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| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 02:44 | |
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| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 02:44 | |
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| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 02:44 | |
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| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #1712: SUCCESS in 1 min 11 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/1712/ | 09:19 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #1712: SUCCESS in 1 min 13 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/1712/ | 09:19 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #1712: SUCCESS in 4 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/1712/ | 09:22 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-02 build #1712: SUCCESS in 4 min 57 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-02/1712/ | 09:23 | |
| BluesKaj_ | Hiyas all | 11:16 |
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| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_krita build #263: FAILURE in 6.6 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_krita/263/ | 14:13 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 14:16 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_krita build #264: FIXED in 10 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_krita/264/ | 14:16 | |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: Could you pick up https://phabricator.kde.org/T6822 ? | 14:37 |
| clivejo | also, Dragon Player being dropped off the iso in favour of VLC? | 14:37 |
| clivejo | actually Amaorok too | 14:38 |
| clivejo | that slide needs looked at IMO | 14:38 |
| clivejo | anyone about? | 14:47 |
| clivejo | BBB in ten minutes? | 14:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> ok | 14:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> It's our anniversary today so my wife and i are going out for breakfast. I will be on later today. | 14:54 |
| clivejo | oh Happy Anniversary :) | 14:55 |
| NateGraham | Hello again | 14:59 |
| clivejo | howdy | 14:59 |
| NateGraham | the mtp package was definitely not installed by default in the zesty image | 15:00 |
| NateGraham | let me check on the artful image I just downloaded | 15:00 |
| acheronuk | what mtp package? | 15:02 |
| NateGraham | mtpfs | 15:02 |
| NateGraham | https://phabricator.kde.org/T5117 | 15:02 |
| alleehol | Hi, installing right now artful daily: Installer slide show claim that krunner can be started with Alt-F1 But it's Alt-F2 not F1 | 15:04 |
| clivejo | Alt F1 is kickoff menu? | 15:04 |
| NateGraham | clivejo: there's still a problem: http://i.imgur.com/OknGanY.png | 15:04 |
| alleehol | clivejo: yes | 15:04 |
| clivejo | NateGraham: thats on artful ? | 15:06 |
| NateGraham | correct | 15:06 |
| clivejo | weird | 15:06 |
| clivejo | I get | 15:06 |
| clivejo | mtpfs is already the newest version (1.1-5). | 15:06 |
| NateGraham | so I installed artful-desktop-amd64.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 15:07 |
| alleehol | clivejo: fresh artful install (10 min ago) and I also don't have mtpfs. | 15:08 |
| alleehol | clivejo: apt policy mtpfs ? | 15:08 |
| NateGraham | now it seems that it's not even packaged anymore | 15:08 |
| NateGraham | Installed: (none) | 15:09 |
| NateGraham | Candidate (none) | 15:09 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs | 15:10 |
| clivejo | not in artful | 15:10 |
| NateGraham | well there ya go :) | 15:10 |
| clivejo | !info mtpfs unstable | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Package mtpfs does not exist in unstable | 15:10 |
| clivejo | http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html | 15:13 |
| clivejo | does installing go-mtpfs work? | 15:15 |
| NateGraham | yes, go-mtpfs is there (not installed by default, though) | 15:15 |
| clivejo | but does it allow dolphin to access Android files? | 15:16 |
| NateGraham | I don't actually have an Android phone, so I can't test that, but I do have an iPhone | 15:16 |
| alleehol | go-mtpfs is either rock solid or not changed for 2 years ;-) | 15:16 |
| NateGraham | though I think that uses PTP, not MTP, right | 15:16 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: on a releted issue, you saw? https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.artful-kio-mtp-removal/+merge/328886 | 15:18 |
| clivejo | I didn't | 15:19 |
| clivejo | I installed go-mtpfs and removed mtpfs and it appears to work | 15:20 |
| NateGraham | awesome | 15:21 |
| clivejo | can someone else verify that? | 15:21 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: Ill remove that then and install go-mtpfs instead | 15:23 |
| clivejo | https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs | 15:30 |
| clivejo | 2 years old :/ | 15:30 |
| clivejo | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.artful/changes | 15:37 |
| clivejo | so changed it to go-mtpfs | 15:40 |
| clivejo | NateGraham: I've updated the seed to pull in go-mtpfs now | 15:53 |
| acheronuk | flash crashed on BBB | 15:53 |
