[07:06] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:07] <MooDoo> howdy all
[07:09] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[07:13] <MooDoo> how are you brobostigon ?
[07:13] <brobostigon> average really, and you?
[07:13] <MooDoo> not to bad really, thinking of a reason to learn docker lol
[07:17] <brobostigon> :)
[07:21] <SuperMatt> morning all
[07:21] <SuperMatt> Gotta admit to being very impressed with the latest version of solus
[07:23] <MooDoo> solus?
[07:35] <diplo> Morning all
[07:36] <diplo> MooDoo: https://solus-project.com/
[07:36] <diplo> I run it on my Gem at work too SuperMatt
[07:36] <diplo> Sorry NUC*
[07:48] <MooDoo> is this another elemental?
[07:48] <MooDoo> elementary*
[07:52] <diplo> Nope, written from the ground up by a bloke called Ikey
[07:52] <diplo> Fast, up to date, changes alot underneath though
[07:54] <MooDoo> diplo: not based on another distro?  see it has support for ubuntu snaps
[07:54] <diplo> Nope, well the base was clear linux project I think, ikey used to work for Intel till recently, but now gone full time on Solus
[07:55] <MooDoo> cool, looking at the site now
[07:55] <diplo> He wrote support in for snaps in a couple of days, the guy is a machine
[07:57]  * diplo will try installing diddledan's Corebird I guess, but I think it's already newest version in solus repos
[07:58] <MooDoo> diplo: downloading the iso now :)
[08:00] <diplo> It's nice, needed to wait till now as needed certain packages for work
[08:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:13] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/lkUrO woops
[08:13] <foobarry> need to close a few tabs
[08:14] <diplo> jeesh foobarry
[08:15] <foobarry> my tab use increased after bookmark functionality decreased
[08:15] <knightwise> morning !
[08:19] <MooDoo> diplo: it's certainly very pretty
[08:27] <diplo> It is and quick I find
[08:27] <diplo> Thunderbird can't attach from Samba shares created via nautilus it appears
[08:28] <diplo> What is the correct way of mounting samba shares via cli now ? cifs is all the tutorials are mentioning, just want to confirm it is still that as I thought it was gvfs or something now ?
[08:28] <MooDoo> diplo: I'm just running the live version from USB, but that's quick, took me a few mins to realise it's eopkg :)
[08:28] <MooDoo> diplo: i've always done it mount -t cifs etc etc
[08:28] <diplo> Yup, syntax has taken me a bit longer, alias apt to eopkg :P
[08:28] <diplo> ah ok, will install cifs-utils then ta
[08:29] <MooDoo> diplo: might replace my ubuntu partition with it, but we'll see live version is ok for today
[08:32] <MooDoo> diplo: even from usb, it really is fast isn't it
[08:34] <diplo> Yup
[08:34] <diplo> I've been using Ubuntu Budgie for quite a while, but wanted to move over
[08:45] <knightwise> morning guys
[08:45] <knightwise> how are you doing
[08:46] <diplo> morning knightwise, exhausted after taking my kids away for a 5 day break :D
[08:47] <diplo> So bug 378425 on Thunderbird, can't attach files from smb share - opened 11 years ago!
[08:47] <MooDoo> diplo: something for the weekend for you to look at? ;)
[08:48] <diplo> god no! I'll use the workaround for now thanks
[08:48] <diplo> I'll be sleeping all weekend
[08:49] <knightwise> diplo: had a bit of a break too :) couple of days in the north of france :)
[08:51] <diplo> oooh lovely
[08:53] <MooDoo> I'm off at the end of the month, bank hol weekend, taking the kids to legoland for a couple of days. :)
[08:56] <diplo> Oh nice, my youngest really wants to go back
[09:00] <MooDoo> diplo: was going to drive down then go straight into the park, but just seen a travel lodge 20 mins from the park, might go down the day before now :D
[09:03] <knightwise> oooh legoland
[09:03] <knightwise> take me take me
[09:04] <MooDoo> knightwise: if you can fit in the kids rucksack and they won't notice, then deal :) lol
[09:14] <diplo> I was going to camp down there MooDoo, but decided against it, it's only a 1 1/2 for me, but was going to do 2 days
[09:17] <MooDoo> we're there wed/thursday but i think i might be tired driving down there early wed morning
[09:18] <diplo> You're in Nottingham still aren't you ?
