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GriffusSilverlmao00:29
GriffusSilverAnyone here has experience with linux kernel drivers00:32
GriffusSilverCome on dont be Chad and Stacy on #ubuntu00:33
infotekapt update; apt upgrade ; apt autoremove;  on supermicro made my keyboard and network stop working.00:36
infoteki had to boot off an older ubuntu 16.04.1 iso into a rescu environment and install a different kernel 4.12.0 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.12/00:37
GriffusSilvercan anyone help me00:37
infotekvery strange.00:37
infotekGriffusSilver: what do you have?00:37
GriffusSilverwhy do i keep getting deauth'd on my wifi network00:39
GriffusSilverjust look at my dmesg for example00:39
GriffusSilverwlan0: deauthenticated from ac:0d:1b:d8:f5:e3 (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)00:39
GriffusSilver[ 9004.394210] wlan0: authenticate with ac:0d:1b:d8:f5:e300:39
GriffusSilver[ 9004.394669] wlan0: send auth to ac:0d:1b:d8:f5:e3 (try 1/3)00:39
GriffusSilver[ 9004.398171] wlan0: authenticated00:39
GriffusSilver[ 9004.407628] wlan0: associate with ac:0d:1b:d8:f5:e3 (try 1/3)00:39
GriffusSilver[ 9004.421910] wlan0: RX AssocResp from ac:0d:1b:d8:f5:e3 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=4)00:39
MBSugh maybe i should have gone with 17.04 instead of 16.04, having issues that may or may not be ryzen related, but with mainline kernel have no clue how to get zfs module working01:04
w9qbjSeems I need to fsck /home - but it is mounted. How do I login as root so I can umount /home01:09
rahulprodevHi01:11
rahulprodevplease help me regarding...01:11
rahulprodevwhenever I boot this is coming [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^ [5^01:12
w9qbjrahulprodev: starting with the simple trouble shooting Qs first - do you have a disk/USB plugged, one you forgot to take out the last time the system worked?01:14
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rahulprodevw9qbj, thanks for reply.. actually i reinstalled ubuntu many times still this comes up everytime01:16
w9qbjSeems I need to fsck /home - but it is mounted. How do I login as root so I can umount /home - or how to I force a fsck at boot  Ubuntu 16-0401:17
rypervenchew9qbj: You will need to unlock the root user to be able to do that.01:23
rypervencheOr you can force a fsck /home on a reboot and then reboot.01:23
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lotuspsychje!zfs | MBS01:42
ubottuMBS: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS01:42
MBSwell im currently compiling 4.12 w/ ZFS and will see if it works and stops hangs01:46
lotuspsychjerahulprodev: wich ubuntu iso?01:49
rahulprodevlotuspsychje, 16.0401:51
lotuspsychjerahulprodev: how did you create usb?01:52
rahulprodevlotuspsychje, usb create by universal usb installer01:55
rahulprodevi tried many times but this error is coming again and again.01:56
lotuspsychjerahulprodev: explain what happens exactly plz: uefi settings? usb plug in, load ubuntu? when do you get errors?01:57
rahulprodevI don't have that much idea about ubuntu... that much about about after booting first screen flashes then this error comes.02:01
rahulprodevis it possible it will be hardware problem... because now my windows is also not installing02:02
Jordan_Urahulprodev: Are you getting this message when you're booting Ubuntu's installer, or when booting Ubuntu after having installed it?02:02
rahulprodevafter installed02:02
Jordan_Urahulprodev: Do you ever see the grub menu at boot?02:04
rahulprodevgrub menu you mean red screen where ubuntu options comes?02:04
rahulprodevyes... after that screen flashes and this error show up02:05
Jordan_Urahulprodev: The purple screen with "Ubuntu" and "Advanced options for Ubuntu", yes. Have you tried selecting "Advanced options for Ubuntu" then the "Recovery" option?02:06
rahulprodevJordan_U, I didn't tried, actually i reinstalled many times...02:09
willdeberryrecommended place for snap assistance?02:10
bazhang#snappy02:11
willdeberryawesome, ty02:11
bazhangwelcome02:12
energizerOn ubuntu server, nmcli says i'm "connected" to a wifi network, but i can't ping the router "destination host unreachable"02:13
w9qbjrypervenche: for some this might be a dumb Q, but how do I force a FSCK on reboot?02:18
willdeberryenergizer: does 'ip a' show your interface to have an ip address?02:19
rypervenchew9qbj: What OS and version?02:20
w9qbjubuntu 16.0402:20
energizerwilldeberry: yes02:20
w9qbjrypervenche: I have Uuntu 16.0402:22
willdeberryenergizer: if you have net-tools installed, you should have the route command. does it show your router as the default route?02:26
willdeberryrypervenche: i believe putting fsck.mode=force as a kernel command line option should do the trick: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html02:35
BUSYhey guys!  just built a new PC and i'm now up and running.  i am booting from a smaller SSD and also have another internal HDD.  does it make sense to mount that with/inside of my home directory, or leave it in /media or /mnt?  what is the natural convention for additional non-removable disks02:35
lotuspsychje!home | BUSY02:39
ubottuBUSY: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving02:39
BUSYis that what i ought to do? i was wondering if the disks could sort of have nesting mount points02:40
lotuspsychjeBUSY: how big is your ssd?02:41
BUSY500GB02:41
lotuspsychjeBUSY: and your internal HD?02:42
rypervenchewilldeberry: Yeah, thanks. I got a phone call.02:42
willdeberryrgr02:42
BUSY4TB, i suppose smaller is a relative term, and i am doing more than booting.  currently my home directory can fit fine on the SSD, but i just was not sure how i ought to introduce the other drive when i am interested in using it, if not from its default /media/ mount point02:43
lotuspsychjeBUSY: booting your ssd with ubuntu would be a good idea02:45
lotuspsychjeBUSY: what i would do is: install ubuntu install and /home on the ssd and keep the 4TB as data/backup drive internal02:45
BUSYthat is the configuration i have now, i am just not sure where to mount the 4TB that would make logical ubuntu sense in the directory hierarchy02:46
BUSYdoes it make any sense to have it inside of ~?02:47
energizerwilldeberry: route gives an empty table02:47
energizeroh no i guess it was just loading it says gateway 192.168.0.102:48
BUSYor maybe i just mount it in /media and link it in home?  i suppose i can do whatever i want, but i was just seeing what people naturally did with more than one drive02:49
willdeberryenergizer: and that's the same address you can't ping right?02:50
energizerwilldeberry: right02:50
[n0mad]BUSY: i just leave mine mounted in media02:51
energizerwilldeberry:  pinging it says "From .111", which is the eth0 ip, not the wlan ip. eth0 isnt plugged in02:51
BUSY[n0mad], /media/disk_name?  by default, it looks like it goes to /media/username/uuid/02:52
[n0mad]yes, /media/user/disk02:52
[n0mad]i think really it's up to you, but i figured where ubuntu put them is good enough for me02:53
BUSYsounds reasonable enough02:53
MBSok cool, got 4.12.7 with ZFS running now, hopefully no more crashes :(02:54
coresi'm trying to statically build an x11 application but i'm getting link errors02:54
coreshttps://bpaste.net/show/bdc96e51274a02:55
Stanley00cores: I think you forgot -lXt02:56
coresat first i didn't think my X libraries that i installed were built for static linking, but the symbols the linker is looking for are in the file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXt.a02:56
coresStanley00, huh i didn't try that02:56
coresStanley00: doesn't apper to work02:57
energizerwilldeberry: anyway, what do i do now?02:58
coresi got a bunch of link errors02:58
Stanley00cores: you still get the *same* error messages after adding -lXt?02:59
cores$ gcc -static -o push push.c -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -lXt 2>&1 | grep "undefined reference" | wc -l03:00
cores50003:00
coresdifferent list of undefined references03:01
Stanley00cores: then you will need many more -l switch, -lXt is just simply not enough03:01
coreshmm, no undefined refs that start with -Xt any more though03:02
Stanley00cores: yes, -lXt just provide some *refs*, you will have to find which library provide other *refs* you need and add -l option for that lib03:03
energizerwilldeberry: looking in tshark i see "38 120.70... ba:27:eb:2d:9e:53 -> Raspberr_2d:9e:53 .... Ethernet"03:05
willdeberrydoes the ip command show eth as down or just no ip?03:07
coresStanley00: i'm down to 2 undefined references03:17
coresform a max of about 230003:17
Stanley00cores: wow, congrat :303:17
willdeberryenergizer: and i only assume this worked at some point?03:19
coresback up to 161 :(03:20
willdeberryanyways energizer, i am just shooting in the dark here honestly...this is one of those issues that is hard to narrow down unless it is just a driver issue03:23
coresis there a way for the linker to automatically find and resolve all these references?03:25
coresi finally ran into a library that doesn't have the symbols i need03:27
coresgive up time03:27
energizerwilldeberry: ok here we go. `ifconfig eth0 down` then it suddenly works03:31
energizerwilldeberry: /etc/cnetwork/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg has auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp;03:34
pvl1im compiling curl by hand. long story. its linking against older openssl, probably because its finding that lib before the 1 i compiled and installed via checkinstall03:37
pvl1so, is that something i can likely inform via configure flags or do i dig in the makefile?03:38
pvl1or, is there something i need to do to inform ld of this03:39
coresapparently the order of -l options passed to gcc matters a lot03:41
pvl1well i just ran ldconfig, idk if it was run during checkinstall. ima try that and then look in the makefile then03:43
coresi never gave up :(03:49
nick---hi03:49
coresits midnight and i'm down to 4 undefined references03:49
coresall of which are defined in libX11.a03:49
coresbut the linker still isn't liking something03:49
nick---in ubuntu 17 how do I uninstall python2.7 and install python3.6?03:49
pvl1nick---: why would you uninstall any python03:50
nick---because i need python 3.603:50
pvl1i think apt-get install python303:51
pvl1but also maybe look into a version manager03:51
pvl1idont know of any03:51