| clivejo | so need to test it tomorrow | 15:53 |
| clivejo | Ill just talk to myself then! | 15:54 |
| NateGraham | hi clivejo, sorry, I was away for a moment | 16:01 |
| clivejo | no problem | 16:01 |
| clivejo | have you ever been on Big Blue Button? | 16:01 |
| NateGraham | my son wants to go play legos together :) | 16:01 |
| NateGraham | no, I don't know what that is | 16:02 |
| * NateGraham looks it up on wikipedia | 16:02 | |
| clivejo | kubuntu.blindsidenetworks.net | 16:02 |
| NateGraham | cool | 16:02 |
| NateGraham | I gotta go now though | 16:03 |
| NateGraham | be back later | 16:03 |
| clivejo | use your IRC name for username and password in "welcome" | 16:03 |
| clivejo | ah ok | 16:03 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #1713: SUCCESS in 1 min 6 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/1713/ | 17:04 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #1713: SUCCESS in 1 min 11 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/1713/ | 17:04 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #1713: SUCCESS in 4 min 16 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/1713/ | 17:07 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-02 build #1713: SUCCESS in 4 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-02/1713/ | 17:08 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> @clivejo, That slide is not there anymore | 18:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Nathan spotted it in last nights spin | 18:09 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It's not there in the next update tho | 18:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> That slide is gone | 18:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> are you sure you pushed it | 18:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Yea it's in proposed | 18:13 |
| acheronuk | migrated to release 6hrs ago, so changes should be in tomorows iso | 18:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> try pushing it again, just a bit harder this time | 18:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> git push +++ | 18:19 |
| acheronuk | bzr push --jfdi | 18:20 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kreport build #210: FAILURE in 3.9 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kreport/210/ | 18:24 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kproperty build #201: FAILURE in 3.8 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kproperty/201/ | 18:26 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdb build #209: FAILURE in 3.9 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdb/209/ | 18:27 | |
| * clivejo shakes head | 18:27 | |
| clivejo | hi soee_ | 18:28 |
| soee_ | hiho clivejo | 18:32 |
| clivejo | how are things with you? | 18:33 |
| soee_ | im all wet, rainy day today :) | 18:33 |
| clivejo | you don't have to go stand in it you know! :P | 18:34 |
| clivejo | hi gsilvapt | 18:34 |
| gsilvapt | weird, my bnc freaked out | 18:35 |
| soee_ | i was playing soccer match, no choice to stay or not in rain ;) | 18:35 |
| gsilvapt | hey, clivejo | 18:35 |
| clivejo | ah, thats a good excuse :) | 18:35 |
| soee_ | :P | 18:36 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 18:40 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kreport build #211: FIXED in 16 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kreport/211/ | 18:40 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 18:41 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kproperty build #202: FIXED in 10 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kproperty/202/ | 18:41 | |
| clivejo | acheronuk: are you using KCI? | 18:43 |
| acheronuk | not actively, but fixing merges has triggered stuff. can kill the jobs if you want | 18:45 |
| clivejo | was gonna update jenkins | 18:45 |
| clivejo | if I can remember how! | 18:45 |
| clivejo | I need a new brain | 18:45 |
| ahoneybun | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Y-eujlUpM | 18:46 |
| clivejo | too many bad block errors | 18:46 |
| clivejo | WTF | 18:47 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kdb build #77: ABORTED in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kdb/77/ | 18:47 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kproperty build #31: ABORTED in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kproperty/31/ | 18:47 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdb build #193: ABORTED in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdb/193/ | 18:47 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_kreport build #56: ABORTED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_kreport/56/ | 18:47 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kreport build #149: ABORTED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kreport/149/ | 18:47 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_kreport build #43: ABORTED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_kreport/43/ | 18:48 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kreport build #78: ABORTED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kreport/78/ | 18:48 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kreport build #158: ABORTED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kreport/158/ | 18:48 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kdb build #97: ABORTED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kdb/97/ | 18:48 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> you broke it? | 18:53 |