[09:18] <MooDoo> diplo: yes just looking at google maps now
[09:19] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah 3 hours is
[09:19] <MooDoo> ish
[09:26] <diplo> That's fairly quick, takes me 4+ from Bath to Notts
[09:27] <diplo> Do you hardcode creds for a samba share in fstab ever? load from a text file etc ?
[09:32] <foobarry> is ff55 faster or the same old disappointment?
[09:33] <foobarry> down to 24 tabs!
[09:33] <diplo> I've seen a significant increase!
[09:34] <diplo> Running on Windows and Linux, running 64bit version on both
[09:34] <foobarry> lies!
[09:34] <foobarry> they never deliver
[09:34] <foobarry> upgrading now brb
[09:35] <diplo> heh, they have this time
[09:35] <foobarry> witchcraft!
[09:35] <foobarry> sorcery!
[09:35] <foobarry> will test with redmine, which it seems to be 5x slower than chrome
[09:37] <diplo> I've heard 57 is faster still
[09:38] <MooDoo> doesn't 57 use the new rendering engine?
[09:38] <foobarry> awesome bar is broken :(
[09:38] <foobarry> ah working now
[09:40] <MooDoo> it's quite fast using the i3 window manager too :)
[09:41] <diplo> Keep thinking about trying i3, watched a vid of it
[09:41] <diplo> Been years since I distro hopped, now on my third in a few months :D
[09:41] <MooDoo> diplo: I love it :) then again i'm a terminal junkie.
[09:41] <MooDoo> diplo: I'm using ubuntu, just installed i3 :)
[09:44] <diplo> May try it in a vm full screen one day
[09:45] <davmor2> works fine here on neon
[09:46] <davmor2> although I am only using it in home activity work is on chrome
[09:46] <MooDoo> I prefer chrome myself
[09:54] <diplo> I found it got heavier and heavier on my system, also had loads of caching issues
[09:54] <diplo> So moved to FF for a bit, haven't moved back yet :D
[09:59] <SuperMatt> FF 57 is amazing. I've moved my personal profile over to it and I hope to track it back to stable.
[10:04] <foobarry> where's 57? beta?
[10:04] <MooDoo> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/download-firefox-57-nightly
[10:04] <foobarry> the quit button is a bit abrupt
[10:05] <foobarry> no questions just POOF
[10:10] <foobarry> redmine still more sluggish than chrome
[10:52] <knightwise> ok, Rasberry PI setup :) running Calibre server and ssh endpoint. Thank god for the 128 gig microsd
[12:50] <foobarry> http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?lkid=10853351
[12:50] <foobarry> :o
[12:51] <foobarry> ubuntu/linux support forthcoming
[12:55] <daftykins> the text on that page is so bad XD
[12:56] <diddledan> dear God it's teeny weeny!
[12:59] <foobarry> i fell for that trick with eee pc701
[12:59] <foobarry> i'm not buying more shiny
[12:59] <daftykins> glad to hear :P looks like the kind of cheap tat that'll get abandoned quick
[13:01] <foobarry> i have footage of a UFO taking off
[13:01] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/18Lzy
[13:01] <daftykins> :D
[13:05] <diddledan> hahaha. I love that
[13:19] <SuperMatt> still can't install Solus to existing logical volumes
[13:20] <daftykins> where can you? non-LVM?
[13:21] <SuperMatt> yup
[13:22] <SuperMatt> I can install it, but it would mean a lot of faffing to back up my stuff
[13:23] <daftykins> does it have to be bare metal?
[13:24] <diplo> Asked in #solus - ikey is quite active there as well as others in the channel
[13:25] <popey> i saw some video review of the gpd thing a week or so ago where he tried kde
[13:27] <popey> it mostly worked, but screen orientation was off
[13:28] <zmoylan-pi> there's a revered gif version for the aliens landing...
[13:28] <popey> I can't fathom why they have the Del key next to P on the GPD and backspace next to 0, odd layout
[13:29] <popey> seems early versions were the other way around and they changed based on feedback
[13:30] <zmoylan-pi> i do wonder if people who change the layout of keys are touch typists...