pvl1but i cannot recommend the solution to be uninstalling python2.703:51
pvl1oh wait its linking against not the right libcurl. weird, curl itself builds libcurl03:55
pvl1or no. this is all sorts of wrong03:56
coresStanley00: finally got it to work03:59
coresStanley00: i had to put the -lXft BEFORE the -lX1104:00
coresi can finally go to sleep04:00
Stanley00cores: yeah, I don't know why but sometime you have to messing around with the order of linked libs. g904:01
coresmy statically built app wont run on another machine lol04:02
coresXIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":1.0"04:03
cores      after 101 requests (101 known processed) with 0 events remaining.04:03
coresSegmentation fault04:03
coresit runs on the machine i built it on, ubuntu 16.0404:04
coresoops i mean 17.0404:04
coresbut wont run on ubuntu 14.0404:04
pvl1well what resource could that be04:07
coresi have no idea04:08
coresit runs on ubuntu 16.0404:09
coresruns on 16.04, 17.04 but not 14.0404:09
coresah well, looks like that's as good as i'm going to get for now04:09
coresi wonder if it will work if i do it the other way around: build on 14.04 and try running on 16.04 or 17.0404:11
chalcedonyhubby's ubuntu 16.04 box is crashing at odd times. I thought it was his weather app, dialing in and failing, so he removed that. But i was just now going to look something up on ff and it just .. crashed! it restarts ok, but he has been experiencing this a lot lately. Help?05:01
ddellavchalcedony it could be a lot of things. I would check to make sure the system isn't running out of ram and hard drive space first05:14
chalcedonyok05:14
chalcedonyddellav, are there commands for that?05:15
ddellavchalcedony yes, free -m for memory and df -h for hard drive space05:15
chalcedonyty very much ddellav :)05:15
ddellavyw05:15
chalcedonylet's see05:15
reanshello05:17
reansanybody alive05:17
chalcedonyhttps://pastebin.com/TJ1gz3mf  ddellav05:18
ddellavreans ask your question if you need help05:19
ddellavchalcedony ok, looks like everything is fine there05:20
chalcedonyddellav, it dosen't look like ram is the culprit05:20
ddellavnext, check dmesg for errors05:20
ddellavjust type dmesg and hit enter05:20
infotekhelp help!05:20
chalcedonyhis directory is full, he can't run updates (he is fixing that i think)05:21
chalcedonyinfotek, ask a question please05:21
chalcedonyok ddellav05:21
BUSYas far as ssh public key safety, i could theoretically broadcast it to anyone, right?05:21
ddellavfyi i didn't see any full directories in that output05:21
ddellavchalcedony05:21
ddellavBUSY what do you mean safety?05:22
chalcedonyddellav, he's got an error on the update05:22
ddellava pub key does not grant access to any resources is thats what you mean05:22
BUSYi guess privacy.  if the private key is kept private, the public could fall into anyones hands?05:22
BUSYwith no consequences05:23
ddellavyes, thats why it's called the public key05:23
ddellavits meant to be given out05:23
BUSYi see.  that makes sense, if authorized_keys is like a whitelist, i just wasn't sure if you should only send your public to known hosts05:23
ddellavit's fine to send it anywhere :)05:24
chalcedonyddellav, is there a pastebin command for dmesg?05:24
infoteki refuse to use my words.05:24
ddellavI'm not sure what you mean chalcedony05:24
ddellavjust look and see if you see any segfaults or anything that looks bad05:25
ddellavadditionally you can look in /var/log/syslog05:25
ddellavit will have similar info05:25
infotekchalcedony: my words! I refuse to use them!05:25
chalcedonyddellav, syslog said something about chron05:25
ddellavthere will be entries about cron in the syslog, unless there's an error somewhere though it should be ok05:26
chalcedony 1.615154] i8042: PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp05:26
infotekwhat's going on with your cron?05:27
infotekchalcedony: that was your kernel telling you about a useful kernel parameter.05:28
chalcedony  56.694061] cgroup: new mount options do not match the existing superblock, will be ignored05:28
chalcedony 1.707332] MXM: GUID detected in BIOS05:28
chalcedonyi don't know enough to know, but nothing is jumping out05:30
infotekchalcedony: what is going on?05:30
infotekchalcedony: your errors seem random and would warrant a memtest.05:30
chalcedonyinfotek, oh?05:30
chalcedony[01:01:41] <chalcedony> hubby's ubuntu 16.04 box is crashing at odd times. I thought it was his weather app, dialing in and failing, so he removed that. But i was just now going to look something up on ff and it just .. crashed! it restarts ok, but he has been experiencing this a lot lately. Help?05:31
infotekchalcedony: define crash.05:32
infotekchalcedony: did the machine reboot?05:32
chalcedonyno it dies05:32
infotekchalcedony: define dies05:32
chalcedonythe power light stays on but nothing else05:32
chalcedonyscreen goes black05:32
chalcedonyfans stop turning05:32
infotekchalcedony: i would certainly look at ram while suspecting also video card/memory.05:33
chalcedonyrequires manually switching off the power supply and restarting05:33
infotekfans stop turning is interesting.05:33
infotekeven cpu fan?05:33
chalcedonyim not sure05:34
chalcedonyhe keeps the computer a long way from where i stand05:34
chalcedonythe power supply did not seem to be turning when i restarted it for him th is last time05:34
chalcedonyit is not a cheap or old power supply05:35
infoteki would check ram. cpu registers, cache video memory.05:35
chalcedonyok tell me how :) i'm ssh'd to him05:35
infotekyou situation sounds like a hardware malfunction.05:36
chalcedonyi would concur05:36
chalcedonyits summer and this is georgia.. what would summer be without a heardware problem?05:36
infotekchalcedony: i am in alabama05:37
* chalcedony throws a stone05:37
ddellavyea, if your system is physically turning off then it's a hardware issue05:37
infotekI use amidiag but it is commercial.05:37
ddellavi thought you meant the application crashed lol05:37
chalcedonyddellav, ah no the thing has to be restarted05:37
reansi have vps but when i install 16.04 os it was successfully installed but it seems no server daemon run in bootup. i cant access ssh and even to ping the ip not reachable any idea to fixed the issue is highly appreciated05:38
infotekchalcedony: when you boot from a recent ubuntu you get a menu item taht says memtest05:38
chalcedonyi see05:38
ddellavreans sounds like it wasn't installed properly05:38
infotekchalcedony: but if the cpu, cache, mb are bad you will get failed memtest.05:39
ddellavthough if you did the install yourself, i hope you chose to install the SSH server, otherwise yea, there will be no way to access it remotely05:39
infotekthen again you are unlikey to boot into a gui with cpu/cache issues.05:39
chalcedonyit boots ok05:39
infotekif it has a lot of memmory and two or more sticks, you can remove half and see if it still works.05:40
reansbut when i login the vps via console and run the services from console it will work but there is a certain when i configure like docker it seem error in bus not found something05:40
infotekif it fails swap the sticks.05:41
infotektry again.05:41
infotekdivide and conquer.05:42
chalcedonyinfotek, we can do that, he says05:42
chalcedonygive us a couple05:42
Jordan_Uchalcedony: infotek: If you boot the Ubuntu live media from a UEFI based machine you will not see a memtest option, because memtest86+ only supports BIOS.05:47
infotekif that is an issue you can download and write a recent version which supports both BIOS and UEFI chalcedony05:48
infotekMemTest86 V7 images supports dual booting (UEFI/BIOS)05:48
Jordan_Uchalcedony: infotek: You can use memtester from within a booted Ubuntu system, but it will only be able to test as much memory as it allocates, and it won't be able to allocate memory that's already in use by any other process.05:49
infotekJordan_U: can you noop sled into a remote system and test memory abitrarily?05:50
Jordan_Uinfotek: It's not so much that that's a more recent version, it's that the proprietary fork of Memtest supports UEFI and the open source version (memtest86+) doesn't.05:50
Jordan_Uinfotek: Even if you can find an exploit that allows you to write to and read from all of memory, your system won't stay up very long if you're constantly overwriting other process' memory.05:54
random_numbersDoes Ubuntu-Make work reasonably well from within an LXC container?05:55
Jordan_Uinfotek: If you're not booted via secure boot then you can just write to and read from /dev/mem. That's just not a terribly good idea :)05:55
infotekJordan_U: it is a terribly good idea :)05:57
infotekok guys, bed for me.06:01
dcypherCan anyone help me out .... I'd like to multitail aprox 20 log files and only print the lines that contain a comma ","  Can I use multitail and maybe sed -n '/,/p' ?? thanks!07:01
malinusdcypher: cat *.log | grep ,07:02
dcypherand then it stops07:03
dcypherI'd like to tail the logs07:03
dcypherI'm thinging multitail07:03
dcypherthinking07:03
kraiskilHow do I disable a systemd service (so it doesn't load on boot)? Google tells me 'sudo systemctl disable alsa-restore' should do it, but after boot, that service is still "active (exited)". (Ubuntu 16.04, if is relevant)07:10
kraiskilprobably SomeOtherService loads it, and 'systemctl mask alsa-restore' is a more forceful command :)07:15
EriC^^kraiskil: you have to mask it07:18
EriC^^nevermind :D07:19
kraiskilThanks anyways :)07:19
_TimonHi, I want to setup a local package mirror for our internal enviroment. I see apt-mirror being recommended in some places, but due to the recommended size of 120GB I am confident that this only includes the distro itself, and not the package repository.07:50
_TimonI've also seen ubuntu site itself recommend rsync and ~600GB of storage, but I think that that also includes older ubuntu installations that I don't require.07:51
_TimonBasically I want all supported packages for Xenial and Xenial itself on a local server.07:53
Ben64120GB sounds like a good size for it07:54
_TimonSo apt-mirror and "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial main restricted universe multiverse" should do the trick?07:55
tomreyndcypher: tail -f *.log | unbuffer grep ,08:14
colo-workalso: `grep --line-buffered`08:17
geirhano need for unbuffer08:17
geirhaonly necessary if you pipe grep to something08:17