| clivejo | pond always gives me a heart attack, it takes so long to come back! | 18:53 |
| gsilvapt | bloody hell, this news installation is killing me | 18:55 |
| gsilvapt | argh | 18:55 |
| clivejo | killing you? | 18:55 |
| gsilvapt | yes | 18:55 |
| clivejo | why?! | 18:55 |
| gsilvapt | Constant crashes, struggles with UEFI and Legacy | 18:55 |
| * DarinMiller 17.10 brand new installation here is the best in a long time. Even the printer configured without a fight. | 19:00 | |
| clivejo | hi DarinMiller | 19:03 |
| clivejo | have a nice anniversary breakfast? | 19:03 |
| clivejo | does anyone have the resources to test all the recently ported apps on a base Ubuntu system? | 19:04 |
| clivejo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/ktouch/+bug/1688233 | 19:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1688233 in ktouch (Ubuntu Zesty) "ktouch missing dependencies under gnome-ubuntu 17.04" [High,In progress] | 19:09 |
| DarinMiller | hi clivejo | 19:13 |
| * clivejo waves | 19:13 | |
| DarinMiller | breakfast was good, but not as good as we typically have at home (but my did not make it so she was happy) | 19:14 |
| clivejo | doing anything else today? | 19:15 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: I can test the ported apps... what other apps aside from ktouch? | 19:17 |
| clivejo | need to compile a list of recently ported ones | 19:17 |
| acheronuk | https://community.kde.org/Applications/17.04_Release_Notes#Tarballs_that_were_based_on_kdelibs4_and_are_now_KF5_based | 19:18 |
| DarinMiller | would it be the latests apps found here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git | 19:18 |
| acheronuk | the bigger job is for 17.08 | 19:18 |
| clivejo | maybe start a phab task? | 19:19 |
| acheronuk | https://community.kde.org/Applications/17.08_Release_Notes#Tarballs_that_were_based_on_kdelibs4_and_are_now_KF5_based | 19:19 |
| acheronuk | 17.08 will need KCI for a bit | 19:19 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: I was going to, but as usual, got sidetracked | 19:20 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: you restart KCI? | 19:20 |
| clivejo | yeah | 19:20 |
| clivejo | updating plugins | 19:20 |
| clivejo | so slow! | 19:20 |
| clivejo | think thats me done! | 19:21 |
| * acheronuk waits for kexi to sync | 19:24 | |
| clivejo | from Debian | 19:25 |
| clivejo | ? | 19:25 |
| acheronuk | yes | 19:25 |
| clivejo | oh so that might get in Artful | 19:25 |
| acheronuk | uploaded to unsable, so should auto sync soon | 19:25 |
| acheronuk | !info kexi unstable | 19:26 |
| ubottu | kexi (source: calligra (1:2.9.11+dfsg-4)): integrated database environment for the Calligra Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.9.11+dfsg-4+b2 (unstable), package size 1792 kB, installed size 7566 kB | 19:26 |
| acheronuk | bot is still behind | 19:26 |
| acheronuk | https://packages.debian.org/sid/kexi | 19:26 |
| clivejo | anyone know if there is VAG-COM software for Linux? | 19:32 |
| clivejo | welcome back NateGraham | 19:35 |
| NateGraham | thanks | 19:35 |
| clivejo | finished playing lego? | 19:35 |
| NateGraham | yep | 19:35 |
| NateGraham | we made a wild west fort and locked up the bad guys :) | 19:36 |
| clivejo | just were they should be! | 19:36 |
| clivejo | NateGraham: where are you from? | 19:41 |
| NateGraham | the USA | 19:43 |
| clivejo | what part? | 19:43 |
| NateGraham | hard question :) I grew up in Illinois, moved around a ton over the years, and am now living in New Mexico | 19:43 |
| clivejo | that sounds hot! | 19:43 |
| NateGraham | yeah, it does get rather hot in the summer; as high as 40.5c | 19:44 |
| NateGraham | but we get snow in the winter, too | 19:44 |
| clivejo | holy cow | 19:44 |
| NateGraham | last year it went up to 42c | 19:45 |
| clivejo | that's too hot! | 19:46 |
| NateGraham | yeah, it becomes dangerous to go outside | 19:46 |
| NateGraham | but that only lasts for about a week, max | 19:47 |
| clivejo | how long have you been a kubuntu user? | 19:47 |
| NateGraham | about 2 months | 19:47 |
| clivejo | oh, what did you use before that? | 19:47 |
| NateGraham | I converted from openSUSE TW with Plasma for 2 months, and before that GNOME on Fedora for 7 months, and before that macOS for 23 years | 19:48 |
| clivejo | wow | 19:48 |
| NateGraham | I used to work for Apple, and when I left, I decided to join the FOSS world | 19:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> that's long term Mac use! | 19:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> ohhhhhh.... | 19:49 |
| clivejo | so what are your first impressions? | 19:49 |
| NateGraham | So far KDE Plasma beats the pants off of anything else I've used when it comes to usability and user friendliness | 19:49 |
| NateGraham | which is the perspective I'm coming from | 19:49 |
