[00:00] <tomreyn> ultrixx: makes sense?
[00:01] <ultrixx> tomreyn: not entirely
[00:01] <tomreyn> it does to me ;)
[00:01] <ultrixx> :)
[00:02] <tomreyn> if you'd like to discuss it more, let's do so in #ubuntu-offtopic (since this channel here is just about support)
[00:02] <ultrixx> oh i'd love to
[00:14] <ecv> hello why does /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq default to 176 instead of just 1 ?
[01:11] <nyx> Hey! Lately, I've seen some screenshots like this: https://workupload.com/file/VH5JJ2b. What happend to that terminal??
[01:22] <derfoh> looks like vim-powerline nyx
[01:23] <derfoh> https://github.com/Lokaltog/vim-powerline
[01:23] <nyx> derfoh OMFG it looks awesome...
[01:23] <derfoh> It's pretty neat
[01:23] <nyx> seems to be deprecated, this is listed as alternative: https://github.com/powerline/powerline
[01:23] <nyx> looks even better
[01:23] <derfoh> there's also vim-airline
[01:23] <derfoh> https://github.com/vim-airline/vim-airline
[01:24] <derfoh> there's no end to these haha
[01:24] <nyx> lol I love you <3
[01:28] <derfoh> cheers
[01:28] <tesko> how do i report a bug or issue
[01:30] <krytarik> !bugs | tesko
[01:32] <tesko> well it didnt crash Thunderbird i just got some errors
[01:33] <tesko> can i paste the output from the console to paste.ubuntu.com so perhaps someone else can see if it happens to them?
[01:34] <krytarik> Of course.
[01:34] <tesko> that will work better for me
[01:38] <tesko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25351544/
[01:38] <tesko> there ya go krytarik
[01:45] <undeclared> hello, having a weird issue where if I unplug/replug the HDMI, it doesn't display anything. Anyone have any idea how I might force it to display? (it seems detected)
[01:45] <undeclared> 16.04 LTS I think
[01:46] <undeclared> yup.
[01:47] <tesko> what are you pluging it into your tv?
[01:47] <undeclared> my box
[01:47] <undeclared> well, NAS/KODI box
[01:48] <tesko> freeNAS ?
[01:48] <undeclared> I'm running ZFS on drives, yes.. but not FreeNAS
[01:48] <undeclared> don't think you can do FreeNAS on ubuntu?
[01:49] <tesko> no thats an OS unto itself... i think
[01:49] <undeclared> yeah think so
[01:49] <undeclared> based on FreeBSD or something
[01:49] <tesko> what is kodi
[01:49] <undeclared> heard of XBMC?
[01:49] <tesko> nope
[01:49] <undeclared> it's basicly a media center software with a lot of features, extremely popular
[01:50] <undeclared> watch videos with a made-for-tv interface, categorize into tv shows/movies, ton of addons, etc
[01:51] <nyx> derfoh I've installed it, but by default, it does not show my current git branch. Do you know where to enable/what I have to do to get that?
[01:51] <tesko> undeclared, have you tried upgrading ubuntu
[01:51] <undeclared> to 17.04?
[01:52] <tesko> yea
[01:52] <undeclared> that sounds like a terrible idea lol
[01:52] <undeclared> I've never had good luck upgrading
[01:52] <undeclared> always way better to fresh install in my experience
[01:53] <tesko> aaah upgrading freebsd was simple and it had a generic kernel
[01:53] <undeclared> cool
[01:53] <undeclared> but yeah not generally an easy thing ;)
[01:53] <undeclared> I've had nightmare scenarios doing that
[01:53] <donofrio> so wait how do I get firefox 54.0.2/64 if using only update/upgrade I'm forced to get 55.0.2? this is a new install fwiw....
[01:53] <undeclared> mind you, its not an insanely bad idea to do it in general anyway, my install is not perfect
[01:54] <TunaTrky> Kodi FTW
[01:54] <undeclared> but yeah getting back to it.. no idea why my HDMI is not working
[01:54] <donofrio> kodirocks just need to add a diffrent repo to get 17.3
[01:54] <undeclared> it doesn't re-auto-detect if I unplug and replug
[01:54] <tesko> but anyway does ubuntu have a handbook or something like that?
[01:54] <nyx> derfo_h never mind, got it working
[01:57] <tesko> maybe its your monitor undeclared
[01:58] <tesko> hold on
[01:58] <undeclared> tesko - how so?
[02:00] <tesko> found this undeclared https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1574005
[02:01] <undeclared> ahh thanks tesko reading up
[02:01] <tesko> nc
[02:07] <winsoff> How do I set wifi network priority?
[02:14] <dckx-> hi, does anyone have a recommmendation for a snes emulator? Have read that higan is good
[02:25] <leaftype> dckx-, really any of them are good, and have been for well over a decade.
[02:35] <tesko> winsoff, more information needed
[02:43] <donofrio> howto fix this https://apaste.info/OUHi
[02:46] <capella> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
[03:01] <winsoff> tesko, I have 2 wifi networks with the same strength. I need to prioritize connection to one network over the other.
[03:09] <nugroho> Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger
[03:09] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[03:09] <Ben64> nugroho: what
[03:10] <tesko> winsoff, i think this will help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25352061/
[03:11] <nugroho> Ubuntu 5.10 package mplayer 1.3.0
[03:12] <Ben64> nugroho: well that hasnt been supported in about a decade so... no
[03:12] <winsoff> tesko, for two wifi networks on the same interface?
[03:13] <nugroho> Mplayer 1.3.0 gcc atomic.h
[03:13] <tesko> yea, you want to prioritize one
[03:14] <tesko> let me find more info
[03:15] <tesko> try NCD
[03:16] <tesko> network configuration deamon
[03:21] <nugroho> Ubuntu 5.10 compile mplayer 1.3.0 error in ffmpeg/libavutil/atomic_gcc.h
[03:22] <tesko> old computer?
[03:33] <xz> hi there, I have Ubuntu 16.04.2 x64 and I want to add 32bit support
[03:34] <xz> how do I do that?
[03:34] <nugroho> Oracle virtualbox running ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger compile with make-4.2 and yasm-1.3.0
[03:40] <blkadder> xz: 32 bit apps should work just fine.
[03:41] <tesko> hmmm got some updates
[03:41] <tesko> kernel updates too
[03:49] <nacc> nugroho: you understand that 5.10 is incredibly insecure and fully unsupported?
[05:08] <someone_> Hi , I'm using kubuntu 16.04, How I can know the number of version if it was 16.04.1 , 16.04.2 or 16.04.3 ?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> lsb_release -a    someone
[05:10] <undeclared> lsb_release -a
[05:15] <someone_> Thank you  :) Have a nice day .
[05:15] <ningbojoe> Hi
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:29] <nugroho> dpkg dselect aptitude synaptic ubuntu package
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> nugroho: what are you tring to do mate
[06:32] <nugroho> Mplayer multimedia package compilation at ubuntu 5.10 error in  ffmpeg libavutil atomic_gcc.h with make-4.2 yasm-1.3.0
[06:35] <undeclared> nugroho: your main issue could be the really old version, there is just too much that has been deprecated/changed in this amount of time
[06:35] <undeclared> unless yo umean 15.10
[06:36] <undeclared> nevermind im dumb, it is probably an mplayer version
[06:37] <AwesomeAsh> afternoon all...
[06:37] <Jordan_U> nugroho: Ubuntu 5.10 has been EOL for longer than it was ever supported. Install a supported version of Ubuntu.
[06:37] <undeclared> Jordan_U: it might not be ubuntu 5.10 though
[06:38] <undeclared> well lets wait on what he has to say rather
[06:38] <AwesomeAsh> recognising that i have windows installed and wants to wipe my hard drive ...
[06:38] <AwesomeAsh> argh...
[06:38] <AwesomeAsh> let me try that again
[06:38] <JonelethIrenicus> how do you test if your memory clocks are stable?