frdmnHello!08:31
frdmnI have a strange problem with my Ubuntu 14.04 hardware server - it sometimes suddenly reboots (last shows "reboot system boot") but I cant figure out what or who exactly initiated the reboot command08:32
tomreynfrdmn: does auth.log tell?08:33
frdmnI went through "last", "dmesg", "syslog" "kern.log"08:33
frdmntomreyn: no authoriztion/login events at all08:34
frdmnIntressting enough, the reboots usually happen on ~06:5908:34
frdmnhttp://paste.frd.mn/raw/ogasu08:34
frdmnbut the day it happens seems to be varying08:34
frdmnI also went through all crontab / cron.d's as well as at-jobs08:35
tomreynunattended-upgrades?08:35
frdmn:o08:35
frdmnI have to check where to find it's schedule08:37
frdmndoes it has a separate log, because I see some entries in the apt history log08:37
frdmntomreyn: http://paste.frd.mn/raw/orugi08:38
tomreyngrep Automatic-Reboot-Time /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades08:38
tomreynis it commented in or out?08:39
frdmncommented in: http://paste.frd.mn/raw/refov08:39
tomreynso it's something else08:39
frdmncrud, I thought it's promising08:39
frdmntomreyn: what I find interesting is that the dmseg logs match the time whenever the reboots happen:08:40
frdmntomreyn: http://paste.frd.mn/raw/wizez08:40
frdmnbut, i couldn't find anything suspicious in there08:40
tomreynfrdmn: chances are that your daily cron jobs run at this time as per "grep daily /etc/crontab"08:42
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frdmntomreyn: seems to run at 06:25 - http://paste.frd.mn/raw/tazus08:43
tomreynso half an hour earlier08:44
frdmnyeah exactly08:44
tomreynfrdmn: this lists past shutdowns and runlevel changes, it might help to correlate those to the reboot times: last -x | less08:49
frdmntomreyn: aha!08:52
frdmnit looks like when ever it happens, it switches the active kernel?08:52
frdmnhttp://paste.frd.mn/raw/uvixo08:52
tomreynwhich is why i was assuming unattended-upgrades. maybe run "apt-config dump | grep -i reboot" just to be sure it's really off08:54
frdmnLOL08:54
frdmntomreyn http://paste.frd.mn/raw/otede08:54
frdmnokay, case closed08:54
tomreynso it's configured elsewhere08:55
frdmnany idea where it could be configured?08:55
frdmnshould I maybe do the dpkg-recofnigure on the package?08:55
tomreynwell surely somewher ein /etc/apt/apt.conf{,.d/}08:55
welcomepartyhi guys, does ubuntu kernel 4.6-* supports amd GPU driver already?08:56
welcomepartyi just upgraded the kernel, been struggling with my amd, since i was reading that the latest ubuntu kernel dont support amd till undefined period of time08:56
frdmntomreyn: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/local it is :)08:57
welcomepartyi guess the last time that ubuntu supported amd was in ubuntu 14.0x something08:57
welcomepartyplease share the info if you have any, thanks.08:58
tomreynfrdmn: congrats.;) some deployment mechanism may have put it there, such as puppet, chef or ansible09:00
frdmntomreyn: or the other alternative - the coworker who didn't add those parts to the server documentation :D09:01
frdmntomreyn: thanks a lot for your assistance09:01
tomreynbut would he ever do that!! ;)09:01
tomreynwelcome09:01
tomreynwelcomeparty: you use kernel 4.6 with which ubuntu release?09:02
frdmntomreyn: maybe you also can help with my originating problem, it appears that this sever lost the java binaries on the last reboot09:02
frdmnANY idea how this could happen?09:02
frdmnI just saw that the bins in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/* were deleted09:02
frdmnthe symlinks in /usr/bin/ were still there09:02
tomreynfrdmn: if those were packaged (.deb) and removed via apt then /var/log/apt/term.log should say.09:03
frdmnI fixed it by purging through dpkg and reinstalling through apt (where they came from)09:03
tomreynor /var/log/apt/term.log* rather09:03
frdmntomreyn: from term.log: http://paste.frd.mn/raw/amayo09:04
frdmninteresting...09:04
tomreynfrdmn: the older files then09:04
seven-elevenhi, to fix the intel bug on skylake i have to simply install this package? intel-microcode09:04
frdmnthe older files don't match the time09:04
tomreynseven-eleven: it's worth a try.09:05
frdmnthere are some previous events in term.log as well just pasted the relevant times09:05
frdmnbut those are at least one week before the incident09:05
tomreynfrdmn: then use auth.log / last to tell who was logged in and may have removed those manually09:06
seven-eleventomreyn, i can't and don't want to trigger the bug on my production server, that's why I need verification by the community :-]09:06
frdmntomreyn: that's the weird part - noone was on there09:06
frdmnit has to be happend automatically somehow09:06
seven-elevenhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/170037309:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700373 in intel-microcode (Ubuntu Zesty) "intel-microcode is out of date, version 20170707 fixes errata on 6th and 7th generation platforms" [Undecided,Fix committed]09:07
frdmnalong with the sudden (and now solved) reboot09:07
tomreynseven-eleven: i haven't heard of using intel microcodes making things worse rather than better. i do not know which "intel bug on skylake" you are especifically referring to, though.09:07
acresearchpeople where is the .bashrc file?09:08
seven-eleventomreyn, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/skylake-kaby-lake-chips-have-a-crash-bug-with-hyperthreading-enabled/09:08
frdmnacresearch: in your home folder09:08
acresearchthanks09:08
seven-elevenahh hyper threading is enabled on my machine "dmidecode -t processor | grep HTT"09:09
seven-elevenso i need to install it i reckon09:09
tomreynseven-eleven: to make use of microcodes you'll need to reboot anyways, so if that impacts your production server too much you may need to setup HA beforehand.09:10
seven-eleventomreyn, i got only like 5 visits a day on my webserver so shouldn't matter :-]09:10
tomreynseven-eleven: maybe you need OOB ;)09:11
seven-elevenyeah :-)09:12
tomreynwelcomeparty: still around?09:13
welcomepartytomreyn: yes09:14
tomreynwelcomeparty: did you spot the question i asked?09:14
welcomepartytomreyn: come again please?09:15
tomreyn<tomreyn> welcomeparty: you use kernel 4.6 with which ubuntu release?09:15
welcomepartytomreyn: ubuntu 16.04 xenial09:15
tomreynwelcomeparty: i don't think 4.6 is an official ubuntu kernel package, not at this time.09:15
welcomepartytomreyn: i grab it on some site09:16
welcomepartywhat is the latest official release tho?09:16
frdmntomreyn: based on this: there were kernel updates on each incidents right (aug-15 and aug-16): http://paste.frd.mn/raw/qemiv09:17
frdmnHow come I don't see those in the apt history?09:17
frdmnthis is from the history.log:  http://paste.frd.mn/raw/apalo09:18
tomreynwelcomeparty: xenial (16.04.0) comes with 4.4.0, but offers newer kernels through HWE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack09:18
tomreyn!hwe | welcomeparty09:18
ubottuwelcomeparty: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack09:18
tomreynfrdmn: what you posted shows a kernel upgrade taking place on 2017-08-16 ("aug-16")09:21
gnomethrowerI have an odd request09:21
gnomethrowerI've managed to delete my running 4.4 kernel from a Ubuntu 14.04 server09:21
gnomethrowerit's still booting because it can boot 3.13.0-128-generic09:21
gnomethrowerI want to restore the 4.4 kernel, so I tried this: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-generic-lts-xenial linux-headers-generic-lts-xenial linux-generic-lts-xenial09:22
gnomethrowerthen reinstalling those packages09:22
gnomethrowerhowever that doesn't seem to help and it's still missing from /boot09:22
welcomepartytomreyn: is there anyway to upgrade thro apt-get method? or need to download the kernel by single dpkg?09:22
tomreynfrdmn: it doesn't show it on 2017-08-15, but maybe the log is incomplete or the other kernel upgrade happened earlier.09:22
frdmntomreyn: but shouldn't I also see those in apt history log?09:22
tomreynfrdmn: you do. as i said, the apt hiostory log you posted to the pastebin shows a kernel upgrade09:23
frdmnah, gotcha09:23
welcomepartygnomethrower: wait, i dont think that kernel image is removable by apt-get method?09:23
gnomethrowerwelcomeparty: Correct... it's a long story :(09:24
welcomepartygnomethrower: why dont you reinstall the prev kernel by downloading it again, and installing it via dpkg -i kernel-*.deb?09:24
gnomethrowerwelcomeparty: I want to install the most current 4.4 kernel as recommended for Xenial09:25
gnomethrowernot sure where to find a deb of that09:25
welcomepartygnomethrower: there are sites to find it, i guess09:25
tomreynwelcomeparty: upgrade to what exactly?09:25
welcomepartytomreyn: can upgrade or install the latest kernel using apt method?09:26
welcomepartyi never done it tho09:26
welcomepartybut just asking09:26
gnomethrowerwelcomeparty: Hell yes :) https://askubuntu.com/questions/298853/how-to-reinstall-newest-linux-kernel09:27
gnomethrowerThat was actually fairly easy09:27
tomreyngnomethrower: please run these commands and show the entire in- and output on a pastebin: lsb_release -ds; sudo apt-get update; sudp apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-xenial linux-headers-generic-lts-xenial09:28
tomreynthats unless you just solved the issue.09:28
tomreynwelcomeparty: you can install the latest HWE kernel using apt, yes.09:28
tomreynyou could also install mainline kernel through apt, if you were using a PPA providing them, but that's unsupported.09:29
gnomethrowertomreyn: No, that fixed it :) Thanks everyone for the help09:29
welcomepartytomreyn: since i just read the HWE kernel is all about supporting the latest hardware, then what's the main diff with generic kernel?09:29
tomreynwelcomeparty: ...and you probbaly dont need / want to resort to mainline kernels09:29
welcomepartytomreyn: mainline kernel refers to?09:30
tomreynwelcomeparty: the main difference is that the HWE kernel supports newer hardware.09:30
tomreynwelcomeparty: mainline refers to what kernel.org provides.09:30
welcomepartytomreyn: alright. what are you using?09:30
tomreynwelcomeparty: that doesn't matter. what are you trying to achieve?09:31
welcomepartytomreyn: which is better? well, i wanted to utilize my GPU by enabling its driver, but i dont know the impact if i install the HWE09:31
