[02:47] <Oct2pus> ah alright
[02:47] <Oct2pus> thanks i already just use systemd but i saw a help comand for disabling apache.service
[03:03] <jamie_1> hey im having and interesting issue with my mouse and keyboard. for some odd reason it cant seem to do both inputs at once. it used to do it fine but now when i play my games i have to do one at a time or it cancels the other out
[03:03] <jamie_1> any ideas
[03:09] <jamie_1> nvm i might have gotten it
[03:40] <mrpanda> @echo off
[05:43] <Hanonim> Hi guys
[05:43] <Hanonim> My sysadmin installed ubuntu 17 and i can't find any vim package with py2 support, such as vim-nox-py2
[05:44] <Hanonim> can i do something about it ?
[05:45] <blabla> Hanonim: type "sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update"
[05:47] <blabla> !ping
[05:48] <Hanonim> blabla: already there, i can see vim-nox with py3 support but not vim-nox-py2 like on my 16.04 system
[06:03] <Hanonim> :(
[06:24] <qswz> what's the diff between "sudo systemctl start foo"  and "sudo service foo start" ?
[06:25] <nacc> qswz: systemctl is for systemd and service is for sysv
[06:25] <nacc> qswz: use systemctl for any ubuntu 16.04+
[06:25] <qswz> ah ok, but both work for mysql for example
[06:26] <qswz> to stop or start
[06:26] <nacc> Hanonim: they were explicitly dropped in 2:8.0.0095-1ubuntu1 in 17.04
[06:26] <nacc> Hanonim: see `apt changelog vim`
[06:26] <qswz> thanks, I'll read on that
[06:27] <nacc> Hanonim: and in debian, there is an entry for 2:7.4.2330-1 that says all packaged addons support 2 and 3
[06:28] <nacc> qswz: service is deprecated going forward
[06:28] <nacc> (i think)
[06:28] <qswz> thanks ok
[06:44] <pragomer> hi. where to put grub while an efi-installation?
[06:44] <pragomer>  to sda or to sda2 (which is called "Windows Boot Manager")
[07:22] <foul_owl> What's a good foss video chat with end to end encryption
[07:26] <hateball> foul_owl: xmpp jingle ?
[07:26] <hateball> foul_owl: or anything webrtc
[07:32] <foul_owl> Jingle looks like a spec to me
[07:33] <foul_owl> Is there an implementation of that spec?
[07:35] <thyriaen> Hey, i downloaded the ubuntu version of the AMD-GPU PRO and got following error: https://hastebin.com/emunejacic.pas
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:05] <Netham45> "W: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (9 vs 13).
[08:05] <Netham45> " I've got a weird setup, I'm sure it's my fault, anyone know where I can figure out what triggers these?
[08:05] <nrdb> hi :-)  having some trouble with file permissions... currently I am trying to get lighttpd to use a different log directory.. the directory "/root/wrs/log" has the permissions of "drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data root 4096 Aug 18 17:46 log" ... I have loged in as the user www-data ... when I try to create the file "touch /root/wrs/log/lighttpd.error.log" ... I the error "touch: cannot touch '/root/wrs/log/lighttpd.error.log': Permission denied" ...
[08:05] <nrdb>  why? the directory has write permissions for the log directory
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> Netham45: hastebin.com us the output of sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade plz?
[08:07] <Netham45> lotuspsychje, ubuntu repos are all I have, 0 packages need anything. Fully up to date.
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> Netham45: when do you that error exactly?
[08:07] <jamesnot> Hello I have problems with Xubuntu 16.04.2 installed on ASUS X554L. The brightness keys do not work and I tried acpi osi and acpi vendor workarounds, but to no avail.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> jamesnot: perhaps play with different kernels as a test, also a tail on syslog or dmesg could provide us usefull errors
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> Netham45: did you manually installed something or compile?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> nrdb: perhaps more specific channels could also help, like ##httpd ?
[08:14] <jamesnot> https://pastebin.com/eudY1iUa is my dmesg
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> jamesnot: few unsupported errors in acpi i can read
[08:37] <zetheroo> jbd2 is running non-stop on my Ubuntu 16.04 system (http://imgur.com/a/CEqnM) - how can I disable it?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: can this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/306626/jbd2-constantly-writing-to-disk
[08:42] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: I saw that but it didn't look like something which disabled the service but just kills the process
[08:42] <zetheroo> or?
[08:43] <zetheroo> I just tried 'pkill gvfsd-metadata' and jbd2 is still running
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: i think you need the remove also and perhaps a reboot after
[08:47] <zetheroo> ok - trying that and a reboot now
[08:50] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: nope .. it's still running
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: is it a classic HD or ssd?
[08:52] <zetheroo> hd
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: what brand?
[08:53] <zetheroo> hmm .. not sure
[08:53] <zetheroo> probably WD
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: perhaps do some tests on your hd, check syslog about IO errors? bad sectors n such
[08:54] <zetheroo> yep, both are WDC WD30EZRX-00D
[08:54] <zetheroo> but what does that all have to do with jbd2?
[08:54] <zetheroo> and disabling it ...
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: all threads looked up related jdb2 and ubuntu gives me disk writing issues
[08:57] <zetheroo> so jbd2 is/could be writing all the time due to disk write issues?
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: i think that might be the case
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: found an old bug aswell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: ubuntu version you are on?
[09:00] <zetheroo> 16.04
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: full up to date?
[09:01] <zetheroo> gah https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560/comments/110
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: .2 or .3?
[09:01] <zetheroo> .3
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: did you have this on .2?
[09:01] <zetheroo> I don't know
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: new install?
[09:02] <zetheroo> pretty recent .. like 1 month or so
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: okay, its worth a test to install .1 or .2 to see if you can reproduce
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: but i would deep investigate HD issues in your logs first
[09:03] <zetheroo> we kinda have monitoring (testing) running there ... so I can't just reformat and reinstall.
[09:03] <zetheroo> ok, logas
[09:03] <zetheroo> logs*
[09:03] <zetheroo> just updating to latest kernel and rebooting first
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> kk
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: run a few tests
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[09:10] <zetheroo> Seriously? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985454&p=12386709#post12386709
[09:15] <tomeaton17> Is there a way to change the text scaling for each monitor? Because when I connect a 1080p screen to my 4k laptop the text on the 1080p screen is huge and so is the mouse cursor
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  Display in the system settings ... you can un/check Mirror
[09:19] <tomeaton17> The displays aren't mirrored
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  xrandr to the rescue ... this is an old post, 2012 ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  arandr is a GUI for xrandr
[09:31] <tomeaton17> Hmm I couldn't find a way to change scaling in arandr
[09:33] <tomeaton17> I don't really understand the method in the link you gave
[09:35] <tomeaton17> And why does changing the scaling of laptop screen change scaling of external monitor
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  use xrandr in the terminal ... scroll down to <73> on the provided link ^^^
[09:36] <Gerritjan> can sombody tell m what to do with this error because i checked the path an its right: Project ERROR: Cannot run target compiler '/home/gerrit/opt/gcc-4.7-linaro-rpi-gnueabihf/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++'. Maybe you forgot to setup the environment?
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> Gerritjan  rpi has its own channel... there's also #ubuntu-arm
[09:37] <fub> Hi. I have a fresh ubuntu 16.04 installed and now trying to install wine. But it tells me I have "broken packages": http://dpaste.com/1CYHRDR
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> fub  type    sudo apt -f install
[09:38] <fub> MonkeyDust: no, there is nothing broken during installation.
[09:39] <fub> I figured it out, I needed to add i386 as an arch
[09:39] <fub> thanks anyway
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> fub  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> oh, ok
[09:40] <tomeaton17> MonkeyDust: My resolutions are not the same. I don't understand where he gets the 320 or most of the numbers
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  it may be hardware related, type of video card etc
[09:45] <tomeaton17> ok thanks for the help
[09:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:55] <growp> ubuntu is simply debian with a shit ui
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> growp  not here
[09:56] <growp> it's true
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> growp  if you don't like it, don't use it
[09:56] <growp> if ubuntu was not debian it would respond to ubuntu packages not debian packages
[09:56] <growp> ubuntu = shit version of debian
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> growp  thank you for sharing your opinion with the channel, now stop
[09:57] <zetheroo> #troll
[09:57] <growp> can i share my opinion on affirmative action?
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> growp  not here
[09:57] <growp> and how repealing jim crow laws have destroyed society?
[09:58] <growp> gee thanks democrats
[09:58] <zetheroo> anyone know how to disable jbd2 in Ubuntu 16.04?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> growp  this is the help channel, not place for sharing opinions
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> not the place*
[10:08] <Peanut> Hi, on Ubuntu 17.04, is there a way to remove the bluetooth indicator, given that my machine does not have bluetooth?