[06:38] <undeclared> AwesomeAsh: the ubuntu installer?
[06:38] <AwesomeAsh> i am trying to install ubuntu alongside windows
[06:39] <AwesomeAsh> using the ubuntu installer
[06:39] <undeclared> JonelethIrenicus: you can use memtest86+, which is inside the ubuntu installer or just straight ubuntu has the boot option
[06:39] <undeclared> gotcha
[06:39] <undeclared> is it a limit of space? might be I imagine
[06:39] <AwesomeAsh> so in the ubuntu installer it says there is nothing installed on this machine
[06:39] <undeclared> ahh
[06:39] <undeclared> what ver is installed?
[06:40] <AwesomeAsh> it gives four choices (version i think is 16.04) erase disk and install U, encrypt the new U for security, use lvm with the new U and something else
[06:41] <undeclared> yeah you're definitely right it doesn't recognize it, I'm just not sure why
[06:41] <AwesomeAsh> i have partitioned my hard drive using a windows utility already
[06:41] <undeclared> is windows an old ver though?
[06:41] <AwesomeAsh> windows 10
[06:41] <AwesomeAsh> so no, not old
[06:41] <undeclared> you could always download the latest installer if it isn't.. maybe there's detection changes
[06:41] <AwesomeAsh> well... a year old
[06:41] <AwesomeAsh> i have only just redownloaded ubuntu
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | AwesomeAsh
[06:43] <undeclared> k
[06:43] <AwesomeAsh> lets try that ...
[06:45] <AwesomeAsh> so where i am at ... (having just looked at the dual boot windows page) ... i have backed up data, i have repartitioned my hard drive ... i have 200 GB partition avail named B:\
[06:46] <AwesomeAsh> when i go into the "something else" ...
[06:46] <AwesomeAsh> it shows me partitions but without naming them ... and it is here where i need some help
[06:46] <undeclared> right
[06:46] <undeclared> you might wanna remember the size
[06:47] <AwesomeAsh> ?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Is the Windows installation installed for UEFI booting of BIOS based boot? Did you boot Ubuntu's installer via UEFI or BIOS?
[06:47] <AwesomeAsh> sorry i wrote 209714 mb = 20gig right?
[06:48] <AwesomeAsh> jordan_u um...
[06:48] <AwesomeAsh> i had to get into my bios to even get me to allow to boot from my pen drive with the iso image
[06:49] <AwesomeAsh> having done that, i can use ubuntu either from the pendrive or install it ...
[06:49] <AwesomeAsh> i am at stage 4 of 7 in the install
[06:50] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: In this context I'm talking about the boot interface, BIOS vs UEFI. Most UEFI based boot firmware has a "Compatability Support Module" that allows it to boot old operating systems that don't support the newer UEFI specification. But, you can still install Windows 10 for the older BIOS booting method.
[06:51] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Please run Boot Info Script from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[06:51] <AwesomeAsh> jordan_u if memory serves me correctly, lenovo (my laptop manufacturer) helped me change my bios to a legacy version as prior to contacting them security settings would not allow me to boot from a pen drive
[06:53] <AwesomeAsh> jordan bear with me ..
[06:53] <AwesomeAsh> just joining github ..
[06:53] <AwesomeAsh> i am like a newbie
[06:53] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: OK. You should not need to use "legacy" boot to be able to boot from a USB drive (and you shouldn't need to disable secure boot to boot Ubuntu either). You can't reasonably dual boot two OSs that are installed for different boot interfaces, so if Windows is installed for UEFI (which it should be by default) then you also need to boot and install Ubuntu via UEFI.
[06:54] <AwesomeAsh> bear with me while i locate and run this script and will tell you for sure, (i do think i have booted via uefi)
[06:56] <AwesomeAsh> jordan ... how do i load and run that baby
[06:56] <AwesomeAsh> lotuspsychje and ubottu thanks both
[06:57] <AwesomeAsh> undeclared ... if i click on /dev/sda4 ntfs ... how do i further partition drive for boot etc ?
[06:58] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: No need to get a github account. Just press the "clone or download" button then click "Download Zip". Extract the zip file then in a terminal run "sudo Downloads/bootinfoscript-master/bootinfoscript" .
[06:59] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: I would strongly recommend against doing any repartitioning until you have the installer booted via UEFI (at which point you shouldn't need to do manual partitioning).
[06:59] <somnath>  I freshly installed ubuntu 17.04 and now i am strugglling to use my wifi. The options are not showing at all. I tried going through multiple post and using that to fix but no u
[06:59] <somnath> *No Luck. Please help
[06:59] <AwesomeAsh> jordan u, i already did repartioning in windows
[07:00] <AwesomeAsh> should i exit out of my install, go to windows, delete the partition, resize the one i made smaller and come back and restart this way?
[07:01] <AwesomeAsh> jordan u ... i am on a different windows machine here ... methinks i will need to exit my install ... go to windows and run that script on the machine i am doing the install, right?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: If you created an ntfs partition in Windows then you might as well delete that then, since Ubuntu can't be installed to ntfs. You can either resize the other partiion back to its normal size or not as you wish, but that's still completely separate from the fact that you *need* to boot the Ubuntu installer via UEFI not via "Legacy"/CSM.
[07:06] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: You do need to run Boot Info Script from the machine you're trying to install to, but it also can't be run from Windows. Just boot the Ubuntu installer and choose "Try Ubuntu" and you will be able to run Boot Info Script from there. You can then also run the installer from the live session, allowing you to do nice things like connect to here and use Firefox while the install is going.
[07:06] <AwesomeAsh> ok ... i have exited my install, restarting windows on that computer ... can you run me through the delete and resize.  my boot of ubuntu is/ will be via the pen drive where i have followed all the creation directions from the ubuntu website ...
[07:06] <AwesomeAsh> so i am guessing it is eufi ... looks and sounds familiar
[07:08] <somnath> please let me know if you need any more detials for my wifi issue.
[07:10] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: If you want my help repartitioning then you'll need to do it via Ubuntu. ##windows can help you with using Windows' partitioning tools, with which I am less familiar.
[07:10] <AwesomeAsh> jordan u ... well i can load ubuntu just via the pendrive and we can repartion from there?
[07:13] <somnath> i tried rfkill , file changes etc
[07:13] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: That should be great, yes.
[07:13] <somnath> nothing is working to fix wifif
[07:14] <AwesomeAsh> restarting on other machine now ....
[07:16] <AwesomeAsh> here comes the ubuntu again ...
[07:16] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: You can go to http://webchat.freenode.net/ to connect here again via Firefox from that machine. It will be easier to give info if you're chatting from the machine you're working on .
[07:17] <AwesomeAsh> bear with me i just have to put in wireless password on that machine ...
[07:17] <AwesomeAsh> so i am picking "try ubuntu"
[07:19] <somnath> team , please let me know if anyone has faced wifi issue in 17.04 and able to fix it. I was able to fix it in past in lower versions but in 17.04 i have no liuck.
[07:19] <somnath> *luck
[07:22] <AwesomeAsh> having trouble connecting right now ...
[07:22] <AwesomeAsh> right password but not playing the game
[07:26] <AwesomeAsh> a restart was necessary
[07:27] <AwesomeAsh> jordan just a thought ...
[07:27] <AwesomeAsh> i am into ubuntu just from the pendrive and there is a desktop icon install ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS ... should i follow that?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Eventually, yes. But let's make sure you're booted via UEFI first.
[07:31] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Please open a terminal and run the following "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" (copy and paste the command, without the quotes, into a terminal. Paste by right click menu or by using ctrl+shift+v).
[07:31] <AwesomeAsh> ok i am on irc on the other machine i just need to work out how to identify to nickserv
[07:31] <AwesomeAsh> i already did that on this machine
[07:35] <AwesomeAsh_> ok here is Awesome Ash on the ubuntu machine
[07:35] <AwesomeAsh> i am going to stay here on the windows machine just not say any thing...
