[00:49] <lotuspsychje> good night to all
[00:49] <lotuspsychje> mosquito hunted me cant sleep
[01:00] <Bashing-om> In each cloud that silver linning . WB lotuspsychje :)
[01:04] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[01:06] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Cafinatting to continue on ?
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> evening ptetteh227
[06:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:20] <nicomachus> well I finally found a firefox add-on that hides the huge titlebar and actually works.
[15:20] <daftykins> huge titlebar? where the tabs are?
[15:43] <nicomachus> daftykins: no, above the tabs.
[15:43] <nicomachus> Where it says "<site title> - Mozilla Firefox"
[15:44] <nicomachus> it was costing me valuable real estate.
[15:45] <daftykins> oh that's not a thing here
[15:46] <daftykins> just tabs at the top, (window controls on the right) followed by the address bar, then the page
[15:46] <daftykins> Windows version admittedly but i doubt they're different
[15:54] <nicomachus> daftykins: stock: http://i.imgur.com/f7Jqt2g.png
[15:54] <nicomachus> with add-on to remove titlebar: http://i.imgur.com/bXmZ3sz.png
[15:57] <ducasse> that's a wm thing, which is there depending on an x11 flag
[15:58] <ducasse> aiui, windows with the WM_DOCK flag does not get a titlebar, also true for certain other flags
[15:58] <nicomachus> yea, it is, you're right.
[16:01] <daftykins> ah i see
[16:01] <daftykins> mmm that's ugly
[16:06] <nicomachus> which one? lol
[16:06] <daftykins> with the bar :>
[16:09] <nicomachus> yea. with the system title bar/panel/whatever you wanna call it at the top, it really just was too much. So little space for actual webpage content.
[16:09] <nicomachus> Now I'm getting some odd tearing on scroll, though... weird.
[16:11] <daftykins> what's your screen res?
[16:15] <nicomachus> 1366x768
[16:16] <daftykins> ouch
[16:29] <nicomachus> yep. laptop. about 5-6 years old.
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:41] <daftykins> hi hi! how goes it in lotus land?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> great here on my side, what about you?
[18:42] <daftykins> yeah good thanks! off to London tomorrow for a wedding though
[18:42] <daftykins> not a big fan :P
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: found the right smoking?
[18:44] <daftykins> hmm?
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> suit :p
[18:45] <daftykins> oh yeesh, i'm wearing some old rubbish i wore a couple of weeks ago to another wedding ;)
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> dress?
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:45] <daftykins> shirt is new, but the shoes are the same since school :D no joke
[18:45] <daftykins> 16 years ago
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: we are trying to make a bullet journal for my gf
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> pretty intense
[18:49] <daftykins> what's one of those when it's at home? :)
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> its an empty book to be more productive
[18:50] <daftykins> O_O
[18:50] <daftykins> ye olde analog, with pen/pencil? :)
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> to create a kind of calendar analog with more structure
[18:52] <daftykins> do you mean in software? :D
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> no lol
[18:52] <daftykins> ooh
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> write with this kind of structure= index=year=month=week=day=brainstorm
[18:54] <daftykins> ah i don't have a to-do list, but it's top on my mental to-do list, to write one!
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah, but she has like thousands of notes n such
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> hey oerheks
[18:59] <oerheks> hi lotus
[19:00] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: ah like post-it notes scattered?
[19:00] <daftykins> oerheks: \o sir
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah combined stuff
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox xenial
[19:03] <daftykins> that feeling when your browser is larger than an OS
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:03] <immu> daftykins, lol
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[19:04] <oerheks> 16 mb code ..
[19:04] <oerheks> oh boy
[19:07] <oerheks> firefox                            158,760      installed
[19:07] <oerheks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25327458/
[19:07] <oerheks> google-chrome-stable               237,182
[19:08] <oerheks> oink
[19:12] <nicomachus> oerheks: you gotta a lotta kernels there.
[19:15] <oerheks> hmm, autoremove does not fix that...
[19:15] <oerheks> it did before
[19:16] <daftykins> just configs left maybe? i always purge instead of autoremove so it removes all traces of old ones
[19:16] <nicomachus> they are probably marked as manually installed.