[10:10] <EriC^^> Peanut: settings > bluetooth > at the bottom show in menu bar
[10:12] <Peanut> EriC^^: Thanks, I completely overlooked that because every other option in there is greyed out ("No Bluetooth adapters found").
[10:12] <EriC^^> Peanut: no problem
[10:14] <Peanut> EriC^^: Just relogged, works great. Is there also a way to make it not start all the bluetooth related programs (bluetoothd, indicator-bluetooth-service, blueman-applet) ?
[10:15] <Peanut> Wud.. withoud doing it, the bluetooth indicator came back *lol*
[10:16] <Peanut> The setting is still 'off'.
[10:18] <EriC^^> Peanut: maybe you can mask the services or uncheck them from "startup applications" in the dash
[10:18] <EriC^^> !masking
[10:18] <EriC^^> Peanut: in the bottom is the show in menubar checked?
[10:19] <Peanut> EriC^^: Not checked anymore, since you told me about that option. Seems to have no effect.
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> Peanut  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25338964/
[10:22] <Peanut> MonkeyDust: Interesting.. but, how do you disable them after making them visible?
[10:24] <EriC^^> Peanut: try "sudo systemctl mask name-of-service"
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Peanut  i'm not using ubuntu myself atm... 'startup application' is the closest thing that comes to mind
[10:31] <duzi> I am reading the book "Linux, The Complete Reference". In this book, I read that the OS first loads the program in memory and then its intructions are executed. I was just curious to know what's the way to check that the program is loaded in memory in Ubuntu?
[10:31] <duzi> I'm using xenial
[10:31] <duzi> and I'm just a newbie :P
[10:32] <hateball> duzi: ps
[10:35] <duzi> hateball: I ran "man ps" and it says ps displays information about the selection of active processes. What does this mean?
[10:35] <mrottenkolber> Hi, so I have a (systemd) user unit, and it restarted this morning at 4 am, I want to know why it exited (status), and see its journal from before it restarted.
[10:36] <hateball> duzi: a process is a program that is loaded
[10:36] <hateball> duzi: "ps ux" to show what your user is running
[10:36] <mrottenkolber> I am starting to get the feeling that systemd wiped all traces of the previous run, so how do I persist these things in the future?
[10:37] <hateball> duzi: not really sure what you're after, perhaps #linux can answer better
[10:37] <duzi> duzi: That I know, but what is this "selection of active processes". Does it select or what? I can't understand.
[10:38] <hateball> duzi: selects based on the options passed to it, "ux" being one, or perhaps "aux" to show all users
[10:38] <duzi> oops I tagged myself :P
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> duzi  as hateball says: better ask in ##linux
[10:39] <hateball> or if this is ##homework :p
[10:39] <duzi> sure, thanks :)
[10:44] <Mis-anthrope> ps shows you the processes that are active in that session
[10:45] <Mis-anthrope> everything sans zombies
[11:20] <leeyaa> hi
[11:20] <leeyaa> does anyone know why would my network devices (from single two port card) would have different names? https://bpaste.net/show/3148c113ce67
[11:20] <leeyaa> default ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[11:21] <leeyaa> i hate systemd
[11:22] <leeyaa> oh thats some udev nonsense
[11:22] <brainwash> it's not nonsense
[11:23] <leeyaa> brainwash: so why different names considering it is same device
[11:23] <brainwash> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[11:23] <leeyaa> thats one card
[11:23] <nils_> odd names indeed
[11:23] <akik> leeyaa: you can set it back as it was before with net.ifnames=0
[11:23] <nils_> or you can define names you like in interfaces(5)
[11:23] <akik> leeyaa: add that kernel parameter
[11:23] <leeyaa> akik: i know but my other nodes use names such as enp1s0 etc
[11:23] <leeyaa> so i want to match it
[11:24] <nils_> same hardware?
[11:24] <akik> the names that come with usb adapters are comical
[11:24] <nils_> akik, lol yeah
[11:24] <leeyaa> nils_: yeah e1000e
[11:24] <leeyaa> thats why i find it weird
[11:24] <nils_> leeyaa, talking about the mainboard
[11:25] <leeyaa> nils_: no, mb is different
[11:25] <leeyaa> but network card is the same
[11:25] <nils_> yeah the kernel will get the names from EFI or BIOS or something so this isn't really as reliable as one would like.
[11:25] <leeyaa> nils_: yes, not exactly predictable
[11:26] <leeyaa> is it possible to name it from en1 to enp1s0 ?
[11:27] <leeyaa> ah, whatever, ill just disable this crap
[11:27] <leeyaa> and go with eth0 and eth1
[11:29] <leeyaa> too bad i have to change a few other nodes as well
[11:29] <Gargoyle> Indeed. Do not embrace the change, get the pitchforks out instead!
[11:29] <nils_> I think you can map it in interfaces based on mac address
[11:29] <Gargoyle> I suppose the real question is, why do you care?
[11:29] <leeyaa> Gargoyle: consistency and ease of management
[11:30] <Gargoyle> what are you doing to the interface by it's name?
[11:30] <leeyaa> i dont like having 5 servers with enwhatever and 10 servers with eth1
[11:30] <nils_> Gargoyle, well having one port on the card named en01 and the other one named enp2s0 isn't particularly intuitive
[11:30] <leeyaa> i have scripts and stuff that run across the board
[11:31] <leeyaa> and yes, also having enp2s0 with eno1 is just bad
[11:31] <akik> leeyaa: you can rename them with udev rules
[11:31] <Gargoyle> Well, surly the best option would be to give them logical names and make your script even more cross platform / robust?
[11:31] <nils_> compared to things like /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG[..] or something like that.
[11:31] <leeyaa> akik: i might just disable it until it really is predictable
[11:31] <nils_> Gargoyle, yes
[11:34] <nils_> use mapping in interfaces in conjunction with get-mac-address.sh or something. I think I had that with one of those dongles but that particular piece of hardware was stolen some time ago :/
[11:36] <leeyaa> nils_: will do once i have the time to invest in doing it. right now i just wanted to make it consistent and provision a few servers
[11:37] <nils_> caveat emptor, here be dragons etc...
[11:38] <nils_> there is a good reason for this renaming business, back in the day sometimes the interfaces got assigned in different order
[11:38] <leeyaa> ;p
[11:38] <nils_> I've seen things that would make grown linux sysadmins tremble in fear!
[11:47] <leeyaa> well for ~5 years ive never seen some of my interface to get wrong name assigned. granted i use just ubuntu and centos
[11:56] <sud0x3> Im trying to build a snap package using the snapcraft snap but im getting apt errors.
[11:57] <Gerritjan> tarls
[12:02] <Linkandzelda> would anyone be able to help me? ive got a server running ubuntu 16.04, and suddenly it cant resolve any domains. everything was working until about 4am today. im able to ping ip addresses but pinging domains or doing nslookups simply fails. ive tried restarting it, does not fix the issue. any ideas?
[12:06] <nils_> Linkandzelda, can you resolve using alternative nameservers? e.g.: host ubuntu.com 8.8.8.8
[12:06] <Linkandzelda> nils_: no, and i tried that too
[12:07] <nils_> Linkandzelda, any changes to netfilter / iptables?
[12:07] <Linkandzelda> my dns is set to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, and im able to ping those ips
[12:07] <Linkandzelda> no edits on the system
[12:07] <nils_> Linkandzelda, perhaps a firewall in between? My next approach would be to try and see with tcpdump what happens with the DNS packets
[12:09] <Linkandzelda> nils_: would you have an idea of how to check that?
[12:09] <nils_> Linkandzelda, and just to verify, this doesn't resolve either: host ubuntu.com 208.78.70.27
[12:10] <Linkandzelda> nils_: no, and i should mention it just sits there
[12:10] <nils_> Linkandzelda, sadly I tend to get the syntax wrong when it comes to tcpdump filters, but it should be a quick google away.
[12:11] <Linkandzelda> ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[12:11] <nils_> which means it's waiting for a reply that's not coming :(
[12:11] <Linkandzelda> this is a VM of 2, and the 2nd box is not suffering from this
[12:13] <cloudbud> Im trying to install a custom package but I am getting an error : dpkg: error processing package market-oauth-go (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  market-oauth-go E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:14] <rory> is that a package you made yourself cloudbud ?
[12:14] <leftyfb> cloudbud: that is an unsupported package. You'll need to seek support from it's developer.
[12:14] <cloudbud> yes rory
[12:14] <rory> It's failing because the installation script that dpkg is running, is itsself failing
[12:14] <rory> hopefully there is some output from that script further up
[12:15] <cloudbud> rory : is that mine issue of developer will have a look at it ?
[12:15] <rory> depends how you made the package
[12:15] <rory> do you still ave the steps you followed, that you could share here? probably in a pste http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <cloudbud> rory : I am running just a ansible sript
[12:16] <rory> Does the ansible script work by itsself?