[07:36] <AwesomeAsh_> can you send that github script again so i can copy it into my browser here
[07:37] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript
[07:39] <AwesomeAsh> so this is the first time i have ever downloaded something with U, do i open it with archive manager or save file?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Open with archive manager. Just make sure that when you extract it you extract it to the Downloads directory so that we can find it easily.
[07:44] <AwesomeAsh_> i downloaded to documents as i thought we must have a big lag ...
[07:44] <AwesomeAsh_> same same
[07:44] <AwesomeAsh_> now that i have downloaded it ...
[07:45] <AwesomeAsh_> now what?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Open it with Archive Manager, either through Firefox or by double clicking the file in the file manager.
[07:50] <AwesomeAsh_> ok files extracted ...
[07:50] <AwesomeAsh_> file opened ...
[07:51] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: OK. Did you extract to Documents or to Downloads?
[07:51] <AwesomeAsh_> both actuall
[07:52] <AwesomeAsh_> -y
[07:52] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: OK. Then run "sudo Downloads/bootinfoscript-master/bootinfoscript" in a terminal. Do you know how to open a terminal?
[07:52] <AwesomeAsh_> no i do not
[07:52] <AwesomeAsh_> least not from U
[07:55] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Search for "terminal" in the Unity dash (which you get to by clicking the Ubuntu icon in the dock on the left of the screen).
[07:57] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: And before we run boot info script, please run "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" and tell me what it outputs.
[07:59] <AwesomeAsh_> jordan ...
[07:59] <AwesomeAsh_> do i copy everything from run " .... BIOS" or only what is between the " "
[08:00] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Only what's between the quotation marks.
[08:01] <AwesomeAsh_> so that is [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[08:01] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Correct.
[08:01] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: And it will just tell you whether you've booted via BIOS or via UEFI.
[08:01] <AwesomeAsh_> nothing happened
[08:02] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: It didn't show a line of text showing either "UEFI" or "BIOS"?
[08:03] <AwesomeAsh_> jordan u nothing at all
[08:04] <AwesomeAsh_> btw when i looked for terminal i had three choices ... terminal, uxterminal and xterminal i just chose terminal, was that ok?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Do you see a prompt in the terminal ending with "$ " or something else?
[08:05] <AwesomeAsh_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ run "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS > [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS > [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS > sudo Downloads/bootinfoscript-master/bootinfoscript >
[08:05] <AwesomeAsh_> its >
[08:05] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Yes, just plain "terminal" is great. (The other two would have worked just as well also).
[08:06] <AwesomeAsh_> btw jordan thx for your patience :)
[08:07] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: That means that the terminal is waiting for a closing quotation mark, since you entered the opening quotation mark a while ago and it's not going to actually run anything until you finish your "quote" or tell it to stop trying and move on. To tell it to stop trying and move on press ctrl+c .
[08:08] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: You're welcome :)
[08:10] <AwesomeAsh_> ok so in linux i have to go control c whenever i want to finish a command?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: ctrl+c kills a command that's running, or in this case cancels a command that the shell hasn't even started yet because it's waiting for a closing quotation mark.
[08:15] <AwesomeAsh_> jordan i just closed it off with a ] and i think it has responded bios
[08:15] <AwesomeAsh_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS] BIOS] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:16] <AwesomeAsh_> i imagine you feel now is the way i feel when i give my octagenerian father computer assistance
[08:17] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: The ending "]" wasn't needed, but that does mean that you are booted via BIOS, and if your Windows install is configured to boot via UEFI then you'll need to change your boot firmware settings (AKA "BIOS" settings) to boot via UEFI again.
[08:18] <AwesomeAsh_> ok
[08:18] <AwesomeAsh_> so what do i do now...
[08:18] <AwesomeAsh_> am i exiting ubuntu and going back into the bios?
[08:18] <AwesomeAsh_> or can i do that here in ubuntu?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: And we can tell pretty quickly if Windows is installed for UEFI. Please run "sudo blkid" and copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post a link to that output here. (Don't paste the whole output here as that would flood the channel)
[08:23] <AwesomeAsh_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25353242/
[08:25] <AwesomeAsh_> so what do we know now?
[08:29] <AwesomeAsh_> jordan u
[08:29] <AwesomeAsh_> what do we know now?
[08:29] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: Windows is installed for UEFI, so you will need to undo whatever Lenovo had you do, or if they had you do multiple things then maybe just undo making USB drives boot via BIOS/Legacy/CSM .
[08:30] <AwesomeAsh_> i will really have to think about what they made me do ...
[08:30] <AwesomeAsh_> i will start by going into the bios which means leaving ubuntu for the moment
[08:30] <AwesomeAsh_> this chat is still open on my other computer
[08:32] <AwesomeAsh_> open  but disconnected... reconnecting now
[08:34] <AwesomeAsh_> and i am back ...
[08:35] <AwesomeAsh_> jordan u... i am now going to disconnect from ubuntu on this machine and reboot stopping in the bios and try to remember what i did and undo it
[08:35] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh_: OK.
[08:35] <AwesomeAsh_> ok out for now ...
[08:36] <AwesomeAsh> i am still logged in here though right?
[08:44] <AwesomeAsh> jordan u i have got to bios options pressing f12 but selecting the various options it is just taking me back to windows...
[08:46] <AwesomeAsh> in other words i do not seem to be able to get back to the bios ...
[08:49] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/access-bios-windows-10
[08:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[08:54] <wasp_> Moin
[08:59] <AwesomeAsh> jordan u i am now back at the bios
[09:00] <AwesomeAsh> i think what i did was to change the boot mode to legacy support and boot priority to legacy first
[09:00] <AwesomeAsh> so i am guessing i need to change legacy support to uefi
[09:01] <AwesomeAsh> usb boot at enabled
[09:01] <AwesomeAsh> but what i remember now is that when it was on this setting, my security settings (which i have no idea who set up) wont allow a boot from usb
[09:05] <makara> hi. I just got a Asus UX530U and install 17.04. I'm having DNS issues.
[09:06] <makara> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[09:06] <makara> I do a wget to a file on git.io and get "unable to resolve host address"
[09:07] <makara> then I go to chrome and nav to git.io - opens fine
[09:07] <makara> returning to terminal, same command works
[09:08] <_live_session_us> hot to access ftp with ubuntu?
[09:08] <makara> sometimes it doesn't work in Chrome. I'm on google search page. Navigating search results is fine, but as soon as I click on any link it gives bad dns config error
[09:08] <_live_session_us> how to access ftp with ubuntu?
[09:08] <makara> _live_session_us, what address?
[09:09] <_live_session_us> any for example attempted ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/ in firefox, nothing
[09:09] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Well try it, and if it doesn't work we'll go from there.
[09:11] <AwesomeAsh> jordan_u i got into the bios via the windows method (thats how i got in initially) and i changed to uefi ...  i have tried it three times, different usb ports and it keeps loading windows
[09:11] <_live_session_us> makara do you ask questions and then leave?
[09:12] <makara> _live_session_us, ?
[09:13] <makara> _live_session_us, do you bight the hand that feeds?
[09:13] <_live_session_us> is the motto gets worse with every release?
[09:13] <_live_session_us> What do you feed UV dye?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Did you download the 64 bit Ubuntu image or the 32 bit one?
[09:14] <_live_session_us> got any meat on that hand?
[09:14] <bazhang> _live_session_us, thats enough
[09:14] <bazhang> take the chatter/commentary elsewhere _live_session_us
[09:15] <AwesomeAsh> Jordan_U i am not sure, i think the 64 bit but i can go and check in downloads right?
[09:15] <_live_session_us> HELLO HOW TO ACCESS AN FTP SITE
[09:15] <makara> _live_session_us, fireftp.net
[09:15] <_live_session_us> IS IT NOT THE BASIC USE OF INTERNET
[09:15] <_live_session_us> TRANSMIT DATA
[09:15] <ducasse> _live_session_us: no caps, ok?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Yes. Only the 64 bit image will boot via UEFI.
