] <emi71> coolstar, oeherks can you help me?
[18:29] <oerheks> emi71, realtek is a real problem maker, but there is a long post about your issue: build the driver yourself .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/763797/how-to-install-rtl8723ae-driver-on-ubuntu-16-04
[18:30] <oerheks> ( but even with that driver there are complaints about speed and connecting...)
[18:30] <oerheks> solution, buy a intel wifi internal card
[18:32] <emi71> thanks oerheks
[18:33] <emi71> I know this post, don't work
[18:33] <neldogz> s there a way to determine all Linux distributions that are running on a network? I have tried nmap but that doesn't tell me distribution
[18:42] <oerheks> neldogz, nmap seems to have os-detection, i am not sure that is works https://nmap.org/book/man.html
[18:45] <MagicFab> neldogz, yes, with fingerpring scanning. For example nmap -sV -O -v $IP_ADDRESS - see https://superuser.com/questions/674603/how-to-interpret-tcp-ip-fingerprint-when-scanning-for-os
[19:00] <madmanonmeds> hello
[19:17] <infotek> i just apt update; apt upgrade; apt autoremove; an ubuntu server and now keyboard and network are non functional.
[19:21] <nemo> infotek: welp... check log to see what you removed I guess
[19:24] <ubuntulover69696> hello guys! so I have a mediacenter pc running ubuntu with an nvidia gfx card plugged into my projector via hdmi. all is perfectly fine except one quirk. if I leave my mediacenter pc running then turn my projector off then back on, the pc doesn't detect it and output to the projector anymore. I can only get it to comeback via a reboot. I checked the box to autodetect new displays to no avail. any idea on what I can do to fi
[19:40] <infotek> nemo: i have no keyboard, so checking logs is an interesting endeavor.
[19:46] <sansay> hey guys, what is the proper way to disable varnish log service on ubuntu, should i just comment this out: ExecStart=/usr/bin/varnishlog -a -w /var/log/varnish/varnish.log in /lib/systemd/system/varnishlog.service ?
[19:46] <craigbass76> infotek, are you able to ssh into it?
[19:48] <infotek> craigbass76: nope the added benefit of the update is that it took out networking also :)
[19:48] <infotek> this is a supermicro server with kvm... the keyboard works in bios and at grub.
[19:49] <infotek> after the kernel takes over the keyboard becomes ineffective.  i have a feeling a kernel option might help or a different kernel version.
[19:49] <craigbass76> Bah....
[19:50] <TheOnlyBouncer> Ohai, question, i have just installed a RX560 in my system running Ubuntu 17.04 with latest amdgpu drivers but it does not seem to do OpenCL, any tips on how to enable this?
[19:53] <jhutchins_wk> TheOnlyBouncer: Search the out put of dmesg (dmesg | less) and look for problems loading the firmware.
[19:54] <TheOnlyBouncer> no firmware issues
[19:54] <TheOnlyBouncer> think i will just install the full driver from the website
[20:02] <Bashing-om> infotek: xorg issue ?? What about a recovery consple ? got funtions in that environment ?
[20:03] <Bashing-om> console*
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> craigbass76: Really more of a #varnish question than an Ubuntu question.
[20:13] <eliam> hi
[20:19] <madmanonmeds> can someone tell me how to get the source code to ubuntu loaded on my system
[20:19] <nicomachus> TheOnlyBouncer: you shouldn't do that.
[20:20] <oerheks> madmanonmeds, go into software & updates > sources > and enable source, update, done
[20:21] <Bashing-om> TheOnlyBouncer: Even nvidia : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/120917/en-us says do not that : Additional information: "Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than
[20:22] <Bashing-om> NVIDIA's official package." .
[20:24] <TheOnlyBouncer> nicomachus, apparently there is no other way to get OpenCL at the moment, so yeah
[20:24] <TheOnlyBouncer> works fine now
[20:28] <nicomachus> TheOnlyBouncer: fine, what do I know?
[20:28] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:29] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Always there are the "edge cases" huh .
[20:32] <nicomachus> I'm having some gpg issues. Error message says 'mpi larger than indicated length (2 bytes)' and then imports fail because of an invalid packet. Seems like an issue on the server-side but I'm not sure, because gpg isn't my thing. Anyone seen this error before? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25321170/
[20:33] <madmanonmeds> oerheks:where did it put them
[20:44] <oerheks> madeasy to find with bing/google ..
[20:44] <nickweb> I received a notifcation about my pgp key expiring. I set this up years ago in a long since lost ubuntu install. I dont have my private key. How can i get a copy or regenerate my private key?
[20:44] <oerheks> madmanonmeds ^
[20:44] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/466590/where-is-the-installed-kernel-source-located
[20:44] <oerheks> such easy answers, did you actually searched first for that answer???