[12:16] <cloudbud> rory : pasting
[12:16] <rory> dpkg is very much "garbage in; garbage out"
[12:18] <cloudbud> rory : https://pastebin.com/raw/xMFmFP4T
[12:18] <cloudbud> im bot able to install it using apt-get actually
[12:20] <cloudbud> rory : any help ?
[12:20] <rory> I don't know ansible very well but some step called "IP" is failing and that's why the overall process is bombing out
[12:20] <cloudbud> IP is the ip address actually rory
[12:20] <logithack> i'm on Ubuntu 16.04. whats the best way to execute a shell script every time i'm shutting down my system?
[12:21] <cloudbud> IP address of the server i have removed IP here
[12:21] <rory> Does the ansible script work if you run it yourself? not building a package
[12:21] <zetheroo> I want to replace all text in a certain file with a few lines of text - how can I do this from the terminal?
[12:21] <logithack> zetheroo: again, look into "sed" :D
[12:21] <zetheroo> LOL :D
[12:21] <rory> zetheroo: you want to clear all content in the file? and then replace it with new content?
[12:21] <zetheroo> yes
[12:22] <zetheroo> rory
[12:22] <rory> : > filename.txt ; echo "Line `\nLine 2\nLine 3\netc" > filename.txt
[12:22] <zetheroo> I find a lot of examples of sed being used to find a string and replace it ... but not for what I want to do
[12:22] <rory> actually you dont even need to do the first one
[12:22] <rory> just echo "Line `\nLine 2\nLine 3\netc" > filename.txt
[12:23] <zetheroo> hmm ok
[12:23] <rory> zetheroo: if you do "echo something > filename.txt" it will replace the contents of filename.txt with the output of the echo command
[12:23] <rory> zetheroo: later you can append more things to it using >> instead of >
[12:23] <zetheroo> well I just wasn't sure how to add the text on seperate lines
[12:24] <rory> logithack: see here https://askubuntu.com/a/416301/62969
[12:24] <logithack> zetheroo: you could also write a little python script.
[12:24] <rory> massive overkill since we already have bash...
[12:24] <rory> zetheroo: either use separate echo commands, like this: echo line 1 > filename.txt; echo line 2 >> filename.txt; echo line 3 >> filename.txt
[12:24] <logithack> rory: i've just found another thread that describes the same thing. thank you!
[12:24] <rory> zetheroo: or use \n (newline character) within quotes
[12:24] <zetheroo> ok
[12:27] <mices> i have no utf8 system wide this is my locales output https://gist.github.com/mices/42067665410b9542ec453619a48c3585
[12:32] <Takiito> Hello
[12:34] <Takiito> I'm looking for a way to have libgfortran compiled with -fPIC. Is there a way to do this with ubuntu means (without compiling it myself)?
[12:35] <geirha> mices: and how do you determine that there's no utf-8 ?
[12:36] <adac> How can I see if a service is enabled to be started on boot?
[12:36] <adac> ubuntu 16.04
[12:37] <ioria> Takiito, libgfortran IS a  shared lib
[12:38] <Takiito> ioria: yes, but the object files libgfortran.a consists of are not compiled with -fPIC
[12:39] <ioria> Takiito, do you need a static lib ?
[12:39] <Takiito> Yes, I do
[12:39] <ioria> Takiito, there is no .a by default on ubuntu
[12:41] <ioria> Takiito, if really you need a static i guess you need to compile it yourself
[12:42] <Takiito> Ok,
[12:49] <ioria> Takiito, unless you use the -dev pkg (idk if realiable on other platforms)
[12:51] <Takiito> I had tried with the dev package
[12:52] <ioria> Takiito, i se
[12:52] <ioria> *e
[12:52] <sYnfo> Is it possible to tell apt to keep retrying when another process is using apt right now?
[12:52] <mvn123> hello there!
[12:52] <mvn123> I am pretty new to Ubuntu.
[12:52] <mvn123> I am having a problem trying to get gvim to work.
[12:52] <mvn123> It gives an error when starting (from launcher it just blinks) and from terminal I get the following error:
[12:52] <mvn123> gvim: error while loading shared libraries: liblua5.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:52] <mvn123> I do have the file in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
[12:53] <mvn123> can anybody help?
[12:54] <brainwash> the package "liblua5.2-0" is installed?
[12:54] <mvn123> how can I check that?
[12:54] <brainwash> apt-cache policy liblua5.2-0
[12:55] <mvn123> ok I did apt search:
[12:55] <mvn123> iblua5.2-0/zesty,now 5.2.4-1.1build1 amd64 [installed]
[12:55] <mvn123>   Shared library for the Lua interpreter version 5.2
[12:55] <mvn123> liblua5.2-0-dbg/zesty 5.2.4-1.1build1 amd64
[12:55] <mvn123>   Debug symbols for the Lua shared library interpreter
[12:55] <mvn123> iblua5.2-0/zesty,now 5.2.4-1.1build1 amd64 [installed]
[12:55] <mvn123>   Shared library for the Lua interpreter version 5.2
[12:55] <ioria> mvn123, how did you install that pkg ?
[12:56] <ioria> !info gvim
[12:56] <ioria> !info vim-gnome
[12:56] <mvn123> oh i though you meant the lua package
[12:56] <mvn123> sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[12:56] <donofrio> so I updated to firefox 55 and now I see errors from chromium (it's not even installed) the error is "[Parent 195] WARNING: pipe error: Invalid argument: file /build/firefox-uuVfLG/firefox-55.0.1+build2/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 709"
[12:58] <brainwash> donofrio: it's probably code from the chromium project which is used in firefox
[12:59] <mvn123> executing apt-get install vim-gnome doesn't seem to help
[12:59] <mvn123> can I force apt-get to install all dependencies?
[12:59] <brainwash> mvn123: try to reinstall liblua5.2-0
[13:00] <mvn123> apt-get install liblua5.2-0 ?
[13:00] <mices> geirha: wherever a utf8 character is supposed to display i get the little boxes with hex numbers in them
[13:00] <brainwash> apt-get install --reinstall liblua5.2-0
[13:00] <brainwash> I think
[13:01] <mvn123> hey that worked! :-)
[13:01] <brainwash> great
[13:01] <geirha> mices: where? in a terminal emulator window? in a text editor? firefox?
[13:01] <mvn123> any idea how this could happen?
[13:02] <brainwash> the library file somehow got removed
[13:02] <mvn123> apt clean?
[13:02] <mices> geirha: systemwide anywhere
[13:02] <brainwash> no
[13:02] <mvn123> i did install a lot of packages today
[13:02] <mvn123> before it was working (gvim)
[13:02] <brainwash> manually deleting files probably
[13:03] <mvn123> hmm ok
[13:03] <brainwash> otherwise the file should not have been touched
[13:03] <logithack> id like to run a script on shutdown. i've created the script in /etc/init.d/ and created a symlink like this: "sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/sync-python-dir.sh /etc/rc0.d/K01sync-python-dir.sh" however, when i shutdown and boot again, it seems like the script hasnt been run because the folders are not synced. any ideas?
[13:03] <geirha> mices: Hm. Have you changed fonts/themes? maybe you have a font that is missing a lot of unicode symbols
[13:03] <mvn123> ok thanks alot for the help!
[13:03] <brainwash> donofrio: please install the latest updates, firefox 55.0.2 should be available now
[13:04] <mices> geirha: i dunno
[13:05] <mices> geirha: i mean no
[13:08] <gabrielc> logithack: check how run script at shutdown or reboot (or both) using systemd
[13:09] <gabrielc> logithack: maybe an script as systemd service
[13:14] <harrydg> wiiii.... OK, lets go: If i run "dns intensive" tasks, like apt-get update, i have a 1 in 2 chance that my systemd-resolved goes bananas and takes up 100% (of 1 core) CPU
[13:14] <harrydg> also on network it starts generating ENORMOUS amounts of traffic
[13:15] <harrydg> i have tried to set dnsstublistener to NO
[13:15] <harrydg> but that "breaks" dns queries
[13:15] <harrydg> (i use much virtualbox/stuff... so i have dnsmasq runnign as well
[13:18] <harrydg> ow... and interwebz searches don't reveal anything useful
[13:19] <harrydg> 20 years ago, it was very simple... you just updated resolv.conf by using dhclient
[13:19] <harrydg> now it's all... magic and multiple things doing the same... and i don't "get" it all anymore. I don't get the logic
[13:19] <harrydg> or manual resolv.conf even :)
[13:20] <harrydg> use nscd for DNS caching
[13:20] <harrydg> anyone that can tell me where to start troubleshooting?