[09:19] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[09:19] <AwesomeAsh> name of file suggests it was 64 bit
[09:19] <linocisco> can anybody help me?
[09:23] <octo8> hi, someone who needs a freelancer want me to have a video interview with him, he is in anothercountry, but the weird thing is, he wants to use appear.in to have the interview recorded, i told him to use audio only but he wants video, this looks awkward to me, if you were me would you cancel this altogether?
[09:23] <AwesomeAsh> so Jordan_U now what?
[09:23] <AwesomeAsh> :)
[09:24] <Jordan_U> octo8: That sounds more like a social question than a technical/Ubuntu question. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:24] <octo8> ok
[09:25] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: Can you boot from a Windows install USB? (Not to actually install Windows, but just as a test)
[09:26] <AwesomeAsh> jordan_u i got machine preloaded ... i dont have cd or usb for that
[09:26] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[09:28] <ryzokuken> hey all!
[09:28] <ryzokuken> I wanted to use firefox nightly, found out about firefox-trunk package on mozilla daily on ubuntu
[09:28] <AwesomeAsh> jordan u no doubt i could download or torrent from somewhere?
[09:28] <ryzokuken> the only matter is, it's not built daily
[09:29] <ryzokuken> even though the nightly branch is and the repo clearly mentions the word
[09:29] <ducasse> ryzokuken: you need to ask the ppa maintainer about that, ppas are not supported here
[09:29] <ryzokuken> okay.
[09:32] <Jordan_U> AwesomeAsh: ##windows can help you legally make a Windows install USB.
[09:33] <AwesomeAsh> i am just finding that now jordan u
[09:33] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[09:34] <ducasse> linocisco: is the homedir encrypted?
[09:35] <linocisco> ducasse, nope
[09:37] <Dreaman> why unity is not in 17.10
[09:37] <Dreaman> this is mistake
[09:37] <bazhang> Dreaman, file a wishlist bug then
[09:37] <bazhang> Dreaman, #ubuntu+1 is the place for that
[09:38] <Dreaman> ok
[09:38] <Dreaman> i use stable
[09:38] <bazhang> Dreaman, chat about 17.10 goes there
[09:38] <Dreaman> ok
[09:39] <Dreaman> thanks
[09:43] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[09:50] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[09:54] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[09:54] <BluesKaj> !patience | linocisco
[09:54] <alexac> there is a problem for a newbie like the author of this message, basically what's needed is to manyally add package repository in the file /etc/apt/sources.list - but it appears read-only - or so the system said that, therefore can't be saved. what is the way to fix that sandwich?
[09:54] <alexac> s/manyally/manually
[09:55] <BluesKaj> alexac, yes loginto the file with root permissions like gksudo in order to edit it
[09:55] <ducasse> alexac: add a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d instead of editing the main sources.list
[09:55] <Jordan_U> linocisco: Sounds like your desktop session is crashing when you try to log in. Why it's crashing I do not know.
[09:56] <linocisco> Jordan_U, ahhh
[09:56] <Jordan_U> linocisco: Check the output of "journalctl".
[09:56] <alexac> thank you BluesKaj ducasse
[09:58] <linocisco> Jordan_U, is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[09:59] <Jordan_U> linocisco: I didn't say to run "sudo journalctl".
[10:01] <linocisco> Jordan_U, your_account is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[10:01] <linocisco> Jordan_U, same problem
[10:02] <alexac> what if directory is write-protected, how to disable write-protection from a shell?
[10:02] <linocisco> alexac, I dont know
[10:03] <Jordan_U> linocisco: I did *not* tell you to run "sudo journalctl". Do *not* run "sudo journalctl". *Do* run just "journalctl" with nothing else added.
[10:05] <linocisco> Jordan_U, Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
[10:05] <linocisco>       Users in the 'systemd-journal' group can see all messages. Pass -q to
[10:05] <linocisco>       turn off this notice.
[10:05] <linocisco> No journal files were opened due to insufficient permissions.
[10:07] <Jordan_U> linocisco: Press ctrl+alt+F3 to get to a tty (text only screen) where you should be able to log in as your admin account and run "journalctl" to see recent log messages.
[10:07] <Jordan_U> linocisco: ctrl+alt+F1 should get you back to the GUI login screen, and if not then ctlr+alt+F7 will.
[10:08] <ducasse> alexac: decide first if the right solution actually is to change permissions - if you are talking about /etc/apt you should instead use sudo to edit
[10:17] <linocisco> Jordan_U, same error using same account
[10:18] <linocisco> Jordan_U, with the problem account,i can see long result but can't pastebinit
[10:19] <linocisco> Jordan_U, with the problem account,i can see long result but can't pastebinit. but can access to destkop and files via command line
[10:27] <tomreyn> !password
[10:28] <tomreyn> linocisco: ^
[10:28] <tomreyn> maybe you could sum up the situation again. ideally providing details including actual user names (if you don't mind from a privacy perspective)
[10:33] <linocisco> Jordan_U, tomreyn Finally I got the result from problem account. please see https://paste.ubuntu.com/25353886 and advise me what is wrong and what to check
[10:35] <tomreyn> linocisco: what you posted is syslog, what am i looking for?
[10:35] <linocisco> tomreyn, Jordan_U said journalctl log
[10:36] <linocisco> tomreyn, he told me to see last few lines
[10:36] <tomreyn> yes, and i did not understand why he asked for it
[10:36] <linocisco> tomreyn, so what should I do?
[10:36] <tomreyn> linocisco: depends. what is the problem?
[10:37] <ducasse> linocisco: check ~/.xsession-errors, see if there's anything interesting there
[10:37] <thyriaen> i have run sensors-detect but then sensors does not show me the speed of my case fans - how can i check those out ?
[10:38] <tomreyn> thyriaen: did you read the last paragraphs which sensors-detect printed?
[10:38] <tomreyn> are those kernel modules loaded, yet?
[10:39] <thyriaen> sensors-detect said that no sensors were detected
[10:39] <tomreyn> thyriaen: then unfortunately you won't get to list the chassis fan info.
[10:40] <thyriaen> alright thanks
[10:41] <tomreyn> thyriaen: maybe with a newer lm-sensors version or (if you have new hardware only) with a newer kernel version it might work.
[10:41] <linocisco> ducasse, no such file or directory for that ~/.xsession-errors
[10:41] <thyriaen> tomreyn: ah, ill upgrade my kernel
[10:41] <tomreyn> thyriaen: which ubuntu release are you on and which mainboard do you have there?
[10:42] <thyriaen> 17.04 ( i think its the newest ) - Asus Prime X370 Pro with Ryzen ( I know about the CPU Fan bug )
[10:42] <thyriaen> i installed 1  hour ago
[10:43] <linocisco> hi all, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[10:43] <linocisco> tomreyn, i got big problem logging to my own admin account on ubuntu desktop 16.04.3 LTS. i forgot password and reset using recovery console. password is accepted during login and refresh screen and i got login screen again instead of seeing my desktop. using other admin account which i forgot password, i did reset the same way via recovery mode and it was fine to be logged in.
[10:44] <tomreyn> thyriaen: okay, pretty new indeed. it may not be so easy to get those readings, yet.
[10:45] <thyriaen> tomreyn: i think i got them on a different release of linux - at least i know for sure i that i got more sensors
[10:45] <thyriaen> tomreyn: now i only got 4 shown in psensors
[10:46] <tomreyn> linocisco: thanks for re-posting what you posted earlier. i had read it but wasn't sure whether i interpreted it correctly, so i asked you to describe it again, hoping you'd rephrase it.
[10:48] <linocisco> tomreyn, so what should I do now?
[10:48] <tomreyn> linocisco: my understanding now is that you have two user accounts both of which can use sudo. one of the users you normally use to login to your grpahical desktop, but when you login with it the graphical desktop doe snot appear but you end up on the graphical login screen again. the other user can login to the graphical desktop fine. neither of these users is 'root'. is all of this correct?
