[07:06] morning boys and girls. [07:07] howdy all [07:09] morning MooDoo [07:13] how are you brobostigon ? [07:13] average really, and you? [07:13] not to bad really, thinking of a reason to learn docker lol [07:17] :) [07:21] morning all [07:21] Gotta admit to being very impressed with the latest version of solus [07:23] solus? [07:35] Morning all [07:36] MooDoo: https://solus-project.com/ [07:36] I run it on my Gem at work too SuperMatt [07:36] Sorry NUC* [07:48] is this another elemental? [07:48] elementary* [07:52] Nope, written from the ground up by a bloke called Ikey [07:52] Fast, up to date, changes alot underneath though [07:54] diplo: not based on another distro? see it has support for ubuntu snaps [07:54] Nope, well the base was clear linux project I think, ikey used to work for Intel till recently, but now gone full time on Solus [07:55] cool, looking at the site now [07:55] He wrote support in for snaps in a couple of days, the guy is a machine [07:57] * diplo will try installing diddledan's Corebird I guess, but I think it's already newest version in solus repos [07:58] diplo: downloading the iso now :) [08:00] It's nice, needed to wait till now as needed certain packages for work [08:05] Morning all [08:13] http://imgur.com/a/lkUrO woops [08:13] need to close a few tabs [08:14] jeesh foobarry [08:15] my tab use increased after bookmark functionality decreased [08:15] morning ! [08:19] diplo: it's certainly very pretty [08:27] It is and quick I find [08:27] Thunderbird can't attach from Samba shares created via nautilus it appears [08:28] What is the correct way of mounting samba shares via cli now ? cifs is all the tutorials are mentioning, just want to confirm it is still that as I thought it was gvfs or something now ? [08:28] diplo: I'm just running the live version from USB, but that's quick, took me a few mins to realise it's eopkg :) [08:28] diplo: i've always done it mount -t cifs etc etc [08:28] Yup, syntax has taken me a bit longer, alias apt to eopkg :P [08:28] ah ok, will install cifs-utils then ta [08:29] diplo: might replace my ubuntu partition with it, but we'll see live version is ok for today [08:32] diplo: even from usb, it really is fast isn't it [08:34] Yup [08:34] I've been using Ubuntu Budgie for quite a while, but wanted to move over [08:45] morning guys [08:45] how are you doing [08:46] morning knightwise, exhausted after taking my kids away for a 5 day break :D [08:47] So bug 378425 on Thunderbird, can't attach files from smb share - opened 11 years ago! [08:47] diplo: something for the weekend for you to look at? ;) [08:48] god no! I'll use the workaround for now thanks [08:48] I'll be sleeping all weekend [08:49] diplo: had a bit of a break too :) couple of days in the north of france :) [08:51] oooh lovely [08:53] I'm off at the end of the month, bank hol weekend, taking the kids to legoland for a couple of days. :) [08:56] Oh nice, my youngest really wants to go back [09:00] diplo: was going to drive down then go straight into the park, but just seen a travel lodge 20 mins from the park, might go down the day before now :D [09:03] oooh legoland [09:03] take me take me [09:04] knightwise: if you can fit in the kids rucksack and they won't notice, then deal :) lol [09:14] I was going to camp down there MooDoo, but decided against it, it's only a 1 1/2 for me, but was going to do 2 days [09:17] we're there wed/thursday but i think i might be tired driving down there early wed morning [09:18] You're in Nottingham still aren't you ? [09:18] diplo: yes just looking at google maps now [09:19] diplo: yeah 3 hours is [09:19] ish [09:26] That's fairly quick, takes me 4+ from Bath to Notts [09:27] Do you hardcode creds for a samba share in fstab ever? load from a text file etc ? [09:32] is ff55 faster or the same old disappointment? [09:33] down to 24 tabs! [09:33] I've seen a significant increase! [09:34] Running on Windows and Linux, running 64bit version on both [09:34] lies! [09:34] they never deliver [09:34] upgrading now brb [09:35] heh, they have this time [09:35] witchcraft! [09:35] sorcery! [09:35] will test with redmine, which it seems to be 5x slower than chrome [09:37] I've heard 57 is faster still [09:38] doesn't 57 use the new rendering engine? [09:38] awesome bar is broken :( [09:38] ah working now [09:40] it's quite fast using the i3 window manager too :) [09:41] Keep thinking about trying i3, watched a vid of it [09:41] Been years since I distro hopped, now on my third in a few months :D [09:41] diplo: I love it :) then again i'm a terminal