[13:21] <harrydg> ow, and maybe if someone can help, msg me so i can read it when i reconnect to my screen session and dont' risk missing golden tips
[13:21] <harrydg> don't
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> harrydg  spare the enter key, it's getting a headache
[13:21] <brainwash> maybe bug 1670959
[13:23] <harrydg> will try that... (How did i NOT get to this page using google search :()
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> harrydg  it's good sign, to know that google *doesnt* know everything
[13:32] <harrydg> MonkeyDust: so very true :). Anyway, i DO have 127.0.0.1 as global dns server in my config (Not for wlan0 though). that probably causes the loop and the obvious issues lateron
[13:33] <harrydg> the question now being: as i use dnsmasq, it's normal that i have this as resolver imho. dnsmasq should resolve, and send it to the "external" dns servers. Not/never back to resolved
[13:34] <wasp_> Moinsen
[13:41] <harrydg> OK, got it... clearly it's related to the dnsmasq that adds itself as global resolver. I stopped dnsmasq and all is OK. WHat was stated in the post, that dnsmasq adds 127.0.0.1 in the "tail", it does it now, through a script that's run at startup of dnsmasq
[13:53] <JaVaSan> Hi there, does anyone know how to move the title/panel bar (the one on the top that shows calendar, battery, etc.) from top to bottom? I've moved the launcher to bottom and I would like to move the title bar as well. (Ubuntu 17.04 - zesty)
[13:59] <oerheks> JaVaSan, maybe BottomPanel works.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/632090/how-to-move-top-panel-to-bottom-in-ubuntu-15-04-with-gnome-3-16-2
[14:00] <JaVaSan> oerheks: thanks, I'll take a look right now.
[14:02] <oerheks> JaVaSan, oh wait, you *have*  unity, i guess that gnome thingy won' t work then :-(
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> JaVaSan  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25339769/
[14:05] <JaVaSan> oerheks: it is Unity =/
[14:08] <JaVaSan> MonkeyDust: the commands you shared move unity launcher from left to bottom (vice-versa), not the top bar. I did that already. I'm trying to move the bar that shows the calendar, battery life, etc.
[14:08] <craigbass76> I can't for the life of me ssh into a box. openssh-server is installed, but I'm not seeing anything in the auth.log when I attempt. I'm just getting connection refused on the client end. Desktop trying to log into a laptop -- both on the same LAN.
[14:10] <ioria> craigbass76, firewall ?
[14:12] <JaVaSan> It seems Unity does not allow me to do what I want: https://askubuntu.com/questions/155319/how-can-i-move-the-panel-from-the-top-to-the-bottom?noredirect=1&lq=1
[14:13] <JaVaSan> well, "you can't always get what you want" =) =/
[14:13] <ioria> JaVaSan, you can use tint2
[14:14] <ioria> JaVaSan, but it's more like a launcher
[14:14] <oerheks> craigbass76, on the server: sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp && sudo ufw logging on && sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw status # this is the complete setup
[14:14] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
[14:14] <pavlos> craigbass76: nc <server> 22 should respond with SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.2
[14:14] <sud0x3> Are the ubuntu repos having issues?
[14:15] <sud0x3> im trying to use snapcore/snapcraft docker image to build a snap packages but on first run it fails to fetch archives and quits
[14:17] <JaVaSan> ioria: I'll take a look in alternatives some other time, thanks.
[14:17] <ioria> JaVaSan, ok
[14:19] <Emmarof> all my file types display as plain white in terminal after a system format
[14:19] <Emmarof> How can i fix this
[14:22] <sud0x3> Emmarof: Just file types, plain white? Try explaining the problem more accurately
[14:22] <craigbass76> oerheks, weird, I've never had to do that before. Wonder if my kid installed a firewall...
[14:23] <Emmarof> sud0x3: yes...my folders used to display blue in the terminal
[14:23] <g3nocide> Is it standard practice to install the landscape-client on an on-premise landscape server so it can manage its own packages and such?
[14:24] <pavlos> Emmarof: ls --color=auto
[14:24] <sud0x3> anyone in here actualy work on ubuntu
[14:25] <craigbass76> sud0x3, You mena on the dev team, or use it at work?
[14:25] <ioria> Emmarof, you probably nuked .bashrc
[14:25] <sud0x3> Emmarof: must be you bash settings that have changed
[14:26] <sud0x3> craigbass76: The dev team or contributers
[14:26] <sud0x3> I think the docker image provided on dockerhub needs updating for snapcraft
[14:26] <sud0x3> https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft
[14:28] <sud0x3> following https://snapcraft.io/docs/build-snaps/build-on-lxd-docker will not work for me unless i manually build the docker image from the git repo
[14:29] <sud0x3> Probably  should of said anyone working on snap packaging
[14:30] <g3nocide> Anyone know if it is standard practice to install the landscape-client on an on-premise landscape server so you can use landscape to manage it as well as your other servers?
[14:30] <craigbass76> oerheks, Weird... I had no idea there was a firewall involved. I've never had one running since I quit Fedora back at FC4.
[14:31] <Emmarof> ioria: how do i fix it?
[14:31] <Emmarof> ioria: how do i fix it?
[14:31] <ioria> Emmarof,  paste your .bashrc
[14:31] <ioria> Emmarof,  cat  .bashrc | pastebinit
[14:31] <Emmarof> It got deleted so i just recreated it
[14:32] <Emmarof> It got deleted so i just recreated it
[14:33] <ioria> Emmarof,  you should have a block with this header 'enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases'
[14:34] <Emmarof> How can I get the entire content of the .bashrc
[14:34] <Emmarof> ?
[14:34] <pavlos> Emmarof: you can copy from the system-wide /etc/bash.bashrc
[14:34] <donofrio> brainwash, why would firefox have any use/dependency on chromium?
[14:35] <ioria> pavlos, idk if that has colors enabled
[14:35] <EriC^^> Emmarof: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/
[14:35] <EriC^^> that's the default .bashrc for users
[14:40] <Emmarof> It works fine now EriC
[14:40] <Emmarof> Thank you very much
[14:41] <EriC^^> Emmarof: no problem
[14:42] <Emmarof> EriC^^: How do I know all these things you ?
[14:43] <EriC^^> Emmarof: some with practice some with reading, the more you use ubuntu you'll get better and know more
[14:43] <FoxLove> Hiya! I have this service, which won't run. How can I debug WHY it doesn't start? Because, the error is kinda uninformative and I couldn't find anything in /var/log
[14:43] <EriC^^> !tldp | Emmarof
[14:47] <oerheks> craigbass76, if ufw/gufw is installed, i guess that is normal
[14:47] <supercom32> Does Ubuntu LTS 16.04.3 work with the Linux kernel 4.12? Or is it too old for that?
[14:48] <oerheks> supercom32, no, even HWE is @ 4.10
[14:48] <oerheks> next 17.10 will have 4.12/4.13 with updates, if i read it right
[14:48] <ioria> supercom32, maybe if you tell why you need it, you might help
[14:49] <ioria> *we
[14:49] <supercom32> The reason I ask is because I'm getting these strange "hang on idle" states with a Ryzen CPU. So I assume maybe a newer kernel might resolve Ryzen issues.
[14:49] <supercom32> If I disable C-States in my CPU, no issues. But I'd still like to know why it doesn't work.
[14:50] <oerheks> too new hardware..
[14:50] <supercom32> I figured as much. I suspected that I just need to wait for new software.
[14:52] <oerheks> you might want to try 17.10 beta, with 4.12
[14:52] <supercom32> @oerheks, Ah I see.
[15:10] <ezio> i have the following server {     listen 80; server_name git.plexuselearning.com; rewrite ^(.*)$  https://$host$1 permanent; ... but it's not redirecting
[15:12] <ezio> k fixed it
[16:06] <loganaden> hoi
[16:07] <FoxLove> Ooooook. No answer still. Another question: I'm connected to a server via SSH and RDP (xrdp+mate) at the same time. But, while SSH is command line heaven, terminal in mate doesn't help much with autocompletion. Plus it gives me an error, then I try to bash -x smth.
[16:31] <pavlos> FoxLove: when you xrdp, do you start the full DE or just a terminal?
[16:31] <yoginth> what is the command for remove junk of uninstalled files?
[16:32] <EriC^^> yoginth: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[16:32] <yoginth> thanks
[16:32] <EriC^^> np
[16:33] <yoginth> any slack for ubuntu?
[16:34] <Menzador> yoginth: Slack is available as a tarball you can compile yourself
[16:34] <Menzador> Check their website
[16:34] <FoxLove> pavlos, full DE
[16:35] <pavlos> FoxLove: of what I read, TAB key is not mapped properly hence autocomplete does not work. Which DE, xfce4-session?