[10:49] <linocisco> tomreyn, problem account is in sudoer group. the working account is NOT
[10:50] <thyriaen> tomreyn: do you know if The Vega GPU is supported with open source drivers yet ?
[10:51] <tomreyn> thyriaen: i'm not sure. roughly a month ago it only had minimal support, insufficient for video output.
[10:51] <tomreyn> thyriaen: did you see this? https://github.com/groeck/it87/issues/10
[10:52] <tomreyn> linocisco: but the rest is correct?
[10:53] <thyriaen> tomreyn: ah right thanks - now i remember thats what i did to make it work xD
[10:53] <thyriaen> tomreyn: totally forgot about that i had to do something like that
[10:54] <linocisco> tomreyn, yes.
[10:55] <thyriaen> tomreyn: do i have to do "modprobe it87 force_id=0x8628" on startup or does that setting carry over ?
[10:57] <tomreyn> thyriaen: you should probably add it to a new .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[10:58] <tomreyn> actually just /etc/modules
[10:59] <tomreyn> thyriaen: just add "it87 force_id=0x8628" to the end of /etc/modules
[10:59] <thyriaen> tomreyn: okay thanks
[11:00] <tomreyn> linocisco: what happened between when it worked and when it stopped working?
[11:00] <tomreyn> "it" = logging in o your graphical desktop with your primary user account
[11:01] <linocisco> tomreyn, I dont see the difference. just work and now not working and see the login screen again after accepting right password
[11:02] <tomreyn> thyriaen: if you hadve specific questions regarding vega you could ask those in #radeon (but be aware those are busy kernel module dev's)
[11:02] <thyriaen> tomreyn: haha alright :)
[11:03] <tomreyn> ..so be sure to read the Xorg radeon / amdgpu wiki first of all
[11:04] <tomreyn> linocisco: i suggest you check /var/log/Xorg.*.log for "(EE)" records
[11:05] <tomreyn> linocisco: however, since your graphical desktop does start, the cause of your issues is more likely to be found somewhere else. ~/.xsession-errors is where i had expected hints as well.
[11:06] <tomreyn> linocisco: also check permissions of the home directory of your primary user, maybe you changed them accidentially.
[11:08] <linocisco> tomreyn, how to check? ~/.xsession-errors is not found
[11:08] <tomreyn> if naymyowin is your primary user account then you should check whether /home/naymyowin and all files in it are owned by naymyowin:naymyowin and this user can read and write those files and directories (directories also need the 'x' permission)
[11:08] <tomreyn> ls -l /home/naymyowin
[11:09] <linocisco> tomreyn, ok
[11:09] <tomreyn> the syslog you posted earlier may suggest that there is an ecryptfs issue
[11:09] <tomreyn> that's about your encrypted home directory
[11:10] <tomreyn> Aug 20 17:00:01 linocisco cron[1039]: Signature not found in user keyring
[11:10] <tomreyn> Aug 20 17:00:01 linocisco cron[1039]: Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[11:11] <linocisco> tomreyn, how to check if it is encrypted
[11:11] <linocisco> ?
[11:12] <tomreyn> linocisco: if it's encrypted and not mounted then "ls -l $HOME" will only show the ecryptsfs subdirectory, not all of your files and folders.
[11:13] <tomreyn> if it's encrypted and currently mounted then the 'mount' command should show a mount for your home directory
[11:14] <tomreyn> that's from memory, i don't use ecryptfs
[11:17] <tomreyn> linocisco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory should have more info
[11:19] <Dyrcona> So, this is weird: I have an Ubuntu 16.04 server. ifconfig shows 192.168.1.200 for the eno1 IP address. /etc/network/interfaces shows 192.168.1.73. The machine responds to 192.168.1.73.
[11:19] <Dyrcona> The real problem: DNS doesn't work.
[11:20] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: how do you tell that DNS does not work?
[11:21] <Dyrcona> dig fails to resolve any hostnames unless I specify a certain server to use.
[11:21] <tomreyn> can you ping ubuntu.com ?
[11:22] <Dyrcona> I can now. :) I just edited the interfaces to replace the non-working dns servers with the one that does.
[11:22] <tomreyn> so problem solved?
[11:23] <Dyrcona> eno1 still shows the wrong ip address in ifconfig, but I hear that's on the way out...
[11:23] <tomreyn> ifconfig is, yes. use ip
[11:24] <tomreyn> ip a
[11:24] <Dyrcona> This machine was previously on another network.
[11:24] <Dyrcona> The output could be neater.... from ip a, I mean.
[11:25] <Dyrcona> OK. ip a shows both addresses. How do I get rid of the wrong one?
[11:26] <tomreyn> ip --br a
[11:26] <tomreyn> if you prefer it neat ;)
[11:26] <Peanut> df -h
[11:27] <Peanut> (oops, wrong window)
[11:27] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: ip addr del 10.22.33.44/16 dev eno0
[11:27] <tomreyn> actually /32
[11:28] <tomreyn> well, depends on what you have there
[11:29] <Dyrcona> Yeah, it has /24. And both IPs are on the same LAN. I guess the "It used to be on a different network." is a red herring.
[11:29] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: Thanks I'm looking at the ip-address manpage. Like to know a little bit more before I run that.
[11:30] <tomreyn> welcome
[11:32] <Dyrcona> Great. Now I can't connect to it: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[11:32] <tomreyn> restarts sshd, check /var/log/auth.log
[11:33] <tomreyn> *restart
[11:33] <Dyrcona> Yeah, I can't do that. It's 50 miles away.
[11:34] <tomreyn> oh :-/
[11:36] <Dyrcona> If someone is still on-site, I'll ask them to reboot it.
[11:37] <tomreyn> had you said so before i would have recommended against making changes network to the network configuration unless you had had OOB management.
[11:38] <tomreyn> the local ip addresses made me think it's physically close to you.
[11:39] <Dyrcona> I usually don't, but I also don't usually have problems like that when I do, either.
[11:39] <Dyrcona> Which implies I do it often enough....though admittedly, this is the first time on Ubuntu 16.
[11:41] <tomreyn> 16.04 is indeed quite different to 14.04 especially due to systemd.
[11:43] <Dyrcona> yeah, I'm starting to really hate systemd.  Welcome to Windows 9!
[11:43] <Dyrcona> Anyway, thanks for the help, tomreyn. After the reboot, the networking seems normal.
[11:43] <tomreyn> very well
[11:49] <contact> looks like the problem is with the ftp site or something filtering the connection
[11:50] <contact> somebody made a post about mozilla being blocked
[11:50] <contact> I found an ftp site which connects
[11:50] <contact> Worse case likely some third party interference.
[11:59] <tomreyn> ?
[12:03] <Dyrcona> It's always fun rebooting servers that have been for a year or more.....
[12:04] <Dyrcona> Hmm. should have been "that have been up for a year or more."
[12:08] <tomreyn> you can prevent that by rebooting them more often ;)
[12:09] <Dyrcona> Eh, sometimes... When it's a bum drive, not so much.
[12:09] <Dyrcona> but, yeah.
[12:10] <Dyrcona> had a system with RAID that worked great until we rebooted it. :)
[12:11] <_BIGSHOT_> how to check if trim is on ?
[12:11] <_BIGSHOT_> what do i have to write in fstab?
[12:11] <_BIGSHOT_> for ssd
[12:15] <tomreyn> _BIGSHOT_: it's a cron job on 16.04: /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim
[12:15] <_BIGSHOT_> tomreyn, how do i check if it's working
[12:15] <theablestman> hi i need some help
[12:16] <tomreyn> _BIGSHOT_: you could run it manually if your storage supports it. or check syslog at the time the cronjob runs
[12:16] <theablestman> how do get firefox thunderbird / install using terminal?