[13:30] <popey> with tiny hands
[13:30] <Azelphur> Hi folks, I'm looking at /proc/<pid>/fd and it has a lot of files which link to sockets, is there any way to find out more info about what those sockets are?
[13:30] <Azelphur> eg "socket:[36745917]" isn't a particularly useful piece of info
[13:32] <popey> Azelphur: what type of application?
[13:32] <Azelphur> popey: stuff I wrote, aiohttp handling websocket connections.
[13:34] <popey> won't they match open connections, like what you see in netstat?
[13:35] <Azelphur> popey: they don't, no
[13:36] <daftykins> lsof any use in that scenario?
[13:37] <Azelphur> daftykins: actually much, dunno why I didn't think of that
[13:39] <Azelphur> and now I know that my app is leaking connections to redis, woo. I'm a good programmer \o/
[13:41] <daftykins> yay i knew a thing!
[13:54]  * zmoylan-pi gives daftykins a peanut...
[13:55]  * daftykins looks at it...
[13:55] <daftykins> err, where's that been?
[13:55] <daftykins> that was amusing, i just called up the travelinn i'm staying at outside of Stansted airport tomorrow evening, guy didn't really know how to get to them from the airport without blowing £20 on a taxi, oof
[13:58] <zmoylan-pi> people still ask for directions?!
[14:00] <daftykins> i'm an island bumpkin in a strange and foreign land :(
[14:00] <daftykins> tbh my research did already point out a better answer than he offered, just no price
[14:00] <daftykins> (local buses)
[14:00] <zmoylan-pi> take out your string and tie off at starting point and trail it out behind you as you go... :-P
[14:06] <daftykins> excellent, but what's this i hear of horseless carriages?
[14:07] <zmoylan-pi> putting hardworking horses out of work... and people with shovels..
[14:08] <daftykins> on Sark they have bins mounted on the wall sides you're meant to clean up after your own horse, with
[14:08] <zmoylan-pi> some places now require horses to wear diapers
[14:11] <zmoylan-pi> just need tescos to step up and provide changing tables... :-P
[14:12] <daftykins> :D
[14:32] <foobarry> popey: http://daniel-lnx.blogspot.co.uk/ fixed the rotation issue
[14:32] <popey> nice
[14:32] <popey> i think flexiondotorg has one of those GPD things on the way
[14:32] <popey> maybe
[14:33] <foobarry> tbh even a full size laptop is an annoyance for me
[14:33] <foobarry> keyboard and desktop PC ftw
[14:33] <foobarry> and moar monitors
[14:34] <daftykins> +1 to that
[14:34] <foobarry> and a big desk with all my gonks on
[14:35] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FtcW9u0GDE
[15:22] <daftykins> hmm gonk was new on me!
[15:41] <diddledan> what's that, skip, you wanna play with me didgerydoo?!
[15:57] <Azelphur> lol, got one of those SMS's pretending to be my bank asking me to fill in my account details, looked at the domain and it was owned by a self-employed PC repair guy, so I phoned him and let him know
[15:57]  * Azelphur is useful
[15:59] <Seeker`> "You do know you're scamming people, right?"
[16:00] <Azelphur> haha, was obviously a malicious user got control of his server
[16:02] <Azelphur> and he just emailed me and let me know that he took it down, that probably saved a few peoples bank accounts
[16:02] <Azelphur> good deed for the day \o/
[16:02] <Seeker`> "oh, good catch, I'll *definitely* stop scamming people"
[16:02] <Azelphur> haha
[16:08] <popey> You should listen to the ReplyAll podcast, the guy gets friendly with one of those Windows scammers, and even goes to visit them in India. It's quite fun
[16:08] <popey> https://gimletmedia.com/reply-all/ - episode 102 and 103
[16:09] <Azelphur> that sounds fun
[17:27] <Azelphur> Idea of the day: Friend is making me a SATA cable that takes the 5v line and puts it out into a female USB port, gonna buy a crappy GPS tracker off aliexpress for £5.60, and put it inside an unused drive bay in my laptop
[20:03] <ali1234> Azelphur: three has a payg sim that gives you 200MB free per month if you top up £2 every six months
[20:03] <ali1234> but you will need to get a tracker with 3G or they will kick you off because they don't support 2G
[20:03] <Azelphur> ali1234: nice
[20:04] <ali1234> also i odnt recommend using the drive bay that's the first place anyone wold look...