[16:36] <FoxLove> pavlos, mate-session
[16:50] <brainwash> donofrio: that's a question for the firefox people over on irc.mozilla.org
[16:56] <FoxLove> pavlos, thing is, autocompletion works /partially/. It works for one thing but doesn't for the other. "Sud apti" autocomples in SSH, but only "sud" part autocopletes in mate. "ser pos stat" perfectly autocompletes in SSH, but mate terminal doesn't autocomplete it at all.
[16:59] <pavlos> FoxLove: I thought autocomplete (AC) works per word, sud becomes sudo but sud apt does not AC for me. I have to AC sud and then tabtab for apti to become aptitude.
[16:59] <oerheks> FoxLove, i think that is by design, ssh without autocomplete
[17:00] <demahum> What is the best place to ask question about secure boot?
[17:01] <EriC^^> demahum: here's ok, what's your question?
[17:01] <FoxLove> oerheks, it's the other way around. ssh WITH autocomplete.
[17:02] <FoxLove> pavlos, yes, it works per word. I meant that I can tab to complete almost anything
[17:02] <FoxLove> pavlos, ser - tab - pos - tab - stat - tab - enter
[17:02] <oerheks> FoxLove, oh, commands do, but files on the host not?
[17:04] <demahum> EriC^^: My intention is to understand how "secure" it is. I know it prevents my hardware booting not signed boot loaders, but I am looking for understanding real cases. 1. Secure boot does not protect me at all from malware on OS level. I.e. if malicious software asks for root access, it will get it and can do anything it wants, secure boot has nothing to do with it, right'
[17:04] <demahum> right?*
[17:04] <FoxLove> oerheks, 'tabbing' through paths works. At least, it works with nano. Like nano /etc/xrdp/startwm.sh Havan't tried anything else, though
[17:05] <pavlos> FoxLove: the example you gave does not work for me, ser tab becomes serv, another tab shows servertool service
[17:06] <EriC^^> demahum: right
[17:06] <EriC^^> demahum: on the os level stuff it won't help with malicious code execution and stuff like that
[17:07] <demahum> Yeah, it only prevents booting.
[17:07] <demahum> EriC^^: Thanks.
[17:07] <EriC^^> demahum: sure
[17:07] <demahum> I'll research a bit more and then ask if there is something moire. :)
[17:07] <demahum> more*
[17:07] <EriC^^> alright :)
[17:07] <tomreyn> demahum: more precisely it's not the hardware that loads the boot loader, it's the uefi firmware, which is software, which can be (and often is) buggy.
[17:07] <demahum> tomreyn: Thanks. :)
[17:08] <FoxLove> pavlos, ser turns into service for me. Thing is, in mate se, ser, serv, seriv or eveb servic won't turn into service.
[17:09] <FoxLove> pavlos, plus, terminal shows you commands which could work. Like "apt -> tab" will offer you a number of various commands
[17:12] <emi71> hello. I've a problem with my Toshiba laptop, with Ubuntu 16.04. My wireless card , Realtek RTL8723AE, don't work totally. I've read a lot of forum articles, but I'cant solve. Other ubuntu versions have the same problem. someone can help me please?
[17:18] <EriC^^> emi71: what's wrong with it? (i dont know much btw i can try though)
[17:21] <EriC^^> emi71: did you try some of the stuff here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/763797/how-to-install-rtl8723ae-driver-on-ubuntu-16-04
[17:23] <oerheks> wb emi71, sorry to hear the building your driver does not solve
[17:26] <oerheks> i hope it will be better with the 4.12 kernel,  much improvements on wireless
[17:34] <FoxLove> pavlos, hey, thanks for trying. I'll read and google more tommorow. Cya
[17:36] <pavlos> FoxLove: k
[17:50] <pranita> hi
[17:50] <pranita> I am unable to launch instance with ceph as backend volume
[17:50] <pranita> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1711603
[17:51] <pranita> can someone pls help?
[17:55] <donofrio> brainwash, thanks I'm there now ;)
[17:56] <brainwash> pranita: I'd suggest that you ask in #openstack
[17:57] <JonelethIrenicus> is swap partition required for suspend
[17:57] <brainwash> not for suspend, but for hibernate
[17:57] <pranita> Ok.. Thanks
[18:11] <trism>  /quit
[18:31] <wewlad> hello, how to install an older version of a package?
[18:31] <wewlad> I need xpra 2.0.2
[18:34] <abed> hi
[18:34] <abed> i mustve pressed a shortcut but i am asked to login via command line
[18:34] <abed> how do i go back to the GUI
[18:35] <rockitude> ctrl+alt+f7
[18:42] <[n0mad]> on my system ctrl+alt+F2 takes me back to the desktop and ctrl+alt+F7 takes me to a locked destktop. never bothered to find out why
[18:43] <badet0s> wewlad: first your need to install firefox, then you have to enter the address: https://www.google.com
[18:43] <badet0s> s/your/you
[18:44] <wewlad> badet0s: can I buy this joke from you? I'm gonna make millions on it.
[18:44] <badet0s> you can buy it for billions
[18:44] <tgm4883> badet0s: we don't tell people to google it here
[18:45] <badet0s> what do we tell people then
[18:45] <tgm4883> badet0s: we help people
[18:46] <tgm4883> badet0s: for that particular issue, I would have tried to steer them away from doing that as it's unsupported
[18:48] <badet0s> how is it not helpful to tell him to google 'install old package ubuntu' on google and he will find his answer
[18:48] <tgm4883> !google | badet0s
[18:49] <badet0s> then I would suggest reading 'man apt-get'
[18:50] <ioria> http://xpra.org/dists/zesty/main/binary-amd64/
[18:50] <badet0s> if he is unable to open console/terminal/tty, the solution is: reference 'man apt-get': "A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
[18:50] <badet0s> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of the package to select.A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
[18:50] <badet0s> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of the package to select.A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
[18:51] <badet0s> wops.. I have to google dont paste more than 4 times
[18:51] <leftyfb> badet0s: according to your logic, every question asked in here should be answered with "google it"
[18:52] <badet0s> atleast they should try first. it doesnt seem that he did, since its one of the first results on google
[18:52] <tgm4883> !rtfm | badet0s
[18:52] <badet0s> or he could try 'man'.
[18:53] <tgm4883> I'm surprised there isn't a rtfm on ubottu
[18:53] <ioria> if it's not in the repos , apt-get is useless
[18:54] <tgm4883> ioria: +1
[18:54] <ioria> lol
[18:54] <badet0s> then he should go compile it then
[18:54] <ioria> nope
[18:54] <ioria> maybe there is a .deb pkg
[18:54] <beaver> apt purge doesn't work (for example) ioria
[18:55] <tgm4883> badet0s: while IMO that's still the wrong answer, it's honestly better than 'google it'
[18:55] <ioria> beaver, sure
[18:55] <beaver> :)
[18:56] <leftyfb> badet0s: the answer is sudo apt install xpra=2.02 (which won't work in xenial, but is the correct answer". It's not that hard to give answers like that.
[18:56] <beaver> ah, yes, it work ioria sorry
[18:56] <ioria> lol
[18:56] <beaver> ^^
[18:57] <beaver> autoremove ioria
[18:57] <beaver> autoremove it does not work
[18:57] <badet0s> I dont think its very helpful
[18:57] <badet0s> help to help yourself
[18:58] <leftyfb> badet0s: then you shouldn't bother "helping"
[18:58] <tgm4883> badet0s: you're in the beginner channel, please remember that
[18:58] <leftyfb> since your answer is always going to be the same
[18:58] <beaver> same for build-dep ioria
[19:00] <krytarik> tgm4883: Oh, there is #ubuntu-advanced? :P
[19:01] <tgm4883> krytarik: there's many other channels for support, this one happens to be the general one that beginners get sent to
[19:01] <ioria> krytarik, idt you get the poiint
[19:02] <ioria> krytarik, ubuntu is meant for people
[19:02] <krytarik> Point being, there is no advanced one..
[19:02] <tgm4883> krytarik: your point seems irrelevant
[19:02] <ioria> krytarik, not for rat compilers
[19:27] <Adylas> Hello, trying to boot 16.04 or 17.04. I'm getting error (repeated) : "Invalid stdin" then "can't open /dev/sr0". Then getting drop to initramfs prompt. How can I point the system to the proper root ?
[19:28] <dedze> Hello, could someone help me find the instruction on how to install steam on ubuntu 16.04? I've been searching for a while but I'm not sure what to do
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> !steam
[19:28] <csharp> Adylas: booting from CD? /dev/sr0 is the first CD-ROM drive
[19:29] <Adylas> csharp, USB drive. Not that the machine is a bit special. Its a Ryzen system and there is one NVME and one HDD in there.
[19:30] <dedze> Thank you MonkeyDust
[19:30] <yeats> Adylas: the /dev/sr0 message is probably not relevant then - any other error messages?
[19:31] <Adylas> Humm, "invalid stdin"
[19:31] <Adylas> Invalid ARgument
[19:31] <Adylas> Excuse me
[19:31] <yeats> did you check the m5sum/shasums of the ISO image?