[12:16] <tomreyn> _BIGSHOT_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled
[12:17] <tomreyn> note those hints about possible data loss on broken firmwares
[12:18] <tomreyn> theablestman: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox thunderbird
[12:18] <theablestman> ty
[12:18] <_BIGSHOT_> tomreyn, how to check if cron job is enabled?
[12:19] <tomreyn> _BIGSHOT_: "check syslog at the time the cronjob runs"
[12:20] <oerheks> systemctl --user list-timers
[12:20] <_BIGSHOT_> tomreyn, i tried "dmesg | grep fstrim" nothing came
[12:20] <tomreyn> oerheks: that doesn't work on my 16.04
[12:20] <theablestman> ok ty
[12:20] <theablestman> :_)
[12:20] <oerheks> tomreyn, oh indeed :-(
[12:20] <_BIGSHOT_> tomreyn, $ systemctl --user list-timers
[12:20] <_BIGSHOT_> 0 timers listed.
[12:20] <_BIGSHOT_> Pass --all to see loaded but inactive timers, too.
[12:22] <tomreyn> without --user i get output, but i don't see how it helps me determine when the weekly cron job runs
[12:22] <tomreyn> i'd just check /etc/crontab for the 'weekly' job
[12:23] <Dyrcona> yeah.
[12:24] <tomreyn> here it runs on sundays at 06:47 am
[12:24] <Dyrcona> Same here. :)
[12:25] <Dyrcona> _BIGSHOT_: ls /etc/cron.weekly
[12:25] <Dyrcona> If there's a file named fstrim, there you go!
[12:25] <tomreyn> it should be there since 14.04
[12:26] <Dyrcona> yeah, but I like to double check sometimes.
[12:26] <_BIGSHOT_> Dyrcona, do i have to make anyother changes? fstrim is present
[12:26] <_BIGSHOT_> for ssd
[12:28] <Dyrcona> I believe so.
[12:29] <tomreyn> noneed to make any changes there
[12:30] <_BIGSHOT_> Dyrcona, tomreyn how about this? http://www.pontikis.net/blog/tweak-ssd-ubuntu-16.04
[12:30] <tomreyn> unless you have very old and cheap SSDs you dont need to add atime
[12:31] <tomreyn> *noatime
[12:31] <tomreyn> current consumer SSDs (produced during the past 3 years i'd say) can handle more writes than consumer HDDs
[12:32]  * Dyrcona used to use XFS with noatime for PostgreSQL db partitions, but recently switched to ZFS on NVMe. :)
[12:32] <oerheks> the discard option for a mount in /etc/fstab enables continuous TRIM in device operations, but slows down dramaticly
[12:32] <oerheks> weekly trim is fine
[12:38] <tomreyn> _BIGSHOT_: i missed you writing 'i tried "dmesg | grep fstrim" nothing came', check /var/log/syslog* instead. so: zgrep -F cron.weekly /var/log/syslog*
[12:38] <thyriaen> I am wondering what the green temperature might stand for http://imgur.com/a/rk5sB Anyone have an idea ? ( Could be CPU, Motherboard or Chipset from what i have gathered from the BIOS )
[12:38] <tomreyn> _BIGSHOT_: this will tell you whether the weekly cron jobs have run. fstrim does not generate any output unless you run it with -v or it runs into errors, though
[12:41] <Dyrcona> thyriaen: Open Sensor Preferences in psensor, and have a look.
[12:42] <thyriaen> Dyrcona: does not really help :: all it says is lmsensor it8628-isa-0290 temp1,2,6 etc
[12:42] <Dyrcona> What's the Chip?
[12:43] <thyriaen> X370
[12:43] <Dyrcona> What does the other temp1 say?
[12:44] <thyriaen> the other temp1 ( red ) is my GPU and it says lmsensor radeon-pci-2800 temp1
[12:45] <Dyrcona> Well, I'm not sure on AMD, but x370 is the chipset, right?
[12:45] <thyriaen> Dyrcona: i just thought maybe its pretty common that for example the chipset is fluctuating like that
[12:45] <thyriaen> yes
[12:46] <Dyrcona> Psensor on my laptop says "Chip: Intel CPU" for the cpu temps.
[12:47] <Dyrcona> On AMD that might the CPU. I only started using psensor recently.
[12:47] <thyriaen> yea the thing is that there is a bug or unsupported thing for my Ryzen setup for some reason
[12:47] <thyriaen> there is a fix for it to modprobe something
[12:47] <thyriaen> i did that but now its missing the proper Names
[12:47] <thyriaen> so i try to figure out which is which
[12:47] <Dyrcona> OK.
[12:48] <thyriaen> and in my bios i know that my motherboard has a mainboard, chipset and cpu temperatures
[12:48] <Dyrcona> my guess: The higher temps (in the 40s C) are the CPU.
[12:48] <Dyrcona> Mine stays close to 50C.
[12:48] <thyriaen> currently i am assuming that Temp3 and 6 are CPU ( always the same and highest under load ), Temp2 is the Motherboard ( always constant and lowest ) and the temp1 ( green ) could be the chipset with its unregular spikes
[12:49] <thyriaen> i was just asking around since maybe there are some more experienced guys in here knowing how the chipset curve might look
[12:49] <tomreyn> thyriaen: https://github.com/groeck/lm-sensors/issues/16
[12:50] <tomreyn> ryzem isn't supported, yet, since AMD has not published anouth information (yet?)
[12:52] <thyriaen> tomreyn: yea - this is what i did $ sudo modprobe it87 force_id=0x8622 thats how i got those temperatures in the first place
[12:52] <tomreyn> i dont think they contain reliable CPU temperatures, though
[12:54] <thyriaen> tomreyn: ah alright :)
[12:55] <thyriaen> brb
[12:57] <linocisco> tomreyn, hi
[12:57] <linocisco> tomreyn, hi i have encryption passphrase
[12:57] <linocisco> tomreyn, how can I access home directory of locked out account?
[12:58] <tomreyn> linocisco: did you read the wiki i pointed you to?
[12:58] <linocisco> I restarted and lost link
[12:58] <tomreyn> there is http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
 linocisco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory should have more info
[13:00] <linocisco> tomreyn, ok
[13:20] <soee> hi, how do i zip recursively folder and all subfolders also containing dot files from command line?
[13:22] <oerheks> soee, carefull, you want to skip "." and ".." https://askubuntu.com/questions/266179/how-to-exclude-ignore-hidden-files-and-directories-in-a-wildcard-embedded-find
[13:23] <sylario> I am sorry to ask that here but it's making me crazy
[13:23] <akik> soee: zip -r does it for you
[13:23] <sylario> Is there technical documentation on how to setup the SMTP in wordpress for outgoing forgotten password link?
[13:24] <sylario> And please, do not tell me to use gmail or 365
[13:25] <linocisco> tomreyn, hi
[13:26] <linocisco> tomreyn, looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Automatically, go to section, Recovering Your Data Manually
[13:26] <linocisco> tomreyn, what is fnek?
[13:27] <tomreyn> thyriaen: FWIW I just posted to the AMD forums about the need to provide technical documentation to access and interpret CPU sensor readings. It's awaiting moderation and should show up at https://community.amd.com/thread/213584 like this http://i.imgur.com/0U3KJNb.png (if it passes moderation).
[13:27] <tomreyn> linocisco: i do not know, does its man page not tell?
[13:28] <linocisco> tomreyn, nope
[13:28] <linocisco> tomreyn, i think it is username, right?
[13:28] <tomreyn> i don't think so, it looks like an option to me
[13:28] <linocisco> tomreyn, it should not be command
[13:29] <linocisco> tomreyn, ok let me try as it is
[13:29] <tomreyn> https://linux.die.net/man/1/ecryptfs-add-passphrase
[13:29] <tomreyn> did you not say the man page doesn't tell?