junkie. [09:41] diplo: I'm using ubuntu, just installed i3 :) [09:44] May try it in a vm full screen one day [09:45] works fine here on neon [09:46] although I am only using it in home activity work is on chrome [09:46] I prefer chrome myself [09:54] I found it got heavier and heavier on my system, also had loads of caching issues [09:54] So moved to FF for a bit, haven't moved back yet :D [09:59] FF 57 is amazing. I've moved my personal profile over to it and I hope to track it back to stable. [10:04] where's 57? beta? [10:04] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/download-firefox-57-nightly [10:04] the quit button is a bit abrupt [10:05] no questions just POOF [10:10] redmine still more sluggish than chrome [10:52] ok, Rasberry PI setup :) running Calibre server and ssh endpoint. Thank god for the 128 gig microsd [12:50] http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?lkid=10853351 [12:50] :o [12:51] ubuntu/linux support forthcoming [12:55] the text on that page is so bad XD [12:56] dear God it's teeny weeny! [12:59] i fell for that trick with eee pc701 [12:59] i'm not buying more shiny [12:59] glad to hear :P looks like the kind of cheap tat that'll get abandoned quick [13:01] i have footage of a UFO taking off [13:01] http://imgur.com/a/18Lzy [13:01] :D [13:05] hahaha. I love that [13:19] still can't install Solus to existing logical volumes [13:20] where can you? non-LVM? [13:21] yup [13:22] I can install it, but it would mean a lot of faffing to back up my stuff [13:23] does it have to be bare metal? [13:24] Asked in #solus - ikey is quite active there as well as others in the channel [13:25] i saw some video review of the gpd thing a week or so ago where he tried kde [13:27] it mostly worked, but screen orientation was off [13:28] there's a revered gif version for the aliens landing... [13:28] I can't fathom why they have the Del key next to P on the GPD and backspace next to 0, odd layout [13:29] seems early versions were the other way around and they changed based on feedback [13:30] i do wonder if people who change the layout of keys are touch typists... [13:30] with tiny hands [13:30] Hi folks, I'm looking at /proc//fd and it has a lot of files which link to sockets, is there any way to find out more info about what those sockets are? [13:30] eg "socket:[36745917]" isn't a particularly useful piece of info [13:32] Azelphur: what type of application? [13:32] popey: stuff I wrote, aiohttp handling websocket connections. [13:34] won't they match open connections, like what you see in netstat? [13:35] popey: they don't, no [13:36] lsof any use in that scenario? [13:37] daftykins: actually much, dunno why I didn't think of that [13:39] and now I know that my app is leaking connections to redis, woo. I'm a good programmer \o/ [13:41] yay i knew a thing! [13:54] * zmoylan-pi gives daftykins a peanut... [13:55] * daftykins looks at it... [13:55] err, where's that been? [13:55] that was amusing, i just called up the travelinn i'm staying at outside of Stansted airport tomorrow evening, guy didn't really know how to get to them from the airport without blowing £20 on a taxi, oof [13:58] people still ask for directions?! [14:00] i'm an island bumpkin in a strange and foreign land :( [14:00] tbh my research did already point out a better answer than he offered, just no price [14:00] (local buses) [14:00] take out your string and tie off at starting point and trail it out behind you as you go... :-P [14:06] excellent, but what's this i hear of horseless carriages? [14:07] putting hardworking horses out of work... and people with shovels.. [14:08] on Sark they have bins mounted on the wall sides you're meant to clean up after your own horse, with [14:08] some places now require horses to wear diapers [14:11] just need tescos to step up and provide changing tables... :-P [14:12] :D [14:32] popey: http://daniel-lnx.blogspot.co.uk/ fixed the rotation issue [14:32] nice [14:32] i think flexiondotorg has one of those GPD things on the way [14:32] maybe [14:33] tbh even a full size laptop is an annoyance for me [14:33] keyboard and desktop PC ftw [14:33] and moar monitors [14:34] +1 to that [14:34] and a big desk with all my gonks on [14:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FtcW9u0GDE [15:22] hmm gonk was new on me! [15:41] what's that, skip, you wanna play with me didgerydoo?! [15:57] lol, got one of those SMS's pretending to be my bank asking me to fill in my account details, looked at the domain and it was owned by a self-employed PC repair guy, so I phoned him and let