| NateGraham | I've always appreciated how macOS (for the most part) manages to ffer a satisfying power user experience while also being simple and approachable enough for the other 99% of people | 19:50 |
| NateGraham | I think Plasma does a good job of this as well | 19:50 |
| NateGraham | could be better, of course, and that's why I'm contributing :) | 19:50 |
| clivejo | what is lollipop? | 19:51 |
| NateGraham | A music player made for GNOME 3 | 19:52 |
| NateGraham | it is magnificent | 19:52 |
| NateGraham | too bad it's written in GTK, though | 19:52 |
| NateGraham | https://github.com/gnumdk/lollypop | 19:52 |
| clivejo | have you been following babe or elisa? | 19:52 |
| NateGraham | no, I haven't | 19:52 |
| NateGraham | here is my list of required features: | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Column browser that goes Genre > Artist > Album | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Shows album art everywhere | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Shows only non-redundant info, rather than lazily presenting a table view | 19:53 |
| clivejo | where is lollipop packaged? | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Automatic lyric downloading | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Reads and writes metadata (play count, rating, lyrics, etc) to files, not a database | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Albums are or can be sorted by year | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Rating system can be love/un-love rather than stars | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Static playlists | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Smart playlists | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | - Supports songs tagged with multiple genres | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | oh eek | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | sorry, I'm a bit of an IRC noob | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | it's not currently packaged for Ubuntu, so I'm getting it via the developer's PPA | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | it is packaged in Fedora and openSUSE TW, FWIW | 19:53 |
| NateGraham | other than that, I am using Firefox instead of Konqueror, and Thunderbird instead of KMail, and for the rest, KDE apps | 19:55 |
| NateGraham | if anyone's interested, here's the list of bugzilla tickets I'm tracking to make Plasma even better for my use cases: https://pastebin.com/KVd4TUrc | 19:56 |
| * acheronuk looks it up | 19:56 | |
| NateGraham | I know people have vastly different tastes regarding what they want in a music player, but for me, Lollypop hits a lot of high notes | 19:56 |
| clivejo | maybe the developer can autodetect the window manager and turn the features on or off? | 19:58 |
| NateGraham | I suspect he doesn't care enough to do that; he is pretty focused on GNOME and GNOME technologies | 19:58 |
| NateGraham | especially because there are easy-ish workarounds in Plasma | 19:58 |
| NateGraham | but it's not a terrible idea, I can file a bug | 19:58 |
| acheronuk | no sign of debian packaging it :/ https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847937 | 19:59 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 847937 in wnpp "RFP: lollypop -- Modern music player" [Wishlist,Open] | 19:59 |
| NateGraham | https://github.com/gnumdk/lollypop/issues/1219 | 20:05 |
| clivejo | looks good | 20:05 |
| NateGraham | the dev is currently on vacation until the end of the month, I believe | 20:06 |
| NateGraham | which is why his bug tracker has a whopping 31 bugs open; it's usually around 10 | 20:06 |
| NateGraham | he does a great job at bug management | 20:06 |
| clivejo | does he package it too? | 20:08 |
| NateGraham | he has a flatpak | 20:08 |
| NateGraham | I know in openSUSE it's packaged by someone else | 20:08 |
| NateGraham | dunno about the fedora package | 20:08 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ubuntu/lollypop ? | 20:09 |
| NateGraham | yep, that's the PPA I use | 20:10 |
| NateGraham | and yeah, he makes that one | 20:10 |
| NateGraham | that's his name, Cédric Bellegarde | 20:10 |
| clivejo | I kinda like it :/ | 20:16 |
| NateGraham | No shame in that! Let's not fall prey to NIH syndrome | 20:16 |
| NateGraham | anyway, hopefully now it's a bit clearer why I'm trying to make GTK apps look better in Kubuntu | 20:17 |
| clivejo | not something I have a lot of experience with | 20:18 |
| NateGraham | so to come full circle, you invited me here in https://phabricator.kde.org/T6823 | 20:18 |
| clivejo | I did indeed | 20:19 |
| NateGraham | yeah, I've had to learn a lot about how GTK and KWin interact recently while trying to debug why GNOME apps looked like crap no matter what I did | 20:19 |
| clivejo | I wanted to hear your opinions | 20:19 |
| NateGraham | but I think I found a way to fix them, and I wanted to share that with other KDE users! | 20:19 |
| NateGraham | so yeah, the solution is 1) install gtk3-nocsd and 2) switch GNOME Application Style from Breeze to Default | 20:20 |