[20:45] <oerheks> nickweb, i think you need to turn back the clock .. i have no idea if that can be done,regenerate keys
[20:45] <yosyp> I am on 12.04, what sources do I need to add to apt to install the python-asa package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-ase/3.14.1-2 ?
[20:46] <nickweb> cheers @oerheks - thats what I';ve found on google so far - was just in case someone else had a better idea... :(
[20:46] <oerheks> yosyp, 12.04 is dead, EOL, upgrade please, we do not support this anymore
[20:46] <oerheks> !12.04
[20:47] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[20:47] <oerheks> i would do a fresh install, but that is me.
[20:47] <yosyp> oerheks: ok will do. I should notify the Vagrant people, they're tutorials have everyone installing 12.04
[20:48] <oerheks> yosyp, oh boy .. yes please, do warn their docu team
[20:48] <oerheks> yosyp, but if you *really* need it, that eolupgrade gives a trick for 1 server that still has the repos
[21:07] <vimart>     
[21:15] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> I have Ubuntu configured as "For long-term support versions"  at "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" config option
[21:16] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> that's it since many months ago
[21:17] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> A month ago, i think, started to appear a Software Updater asking for a "Partial Upgrade"
[21:17] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> i noticed it wants me to Upgrade my 16.04 to a newer version
[21:18] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> i don't know why!
[21:18] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> it does that daily
[21:18] <budest> hey guys, anyone help me with a file transfer issue from an NAS to a ext4 partition?
[21:20] <MagicFab> budest, just ask
[21:21] <budest> MagicFab, thanks.
[21:21] <MagicFab> Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2, probably to go to 16.04.1 (point releases)?
[21:21] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> http://i.imgur.com/uQZdmkU.png
[21:21] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> MagicFab: it wants me to remove xscreensaver, i don't want to remove ir
[21:21] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> it*
[21:23] <budest> Trying to copy a TimeMachine backup folder from WD MyCloud drive to an ext4 formatted drive.  The transfer starts OK for about an hour then I get a ""Error in stream protocol: End of stream" message.  The reason for me wanting to transfer the folder is that I am unable to restore from it on the MyCloud as it times out also so both issues are related I feel.  Any ideas on what the Linux error means though?
[21:27] <tgm4883> Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2: a partial upgrade doesn't mean the next version, it means it can't upgrade all the packages that need upgrading (usually due to you adding third party repositories or PPAs). I wouldn't recommend doing the partial upgrade as you've noticed it wants to remove certain things
[21:27] <tgm4883> Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2: the correct response is to figure out exactly what was added that is causing this "partial upgrade" situation and to remedy that
[21:27] <gabrielc> budest: wd gives you tools to check the integrity of the disk and file system?
[21:28] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> i see
[21:28] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> thanks, tgm4883
[21:28] <tgm4883> yw
[21:28] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> i'll check it out!
[21:28] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> :)
[21:29] <budest> gabrielc: yeah it does, I've tried them and the drives integrity is fine as is its file structure. Thanks
[21:30] <gabrielc> budest: with which tool do you make the copy that fails?
[21:31] <budest> gabrielc: Drag and drop
[21:32] <tgm4883> budest: Not an answer to your question, but I'd use rsync to transfer large amounts of data/files since it would have the ability to only copy changes and basically resume where it left off
[21:33] <gabrielc> budest: is the copy made using wired network? wifi? usb to local disk? usb to usb?
[21:35] <budest> tgm4883: Noted, thanks. Can't help but think it may be TimeMachine related in that whatever way osx writes these files they somehow become 'protected' against transfer.  If the drive is OK then what else could it be?
[21:35] <budest> gabrielc: Wired, sorry.  NAS connected to Mac via ethernet.
[21:36] <gabrielc> budest: can you connect nas using usb?
[21:38] <nemo> infotek: oh. for some reason I was mentally assuming bluetooth kbd or wifi network or somesuch - no network of any kind, no kbd of any kind??
[21:38] <budest> gabrielc: No unfortunately.
[21:38] <nemo> infotek: does kbd still work in bios/grub at least?
[21:38] <nemo> infotek: such that you could fall back to an older kernel or boot to recovery
[21:38] <nemo> infotek: also. booting off recovery CD/USB could still get you those logs
[21:51] <sfdebug> hi, i have a ubuntu server that the terminal "sleeps" after sometime... does anyone know how to undo this "terminal sleep"?
[21:52] <EriC^^> sfdebug: you mean the screen goes black?
[21:52] <sfdebug> EriC^^, yes
[21:55] <sfdebug> EriC^^, i got it: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8056/disable-screen-blanking-on-text-console
[21:55] <sfdebug> Thanks! :-)
[21:56] <budest> Sorry guys
[21:58] <sfdebug> EriC^^, didn't work...