tomreynwelcomeparty: please also be aware that you should not just download kernel images 'from somewhere' and use them, they could totally be malicious or, probably more likely, just incompatible, bokren, inadvertantly break your hardware.09:33
welcomepartymatter. what are you trying to achieve?09:33
welcomeparty16:31 < welcomeparty> tomreyn: which is better? well, i wanted to utilize my GPU by enabling its driver, but i dont09:33
tomreynwelcomeparty: which graphics card do you have there?09:34
welcomepartytomreyn: yes i get it, i was reading before that also09:34
welcomepartytomreyn: AMD A1209:34
tomreynwelcomeparty: lspci -knn | grep -A4 VGA09:35
mourHi, I can't fix the error "The system is running in low-graphics mode", and i already try apt update,upgrade09:36
mourNow, I am only use the tty to login my ubuntu09:36
mourhow to fix it?09:36
kristhianmour try -> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop; reboot09:39
tomreynwelcomeparty: please provide the output of the command i just posted to get support with your graphics card. please also state the problems you are facing with the 16.04 default kernel image adffecting this graphics chipset.09:39
welcomepartytomreyn: 4.6.0-040600-generic09:53
welcomepartytomreyn: http://termbin.com/nlq009:53
welcomepartytomreyn: you see stable kernel in kernel.org, is it ready to download in that tar file for most distributions?09:54
tomreynwelcomeparty: kernel.org are the upstream kernels, used by all linux distributions (after packaging them and adding their own patches). i do not recommend using them if you can get everything working fine with a default ubuntu kernel.10:01
tomreynwelcomeparty: you did not describe the problems you are currently experiencing, if any.10:01
tomreynalso, you currently use an unsupported kernel.10:02
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BluesKajHi folks10:11
Scoop7Hello, anyone can tell me how to remove background transperency in pinta ??10:14
someone_Hi , I'm looking for a control center for Ubuntu such as control center on Windows , Is there something like that ?10:20
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tomreynsomeone_: i don't know what "control center" on Windows is, can you describe it or provide a link?10:22
someone_tomreyn like this >>> http://thewindowsclub.thewindowsclubco.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/control-panel-windows-600x337.jpg10:24
tomreynsomeone_: so you mean control panel?10:25
someone_and How I can know , What are programs and libraries that I have installed and not that were installed with the ubuntu by default.10:25
someone_tomreyn yes10:25
thyriaenI have upgraded from an nvidia GPU to an AMD one ( hence my nividia drivers got deinstalled ) and vlc "disappeared" i got some issues with libgles1-mesa now as seen here : https://hastebin.com/ivupotifov.sql can someone help me out please ?10:26
BluesKajsomeone_, system settings10:26
tomreynsomeone_: ubuntu, ubuntu-gnome, xubuntu, ubuntu-mate, kubuntu and other blends provide something similar to windows control panel by default10:27
royal_screwup21what's the standard way to create a backup of all files and folders?10:27
someone_Ok , thanks10:29
oerheksroyal_screwup21, use the standard dejadup backup10:29
someone_How I can know What are the programs and libraries that I have installed and not that were installed with ubuntu by default.10:30
royal_screwup21oerheks: thanks!10:31
oerhekssomeone_, You can find all the files installed by a particular package by looking in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<name>.list10:32
oerheksor run dpkg -L packagename10:32
oerheksto list *all* files... why?10:34
someone_oerheks How I can know What I installed and what already were installed with the system , I don't want remove a package the system needs it .10:35
oerhekssomeone_, hard to do, filtering updates too..10:36
oerheksthere is a 'apt-mark showmanual' but shows only metapackages..10:37
someone_for that I'm looking for control panel like Windows control panel.10:38
oerheksBluesKaj answered that, system-settings10:38
someone_oerheks but system-settings does not provide way to see the packages that I have installed them10:39
BluesKajneither does control panel inwindows10:40
oerhekssomeone_, install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter, that gui can show with filters10:40
tomreynpackage management on windows works entirely different than it does on ubuntu and most other linux distributions.10:43
tomreynhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages10:43
oerheksi 'll vote for synaptic to be standard in 17.10  ...10:44
someone_BluesKaj No, in Windows I can see the software that I have installed and which are not came with the system by default so I can remove it easily without any effect on the system .10:44
someone_tomreyn , oerheks Thank you.10:47
tomreynhere's another way: zcat /var/log/apt/history.log* | grep '^Commandline: apt-get install ' | cut -d ' ' -f4- | tr ' ' "\n" | grep -v '^-'10:50
oerhekstomreyn, apt-mark showmanual would do for him, no need for finding individual files10:52
thyriaenI have upgraded from an nvidia GPU to an AMD one ( hence my nividia drivers got deinstalled ) and vlc "disappeared" i got some issues with libgles1-mesa now as seen here : https://hastebin.com/ivupotifov.sql can someone help me out please ?10:52
tomreynoerheks: for me, 'apt-mark showmanual' lists a lot of packages i never chose to install.10:54
tomreynbut then he left already10:55
tomreynthyriaen: probably some issue caused by use of a PPA. show the output of "lsb_release -ds; apt-get update; apt-get -f install; apt-cache policy"10:57
tomreyni need to leave now, though, but this is required for anyone to be bale to help10:58
BluesKajsomrone removing manually installe packages normally won't affect  the OS, this linux not windows10:58
BluesKajoops10:58
bonhoefferi set up a server on google compute engine to serve wordpress -- i started to use it for other things yesterday and wordpress (served via apache) isn't working10:59
bonhoefferi checked the apache logs, no problems there -- ps aux | grep apache2 shows it is running -- is there anything else i can check?10:59
oerheksbonhoeffer, if you find no answer here, ask again in #ubuntu-server too11:09
bonhoefferok11:10
help_itHi11:37
help_itWant to send rtmp packets to a server11:38
help_itPlease help11:38
stalephi, anyone here that could do me a favour? could you do a "stty -a" in a terminal and paste the output to me? :)11:42
gabrielcstalep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25325328/11:44
stalepgabrielc: thanks a lot!11:45
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gabrielcstalep: you're welcome11:49
ShinobiDoes ubuntu come with python 3 as the default version?11:50
Shinobi16.04 specifically11:50
oerheksShinobi, yes11:50
oerheks!info python3 xenial11:50
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.5.1-3 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 67 kB11:50
ShinobiThanks11:51
geirhapython defaults to python2 though11:52
oerheksboth are now standard, afaik11:53
geirhayes, I just mean that python symlinks to python2 and not python3 by default11:53
oerheksgeirha, oh, not sure about that..11:54
ioriaoerheks, ls -l /usr/bin/python11:57
oerheksnice ioria, that would say as standard?11:59
ioriaoerheks, yup, unless you change tyhat in the script shebang12:00
MrCrackPotBuildehi guys i managed to mod my login screen, start menu and destop also some other things but im struggling to find info on where the very first ubuntu boot loader image is12:58
MrCrackPotBuildeanyone know12:58
MrCrackPotBuildei looked in unity greeter but that just had .png files12:59
geirhamaybe you're thinking about plymouth?12:59
MrCrackPotBuildeim using the unity desktop13:00
MrCrackPotBuildeLooks like it could be plymouth13:01
oerheksit is in  /usr/share/plymouth/themes/ ?13:01
MrCrackPotBuildeand then if i want to edit this i just edit the scripts or is there an xml or similar set up13:02
oerhekssudo update-alternatives --install /usr/share/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth default.plymouth # and choose yours,  sudo update-initramfs -u # and reboot > https://superuser.com/questions/1102165/ubuntu-16-04-change-splash-screen13:03
geirhaMrCrackPotBuilde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth13:03
MrCrackPotBuildegeiraha thank you very much thats perfect justr what im looking for13:04
soLucienhello guys ! Is there such thing as system-wide proxy in ubuntu, or do I have to set it up for every single application ?13:10
soLucienseems like every application (apt, git) has an API for using a proxy server , but i'd like to know whether there's some OS-level proxy that all applications could respect13:12
ikoniathere used to be a global setting in the desktop13:12
ikoniaI don't know if thats still there13:12
oerheksjups, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-proxy.html13:12
soLucieni forgot to specify : i'm using ubuntu server, so a command-line version would be appreciated :D13:13
ikoniasoLucien: you could set it in the default /etc/profile13:15
SlartibartAfter upgrading to 17.04 my System settings no longer contains a Screens section, anyone knows why that is??13:15
ikoniaso that all app inherits the proxy varible13:15
ikoniayou'll need to be aware of any applications that need variations eg: rsync uses a different variable than wget13:15
oerheksSlartibart, screens? 'displays' i guess?13:15
gabrielcsoLucien: iptables rules ?13:16
Slartibartoerheks: You're probably right. Sorry, I'm usually not using it with english locale.13:16
soLuciengabrielc that seems fragile. I want all traffic to flow to someip:314213:17
soLucieni'll try the http_proxy env variable13:17
oerheksSlartibart, reinstall unity-control-center and logout/login might fix that?13:17
Slartibartoerheks: I'll try. Thanks for the suggestion.13:20
gabrielcsoLucien: are iptables rules flagile?13:24
soLuciengabrielc yes because ips/subnets change13:28
soLucienand also because i'm not so knowleadgeable with iptables13:29
SlartibartAfter upgrading to 17.04 my System settings no longer has a Displays section. Reinstalling unity-control-center didn't help. Anyone experienced that?13:32
malinusdcypher: just add -f to tail13:35
malinusdcypher: so tail -f *.log | grep ,13:35