[19:32] <ioria> Adylas, how did you do the stick ?
[19:32] <Adylas> I tried 3 iso. Also that key is known working (hardware)
[19:32] <Adylas> dd
[19:32] <Adylas> As I said, the machine is a bit special. Its a AMD Ryzen system, has 1 NVME drive and one HDD and one Cdrom
[19:32] <tomreyn> Adylas: first of all, update firmware if you haven't recently. then set the HDD controller to AHCI, not RAID mode.
[19:33] <Adylas> tomaw, What the HDD controller have todo with Live USB ?
[19:33] <tomreyn> nothing :)
[19:33] <Adylas> I think the live usb is unable to pivot to the root
[19:33] <tomreyn> but the drives still get probed, i don't know how you set up booting
[19:34] <tomreyn> you dont want RAId mode, though, instlalation will fail then
[19:34] <tomreyn> also consider enabling bios compatibility mode if you cant get uefi booting to work
[19:36] <donofrio> brainwash, they do not know and said I should file a bug after i downloaded 55.0.2 and it did the same ipc error....how could this have made it into the updates if this error happens?
[19:37] <AndrewGazelka> Don't think I am using the right terms, but how can I make a bin executeable into an application?  This is the bin folder of the app https://gyazo.com/b0e5eed2e125cba4abaeca78bf5989d1
[19:37] <AndrewGazelka> and I can run it fine terminal-side
[19:37] <AndrewGazelka> but I want to be able to access it within my applications
[19:37] <AndrewGazelka> without opening the terminal
[19:39] <[n0mad]> Maybe this would help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:40] <ioria> Adylas, remove quiet splash (and maybe replace with break debug) you might know more
[19:41] <brainwash> donofrio: it's probably a very specific bug
[19:42] <donofrio> brainwash, what gets me is the last version was working, I do and apt-get upgrade and it stops working ;(
[19:43] <brainwash> donofrio: it appears that there were (and still are) quite few bugs in the new release. we got two point releases already
[19:44] <brainwash> 55.0 -> 55.0.1 -> 55.0.2
[19:44] <donofrio> brainwash, how do I apt-get myself to 55.0?
[19:44] <brainwash> not sure if we can blame the ubuntu packaging
[19:45] <brainwash> I think 55.0 was never available
[19:45] <brainwash> ubuntu devs waited until 55.0.1 was ready
[19:45] <oerheks> brainwash, +1
[19:45] <donofrio> brainwash, dunno if blaming is the right word.....how do I rollback my firefox?
[19:45] <oerheks> today 55.0.2 went out
[19:45] <oerheks> roll back firefox.. not?
[19:47] <donofrio> apt-geting 55.0.2._build1 right now
[19:47] <oerheks> ubuntu tend to remove old firefox versions, which is good
[19:47] <brainwash> so, you haven't tested with 55.0.2 yet?
[19:48] <brainwash> I told you to do so
[19:48] <donofrio> I did but from mozilla.org
[19:48] <brainwash> same error?
[19:48] <oerheks> uh uh ..
[19:49] <oerheks> why not use the official packages? ( don't answer that )
[19:50] <nicomachus> donofrio: why do you want an older version?
[19:51] <donofrio> now it says "[Parent 2821] WARNING: pipe error: Invalid argument: file /build/firefox-Zj9gRO/firefox-55.0.2+build1/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 709"
[19:52] <donofrio> nicomachus, cause it worked and this one is not ;(
[19:52] <brainwash> donofrio: did you try in Safe Mode already?
[19:52] <donofrio> I'll try....
[19:53] <nicomachus> donofrio: maybe I missed it, but why is this one not working?
[19:54] <brainwash> nicomachus: due to a bug
[19:54] <donofrio> nicomachus, cause this one doesn't render webpages, says it needs something from chromium when it's not ever been installed on this system, it says "[Parent 2821] WARNING: pipe error: Invalid argument: file /build/firefox-Zj9gRO/firefox-55.0.2+build1/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 709"
[19:55] <brainwash> after testing in Safe Mode, try with disabled e10s
[19:56] <donofrio> brainwash, how to do safe mode again?
[19:56] <kostkon> donofrio, firefox -safe-mode
[19:57] <brainwash> but really, that's what the firefox people over on their own IRC network should have told you
[19:58] <donofrio> brainwash, I tried safe mode no rendering and same error
[20:00] <kostkon> donofrio, hardware specs?
[20:00] <brainwash> not sure how to further assist you with this problem. best to actually file a bug report
[20:00] <monk12> hey all, i have a virtualbox Ubuntu VM where i had to delete and move the swap partition to give extra space to my / and /boot and /home partitions. But alas now my VM doesn't start... thought this was more an Ubuntu question than VirtualBox... I'd like to figure out what i need to update to get it working again. grub? fstab?
[20:00] <monk12> i get a "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[20:00] <donofrio> brainwash, how do I install 54 version?
[20:01] <oerheks> monk12, yeah, you need to reinstal grub with the correct values of blkid
[20:01] <brainwash> donofrio: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/54.0.1/
[20:02] <brainwash> it could be that the deb package of firefox 54 is still in your local package cache
[20:02] <monk12> I believe I ran blkid, got the UUID from its output, and updated the linux swap partition's in the fstab file then ran 'sudo update-grub'
[20:03] <oerheks> monk12, that should work then.. i never changed partitions in a vm, i just make a new one
[20:03] <brainwash> donofrio: in /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:04] <monk12> oerheks: hmmm so do i have any other options (that i can try in grub when i boot by clicking 'c' or boot up with a tool on an image/iso)
[20:04] <oerheks> one better clean out ~/,mozilla and ~/cache, and reinstall ff 55.02 than getting an old ff 54
[20:05] <brainwash> oerheks: donofrio tested with safe mode already
[20:05] <brainwash> cleaning directories won't help much
[20:05] <brainwash> filing a bug report will
[20:06] <oerheks> getting ff 55.02 from mozilla is surely not the way too..
[20:06] <donofrio> oerheks, that is what #firefox folks told me on moznet
[20:07] <brainwash> it was the right thing to do
[20:07] <brainwash> the issue could have been a caused by the ubuntu packaging
[20:08] <kostkon> donofrio, well since you are still at it you could try the nightly as well
[20:08] <minimec> donofrio: You could give that firefox 55 tar from mozilla a try. You don't need to install it. Just untar the tar file and launch the firefox file in the folder. Maybe make a backup of the .mozilla folder.
[20:08] <kostkon> donofrio, that is ff57
[20:10] <kostkon> donofrio, it's safe to use ff57, it's definitely not safe to revert back and use ff54
[20:11] <monk12> oerheks: Whats the best way to run blkid on a box that doesn't boot? (be4 it would give me that error but stilll after many minutes eventually boot... i got into the system and ran blkid and updated grub, but now doesn't boot at all so *maybe* i updated the wrong thing in fstab)
[20:12] <oerheks> monk12,  i don't kno, i told you i never mess with partitions in a vm, create a new one?
[20:13] <oerheks> i blame the vm hypervisor.
[20:14] <oerheks> tip: choose dynamic partitions, and lack of space is yesterday
[20:14] <akik> monk12: boot the vm with a ubuntu iso keeping the disk in the config
[20:18] <monk12> akik: k, ill give that a shot.
[20:24] <monk12> akik: so I had a ubuntu 16.04 iso and attached that as my 'cd drive' in the vm and booted from my VM to it. Choose 'Try Ubuntu'. how can I view my actual hard drive in a Terminal here... Do i need to mount it?
[20:24] <akik> monk12: sudo fdisk -l
[20:25] <akik> monk12: if it's gpt partitioned, then sudo parted -l
[20:25] <akik> fdisk doesn't support gpt
[20:25] <EriC^^> monk12: you usually cant view your actual hard drive in the vm, unless you mean the vm hard drive?
[20:27] <monk12> akik: I can see my /dev/sda# hd's in the 'Try Ubuntu' Terminal when i ran the fdisk list command. I can't though for example do something like so: vi /dev/sda5/etc/fstab.  Should I mount it at this point?
[20:27] <akik> monk12: yes, just create a mount point like /tmp/sda5 and mount it there
[20:31] <JonelethIrenicus> i was thinking about installing plain linux on a nexus 7 so I can use it as a display
[20:31] <JonelethIrenicus> maybe with some kind of fast vnc server or something
[20:31] <JonelethIrenicus> any recommendations?
[20:31] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: maru os maybe
[20:32] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: more thinking about the nexus 7 being the display and not the computer
[20:33] <JonelethIrenicus> so it would run the vnc client
[20:33] <JonelethIrenicus> or something
[20:33] <JonelethIrenicus> i really want to keep latency to a minimum, but it isn't for like movies or anything that requires higher FPS
[20:33] <JonelethIrenicus> not sure if you can do VNC over USB
[20:34] <JonelethIrenicus> any ideas?