[21:59] <sfdebug> EriC^^, worked, the value that pass to the setterm -blank command is in minutes, not seconds...
[22:10] <fiord> Hey - anyone have time for a question about using an AMD R9 270X with Ubuntu Xenial?
[22:11] <leftyfb> !ask | fiord
[22:12] <fiord> OK here goes: I'm using an AMD R9 270X currently with Ubuntu 15.10, and I've heard that AMD driver support on 16.04 is shaky. I want to upgrade, but am curious about whether anyone has done so and what their results were like.
[22:16] <kostkon> fiord, 15.10 is eol so you've to upgrade either way
[22:17] <fiord> kostkon, yea, this is true. I've been delaying, hoping for pitcairn support from AMDGPU-PRO but I think the time has come to just take the plunge.
[22:18] <kostkon> fiord, just upgrade and hope for the best
[22:18] <fiord> OK, you've convinced me.
[22:19] <fiord> Gonna go do it.
[22:20] <kostkon> fiord, are you going for a clean install or release upgrade?
[22:30] <Shirakawasuna> Hey there. Does anyone here know how to set up a simple log-archiving system? I'd like to save all logs for a particular service (caddy), and it's not clear what my best avenue is. Simply relaxing log rotation settings is *okay*, but ideally I want something like daily log files named by date or a database. Thanks!
[22:39] <leftyfb> Shirakawasuna: look into logstash or logstalgia or other logging solutions
[22:44] <yongo> how to connect android 7 phone to ubuntu via USB? tried both gmtp and jmtpfs, both did not work
[22:45] <fishcooker> @ubuntu box how to redirect all incoming packets to another ubuntu host to specific port
[22:45] <Shirakawasuna> leftyfb, logstash looks cool. It might be a little heavier than I was hoping for, though - it looks like a web server I need to install dependencies for + set up. Any chance there's a more popular/simple tool that's likely available in the default repos?
[22:46] <leftyfb> fishcooker: iptables
[22:46] <[n0mad]> yongo: i just plug in my phone
[22:46] <leftyfb> Shirakawasuna: logrotate
[22:47] <yongo> n0mad: my phone is plugged in
[22:47] <yongo> it's charging...
[22:47] <[n0mad]> when i first plug in my phone it's in charging mode and i have to change it on the phone through the notification
[22:47] <leftyfb> Shirakawasuna: look up dateex
[22:48] <[n0mad]> but then when i change it to transfer files i can see it in nautilus
[22:48] <Shirakawasuna> leftyfb, I'm stuck with systemd/journald, so I'm guessing logrotate wouldn't help (they supercede it right?)
[22:48] <yongo> there was no notification. i know what you mean, that was the behaviour on my old phone. now with my new phone there is no such notification anymore
[22:49] <[n0mad]> yongo: maybe if you enable developer options? tap on build number a bunch of times in about phone settings
[22:49] <Shirakawasuna> unfortunately I'm not finding anything about a 'dateex'
[22:49] <[n0mad]> and then maybe there's a setting in developer options to change it
[22:50] <tgm4883> Shirakawasuna: if it's spitting it out to log files, then logrotate will work find
[22:50] <tgm4883> fine*
[22:51] <fishcooker> noted leftyfb : iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 123 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.2:123
[22:51] <Shirakawasuna> yeah I think it's sending the data to syslog as well, which ends up in /var/log files
[22:51] <fishcooker> is on destination should imply the udp port also?
[22:52] <yongo> [n0mad], I'm now a developer
[22:53] <yongo> nothing happens..
[22:53] <[n0mad]> yongo: mine has a setting in developer options that is "Select USB Configuration"
[22:54] <obZen> Are there still Mac-specific images for Ubuntu?
[22:54] <[n0mad]> i'm on a nexus 6p so i'm seeing default android
[22:54] <yongo> [n0mad], right, i can choose between charge only, MTP, PTP, RNDIS (USB Ethernet), Audio Source and MIDI
[22:55] <yongo> MTP was pre selected
[22:55] <[n0mad]> yongo: try changing it while it's plugged in. maybe it will make a difference
[22:56] <[n0mad]> like change it to charging only then back to mtp. if that doesn't work, try to do the same with USB debugging enabled
[22:57] <[n0mad]> if that doesn't work, i'm not really sure.
[22:58] <yongo> [n0mad], tried that. funny thing is when i enter the configuration menu and change my selection, the preview in the main menu still says MTP, no matter what
[22:58] <nacc> obZen: which release?