[13:32] <thyriaen> tomreyn: sounds great
[13:32] <linocisco> tomreyn, ok. thanks. i m not so smart. i m not sure if my filenames are encrypted
[13:35] <tomreyn> linocisco: https://askubuntu.com/questions/187323/how-can-i-confirm-that-im-using-ecryptfs
[13:36] <t5u> hi
[13:39] <tomreyn> hi there
[13:55] <linocisco> tomreyn, hi
[14:02] <linocisco> tomreyn, instead of choosing AES, i choose no. 3. it is 24 bit and a little diffrent from guide. and I got unknown files inside mounted folder
[14:25] <masetersnipes> anyone there
[14:26] <BluesKaj> masetersnipes, just ask your question
[14:28] <kk4ewt> masetersnipes,    nope anyone is not here (checking the channel list )
[14:29] <masetersnipes> I only saw one green dot which I thought indicated the only online person, very sorry
[15:28] <fugee> i lost utf8
[15:28] <mices> i lost utf8
[15:32] <Euphony> ... Anyone available to help a newbie with some troubleshooting?
[15:35] <oerheks> mices,  how did you do that?
[15:35] <oerheks> Euphony, just ask, wait and see
[15:37] <arunpyasi> join ##hiya
[15:37] <Euphony> oerheks OK. I already tried #lubuntu so I feel like I'm spamming... I'll keep this short:
[15:40] <Euphony> installed Lubuntu 17.04 on legacy PC (Dell Dimension 4100), freezes either on or before reaching login prompt, (troubleshooting), "sudo lshw -class network" yields a Segmentation fault. Now I'm lost.
[15:42] <oerheks> Dell Dimension 4100 .. how much RAM memoy inside?
[15:42] <Euphony> Give me a minute...
[15:43] <Euphony> reading the specs...
[15:43] <oerheks> *if* it has 128 mb, no wonder .. https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/dell-dimension-4100-series-desktop-scrap-orsalvage-601760/
[15:44] <Euphony> 2x256 = 512 MB
[15:45] <oerheks> Euphony, oh that is good, still it is an ancient pentium3. how to tell the network hardware still works?
[15:47] <Euphony> Network hardware should be fine: previous Windows XP SP3 was all OK.
[15:47] <oerheks> 2001 ..
[15:48] <Euphony> specifically, the internet browser worked fine.
[15:51] <oerheks> btw no idea why checking network gives that error.. maybe the network card is not recognized?
[15:51] <Euphony> That's what I suspect
[15:52] <Euphony> ...
[15:52] <oerheks> Euphony, what is the output of:  lspci | grep Ethernet
[15:53] <oerheks> or: lspci -knn | grep Net -A2
[15:53] <Euphony> ...
[15:53] <oerheks> oops, lspci -nnk | grep -i Net
[15:54] <Euphony> lspci | grep Ethernet: 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: (...)
[15:55] <Euphony> 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: (...)
[15:55] <oerheks> and what is (...)  ?
[15:55] <Euphony> the stuff I was too lazy to type... but it's the device names
[15:56] <Euphony> trying "lspci -nnk | grep -i Net"...
[15:56] <Euphony> Want me to fill in the (...)'s?
[15:56] <oerheks> without that info i cannot do anything.
[15:56] <Euphony> OK
[15:57] <Euphony> 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 	RealTek Semiconductor RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter (rev 20)
[15:57] <Euphony> 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com 3C905C-TX EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
[15:59] <Gargoyle> What's the deal with packages like shotwell? (Current version in ubuntu = 0.22.0 which is 2+ years old) ?
[16:00] <Gargoyle> Is it just that there's no one from the ubuntu/debian side of things that gives a crap, so it never gets updated?
[16:00] <tomreyn> Euphony: that's not with --nnk
[16:01] <Euphony> OK, trying with --nnk. I typed it as "-nnk" (one dash "-")
[16:01] <oerheks> i just read the man page http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man4/xl.4freebsd.html .. not sure how to handle this, tomreyn ?
[16:02] <oerheks> embedded 3com.
[16:02] <tomreyn> yes just one dash sorry
[16:02] <Euphony> tomreyn OK, one dash...
[16:04] <tesko> oerheks, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/6891/how-can-i-add-man-page-entries-for-my-own-power-tools
[16:04] <Euphony> typing...
[16:05] <oerheks> tesko, why do i need that?
[16:05] <tesko> tells you what to do with a man page
[16:06] <tesko> doesnt it?
[16:06] <tomreyn> oerheks: me neither (sure how to handle embedded 3com NIC)
[16:06] <oerheks> tesko, then you got my comment wrong, i am not sure howto use that xl kernel module
[16:06] <JonelethIrenicus> anyone know if this is something to worry about?
[16:06] <JonelethIrenicus> audit: type=1400 audit(1503230347.747:24): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi///usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/etc/mysql/my.cnf.fallback" pid=2477 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[16:07] <JonelethIrenicus> seems like it shouldn't be blocking
[16:07] <tomreyn> oerheks: were you looking at a kfreebsd man page there?
[16:07] <tesko> oerheks, sorry abouit that
[16:07] <Euphony> oerheks tomreyn 02:0a.0 [0200] Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8185] (rev 20)
[16:07] <tomreyn> Euphony: much better :)
[16:08] <tomreyn> Euphony: how about the 3com?
[16:08] <Euphony> typing...
[16:09] <tomreyn> Euphony: oh right you need to type everything, this can take a while. maybe take classic screen shots with a smartphone and upload to imgur.com or similar if that's easier
[16:09] <Euphony> oerheks tomreyn 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: 3Com Corporation 3c905c-TX/TX-M [Tornado] [0b7:9200] (rev 78)
[16:10] <tomreyn> Euphony: in those squre brackets, does it really say [0b7: - no missing character?
[16:10] <Euphony> oerheks tomreyn 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: 3Com Corporation 3c905c-TX/TX-M [Tornado] [10b7:9200] (rev 78) <--fixed typo, missed "1" after tornado
[16:10] <tomreyn> :)
[16:10] <Euphony> Knew you'd beat me to that...
[16:12] <akik> Euphony: that's about 20 year old network card
[16:12] <Euphony> (Monitor doesn't fit the whole line, so I'm adjusting the display positioning to see it all)
[16:12] <Euphony> akik I believe so.
[16:13] <Euphony> The wireless card is ... less old.
[16:13] <tesko> JonelethIrenicus, what do you need me to do to test that out?
[16:14] <tomreyn> Euphony: life may get easier (if just for configuring the 3com or wireless) if you can shove in another NIC - or can connect one via USB - if you have one spare.
[16:14] <bhaveekdesai> ping
[16:19] <Euphony> tomreyn Never thought to snag a different card... I'll seriously consider that. Anything else I should try for now?
[16:19] <tomreyn> Euphony: the driver / kernel module which should have been loaded for the 3com is 3c59x. "lspci -knnv -d 10b7:9200" should exclusively list it as 'Kernel driver in use' and 'Kernel modules'
[16:20] <tomreyn> Euphony: i'm researching a little, this is taking a while
[16:21] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: not sure
[16:22] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: fresh install of kubuntu is throwing the error
[16:22] <tesko> well that sucks
[16:22] <tesko> um
[16:22] <tomreyn> Euphony: maybe you also want to try getting online using the 17.04 installer / live dvd / usb stick if you still have it.
[16:22] <tesko> what part of it is that code?
[16:22] <tesko> and what's the error?
[16:22] <oerheks> maybe this wireless rtl8185 works OOTB ..
[16:23] <JonelethIrenicus> audit: type=1400 audit(1503230347.747:24): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi///usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/etc/mysql/my.cnf.fallback" pid=2477 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[16:23] <JonelethIrenicus> this right?
[16:23] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: i think app armor is preventing mysqld from running for akoondi the service that tracks file changes for indexing and searching
[16:23] <Euphony> tomreyn OK. Trying "lspci -knnv -d 10b7:9200"... There is no DVD drive, only CD. I used the Alternate i386 iso
[16:23] <gde33> my google chrome just uninstalled it self?
[16:24] <tesko> request and denied masks are both r?
[16:24] <tomreyn> Euphony: oh, okay, the alternative doe snot provide a live environment.