| NateGraham | we;ve already done #1, and #2 is covered by https://phabricator.kde.org/T6823 | 20:20 |
| clivejo | do you know about theming at all? | 20:20 |
| NateGraham | not really, but I'm up for learning anything | 20:20 |
| NateGraham | There are bugs in the Breeze GTK theme that cause the need for these hacks | 20:21 |
| NateGraham | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356006 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357524 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365924 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379637 | 20:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 356006 in gtk theme "Breeze GTK does not respect the color scheme" [Minor,Confirmed] | 20:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 357524 in gtk theme "GTK2 apps does not use custom color scheme" [Normal,Confirmed] | 20:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 365924 in gtk theme "Breeze GTK should add shadows to context menus" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] | 20:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 379637 in gtk theme "breeze-gtk should draw shadows for client-side-decorated windows" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] | 20:21 |
| clivejo | I would like to have a Unity like theme for Kubuntu | 20:22 |
| NateGraham | to be honest, I've never been a fan of themes that try to be something they're not | 20:22 |
| NateGraham | like macOS themes | 20:22 |
| NateGraham | it's *not* a Mac; pretending otherwise will just frustrate people who do wish they were using a Mac | 20:22 |
| clivejo | a blatant attempt to tempt ex Unity users to Plasma | 20:22 |
| NateGraham | same thing for Unity refugees, I imagine. There's more to it than just a theme. It's about features and behavior, not where the panel goes | 20:23 |
| clivejo | with global menus now in plasma, it should be doable | 20:23 |
| NateGraham | for example Unity users want a global menubar that works with every app, and a HUD that lets them search for keyboard shortcuts | 20:23 |
| NateGraham | the problem with the global menu IIRC is that it doesn't work for every program | 20:23 |
| NateGraham | Canonical patched recalcitrant programs into working with their global menu bar; we probably don't have the resources or willingness to do likewise | 20:24 |
| NateGraham | and we have no equivalent of the HUD | 20:24 |
| NateGraham | There is actually an equivalent for GTK programs, but it only works for GTK programs: https://github.com/p-e-w/plotinus | 20:24 |
| clivejo | I thought krunner could be configured to be HUDish | 20:24 |
| clivejo | but I dunno, also hated using Unity | 20:25 |
| NateGraham | is there a plugin that finds menu items in the currently open program? | 20:25 |
| clivejo | hence ending up with Plasma | 20:25 |
| NateGraham | that's what the Unity HUD does | 20:25 |
| NateGraham | yeah I experimented with Ubuntu a lot while still a Mac user but also couldn't really get into it | 20:25 |
| NateGraham | after I moved to LInux, I gave GNOME a good, honest shot for 7 months, but it was just not gonna work out | 20:26 |
| clivejo | do you use latte dock? | 20:26 |
| NateGraham | no | 20:26 |
| NateGraham | just an icons-only task manager on the left side | 20:26 |
| NateGraham | only issues are with the clock: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381548 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381551 | 20:27 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 381548 in Digital Clock "With a vertical panel, clock date display is too small when using a 12-hour clock (fine with 24-hour clock)" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 20:27 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 381551 in Digital Clock "With a vertical panel, Digital Clock's Long Date is truncated" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 20:27 |
| NateGraham | also on the subject of GNOME, I had a really long public discussion with some GNOME devs on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6tkk7z/the_gnome_way/ | 20:28 |
| NateGraham | it was... enlightening | 20:29 |
| NateGraham | (I'm PointiestStick) | 20:29 |
| clivejo | lot of reading | 20:33 |
| NateGraham | it's not homework :) I just thought folks might be interested in the way life seems to GNOME developers | 20:34 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdb build #210: STILL FAILING in 3.6 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdb/210/ | 20:34 | |
| NateGraham | basically, they are totally shell-shocked by the reaction they've gotten to the GNOME 3 over the years, and are accordingly very conservative in places that they should be bold and fast-moving | 20:35 |
| NateGraham | IMHO | 20:35 |
| clivejo | what are your interests? | 20:36 |
| clivejo | regarding contributing I mean | 20:36 |
| NateGraham | Basically anything I use | 20:37 |
| NateGraham | Plasma, Dolphin, Kate, Konsole, Discover, System Settings, Konversation | 20:37 |
| NateGraham | the distro as a whole, too | 20:37 |
| clivejo | do you enjoy testing, or need a stable system? | 20:38 |
