[02:38] <markie-> so the other day, i was just walking down the street and dropped my keys, bends over to pick them up, as i was doing it i caught a man checking out my behind..
[05:22] <SuperMatt> fascinating story
[09:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[17:34] <penguin42> has anyone roamed with 3 recently on PAYG - the 2 guys in the Three shop couldn't quite agree on what was supposed to happen
[17:40] <daftykins> heh
[17:41] <daftykins> do you have 'feel at home' ?
[17:42] <penguin42> I *think* so
[17:42] <daftykins> log into your account, might show up - i have a client with three right now and i think it shows up
[17:43] <daftykins> unless you avoided having the account with PAYG :>
[17:43] <penguin42> I think it does show up when I login; the qeustion was whether you need to do anything else - apparently at one point you had to convert PAYG to Addons for it to work, but they think that's no longer the case
[17:47] <daftykins> phone in? :>
[17:47] <daftykins> ooh i saw my first new nokia 3310 in Dixon's Travel at Stansted just earlier today, funky
[17:48]  * penguin42 guesses he'll find out in a couple of months when he travels
[17:49] <daftykins> client o' mine was hit by an outage across the whole of France on Wednesdayish which left him on his boat off the north coast unable to get a service XD
[17:50] <penguin42> ah yes I heard about that
[17:50]  * penguin42 is going to be in Prague for a couple of days near the end of October - that's about the limits of my travelling
[17:50] <daftykins> ooh
[17:58] <daftykins> tell you what's painful, i was just in England... 50p/MB data
[17:58] <daftykins> we're not in the EU (Guernsey)
[18:01] <penguin42> ouch
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> probably don't even have ascii there yet... still on ebdic... :-P
[20:15] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: They use fieldata - smaller bytes for a smaller island
[20:16] <zmoylan-pi> this is a 7bit island and that's the ways we likes it... :-P
[21:07] <popey> penguin42: i have a 3 sim which i only top up before I go out of the country. I just topped it up and went, didn't buy any addons because I couldn't figure out how
[21:08] <popey> worked fine
[21:09] <penguin42> popey: Cool is that on 3-2-1 ?
[21:09] <popey> uh
[21:09] <popey> dunno
[21:10] <penguin42> and when you get somewhere-foreign what happens?  I couldn't find anything on the website; but the guy in the shop said that you get a text telling you which network you should be on
[21:11] <popey> i just enabled roaming data and off I went
[21:11] <penguin42> ok, thanks
[21:11] <penguin42> I used to be on T-mobile, theirs you got a text on landing saying something like 'go to this page and do this for 1 days/100MB data' at some silly amount (before the new rules)
[21:13] <popey> oooh
[21:13] <popey> logging into the my three website I see the "turn credit into an add-on" button i couldn't find before :)
[21:13] <zmoylan-pi> is it there in all browsers? :-)
[21:14] <penguin42> popey: Ah now the guys in the shop were arguing about whether that was needed to roam on PAYG - but they checked their site and apparently not
[21:14] <popey> clearly not as I roamed last month without doing it
[21:14] <penguin42> popey: Thanks
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> i used to dread heading north when your phone jumped networks and data/calls/text went to silly money...
[21:57] <ali1234> 3 backend infrastructure is terrible
[21:57] <ali1234> their login is broken half the time
[21:57] <ali1234> but you can't beat their prices
[21:57] <penguin42> ali1234: My experience with T wasn't that much better
[21:57] <ali1234> well that's because of orange tbh
[21:57] <ali1234> they were good before they merged
[21:58] <ali1234> i currently have two 3 sims, one for the phone and one for the laptop
[21:59] <ali1234> but the laptop one i can't activate because their activation website is broken
[21:59] <ali1234> invalid security certificate, and if you set an exception it still doesn't work
[21:59] <penguin42> sounds about right
[22:00] <penguin42> ali1234: Of course the only thing worse than the website of the phone companies are the people in the shops
[22:04] <zmoylan-pi> i believe the correct method is to hack their website and fix it. then send them an email explaining how you did and get arrested... :-P
[22:07] <penguin42> I think you mean 'an invoice'
[22:08] <penguin42> actually talking of infrastructure, I forced one of the guys in the shop to check their website;  I'm not quite sure how ancient their windows install on the shop machine is, but it seems to involve opening a citrix client and going to what looks like firefox labelled as something like 'online chat'  and then going to their own site
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> then they set their rogue accountants on your account and you find a million wacky charges appearing forever...