[19:16] <daftykins> gives nice clean output from "dpkg -l | grep linux-" then too :D
[19:17] <oerheks> dpkg -l linux-{image,headers}-* | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | egrep '[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+' | grep -v $(uname -r | cut -d- -f-2) | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge # working ....
[19:19] <nicomachus> heh... looks like it may have done more than he intended.
[19:23] <oerheks> :-)
[19:23] <nicomachus> oerheks: remove a few too many? lol
[19:24] <oerheks> no, somehow i needed to reboot...
[19:24] <oerheks> now i see only .32 in the /boot folder
[19:38] <nicomachus> ah, you only kept 1? I too like to live dangerously.
[19:39] <oerheks> i am baffled...
[19:40] <oerheks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25327636/
[19:40] <oerheks> autoremove does not work, script does not fix..
[19:41] <oerheks> and synaptic does not show them
[19:42] <immu> good nite
[20:44] <nacc> oerheks: are they pinned/marked?
[21:12] <oerheks> nacc, not pinned, i never done that
[21:12] <oerheks> i just got back, and have time to look into it..
[21:16] <oerheks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25328087/
[21:17] <oerheks> i think i need to sudo apt remove --purge <kernel1> <kernel2> etc
[21:22] <oerheks> done, lets reboot
[21:23] <oerheks> well, booting works..
[21:23] <oerheks> oerheks@oerheks-workstation:~$ dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[21:23] <oerheks> ii  linux-image-4.10.0-32-generic                   4.10.0-32.36                                  amd64        Linux kernel image for version 4.10.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[21:23] <oerheks> ii  linux-image-extra-4.10.0-32-generic             4.10.0-32.36                                  amd64        Linux kernel extra modules for version 4.10.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[21:24] <oerheks> ii  linux-image-generic                             4.10.0.32.32                                  amd64        Generic Linux kernel image
[21:24] <oerheks> oerheks@oerheks-workstation:~$
[21:25] <oerheks> hmmmmm?
[21:25] <oerheks> http://i.imgur.com/wcTDHrH.png
[22:10] <nacc> oerheks: or 'marked' (as manually installed)
[22:10] <oerheks> nacc, nope, always upgraded properly.. that is what is odd about this
[22:10] <oerheks> but now i must live with 1 kernel only
[22:11] <nacc> oerheks: even stranger
[22:11] <Bashing-om> oerheks: risky busuness that ^ :(
[22:11] <oerheks> jups, fresh install 17.04.
[22:12] <nacc> oerheks: that seems like the underlying script didn't save two kernels
[22:13] <nacc> oerheks: although if you manually purge kernels, that script is irrelevant
[22:13] <oerheks> Now i removed the others manually, and upgraded grub
[22:18] <oerheks> dpkg log http://termbin.com/swhg
[22:18] <oerheks> not sure what to look for
[22:20] <oerheks> history.log http://termbin.com/w09o
[22:21] <Bashing-om> oerheks: So far so good . looking at history now .
[22:22] <oerheks> well, if someone encounters the same, i should file a bugreport
[22:26] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Just joining - what is the issue you are experiencing ? By the way, did the kernel headers get removed ?
[22:28] <oerheks> Bashing-om, i got a lot of old kernel parts, and autoremove did not do its job..
[22:28] <oerheks> lets see the log from here
[22:29] <oerheks> 19.12 and on .. https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/08/16/%23ubuntu-discuss.txt
[22:29] <oerheks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25327636/
[22:30] <oerheks> now i removed them manually, but i have 1 kernel in boot :-D
[22:34] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Clean up the cruft ' dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P " ( thanks to krycek for the simplification ! ). If I may say so . make sure the package manager is consistent and then install the -30 kernel .
[22:37] <oerheks> installin -30 now
[22:38] <oerheks> yay
[22:38] <oerheks> restart now .. i'll do
[22:45] <Bashing-om> oerheks: I do this a lot in support . I have just a bit of experience . What shows now ' ls -al /vmlinuz* /initrd.img* ' ?
[22:47] <oerheks> looks oke to me http://paste.ubuntu.com/25328678/
[22:48] <oerheks> uname -a
[22:48] <oerheks> Linux oerheks-workstation 4.10.0-32-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 8 12:10:06 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:50] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Nope "/initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-4.10.0-32-generic " where .old is point to the new jernel . What have we in /boot/ ' ls -al /boot/ ? and consider redoing the sym;inks to point to the correct kernels ?