| NateGraham | I use a Vm with Neon in it for testing; generally I want a stable system | 20:38 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 20:38 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdb build #211: FIXED in 9.5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdb/211/ | 20:38 | |
| NateGraham | my wish were that it were possible to selectively use rolling versions of only things I specified, while leaving the rest of the system stable | 20:38 |
| clivejo | do you know the history behind neon etc? | 20:39 |
| NateGraham | probably not as well as you do; I'd love to hear the story | 20:39 |
| clivejo | and what Kubuntu CI (KCI) is | 20:40 |
| NateGraham | dunno that | 20:40 |
| clivejo | thats the noisy thing that makes lots of scrolling in here! | 20:40 |
| NateGraham | :) | 20:41 |
| NateGraham | I love CI; I used to be a build & Release engineer | 20:41 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub/ | 20:41 |
| clivejo | we are building on xenial, zesty and artful | 20:41 |
| NateGraham | in fact, starting Monday I will be again, so I don't expect I'll have as much time for IRC :) | 20:41 |
| clivejo | thats a shame | 20:42 |
| NateGraham | yah. Gotta pay the bills, though | 20:42 |
| clivejo | I hear ya! | 20:42 |
| acheronuk | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhJQSpy3Luc | 20:43 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_ark build #76: STILL UNSTABLE in 11 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_ark/76/ | 20:45 | |
| * clivejo coughs unstable | 20:45 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_ark build #63: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_ark/63/ | 20:45 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_ark build #90: STILL UNSTABLE in 12 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_ark/90/ | 20:46 | |
| * acheronuk hands clive a cough sweet | 20:46 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_ark build #100: STILL UNSTABLE in 14 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_ark/100/ | 20:47 | |
| NateGraham | clivejo, do you do code reviews on Phabricator? I've got a patch I'm hoping to get in: https://phabricator.kde.org/D7354 | 20:54 |
| NateGraham | it's tested and works | 20:54 |
| clivejo | no sorry | 20:55 |
| NateGraham | do you know who I should contact? | 20:55 |
| clivejo | acheronuk might know | 20:55 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> the reviewers you have look the most likley. beyond that it's just seeing who is down as maintainer in kde and who contributes commits regulary for that project | 20:57 |
| NateGraham | gotcha, thanks | 20:58 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 20:58 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_k3b build #66: FIXED in 24 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_k3b/66/ | 20:58 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ark build #559: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ark/559/ | 21:00 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_ark build #241: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_ark/241/ | 21:00 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_ark build #64: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_ark/64/ | 21:08 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_ark build #101: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_ark/101/ | 21:09 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ark build #560: STILL UNSTABLE in 16 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ark/560/ | 21:16 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_ark build #242: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_ark/242/ | 21:22 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_kreport build #57: FAILURE in 3 min 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_kreport/57/ | 21:39 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kreport build #79: FAILURE in 4 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kreport/79/ | 21:40 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_kreport build #58: STILL FAILING in 3 min 46 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_kreport/58/ | 21:48 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kreport build #80: STILL FAILING in 4 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kreport/80/ | 21:50 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 23:08 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kreport build #81: FIXED in 13 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kreport/81/ | 23:08 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <gsilvapt> So, I spent an entire afternoon and night trying to get my computer back up | 23:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <gsilvapt> I accidentally deleted efi partition. Hardware malfunctions in legacy mode | 23:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <gsilvapt> I'm an idiot | 23:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <gsilvapt> Nope, didn't fix a thing. Still can't open the system settings without the entire system crashing... Sorry for the rants | 23:54 |
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