uddaneCan anyone point me to a 'how to' article to lock down my PC?13:37
DoubleOhSe7enhow do I install GLEW libraries for windows on ubuntu?14:02
DoubleOhSe7encross-compiling for win32 from a linux machine14:02
DoubleOhSe7enany apt-gets?14:02
DoubleOhSe7encompiling my program, gives me an error (using x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc) gives me missing GL/glew.h, glm/glm.hpp etc.14:03
DoubleOhSe7enor am I supposed to manually download SDL2, GLEW, and GL libraries and compile them to cross compile for windows?14:08
DoubleOhSe7enbecause that'd be a huge pain to do14:08
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, usually helps posting the error14:13
DoubleOhSe7enioria: It's not really an error, gcc quits with "gl/glew.h not found. compilation terminated."14:15
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, gcc ?14:15
DoubleOhSe7enOops14:15
DoubleOhSe7eng++14:15
DoubleOhSe7enSorry, not gcc, that was g++14:15
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, no, i mean .... are you cross-compiling ?14:16
DoubleOhSe7enyes14:16
DoubleOhSe7enx86_64-w64-mingw64-g++14:16
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, ok14:16
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, does it work with  g++ or gcc ? (not mingw)14:17
DoubleOhSe7enyes14:17
DoubleOhSe7enI installed the entire mingw package14:17
DoubleOhSe7eni can compile simple programs to windows14:17
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, are you on windows , right now ?14:18
DoubleOhSe7enyes14:19
DoubleOhSe7eninfact14:19
DoubleOhSe7enI'm running this under the Linux System14:19
DoubleOhSe7en*subsystem14:19
DoubleOhSe7en(ubuntu subsystem for windows 10 i think it's called)14:20
DoubleOhSe7enbut i dont think it really matters14:20
DoubleOhSe7enmy question is there is a simple way to retrieve GL, SDL2, GLEW, and GLM libraries for Windows to cross compile on a linux system from one of the repositories or do I have to compile 'em myself?14:21
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, sy, not clear to me what are you using atm14:21
OneM_IndustriesSo, I'm attempting to use Gparted on 14.04 to transfer a partition from one drive to another, and it is failing with this error: https://pastebin.com/3DnJubgt Any ideas?14:22
ioriaDoubleOhSe7en, but 'gl/glew.h not found' is quite clear14:23
oerhekssudo apt-get install libglew-dev libsdl2-dev libsdl2-image-dev libglm-dev libfreetype6-dev  >> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenGL_Programming/Installation/Linux14:23
pavlosOneM_Industries: https://askubuntu.com/questions/747656/ext4-broken-file-system-on-ubuntu-14-04-414:25
DoubleOhSe7enoh thanks14:28
DoubleOhSe7enbut I did install libglew and everything14:28
DoubleOhSe7enI'll try the command and brb14:29
oerheksto build, one needs the -dev packages14:29
DoubleOhSe7enoerheks: I can build a Linux binary14:30
DoubleOhSe7enThe error I get is even I try to build a windows binary14:30
DoubleOhSe7ens/even/when14:30
oerheksi have no clue how to build with glew, just finding that info14:32
DoubleOhSe7enYeah, it seems you need to recompile SDL2, and all the other libs to cross-compile onWindows14:36
DoubleOhSe7enhttps://crankydev.wordpress.com/2016/11/04/setting-up-the-new-windows-bash-to-cross-compile-a-simple-directmedia-library-sdl2-application/14:36
DaVinciITunaehi all. sda1 boot full. I follow that guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/502971/dev-sda1-boot-is-full    but I get the same error:  Try 'apt-get -f install' ... can you help me please. version : Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64)14:45
tomreynDaVinciIT: show the outputs of 'df -h' and 'df -i'14:46
tomreyn!pastebin | DaVinciIT14:46
ubottuDaVinciIT: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:46
DaVinciITdf -h : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25326059/14:47
ubikitehi, i've created a snmp user but i cannot see the auth key in /var/lib/snmp/snmpd.conf what would you suggest? thanks.14:47
DaVinciITdf -i : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25326060/14:47
tomreynDaVinciIT: okay so /boot is indeed still full in terms of file system allocation14:48
DaVinciITyes :(14:48
tomreynsudo du -h /boot/*14:49
tomreynDaVinciIT: ^ check what's consuming all that space14:50
DaVinciITdu -h : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25326076/14:51
DaVinciITinitrd.img-4.4.0 *14:51
tomreynlooks like you have a lot of kernel images installed14:51
tomreyndpkg -S /boot/* 2>/dev/null | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq | xargs dpkg -l14:52
DaVinciITI try to purge but everytime, command go in error with Try 'apt-get -f install'14:52
DaVinciIThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25326081/14:52
tomreyni understand, we will work around it14:53
gh16itoI've got a problem where the display on my Ubuntu install starts getting funky over time. After a while, my second monitor stops working, then my window manager starts hanging (both problems happen in both Cinnamon and unity), then eventually my logon manager (lightdm, I think) starts hanging.14:55
tomreynDaVinciIT: sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic linux-image-4.4.0-65-generic linux-image-4.4.0-66-generic linux-image-4.4.0-70-generic linux-image-4.4.0-71-generic linux-image-4.4.0-72-generic linux-image-4.4.0-75-generic linux-image-4.4.0-78-generic14:55
tomreynthis is going to take a while14:55
tomreynafterwards you can run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install14:55
gh16itoI think in the past what I've done is that I've reinstalled the video drivers or uninstalled the nvidia driver in favor of something else.14:55
gh16itoNot sure if there's a more scientific way to track this down, though. I'm going to try to get a TTY so I can work from there.14:56
DaVinciITtomreyn: thank you. I try14:56
DaVinciITtomreyn: nothing to do .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25326107/14:57
tomreyngh16ito:  that's not specifically scientific, but you could check /var/log/Xorg.*.log for any (EE) records which indicate errors, then search these error messages online. you could also provide information on your current configuration here, maybe someone already knows this issue. lspci -knn | grep -A 5 VGA; lsb_release -sd14:58
gh16itoYeah, usually once I can get to an error message I'm off to the races14:59
tomreynDaVinciIT: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic14:59
pavlosDaVinciIT: is your /boot still 100% ?15:00
gh16itoIs there a way to do a one-off boot into tty?15:00
gh16itolightdm is crashing so quickly I can't even get into a TTY.15:00
tomreynpavlos: nothing was deleted so far, so i'd think so15:00
gh16itoI figure maybe boot into recovery then open grub, but I don't know where to go from there15:00
DaVinciIT:) 95% http://paste.ubuntu.com/25326131/15:00
DaVinciITtomreyn: can I try with ap-get update ; apg-get -f install ?15:01
pavlosDaVinciIT: maybe you need to delete some kernels directly from /boot, that will give room for apt and dpkg to work15:01
pavlosDaVinciIT: old kenrels, not the one you run (uname -r)15:02
tomreynDaVinciIT: i think pavlos is happy to help there, and he'll do so well.15:02
DaVinciITtomreyn: thank you very much.15:02
DaVinciITpavlos:  thank you I try :)15:02
tomreynwelcome ;)15:03
k_szeIf a kernel module fails to load during start-up, how should I spot it in the logs?15:04
k_szeIn particular, I'm interested in the ones that fail due to missing or invalid signature for SecureBoot.15:04
pavlosDaVinciIT: remove /boot/{abi,config,initrd.img,System.map,vmlinuz}-4.4.0.62-generic15:05
DaVinciITpavlos: I've delete 3 version. now I've 74% occupied. can I try to run apt-get update and -f  ?15:05
DaVinciITok I try15:05
pavlosDaVinciIT: yes update should work now15:05
DaVinciITpavlos : please, can you explain me (or suggest a link) , why old kernel stay there ? need I delete the previous one every time I install updates ? thank you.15:09
pavlosusually after an update/upgrade, you do apt autoremove to clean up old kernels. It can be set to do so automatically15:10
DaVinciITthank you15:10
DaVinciITI see that "apt-get update" are re-installing old kernel (e.g. 62)15:10
nacc'apt-get update' doesn't install anything15:11
DaVinciIT:) ok15:11
DaVinciIT"Unpacking linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic (4.4.0-62.83) ..."15:11
tomreynk_size: here's an example of what it would look like under 16.04 LTS systemd-udevd[433]: Process '/sbin/modprobe nvidia-modeset' failed with exit code 1.15:12
pavlosDaVinciIT: the kernels you have in /boot should be the same as in, dpkg -l | grep linux-image (to keep things nice and tidy15:12
DaVinciITok15:13
tomreynk_sze: signature verification errors look more like this: kernel: [    1.273379] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel15:13
k_szetomreyn: I see. Thanks.15:14
gh16itoWhen I modify grub to boot in "text" mode, it still boots into lightdm, anyone know how to boot into a TTY instead?15:32
gh16itoCtrl + Alt + F1 doesn't work because lightdm is crashing almost immediately.15:32
ioriagh16ito, sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target  ; reverse with sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target15:33
gh16itoOh , it might be a systemd thing.15:33
gh16itoAha, thanks ioria.15:34
iorianp15:34
holgerdanskehttps://pastebin.com/MBu2tJh415:41
holgerdanskeI'm getting that when I try to install the "Guest Extensions" for VirtualBox under Ubuntu 17.0415:41
washuu_deIs this channel ok to ask about weird behavior on ZESTY after I updated from TRUSTY?15:42
holgerdanskeAny assistance would be obliged.15:43
naccwashuu_de: no need for all caps. Did you go 14.04 -> 16.04 -> 17.04 ?15:43
ioriaholgerdanske, the host ?15:45
LordDragonhey all15:45
tomreynholgerdanske: https://maheshhika.com/2012/09/28/virtual-box-verr_pdm_media_locked/15:45
gh16itoBasically reinstalling all my graphics drivers (as I apparently have to do intermittently now) fixed my problem.15:46
LordDragonso im using the "find" command with -type f and -mtime +14 to delete files older than 14 days15:46
gh16itoThanks ioria and tomreyn15:46
washuu_denacc: I installed 16.10 in a new partition15:47
LordDragonyet depsite today being the 16th of august15:47
tomreynholgerdanske: also make sure the guest additions iso file is actually present on the host15:47