[20:34] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: it's not a ubuntu question
[20:34] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: how do you figure?
[20:34] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: do you have ubuntu installed on the nexus 7?
[20:34] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: that was the plan
[20:35] <JonelethIrenicus> but this is a planning stage of my project
[20:35] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: so, no?
[20:35] <JonelethIrenicus> so that is why I ask questions
[20:35] <akik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[20:36] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: that isn't really related to my question
[20:36] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: general linux questions go to #linux
[20:37] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: if you dont know just say so
[20:37] <JonelethIrenicus> its ok
[20:37] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: these are the rules of the land
[20:37] <donofrio> minimec, the runtime firefox from mozilla.org did same as repo version - they changed something from 54 to 55 that relies on chromium things
[20:37] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: ok so you dont know
[20:38] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: it's not a question of my knowledge, but this discussion belongs somewhere else :)
[20:38] <minimec> donofrio: Ok. Do you use pepperflash? And if yes, do you use the version from the repos or did you install pepperflash manually?
[20:39] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: it really doesn't you can ask questions about how to do something on ubuntu in this channel
[20:39] <akik> JonelethIrenicus: sure, follow the guide i linked to you
[20:39] <donofrio> minimec, I do not (on these builds) use pepperflash because that is chromium and I do not have that installed only firefox
[20:39] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: you want to use it as a secondary display?
[20:40] <JonelethIrenicus> akik: that is unrelated to what i was discussing
[20:40] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: yeah
[20:40] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: basically
[20:41] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: I guess VNC then, or depending on what you plan on using it for maybe something like Synergy
[20:41] <minimec> donofrio: There are standalone packages for firefox and a firefox plugin in the repos in the repository. Yet thee packages should not be the problem, as I use them myself.
[20:43] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: ok i guess that is the easiest method
[20:43] <minimec> donofrio: Did you try to start a clean fesh profile? Could be that some 'legacy' extension causes problems.
[20:43] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: tgm4883 akik thanks
[20:43] <tgm4883> donofrio: do you have steps to reproduce the issue?
[20:44] <donofrio> tgm4883, yep
[20:45] <tgm4883> donofrio: and they are....?
[20:45] <tgm4883> donofrio: I mean the next step here is to see if anyone else can reproduce your issue
[20:46] <donofrio> tgm4883, https://apaste.info/7KUJ then update and you'll see the version 54.0.1 removed and 55.0.2 installed and then you cannot talk to ipc though broken chromium calls....
[20:47] <donofrio> I'm doing the bugzilla on the left machine while I chat ya...
[20:48] <tgm4883> donofrio: wait, this is all in the windows subsystem for linux?
[20:48] <donofrio> Yep
[20:48] <tgm4883> donofrio: IIRC, what you're doing isn't supported, I'm not surprised it's broken
[20:49] <kostkon> donofrio, something important you forgot to mention
[20:49] <damien^-> Hello, what command shall i use to wipe a usb memory, then recreate it with a new filesystem?
[20:49] <donofrio> what suprised me was to find out that firefox is using chromium bits in it....
[20:49] <damien^-> Its write protected.
[20:50] <tgm4883> donofrio: BTW, you should lead with information that makes your system vastly different than most
[20:52] <donofrio> tgm4883, here is my setup https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm54HRrGo_Wa3BUs1pw - https://apaste.info/hhbf
[20:53] <tgm4883> donofrio: that's fine, I don't think graphical applications are supported in the windows subsystem for linux though
[20:53] <donofrio> tgm4883, I used to use firefox daily on tmy boxes
[20:53] <tgm4883> donofrio: and I think you're going to have a difficult time finding anyone willing to help on that
[20:53] <akik> tgm4883: they're are not supported but they work
[20:54] <tgm4883> akik: apparently not ;)
[20:54] <tgm4883> donofrio: you used to and now it's broken. Precisely why something is unsupported (since it's likely completely untested)
[20:56] <blackal3x> is there a support channel in which i can talk to other programmers?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> blackal3x  #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:59] <donofrio> tgm4883, missing my point, firefox should not have reliance on another browser if you ask me
[20:59] <donofrio> 54 didn't care
[21:00] <tgm4883> donofrio: I didn't miss that point, I think you're correct that it shouldn't. I'm just pointing out that you're asking for help in the wrong place as there isn't much we can do about that on our side.
[21:00] <oerheks> yeah, we told you in #ubuntu-discuss that those entries are pretty normal.. for years?
[21:01] <minimec> donofrio: Maybe the integration of WebExtensions needs some chromium bits, as these new extensions should be compatible with chrome(ium)/firefox.
[21:02] <brainwash> the first thing that I've told donofrio was that firefox does use code from 3rd parties
[21:02] <brainwash> but he just ignores this fact
[21:02] <minimec> donofrio: See... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Chrome_incompatibilities
[21:03] <tgm4883> In any case, this doesn't appear to be a Ubuntu issue and there's not much we can do for it so it's off topic for this channel
[21:04] <oerheks>  #ubuntu-on-windows is your place to be
[21:07] <blackal3x> i posted in app devel but im curious if someone ccan answer here.  what is a good program that would make designing GTK windows a bit easier than having to do them programmatically? (like how Visual Studio has a form and you drag/drop components onto it)
[21:09] <oerheks> !info glade
[21:09] <monk12> akik: thanks again for idea of repairing via an ISO; i actually used Boot-Repair and am repairing via that ISO.
[21:10] <oerheks> glede tutorials https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Glade/Tutorials
[21:10] <donofrio> oerheks, nothing happens in that channel ever......just sayin
[21:11] <oerheks> donofrio, don't blame us.
[21:11] <oerheks> "Microsoft doesn't support graphical programs on WSL."
[21:11] <oerheks> end of discussion.
[21:12] <donofrio> oerheks, just doesn't make sense to send someone to a dead channel.....
[21:13] <tgm4883> donofrio: Have you tried installed the missing components?
[21:13] <donofrio> tgm4883, it's not missing
[21:13] <donofrio> it's internal component of ff55
[21:13] <brainwash> where is your bug report?
[21:14] <donofrio> it's the fact that ff is using chromium bits and when crhomium bit's do not work, it breaks ff55
[21:14] <tgm4883> donofrio: sorry you're right, I didn't remember the error correctly
[21:14] <donofrio> doing that now
[21:14] <tgm4883> donofrio: yea this needs to be a mozilla bug report
[21:14] <brainwash> we cannot help you
[21:14] <donofrio> on ff bugzilla right or both mozilla and ubunt bugs?
[21:14] <brainwash> so, let's end this discussion
[21:14] <donofrio> ok
[21:14] <tgm4883> just mozill
[21:14] <brainwash> a
[21:14] <brainwash> :)
[21:15] <monk12> woo hoo BootRepair worked.
[21:15] <donofrio> would be neat if we have part of the topic askinga poll of users if they use wsl and want support in almost 1k users channel or keel them in a quite room with on 12 lurks
[21:16] <tgm4883> donofrio: no, we don't do polls here. In any case, what you're doing is super niche and unsupported
[21:17] <donofrio> tgm4883, till next year when all the developers hear this awesomeness, just sayin ;)  (thank you all you good folks for tolerating me and my weirdness)
[21:17] <akik> #ubuntu would have more clients but freenode had a snafu :)
[21:18] <tgm4883> donofrio: you're running graphical applications in WSL, which is unsupported
[21:19] <tgm4883> donofrio: even if a ton of users were using WSL, you'd be in the minority with your use case
[21:19] <brainwash> !ot
[21:19] <brainwash> it's not hard to understand
[21:20] <akik> donofrio: you might have better support here https://www.reddit.com/r/bashonubuntuonwindows/
[21:20] <donofrio> yah I've not yet dipped my toes into the posting in reddit just gleening thigs from reddit so far
[21:33] <donofrio> submitted bugid 1391804
[21:33] <donofrio> on mozilla.org
[21:57] <shadow98> hey guys i have my wlan0 interface set to manual in /etc/network/interfaces as I have an LTE modem I want to use the majority of the time.  WIth it set to manual how do i get that interface back online.  I am able to see it with ifconfig and I tried restarting networking and network manager and still am not able to select a wifi name in network manager up near the time.