[22:51] <oerheks> i am considering reinstalling totally..
[22:51] <oerheks> odd thing is that i botted the latest kernel..
[22:51] <oerheks> c/booted
[22:52] <Bashing-om> oerheks: A clean install == a clean mind :)
[22:53] <oerheks> i already have backed up my stuff, and still have the usb with 17.04. maybe i wait for the next kernel, see what happens
[22:53] <Bashing-om> oerheks: There is more that I do not know about grub than what I do know :)
[22:53] <oerheks> :-D
[22:53] <oerheks> linux is fun, so much to explore
[22:54] <oerheks> with windows i had to search online, here i just walk through synaptic and get lost for hours
[22:54] <oerheks> i just found out i had kodi installed too, never took the time to start it
[22:55]  * oerheks is ugly rich
[22:55] <Bashing-om> This had kept me entertained now for about 10 years now . And I do not see it slowing down at all in the future :)
[22:57] <daftykins> :>
[22:59] <pauljw> :)
[22:59] <daftykins> hello sir! how do?
[22:59] <Bashing-om> Hiya daf ! Still painting ? Goes well ?
[22:59] <pauljw> doing good, you?  been a while!
[23:00] <daftykins> hehe cor, i don't know who to answer first - here goes, off to London tomorrow for a wedding, exterior is pretty much all painted now but i'm awaiting a meeting to produce yet another report the insurance adjusters want
[23:01] <daftykins> just sat with a bottle of local cider and the Royals baseball game against the Oakland A's :)
[23:01] <pauljw> :)
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Hoz the Cardinals standing this year ? - not kept up but they be mu favorite .
[23:02] <daftykins> hmm not sure, i think they swept the Royals in a series not long ago
[23:03] <daftykins> http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp
[23:03] <daftykins> Cardinals, middle o' the pack
[23:03] <daftykins> but only a game in it!
[23:04] <daftykins> Houston Astros are doing seriously well though this year
[23:04] <daftykins> but apparently only 25% of teams who are first place actually end up winning the WS
[23:04] <daftykins> anything fun stopped us seeing you, pauljw? or have i just had my eyes closed?
[23:06] <pauljw> nah, not much, wife and i did go to the Mopar Nationals in Ohio this past weekend, that was fun.  but mostly just not hangin around here as much lately.
[23:07] <daftykins> we were all going to send out a search party!
[23:07] <daftykins> TJ even showed up!
[23:07] <pauljw> nothing personal, just not sitting at my puter all the time.... :)
[23:07] <pauljw> no way!!
[23:07] <pauljw> he doing okay?
[23:07] <daftykins> i know! he's been buried under house development work still, as predicted
[23:07] <pauljw> ah...
[23:07] <daftykins> he said he barely remembered how to fire up his IRC client :D
[23:08] <pauljw> heheh
[23:08] <daftykins> i'm sure winter will bring him back in for some sweet bug fixing
[23:08] <pauljw> most likely
[23:09] <daftykins> here we are, one more out and the Royals win by one run
[23:09] <daftykins> sweep complete i think :>
[23:09] <pauljw> heard the big news in ubuntu land?  they're adding a trashcan to the desktop.  you'd think the world was coming to an end by the reaction to something so trivial..
[23:09] <pauljw> nice
[23:10] <daftykins> hahaha no i've missed that one!
[23:10] <daftykins> is that on whatever new default desktop is being switched to?
[23:10] <nacc> daftykins: yeah, i think so
[23:11] <pauljw> i guess
[23:11] <pauljw> just made me laugh
[23:11] <daftykins> what are the tears over?
[23:11] <pauljw> having an icon on the desktop
[23:11] <daftykins> that's configurable? :D
[23:12] <pauljw> for some strange reason, i thought that's what the desktop was for...
[23:12] <daftykins> i wonder if some strange character will make a comparison to a real office
[23:12] <pauljw> i would think it's configurable, just going to default to having one.
[23:12] <daftykins> "it's on the floor in the corner, not on top beside my keyboard!"
[23:13] <pauljw> heheh