LordDragonfiles from august 1st are still there15:47
LordDragonwhat am i doing wrong?15:47
ioriagh16ito, you'r welcm15:47
naccwashuu_de: when? 16.10 is EOL. And what does that have to do with a upgrade?15:47
naccLordDragon: +14 would imply 15 days (due to fractional rounding)15:49
LordDragonoh15:49
LordDragonhmm15:49
LordDragonhow do i get modification date in ls ?15:49
naccLordDragon: see `man find` doc on '-atime'15:49
OneM_IndustriesSo, I'm trying to transfer a ubuntu install from one HDD to another, and I can't seem to get it to work.15:49
BluesKajusing dd?15:50
OneM_IndustriesI've used Gparted to copy the partition and set the boot flag, but for some reason the new drive is still not working in the machine.15:50
naccLordDragon: `ls -l` i think?15:50
LordDragonoh ok. i thought that was file creation date15:50
naccLordDragon: i think it uses mtime by default15:50
washuu_denacc: the drive with my root partition with Trusty is (hopefully only temporally) dead. So I installed 16:10 from a SVS15:50
naccLordDragon: see `man ls`15:51
gabrielcLordDragon: -t     sort by modification time, newest first15:51
OneM_IndustriesBluesKaj: No, the partition copy tool in GParted.15:51
tomreynLordDragon: you can also use 'stat' instead of 'ls' to see all time stamps15:51
washuu_deSinse 16.10 is unsupportes I updated online15:51
nacctomreyn: +1, stat is more useful than the flags to `ls` imo as well15:51
naccwashuu_de: right, so you didn't upgrade from trusty to zesty. you installed yakkety and upgraded to zesty?15:52
LordDragonok so theres no way to get EXACTLY 14 days then?15:52
LordDragonquestion about crontab. what happens if for some reason the machine is off during a time specific job15:53
LordDragonsuch as "00 00 * * * root command.sh"15:54
MrCrackPotBuildeim getting a firmware error to do with my cpu according to this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2337563 i should download the file but mine isnt from kabylake skylake or broxton its from  Sandy Bridge15:54
washuu_detrue... My problem is that I get a few thousand messages into the syslog each time I reboot. There are also other problems. But I suspect Zesty doesn't work with Metacity. Is that true?15:54
LordDragondoes it go the job upon boot after the fact?15:54
LordDragongo=do15:54
Southern_GentlemLordDragon,  it runs at the next time it is suppose to15:54
LordDragonSouthern_Gentlem: ok so it would skip the job when the machine was off15:54
naccLordDragon: presumable a ! -newermt <time> ?15:54
Southern_Gentlemit wouldnt know the time it was off15:55
naccLordDragon: where <time> is generated to be <now - 14 * 24 hours>15:55
xplora1aLordDragon, look at anacron this will run previously schduled tasks whe you turn back on. man anacron15:55
BluesKajOneM_Industries, never heard of that gparted option, I've always used dd15:55
tomreynMrCrackPotBuilde: which ubuntu release are you running there? lsb_release -ds15:56
OneM_IndustriesOk. From what I know of both, they are roughly identical.15:56
campitorgm everyone15:56
holgerdansketomreyn you saved my life15:57
MrCrackPotBuilde16.0415:57
MrCrackPotBuildethink its zesty15:57
tomreynMrCrackPotBuilde: so 16.04.0? or something else?15:57
MrCrackPotBuildethe latest version of 16.0415:57
tomreynholgerdanske: anytime, if it just involves providing commands on irc.15:57
MrCrackPotBuildethe comp isnt booted at the minute trying to figure out how to fix it15:58
tomreynMrCrackPotBuilde: can you run the command i provided?15:58
campitorI have a live usb flash that I created a few months back. Now it logs in automatically, but I can't remember my sudo password, can someone walk me through how I can reset my sudo pasword? it is 16.04.2 64 bit15:58
washuu_denacc:true... My problem is that I get a few thousand messages into the syslog each time I reboot. There are also other problems. But I suspect Zesty doesn't work with Metacity. Is that true?15:58
MrCrackPotBuildechanging my boot splash really did a number on the comp15:58
campitorif you have time and don't mind15:58
tgm4883!password | campitor15:58
ubottucampitor: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords15:58
naccwashuu_de: i don't see why metacity wouldn't work?16:00
MetacityIt's true that I'm unemployed at the moment... :P16:00
naccMetacity: :)16:00
SimonNLcaptured by some system I hope Metacity just like me.16:01
tomreynMrCrackPotBuilde: sorry i hadn't read that the system is not running, yet. by the way, these are wanrnings, as indicated by the leading 'W:' (not errors). so they may not be that relevant.16:01
washuu_denacc:I have to collect tnfo of errors and warnings that weren't there with Trusty.16:02
BluesKajOneM_Industries, assume you created a boot flag on the first target partition16:02
OneM_IndustriesYep.16:02
campitortgm4883 : thank you tgm4883, But I can not find any "rescue mode option" that the guide suggests, is it the same as recovery mode?16:03
xplora1aLordDragon, if you list out /etc/anacron it will probably have statements to run everything in cron.daily cron.weekly and cro.monthly so if you put your script in there it will just sort it out for you.16:03
tgm4883campitor: yes, recovery mode16:04
washuu_deCan it be that Metacity is running on Unity and Unity doesn't like metacity? Like I don't like Unty?16:05
campitortgm4883 : there are two recovery mode options: 4.10, and 4.8...16:05
OneM_IndustriesBluesKaj: Worst-case, I can stick with the old drive.16:05
tgm4883campitor: those are kernels, pick one16:05
campitoralright16:05
campitorpicked 4.1016:05
OneM_IndustriesIt's not failing, just ancient.16:05
LordDragonxplora1a: i just used crontab -e :)16:05
xplora1awell that will end up in crontab, and will only run if the machine is on at thet time, no retrospective running.16:07
LordDragonxplora1a: does anacron run as root?16:07
campitortgm4883 : ok, a window appeared, then it went ahead to a terminal and now is asking me press enter for maintenance or press control d to continue16:08
xplora1aThinks like logrotate need to run daily, if you machine is off at midnight they wont run, so logs can build up. So anacron ensures that if the task hasent run within a period then it is started.16:08
campitorthanks for helping me by the way16:08
campitorthat guide really needs to be totally updated16:09
campitor;(16:09
tgm4883campitor: so update it when we're done ;)16:09
tgm4883campitor: IIRC, you want maintenance16:09
xplora1aLordDragon, yes all tasks run as the root user, you can add su <username> to switch.16:09
campitoryou can be certain of it16:09
tgm4883campitor: and then it should give you a menu with one of the options being a shell16:09
campitortgm4883 : yes there was, I am there now16:11
campitorso should I continue with the commands from the guide?16:11
tgm4883campitor: ok, so you should be logged in as root now, so just do "passwd <username>" and it will have you change the password16:12
washuu_denacc: maybe there is a channel that you know of that deals with metacity problems?16:12
nacc!alis | washuu_de16:12
ubottuwashuu_de: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"16:12
campitorit just suddenly took me out of there, I don't know some network or something...16:13
zenguyusb creation, rufus or netboot?16:14
campitorme zenguy ?16:14
zenguyno just asking which is better16:14
xplora1aLordDragon, I use this in one of my scripts su -c "get-iplayer --pvr" stuart16:14
campitorI have never had a problem with ubuntu's built in usb maker16:15
xplora1aruns the command under the user stuart16:15
campitorzenguy : use ubuntu's default16:15
zenguyok ty :)16:15
campitornp, just a suggestion though, I am not a pro16:15
washuu_denacc: None that alis could find :-(16:16
naccwashuu_de: well, you've not actually describe a problem, so it's hard to provide any insight16:17
campitortgm4883  I entered command: passwd tman, and then entered qqq as passwd, but it saysauthentication token manipulation error16:17
campitorpassword unchanged16:17
tgm4883campitor: hmm, are you mounted ro probably16:17
campitorok, probably16:18
washuu_debrb16:19
campitoryeap16:24
campitordone nicely16:24
campitorthanks16:24
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washuu_denacc:OK. The first problem is that I get hundreds of syslog lines from readahead when I restart.16:31
naccwashuu_de: disable readahead?16:32
w9qbjrypervenche: thanks, your fsck suggestion last night worked  - actually modified fstab to do it.16:32
rypervenchew9qbj: Awesome :)16:35
rypervenchew9qbj: Out of curiosity, how did you modity fstab to do it? (I'm not yet using systemd, so it helps to learn these things as I help).16:35
washuu_deOk. I see wgat it is good for. And how can I disable t? The 'service <service> status command doesn't work anymore in Zesty.16:35
washuu_denacc: I forgot to prefix my msg with 'nacc:' again16:37
alkisgHi, I'm using xul-ext-ublock-origin, but now with firefox 55 it got marked as "legacy" and isn't running anymore. I see also xul-ext-ubufox marked as legacy. Any bug reports about them, any workarounds etc?16:38
tomreynalkisg: i guess you youl duninstall the package and use the upstream firefox add-on instead16:40
MrCrackPotBuildehey tomreyn im able to log into ubuntu what was the command to find the ubuntu16.04.???16:40
tomreyn(i have not checked whether the upstream add-on works around the deprecation, but it's popular enough thhat i imagine it would be)16:41
tomreynMrCrackPotBuilde: to determine your exact version? lsb_release -ds16:41
MrCrackPotBuilde16.04.3 lts16:42
alkisgtomreyn: wouldn't that mean that I'd need to file a bug request so that the newer version is packaged?16:42
alkisgtomreyn: also, I don't think ubufox is available via some other method than the ubuntu repositories...16:42
tomreynalkisg: if that's an official package for your ubuntu release and no one has reported this bug, yet, sure, do it.16:43
alkisgtomreyn: ok, that was my question, if anyone can find a bug report because I can't...16:43
naccwashuu_de: systemctl16:44
naccwashuu_de: it seems like you should have moved to 16.04, not 17.04, imo16:44
alkisgAbout ublock, ok, not everyone is using it, but I would imagine ubufox, being installed by default, would affect all users, so a bug report should be there already...16:44
isomorphismesI upgraded to 16.04 and am having problems with gcc. I uninstalled and reinstalled build-essential (as suggested in an SO answer) but to no avail.16:46