[21:58] <hehehe> hi
[21:58] <shadow98> hi
[21:58] <hehehe> wifi connected yet does not work ping dig nothing
[21:58] <hehehe> restatrted networking same
[21:58] <hehehe> works on the phone
[21:59] <hehehe> *restarted
[22:00] <hehehe> how to debug it
[22:00] <tomreyn> shadow98: either you manage NICs via /etc/netowork/interfaces or you use network manager. You don't combine the two for a single NIC. if configured in /etc/netowrk/interfaces you bring it up using ifup wlan0
[22:01] <tomreyn> shadow98: but i'd actually recommend using netwokr-manager on a desktop computer
[22:01] <tomreyn> !wireless | hehehe
[22:02] <tomreyn> hehehe: start by identifying the chipset and driver
[22:02] <tomreyn> then check whether its firmware is loaded and current
[22:03] <tomreyn> ping against an ip address, first that of your gateway, then something on the internet, e.g. 8.8.8.8 (google public dns)
[22:03] <tomreyn> only then check whether doomain names work, too.
[22:04] <tomreyn> 'ip a' to show ip addresses of all NICs
[22:04] <tomreyn> including their gateways
[22:05] <tomreyn> or 'ip r' for the gateway
[22:05] <tomreyn> "default via ..." -> ... is your gateway
[22:06] <shadow98> tomreyn: with network manager how do i set wlan0 to boot disabled?
[22:07] <tomreyn> shadow98: ion connection properties, you edit its properties and select it to not auto-connect
[22:07] <tomreyn> *set, not select
[22:07] <hehehe> so its dns resolution
[22:08] <shadow98> tomreyn: ha thanks man.  Sometimes I just make things so difficult :)
[22:08] <tomreyn> welcome
[22:09] <tomreyn> hehehe: because you can ping both gateway and 8.8.8.8, but not ubuntu.com?
[22:10] <quarters> does anyone have any advice on how to view what programs certain keybindings are bound to?  Like I used to be able to split a window on terminator using ctrl-alt-e, but now it brings up some random emoji choices window, whether terminator is open or not
[22:11] <akik> heh
[22:12] <hehehe> yep
[22:13] <hehehe> i think itcoeld be invalid hostnamd3x
[22:13] <hehehe> fixing
[22:15] <hehehe> hostname fine still yet to work
[22:19] <hehehe> errror resolving pool 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[22:19] <hehehe> temp failure in name resolution
[22:20] <Briv_Dev> Hey y'all, I'm having trouble getting a current verison of nodejs on my machine. When I `apt-get install nodejs`, it install version 6.11.1. I need version 8.x. How can I get it?
[22:20] <Briv_Dev> When I do `apt-cache madison nodejs`, it only lists 6.11.1 and older versions
[22:20] <Briv_Dev> I've recently apt-get update, no dice
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> !info nodejs
[22:23] <Briv_Dev> wow that's extremely old
[22:23] <Briv_Dev> how can I get the current versions
[22:24] <Briv_Dev> here is my sources.list file https://gist.github.com/4a0a257420755b372fc5ecf8d1de5e84
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> Briv_Dev  if you want something from outside the repos, you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but that's not supported here
[22:25] <Briv_Dev> ah, hmm
[22:26] <Briv_Dev> any idea how I can find the ppa I need?
[22:26] <Briv_Dev> is there a way to search ppas for packages?
[22:34] <hehehe> seems like dsn server down
[22:38] <pavlos> Briv_Dev: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[22:43] <Briv_Dev> thanks pavlos
[22:48] <hehehe> lol
[22:48] <shadow98> i set my user to not asking for login how do i get the screen at boot to not even show up.
[22:48] <hehehe> something is up
[22:53] <hehehe> Re: NTP Daemon Stuck in Resolver Jail When Run from Connman ...
[22:53] <hehehe> ntpd[4295]: error resolving pool 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Temporary failure in name resolution (-3)
[22:53] <hehehe> whats that error about?
[22:53] <hehehe> dns resolver is shaky here
[22:53] <hehehe> even after new dns server added
[22:56] <aloo_shu> shadow98 I believe your question can be rephrased into : how can I configure the boot process in order to boot direectly into a login shell, without starting a logi/display manager
[22:56] <aloo_shu> *login
[22:58] <jeppech> Hi, I've got a bash script, that I'd like to execute when i push <Super><Shift>4. I've tried registering it, as a custom shortcut under the keyboard settings, but it's not getting registered, and neither does Compiz Config. Anyone know, what I'm doing wrong?
[22:59] <jeppech> I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 btw
[23:03] <aloo_shu> shadow98 afaik it could be done through grub - the right boot parameter. Or by giving sytremd the right config . Until somebody can help you with more detail, you could spend some time by typing 'info grub' or 'info  systemd' in a terminal. 'info info' to learn how info works. That's for study, if nobody helps, just ask again every 10-20 min
[23:08] <shadow98> ok thanks I am using ubuntu mate btw
[23:10] <aloo_shu> shodow98 so you do have an idea how to login without a display/login manager, right? How would you do it?
[23:10] <shadow98> i don't know yet
[23:11] <aloo_shu> shadow98 then I do not know exactly where you want to get, maybe I missed a few lines?
[23:19] <shadow98> I have to figure out which login manager im using and then edit the config first
[23:20] <shadow98> aloo_shu: looks like it is lightdm
[23:20] <glaucom> Good night people.
[23:21] <glaucom> I have a question about video cards, could anyone help me?
[23:22] <glaucom> I have a notebook, which has a 740m geforce video card, I wonder if it is used for HDMI and VGA output or if it is used for the notebook screen?
[23:22] <aloo_shu> shadow98 most of the things you can edit in lightdm's config, you can probably edit in a graphical way from settings -> session and login or similar
[23:22] <oerheks> glaucom, both.
[23:23] <glaucom> https://pastebin.com/nWFguFEd
[23:23] <glaucom> result of lspci
[23:23] <aloo_shu> shadow98 if you do not want the login screen to show at all, you will have to configure things in a way that lighdm is not invoked at all
[23:24] <glaucom> It's because I have not been able to run the nvidia driver in debian at all, ubuntu already runs perfectly. And just wanted to confirm that the correct driver is actually loaded.
[23:24] <aloo_shu> shadow98 but for that, you need to understand what a display manager *doesw* ,because if you skip it, *you* will have to know how to do that by hand
[23:25] <glaucom> I ended up studying a little bit about xorg, but every time I'm more confused. Lol
[23:26] <oerheks> glaucom, you can switch with the nvidia tool, see last pic in http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/switch-intel-nvidia-graphics-ubuntu-16-04/
[23:26] <Bashing-om> glaucom: pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - to see the hybrid graphic's set . Then we match a nvidia driver .
[23:26] <aloo_shu> shadow98 at least if you want a graphical desktop environment
[23:28] <glaucom> http://imgur.com/a/CmvFy
[23:29] <glaucom> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/tfj0L03v
[23:34] <Bashing-om> glaucom: The nividia card " GK107M [GeForce GT 740M] " will take the late nvidia drivr . Presntly you are using the mouveau driver . ' sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' To have the system install the nvidia driver .
[23:34] <Bashing-om> nouveau*
[23:35] <glaucom> Bashing-om: nouveau driver is fluid...
[23:36] <glaucom> only freezinh varios tabs on firefox
[23:37] <Bashing-om> glaucom: Sorry, I do not comprehend the goal you are seeking .
[23:42] <doubtful> hi
[23:43] <doubtful> If possible could someone give me feedback on small open-source code I tried to write. Code: https://github.com/abhigenie92/unattended_upgrades_repos
[23:44] <aloo_shu> shadow98 bad connection without bouncer, I am back, but may have missed a line
[23:44] <shadow98> aloo_shu: This is handled by display-manager... Disable on systemd and you're done.
[23:45] <shadow98> aloo_shu: https://askubuntu.com/questions/139014/how-to-disable-lightdm look at last post.  I still want the desktop environment to start on a reboot
[23:55] <aloo_shu> shadow98 , reconnect again, but: if disabling lightdm worked that way, just put an 'enable' instead of the 'disable', and you should be fine. you should pay close attention to which user is performing these commands. Unnecessarily doing things as root can lead to scenarios where the system cannot set some settings for the user session, so whatever you do, be sure you know how to undo it
[23:57] <shadow98> aloo_shu: well i screwed up already
[23:57] <aloo_shu> shadow98 another simple way of logging in one time without display manager, is choosing 'Advanced options for...' in the Grub boot menu, and boot into single user/rescue mode
[23:57] <shadow98> aloo_shu: To configure the Desktop to auto-login (Ubuntu MATE 14.04) add an autologin-user line specifying your user name to the /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf file. For example: [SeatDefaults] greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter autologin-user=srackham Conf files in the /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ directory are cascaded into the lightdm login manager in alpha order.  <--- i
[23:57] <shadow98> tried this instead.
[23:58] <aloo_shu> shadow98 so if you screwed up, what I just posted could help :)
[23:58] <shadow98> aloo_shu: now my system is stuck at boot screen and i can't break out to a command prompt to remove the config
[23:59] <shadow98> aloo_shu: i don't see a grub menu for some reason i don't have it this is on a raspberry pi with ubuntu mate