him know [15:57] * Azelphur is useful [15:59] "You do know you're scamming people, right?" [16:00] haha, was obviously a malicious user got control of his server [16:02] and he just emailed me and let me know that he took it down, that probably saved a few peoples bank accounts [16:02] good deed for the day \o/ [16:02] "oh, good catch, I'll *definitely* stop scamming people" [16:02] haha [16:08] You should listen to the ReplyAll podcast, the guy gets friendly with one of those Windows scammers, and even goes to visit them in India. It's quite fun [16:08] https://gimletmedia.com/reply-all/ - episode 102 and 103 [16:09] that sounds fun [17:27] Idea of the day: Friend is making me a SATA cable that takes the 5v line and puts it out into a female USB port, gonna buy a crappy GPS tracker off aliexpress for £5.60, and put it inside an unused drive bay in my laptop [20:03] Azelphur: three has a payg sim that gives you 200MB free per month if you top up £2 every six months [20:03] but you will need to get a tracker with 3G or they will kick you off because they don't support 2G [20:03] ali1234: nice [20:04] also i odnt recommend using the drive bay that's the first place anyone wold look... [20:10] although if you can fit it all inside a case from a broken ssd that could work [20:27] aren't there software options for loading into firmware that will phone home if laptop is connected to internet? [20:28] yeah, computrace [21:00] i wonder how good the bt trackers are you see advertised around [21:27] this lookee funky: https://www.frontrow.com/ [21:30] so another 'life trcaker'... [21:30] seems so [21:31] i'd love one that was small enough for a cat to wear with a wireless charging mat that i could slip into cats box that autouploaded pics to cloud [21:43] you could check what your murderfloof was up to when you weren't around [22:09] is google down? [22:09] panic \o/ ::goes to check:: [22:10] I'm searching "you're awesome" and it's not returning [22:10] came up for me [22:10] haven't fired up google page in months... worked ok [22:11] vivaldi on linux mint [22:11] I wonder what voodoo is ocurring then [22:11] have you sacrificed chickens to the gods of wifi? [22:11] neither chrome nor firefox are loading it [22:11] and on your mobile device? [22:12] ok chrome finally loaded something [22:14] but you didn't type google into google? #justchecking [22:14] damn. that'ld do it [22:14] oops [23:07] google is working fine now [23:07] I wonder what I did to break it [23:08] must be the stuff you type into it, making it blush [23:08] my wealthy client has discovered Three's partner in France has issues today, no network association this lunch! [23:08] er since lunch, i meant [23:19] did you cast wiggle network cable? :-P [23:19] maybe ;D [23:19] still got him with an O2 service in his laptop for mobile data, so he's not entirely in holiday mode due to the service outage... [23:20] when i first got an iphone many moons ago the service was taken out for most of a day by rain... rain in ireland, who knew... :-) [23:21] cor! [23:21] did that become a regular thing when it rained? [23:22] http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1001/306829-dublin_weather/ [23:23] my my [23:23] nah, they had moved a bunch of servers into a basement i found out later, without checking for flood protection [23:23] :S [23:26] i should've asked you to translate for me when i had an Irish lass from EE during a call the other day [23:26] i swear i get the first 60% of sentences then they seem to allow all the words to hold hands by the end of the sentence [23:27] "Yes calling Guernsey from England will be 50p perminuteahoohaharemeraldisle" [23:28] one of my favourite films is i went down which provides a great example of inserting swear words into the middle of words when the sentence isn't long enough :-) [23:31] wow, 20 years old now... :-) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126344/ [23:32] my my [23:32] what kind of a name is Git! [23:32] give it a watch, you will laugh out loud [23:33] in ireland a nickname can be more important than any other name [23:33] that's fair :> [23:33] now relaxing to some Cranberries [23:34] never did get to see them live, they cancelled [23:34] but it's a safe bet, anything with brendan gleason in it is pretty good [23:35] the guard, the general, in bruge [23:37] looks familiar, let's see [23:37] you will have seen in bruge [23:38] maybe not the other 2 [23:38] hmm nah not heard of any [23:42] popped in the ol' unsorted bookmarks folder for a chaos storage rediscovery, anywho :D