isomorphismesC compiler cannot create executables16:46
isomorphismes/usr/bin/ld: cannot find crtbegin.o: No such file or directory16:46
tomreynalkisg: while xul-ext-ubufox is in the 'main' section, xul-ext-ublock-origin is in 'universe', so it receives community support (only)16:46
isomorphismesI do have /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/5/crtbegin.o.16:46
alkisgtomreyn: xul-ext-ublock-origin is maintained by chris coulson16:47
naccisomorphismes: `file /usr/bin/ld`?16:47
alkisgtomreyn: but anyways, let's start with the ubufox issue, which is in main and preinstalled in all desktop variants, isn't that currently broken for everyone?16:48
alkisgtomreyn: I thought that the legacy plugins would break in firefox 57, and not in 55=current, so maybe they missed some config...16:48
washuu_denacc: You are right. I dreaded to reinstall, though. Am I right thAt I can download 16.04 and burn it on a DVD and then boot from it ?16:49
naccwashuu_de: should be fine -- i'd suggest usb rather than dvd, but whatever works best for you16:49
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washuu_deI have no USB stick.16:50
tomreynalkisg: it's possible that the only reason those add-ons are marked as legacy is thzat they're not installed throuigh addons.mozilla.org and thus don't have a signature firefox would consider valid, but i really know nothing about the deprecation you're discussing. i don't even know which ubuntu release you have there.16:51
campitori have setup a wifi hotspot on my laptop using a live ubuntu, now the problem is I don't know which option to use so that I can change the generated file in system-connections folder, to use 8.8.8.8 as the dns for all wifi conne3cting devices16:52
campitorhow can I do that?16:52
naccwashuu_de: oh ok16:52
campitordns-search=8.8.8.8 ?16:52
gabrielccampitor: check http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/nmcli.1.html for network-manager managed interfaces16:53
campitordns=8.8.8.8;16:54
campitorI think it should work16:54
isomorphismesnacc: symbolic link to i686-linux-gnu-ld16:54
gabrielccampitor: https://people.freedesktop.org/~lkundrak/nm-docs/nmcli-examples.html16:54
washuu_denacc:Can I just burn the iso file or do I have to convert it somehow?16:54
alkisgtomreyn: I believe that if you go to about:addons, you'll see that you have ubufox and it's marked legacy. I'm using stock 16.04.3 packages.16:55
naccisomorphismes: ok, so 32-bit install, that's what i was checking16:55
isomorphismesnacc: thx. I am thinking of changing everything to 64-bit because I think something somewhere might have gotten confused in the upgrade process16:55
isomorphismesnot exactly sure why I think that but have thought of changing for years and am already spending time on the upgrade....16:55
isomorphismes....and it removes one source of variation...16:56
naccisomorphismes: i'm not sure. Did you uninstall or purge build-essential?16:57
isomorphismesnacc: uninstall, not purge16:58
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isomorphismesnacc: so maybe purging and reinstall build-essential is the first thing to try?16:59
naccisomorphismes: that's what i'd try17:01
tomreynalkisg: i see what you mean. in fact all the add-ons i'm using are marked as 'legacy', neither of them are disabled for this reason, however. so it's just that mozilla is starting the deprecation phase now.17:03
campitorgabrielc : I am sorry but I didn't understand a word from those documents. I only need to setup the dns of the wifi hotspot. using the config file17:05
washuu_denacc:nvm... I'm reading the instructions.17:05
alkisgtomreyn: do you have firefox 55, or some older version?17:06
campitorbecause when you setup a 'shared hotspot' there is just no option to change DHCP or DNS settings17:06
tomreynalkisg: i got 55.0.1 on xubuntu on this system i was discussing just now.17:07
campitorgabrielc : ?17:07
alkisgtomreyn: I don't see e.g. ubufox and ublock marked as disabled, but they don't appear, their code isn't being executed at all. Which extension do you have that still works?17:08
tomreynalkisg: I've got "Ubuntu Modifications" listed as legacy but active, this should be 'ubufox'. all other add-ons which i have not chosen to disable are still listed as active, and as far as i can tell, still work.17:10
tomreynalkisg: if i interpret https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ublock-origin/+bug/1602349 correctly then uubufox hasn't been working for a year or so.17:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1602349 in ublock-origin (Ubuntu) "xul-ext-ublock-origin is disabled by firefox for lack of signature" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:17
alkisgtomreyn: do you mean "ublock hasn't been working"? It stopped working today...17:18
alkisgSignatures  aren't necessary for locally installed extensions anymore17:18
tomreynalkisg: oh okay, that explains why your ublock xul package still worked till yesterday.17:19
tomreyni'm not sure why it would have stopped working today, though17:20
tomreynalkisg: have you tried starting firefox from a temrinal to see the messages printed? also check the web console.17:20
alkisgtomreyn: today was the firefox 54 to 55 upgrade... Start-Date: 2017-08-16  11:14:06 Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade Upgrade: linux-libc-dev:amd64 (4.4.0-91.114, 4.4.0-92.115), xul-ext-ubufox:amd64 (3.2-0ubuntu1, 3.4-0ubuntu0.16.04.1), firefox-locale-el:amd64 (54.0+build3-0ubuntu0.16.04.1, 55.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.2), firefox-locale-en:amd64 (54.0+build3-0ubuntu0.16.04.1, 55.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.2), firefox:amd64 (54.0+build3-0ubuntu0.17:23
isomorphismesnacc: thanks, same problem though17:24
oerheksalkisg,  open in browser: about:config?filter=extensions.legacy.enabled and set it to true? in my FF55 it is true already17:25
oerheksfound @ https://www.ghacks.net/2017/08/12/how-to-enable-legacy-extensions-in-firefox-57/17:26
alkisgoerheks: yes, it's set to true here as well17:27
nemooerheks: heh. yeah. that was the first thing I searched for17:27
alkisgMaybe ublock is using some api that has been disabled :/ I'll need to try another legacy extension to see if it works or not...17:27
nemoalkisg: for me it was Tab Candy17:27
nemoer. Tab Groups17:28
AdyethsI just installed the latest firefox updates in ubuntu 16.04 ... and now firefox only wants to run in headless mode. No browser window now. Does anyone have any idea how to fix that so it runs normally again?17:28
tomreynalkisg: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/05/16/compatibility-firefox-55/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/02/16/the-road-to-firefox-57-compatibility-milestones/17:29
tomreynnemo: so in your case it's probably this change which is getting in the way: "Replace the sNextTabParent setup with something more robust. This mainly affected tab add-ons that use or override openURIInFrame and related functions"17:31
alkisgtomreyn: sounds like a possible cause, if ff 54/55 cause some legacy extensions not to run...17:31
Inferno_geekI have an error: When I try to open something like software properties or update manager, the graphic authentication window opens for a second, then it closes. Is there a way to get it working?17:32
nemotomreyn: well. that and the Tab Groups author having given up in depression17:32
nemotomreyn: noscript is another one too, although I usually don't run that in nightly17:32
tomreynnemo: i have noscript installed, it still works here.17:32
nemotomreyn: it's funny tho. if you enable "legacy" in nightly you still can't reinstall your addons in a clean profile17:32
nemotomreyn: oh???17:32
nemotomreyn: huh. I was subscribed to the tracking bug17:32
nemothere as no move on it recently17:33
tomreynv5.0.8.117:33
oerheksAdyeths, remove the ~/.mozilla and ~/.cache/mozilla folders and restart FF17:33
nemoomg17:33
nemotomreyn: I mised a FIXED!17:33
nemoyaaaay!17:33
nemotomreyn: Tab Groups and NoScript were the 2 I install almost everywhere17:33
tomreyn:)17:33
washuu_denacc:The DVD is burned. Thank you for the tip. I try if it works as live-CD17:34
nemotomreyn: great so if someone takes over Tab Groups I'll be all set - my backup plan was ESR17:34
nemodid not look forward to reorganising all those tabs yet again17:34
nemowas annoying enough when it was stripped from default and I had to fix all my hundreds of tabs by hand months ago17:35
NikoliBHello... was joining Ubuntu-Beginners seems it forwards to here..17:35
Adyethsthank you oerheks ... I will try that. I had removed .mozilla but forgot about .cache ... hopefully it works.17:35
nemotomreyn: http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html  this was the tab groups author's rant btw - he mentions some other addons, but since I don't use 'em, am not invested 😃17:35
Adyethsnope, didn't work. still insists on running headless.17:36
DJonesNikoliB: Yes thats right, I think that channel got merged here some time ago17:36
nemotomreyn: oh. wait. no it isn't.. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121473317:36
ubottuMozilla bug 1214733 in WebExtensions: Compatibility "[tracking] Support NoScript as a WebExtension" [Normal,New]17:37
nemotomreyn: still broken17:37
nemotomreyn: the fixed message was for a dependency17:37
tomreynnemo: all i can tell i that noscript v5.0.8.1 (installed from AMO) works for me on this xubuntu 16.04.3 amd64 with firefox 55.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.217:39
tomreynit is still marked as 'legacy', of course, and not a 'WebExtension', yet (and probably can never be).17:41
NikoliBSo anyone got a good list of sites/books to start with? I'm not really a beginner but don't work in Linux on a daily basis so don't want to assume I can skip something17:42
DJones!manual | NikoliB17:43
ubottuNikoliB: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:43
nemotomreyn: yeah. I'm referring to firefox 5717:44
nemotomreyn: 55 is still fine17:44
nemotomreyn: basically working up my fallback plan 😉17:44
nemotomreyn: in 57 nightly (and maybe beta) you can still enable legacy with a config flag, and that's what I do17:44
nemotomreyn: you can't install legacy tho, unless you hit the xpi manually.  AMO hides them17:44