[22:58] <[n0mad]> weird
[22:58] <yongo> but no popup for accessing usb storage
[22:58] <obZen> Latest
[22:58] <obZen> 17.04 and on
[22:58] <[n0mad]> what kind of phone is this yongo
[22:58] <obZen> I just found a bug report that confirms that it's no longer needed
[22:58] <obZen> Which is pretty cool
[22:59] <yongo> huawei p9 lite 2017
[22:59] <nacc> obZen: 17.04 says (at least based upon the iso page) that intel image should work fine (i386). Dunno if the 64-bit does
[23:00] <yongo> google wants me to use their drive rly bad huh
[23:04] <bugaloo> Hi everyone. quick question about process priority. There are a few processes I want to renice to a better priority everytime I use my ubuntu/unity. Is there any way to set all processes to a nice level? Like... every process started by some specific user starts with "nice -12" or something?
[23:04] <[n0mad]> yongo: it seems that you're not the only one as there's a recent post in this thread https://androidforums.com/threads/cannot-transfer-files-from-computer-to-huawei-p9-lite-by-means-of-windows-explorer.1044591/
[23:05] <[n0mad]> and that's in windows
[23:07] <nacc> bugaloo: /etc/security/limits.conf, you can set the nice priority for a specific user
[23:07] <nacc> bugaloo: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/44490/how-can-i-make-all-my-processes-start-with-niceness-5
[23:07] <bugaloo> nacc, perfect. I'll have a look. thanks!
[23:08] <yongo> [n0mad], wow, my bad. i didn't know there were usb charge-only cables. i picked a different cable, now it works. thanks for the!
[23:08] <yongo> the 'link'
[23:08] <[n0mad]> oh wow! awesome, i was about to ask but just figured i'd share the link
[23:10] <yongo> [n0mad], even works without developer mode :)
[23:11] <nacc> bugaloo: yw
[23:11] <[n0mad]> yeah, that's cool. i guess android is smart enough to know data transfer isn't possible
[23:23] <Barones> in a icmpv6 packet why does icmpv6 need to be in neighbor discovery protocol? it only carries redundant data...
[23:27] <strive> Barones: It's used to discover and obtain information from other nodes on the link.
[23:29] <Barones> strive, but neighbor discovery protocol doesnt already do that?
[23:31] <strive> Barones: That's the purpose of icmpv6.
[23:34] <strive> Barones: You could probably get clearer answers in #networking
[23:35] <Barones> strive, you are right, sorry I missed this channel with #networking
[23:35] <Barones> thanks strive
[23:35] <strive> Barones: np :)
[23:36] <GZA-Genius> Hey guys its been a while since I have been around, but I have always known a ubu install doesnt play well with nvidia gfx cards, I am far from an expert, but also far from a noob, normally my process is install ubu server because its easier to do manual lvm encryption that way, then install desktop, gfx driver and anything else needed. But all my nvidia tricks dont work anymore right now I am booted via iGFX, I have the pro
[23:36] <GZA-Genius> p nvidia drivers installed and it locks up right after grub tons of bad stuff in the syslog but was kinda hoping that its a known bug with a fix and I wouldnt have to sift threw syslog.
[23:37] <GZA-Genius> also 16.04.3 with hwe-edge but the problem is there on any kernel version of 2+
[23:38] <GZA-Genius> ....16.04.3 sorry
[23:39] <eein> how can I see what security patches are scheduled for release?
[23:40] <strive> eein: https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/
[23:40] <GZA-Genius> https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/
[23:41] <eein> yeah thanks I dound that earlier strive but how do I see before it is posted
[23:41] <eein> like what is releasing tomorrow? what is the window before commits
[23:41] <Bashing-om> GZA-Genius: what card, what driver ? ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' shows no conflicts ?
[23:42] <GZA-Genius> Bashing-om, 1080gtx tried all the nvidia-38* versions
[23:42] <GZA-Genius> from the prop driver ppa
[23:43] <GZA-Genius> 384.59 i tried initially
[23:43] <GZA-Genius> now i tryied 381.22
[23:44] <GZA-Genius> I have always used nvidia gfx cards so well versed in all the install workarounds but nothing I throw at this is working :)
[23:45] <GZA-Genius> I am open to any suggestion, because I am all out, besided booting via igfx and noone wants that :)
[23:46] <Bashing-om> GZA-Genius: Well, confirmed correct driver . /var/log/Xorg.0.log - /var/log/gpu-manager.log got any hints ?
[23:47] <GZA-Genius> F me i forgot about that one :)
[23:47] <GZA-Genius> let me switch gpu and boot a few times to try and populate the logs
[23:48] <GZA-Genius> bbiab
[23:48] <GZA-Genius> ty
[23:48] <Bashing-om> GZA-Genius: "If X ain't happy ....." :)
[23:50] <eein> I guess from the silence security updates are pushed asap
[23:51] <nacc> eein: you might ask in #ubuntu-security
[23:51] <nacc> eein: and no, there is a security-proposed pocket, iirc
[23:51] <eein> nacc ty
[23:52] <nacc> eein: yw