[20:10] <ali1234> although if you can fit it all inside a case from a broken ssd that could work
[20:27] <zmoylan-pi> aren't there software options for loading into firmware that will phone home if laptop is connected to internet?
[20:28] <ali1234> yeah, computrace
[21:00] <zmoylan-pi> i wonder how good the bt trackers are you see advertised around
[21:27] <diddledan> this lookee funky: https://www.frontrow.com/
[21:30] <zmoylan-pi> so another 'life trcaker'...
[21:30] <diddledan> seems so
[21:31] <zmoylan-pi> i'd love one that was small enough for a cat to wear with a wireless charging mat that i could slip into cats box that autouploaded pics to cloud
[21:43] <zmoylan-pi> you could check what your murderfloof was up to when you weren't around
[22:09] <diddledan> is google down?
[22:09] <zmoylan-pi> panic \o/ ::goes to check::
[22:10] <diddledan> I'm searching "you're awesome" and it's not returning
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> came up for me
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> haven't fired up google page in months... worked ok
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> vivaldi on linux mint
[22:11] <diddledan> I wonder what voodoo is ocurring then
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> have you sacrificed chickens to the gods of wifi?
[22:11] <diddledan> neither chrome nor firefox are loading it
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> and on your mobile device?
[22:12] <diddledan> ok chrome finally loaded something
[22:14] <zmoylan-pi> but you didn't type google into google? #justchecking
[22:14] <diddledan> damn. that'ld do it
[22:14] <diddledan> oops
[23:07] <diddledan> google is working fine now
[23:07] <diddledan> I wonder what I did to break it
[23:08] <daftykins> must be the stuff you type into it, making it blush
[23:08] <daftykins> my wealthy client has discovered Three's partner in France has issues today, no network association this lunch!
[23:08] <daftykins> er since lunch, i meant
[23:19] <zmoylan-pi> did you cast wiggle network cable? :-P
[23:19] <daftykins> maybe ;D
[23:19] <daftykins> still got him with an O2 service in his laptop for mobile data, so he's not entirely in holiday mode due to the service outage...
[23:20] <zmoylan-pi> when i first got an iphone many moons ago the service was taken out for most of a day by rain... rain in ireland, who knew... :-)
[23:21] <daftykins> cor!
[23:21] <daftykins> did that become a regular thing when it rained?
[23:22] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1001/306829-dublin_weather/
[23:23] <daftykins> my my
[23:23] <zmoylan-pi> nah, they had moved a bunch of servers into a basement i found out later, without checking for flood protection
[23:23] <daftykins> :S
[23:26] <daftykins> i should've asked you to translate for me when i had an Irish lass from EE during a call the other day
[23:26] <daftykins> i swear i get the first 60% of sentences then they seem to allow all the words to hold hands by the end of the sentence
[23:27] <daftykins> "Yes calling Guernsey from England will be 50p perminuteahoohaharemeraldisle"
[23:28] <zmoylan-pi> one of my favourite films is i went down which provides a great example of inserting swear words into the middle of words when the sentence isn't long enough :-)
[23:31] <zmoylan-pi> wow, 20 years old now... :-) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126344/
[23:32] <daftykins> my my
[23:32] <daftykins> what kind of a name is Git!
[23:32] <zmoylan-pi> give it a watch, you will laugh out loud
[23:33] <zmoylan-pi> in ireland a nickname can be more important than any other name
[23:33] <daftykins> that's fair :>
[23:33] <daftykins> now relaxing to some Cranberries
[23:34] <daftykins> never did get to see them live, they cancelled
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> but it's a safe bet, anything with brendan gleason in it is pretty good
[23:35] <zmoylan-pi> the guard, the general, in bruge
[23:37] <daftykins> looks familiar, let's see
[23:37] <zmoylan-pi> you will have seen in bruge
[23:38] <zmoylan-pi> maybe not the other 2
[23:38] <daftykins> hmm nah not heard of any
[23:42] <daftykins> popped in the ol' unsorted bookmarks folder for a chaos storage rediscovery, anywho :D