tomreynnemo: i see. didnt notice you discussing firefox 5717:44
NikoliB@ubottu thanks. I work in IT and have for a while just trying to get back into linux and linux based hypervisors17:45
nemotomreyn: it was kind of a response to oerheks link - was noting I'd done the same thing17:45
AdyethsI installed the latest firefox updates in ubuntu 16.04 ... and now firefox only wants to run in headless mode. No browser window now. Does anyone have any idea how to fix that so it runs normally again? (deleting ~/.cache/mozilla and ~/.mozilla didn't work.)17:49
NikoliBis the O'Reilly Linux book in a Nutshell I think still the top read?17:50
Adyethsanyone know where I can go to get some help with a problem with firefox in Ubuntu?17:55
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loppy2is that deja dup gui hackup a front end to duplicity? or a seperate program?18:21
NikoliBgiven this is an Ubuntu themed channel I'm guessing I know the general consensus but any suggestions/reasons about which flavor of linux to dig into for IT realted work? CentOS because it's based off RedHat?18:21
PiciNikoliB: theres ##linux if you want a more general consensus.  We're just going to say Ubuntu here.18:22
NikoliBRight that was a my guess as well18:23
PeyamHi, I have diable startup applications in .config/startup still when I restart the distro they will start again18:55
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loppy2does deja dup have a official repo?19:13
gondolfAnyone here familiar with bind dns?19:20
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JustTheDoctorhello i am currently using a ubuntu 16.04 VPS and would like to check my source.list and make sure its upto current official repo's for the version/upgrades can anyone take a look at my pastebin of my source.list and recommend what to lose and what to add?19:56
JustTheDoctorhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HXSnpkZw/19:57
oerheksJustTheDoctor, enable what you want in softwarecenter > sources # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories19:59
JustTheDoctorI want to upgrade my 16.04 to 17.04 and i have a vps with ssh terminal access only at the moment,19:59
oerheksnot sure if that VPS gives an option.. usually they are heavily tweaked19:59
JustTheDoctoronce i can upgrade to 17.04 i will be installing / setting up a xfce based vnc server20:00
oerheksJustTheDoctor, upgrade? see that VPS manual, or ask them for an up2date image?20:00
JustTheDoctoraparently all i needed to do was sudo apt update and sudo apt dist-upgrade20:01
JustTheDoctorsee, ubuntu is the OS, the vps can do whatever ubuntu can do,20:02
oerheksdist-upgrade does not bring 17.04 .. just saying20:02
JustTheDoctorno special "manual" needed.20:02
oerheks!distupgrade20:02
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.20:02
JustTheDoctorhttp://idroot.net/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-16-10-ubuntu-17-04/ this tells me what to do, it involves making do-release-upgrade work20:02
oerheksJustTheDoctor, go ahead, try it, i guess you will fail.20:02
JustTheDoctorand if i dont, do i get a cookie?20:03
JustTheDoctorlol20:03
oerhekssure :-D20:03
JustTheDoctorok here's where i need a lil help20:04
JustTheDoctorhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MSmcTTtZ/20:04
JustTheDoctordo i want normal or lts?20:04
warri0rrLTS = long term support20:04
JustTheDoctoris 16.04 a lts release?20:04
warri0rryes20:04
Piciyes20:04
JustTheDoctorok thank you20:05
oerhekslts = 16.04 -> 18.04 ( not out yet)20:05
warri0rrEvery two years there is a lts20:05
oerheksso i guess 'normal'20:05
warri0rr12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 etc20:05
JustTheDoctorwhat is zesty?20:05
JustTheDoctoris ubuntu 17.04 zesty?20:05
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warri0rr!ubottu zesty20:06
JustTheDoctor!ubuntu zesty20:07
JustTheDoctorhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes yup, looks like it.20:07
warri0rrI thought the bot had an entry for that20:07
warri0rrCheck g00gle20:07
JustTheDoctorso lts didnt work,20:08
oerheks!zesty20:08
ubottuUbuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/zesty20:08
warri0rr...20:08
JustTheDoctori changed it to normal, and its updating to zesty20:08
JustTheDoctormy vps must not have been a official lts release version20:08
oerheks"so lts didn't work"... yeah, why asking and not accepting answers..20:08
warri0rrI would have chosen lts..20:08
warri0rrfor the vps20:08
JustTheDoctori asked, listened to warri0rr and then it  failed20:08
warri0rrUnless it's short term20:09
oerhekswarri0rr +1, lts is stable for VPS indeed20:09
JustTheDoctorwhen i did lts, the command couldnt find a update, when i changed it to normal, it found zesty and is updating20:09
warri0rrThe thing with ubuntu is that release upgrades tend to break things..20:09
JustTheDoctorwarri0rr: i think the 16.04 i was running is a heavily modified version from my vps provider that is a one size fits all, i dont think it was 'officially' 16.04 lts,20:09
TwoNotesMy Ubuntu box has an Intel dual-band 7260 wifi card, yet 5GHz band is not offered.  What setting do I need to change?   Admin region is already set to US20:12
JustTheDoctorWelcome to Ubuntu 17.04 (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab123.9 x86_64)20:20
JustTheDoctorYAY it worked,20:20
JustTheDoctorthanks guys20:20
fiordDunno if he's still here, but just want to say thanks kostkon, I took the plunge and upgraded to Xenial. Took a bit but the Oibaf drivers work with my card and things are running really well now.21:07
Fa1thhello22:07
Fa1thI have a problem with ubuntu and ubuntu flavours22:07
Fa1thEvery os compared to windows feels laggy22:07
Fa1thThe gui animation stutters and is slow22:07
Fa1thwhat can be the cause?22:07
tomreynFa1th: this can be due to limited hardware support in open source drivers.22:11
oerheksFa1th, what are the specs of your machine, and graphics card?22:11
tomreynyou may want to switch to proprietary drivers instead.22:11
Fa1thi5 7500, gtx 1060 3gb and 8 gb of ram22:11
tomreynalso, lack of RAM could be why. indeed, more info needed.22:11
tomreynare you using open source or proprietary graphics drivers?22:12
Fa1thstock didnt change anything22:12
Fa1thI'am currently on windows hdd22:13
tomreynok, that's the open ones then22:13
Bashing-omFa1th: Pastenin ' sudo lshw -C ' let's know the graphic's driver situation in general .22:13
Bashing-ompastebin*22:14
tomreynSettings -> Additional drivers lets you switch to proprietary drivers.22:14
tomreynon the other hand, with this hardware, i would have assumed it not to feel sluggish on nouveau.22:15
tomreyn(so it might be something else)22:15
Fa1thYes i had a old laptop with a i3 2130m and 8 gb of ram ,and after like opening up the browser the system was overheating and was unresponsive22:15
Fa1thAnd now with this hardware i'am shocked that i have animation lags22:16
Fa1thpc isnt overheating i checked some temps and it was like on windows22:16
tomreynstill more info is needed, i was just guessing wildly. i suggest you do as Bashing-om says.22:17
Fa1thOk Thanks for the help will try to switch to the proprietary and see if it fixes it, i also was searching on the webs and people recommend some compiz hack and disable sync to vblank22:17
Bashing-omtomreyn: Yay team !22:18
kk4ewtFa1th,  first thing would be open it up and clean the heatsink and redo the processor gue22:18
Fa1ththe pc build is fresh22:18
Fa1thlike 3-4 months22:18
Fa1thon windows everything is fine22:18
Fa1thmax temp while heavy gaming 65 C on cpu and 73 on gpu22:18
* tomreyn high 5's22:19
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apathie00Any one around that could answer a question for me?23:03
oerhekshi apathie00, ask wait and see23:04
apathie00I'm trying to install 16.04 via cd and usb key and get the same error when booting23:05
apathie00invalid arguement for filesystem23:05
oerheksDid you perform a check on the iso?23:06
oerheks!md5sum23:06
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM23:06
apathie00i checked the md5 on the download that was proper23:06
oerheksoke, then what is on that HDD?23:07
apathie00when booting i tried to use the check disk23:07
apathie00It was a windows 7, installed suse but didnt like it23:07
Bashing-omapathie00: ^ Boot the installer, and pastebin the result of terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . We see then what you are working with .23:07
apathie00[sudo] password for root:23:08
apathie00Model: ATA TOSHIBA MK5061GS (scsi)23:08
apathie00Disk /dev/sda: 500GB23:08
apathie00Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B23:08
apathie00Partition Table: msdos23:08
apathie00Disk Flags:23:08
nacc!pastebin | apathie0023:10
ubottuapathie00: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:10
apathie00how much came through23:10
apathie00bot silenced me23:10
apathie00http://paste.ubuntu.com/25328754/23:11
apathie00link to info23:11
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oerheksoh, btrfs/xfs .. remove partition 2 5 6 7, and hit install again?23:15
oerheks* first 5 6 7, then 223:15
apathie00oerheks thanks for the advice restarting to see how i get on23:22
SkyLord12345hello23:38
Bashing-omSkyLord12345: Speak, and you shall be spoken to ( as in type it ).23:40
SkyLord12345i install Jitsi - how do i video call with it? I am writing via Jitsi right now23:43
naccSkyLord12345: is jitsi an ubuntu package?23:44
Bashing-om!info Jitsi23:44
ubottuPackage Jitsi does not exist in zesty23:44
bazhang!info jitsi23:44
ubottuPackage jitsi does not exist in zesty23:44
naccSkyLord12345: if not, might want to ask jitsi how to use their product, not us23:44
naccheh23:44
SkyLord12345heh)))23:44
nacc(yeah, I also didn't see it in rmadison)23:44
SkyLord12345jitsi.org - ts is analog skype23:44
Bashing-omnacc: git go ?23:45
bazhanganalog vid calls?23:45
SkyLord12345http://jitsi.org/downloads/23:45
SkyLord12345yeah23:45
bazhangSkyLord12345, then contact jitsi23:46
naccBashing-om: sorry?23:46
Bashing-omnacc: Regrets , just a play on words that - git to look at a package as opposed to rmadison .23:50
naccBashing-om: ah :)23:51
naccBashing-om: yeah, not quite there, since we don't import the world :)23:51
Bashing-omnacc: ( see I have been doing a bit of homework )23:51
naccBashing-om: good to hear! :)23:51

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