[16:26] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: did you edit the apparmor profile by chance?
[16:26] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: not at all
[16:26] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: i am using the backports ppa so maybe something messed up with that?
[16:27] <Euphony> tomreyn Among other lines, "'Kernel driver in use: 3c59x"  "'Kernel modules: 3c59x"
[16:27] <tomreyn> i'm not sure, i lack experience with apparmor debugging
[16:27] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: ^
[16:27] <JonelethIrenicus> alright
[16:28] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay, so can you boot into reovery and check what it says in syslog?
[16:29] <Euphony> oerheks I'd be OK with either ethernet or wireless.
[16:29] <tomreyn> Euphony: i guess the main issue is that you can't boot to the login prompt currently, right?
[16:30] <tomreyn> Euphony: but you have a shell somehow, since you are able to get command output
[16:30] <Euphony> That's the main symptom when I don't use alternative boot methods
[16:30] <ZetFury> Hi, I have an issue with ubuntu/kde, after a few days the panel starts to glitch, especially task mananger. The only thing that solves it is to reboot, anyone else had this issue?
[16:30] <tomreyn> Euphony: which alternative boot method are you using right now?
[16:30] <tesko> JonelethIrenicus, why not use regular ubuntu?
[16:30] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: i like Plasma
[16:31] <tesko> fair enough
[16:31] <Euphony> tomreyn I can get to Recovery Mode, drop to root, and "login" that way
[16:31] <tesko> into doom?
[16:31] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: not so much
[16:31] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay, can you do the same again but before you drpo to root, enable networking (an option on the recovery mod emenu)
[16:32] <Euphony> tomreyn When I've done that previously, the system freezes...
[16:33] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay that's good to know. so can you check syslog for the timestamps when this happened / the records before you rebooted after the fact?
[16:33] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: why do you ask?
[16:34] <Euphony> tomreyn I believe I can, if you'll guide me...
[16:34] <tesko> because i finally got to play brutal doom .. its bloody and crazy hard
[16:35] <tesko> and you can execute dying enemies
[16:35] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: i heard it run exactly the same FPS in wine on Linux
[16:35] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: not really my style of game though
[16:35] <tesko> what is?
[16:35] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: i like strategy games
[16:35] <tomreyn> Euphony: sure. 'less' is a file viewer, you pass it one or more arguments, which are the files to view. once it loaded a file you can press 'gg' to go to the start of the file or 'G' to go to the bottom. 'q' quits. rnow run: less  /var/log/syslog
[16:35] <duzi> !themes
[16:36] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: story games and stuff
[16:36] <tomreyn> Euphony: the timestamps on the first few lines - is it from before or after the system last froze?
[16:36] <Euphony> working...
[16:37] <tesko> any one you see in the games section of the app software manager?
[16:37] <tesko> or if you dont have that.. aptitutde
[16:38] <JonelethIrenicus> tesko: yeah KDE/Plasma has Discover
[16:38] <JonelethIrenicus> I heard 0AD is pretty good
[16:38] <JonelethIrenicus> give it a shot
[16:38] <JonelethIrenicus> its free otherwise use Steam
[16:39] <Euphony> tomreyn No idea. There might even be multiple crashes... so maybe before and after, and then before and after the next one, and so on...
[16:40] <Euphony> tomreyn actually... definitely before
[16:40] <Euphony> tomreyn "Aug 13 [...]" is before, "Aug 14 [...]" is before. Lots of before.
[16:41] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay, now press 'G' to go to the end of the file.
[16:42] <Euphony> OK
[16:42] <tomreyn> Euphony: then just type '/Linux version' and press enter.
[16:43] <Euphony> tomreyn the very last line before the "^@^@^@^@" has "ModemManager manager starting in system bus" ...
[16:43] <Euphony> OK
[16:43] <tomreyn> Euphony: this will search for "Linux version". since you're at the end of the file, it should tell you "Pattern not found"
[16:43] <tomreyn> does it say so?
[16:43] <Euphony> Just as you said.
[16:44] <Euphony> "Pattern not found (press RETURN)"
[16:44] <tomreyn> Euphony: now press Enter to confirm this message, then 'N' (upper case) which searches backwards
[16:45] <Euphony> Done.
[16:45] <tomreyn> Euphony: this should bring you to the latest boot, i..e the session you're running now. if the system froze before that you should be able to tell that by inspecing the lines abive the 'Linux version' line.
[16:46] <tomreyn> Euphony: if the system shut down normally there it will list several lines of "systemd[1]: Stopping [...]".
[16:47] <Euphony> Above those few lines are more "^@^@^@" , and above those... not seeing and "systemd[1]"
[16:47] <tomreyn> Euphony: if you have a lot of ^@ there this is the result of the freeze.
[16:48] <fugee> i keep losing utf8 and i have to reinstall ubuntu under crouton
[16:48] <fugee> seems all it takes is one bad shutdown
[16:48] <tomreyn> Euphony: so the readable records just before thos ^@ may be of interest
[16:49] <Euphony> Let's see..."systemd-udevd[288]: Process '/sbin/crda' failed with exit code 249" ...
[16:49] <Euphony> "mtp-probe"...
[16:49] <oerheks> fugee, "keep losing utf8" explain please?
[16:50] <Euphony> "renamed from wlan0"...
[16:50] <fugee> oerheks: utf8 won't display system wide
[16:50] <effectnet> hello 17.04. i just got a brother laser printer.  do i want the deb or rpm file?
[16:50] <tesko> deb
[16:52] <tomreyn> Euphony: hmm some of this may actually hint at the realtek wireless causing problems rather than the 3com NIC.
[16:52] <Euphony> tomreyn Las line: "mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 2 was not an MTP device"
[16:52] <Euphony> OK
[16:53] <tomreyn> Euphony: i think the best way forward is to make Linux not load both drivers, that of the realtek wireless and that of the 3com NIC, then see if you can boot properly, and then load those modules one by one.
[16:53] <Euphony> tomreyn OK I'm ready.
[16:54] <tomreyn> Euphony: i need to prepare and test this here, give me a few minutes
[16:54] <oerheks> fugee, no, what did you do to loose it? anything installed outside official repos?
[16:54] <Euphony> OK
[16:56] <tomreyn> Euphony: actually i'm missing one piece of information. can you tell me what it says  for "Kernel module" in the output of: lspci -knnv 10ec:8185
[16:56] <BUSY> can i remove the snapd package without hurting any ubuntu dependencies?
[16:56] <Euphony> "kernel: rt1818x_pci 0000:02:0a.0 wlp2s10: renamed from wlan0"
[16:56] <Euphony> tomreyn OK, on it.
[16:56] <Euphony> ...
[16:57] <tesko> yes
[16:57] <Euphony> tomreyn How do I exit the log?
[16:57] <tomreyn> Euphony: hit "q"
[16:57] <Euphony> working...
[16:57] <oerheks> busy, sure
[16:58] <effectnet> for my new brother laser printer, will i specify the device URI?
[16:58] <tesko> BUSY: please read the manual, its handy
[16:59] <effectnet> I am being asked if i will specify the device URI.  What do i put?
[16:59] <BUSY> No manual entry for snapd, where should I look?
[16:59] <Euphony> tomreyn "Kernel driver in use: rt1818x_pci" "Kernel modules: rt1818x_pci"
[16:59] <tesko> BUSY, try apt-get
[17:00] <tesko> or apt-get remove
[17:01] <oerheks> BUSY, apt remove --purge snapd
[17:01] <oerheks> that will remove all data as well
[17:01] <effectnet> I am going to hook this printer up to a computer locally and just share it on windows network.
[17:02] <tomreyn> Euphony: please run: echo -e "blacklist 3c59x\nblacklist rt1818x_pci" > /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf
[17:02] <Euphony> typing...
[17:02] <tomreyn> Euphony: this creates a file /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf which should prevent both drivers from loading and hopefully prevents the freeze on your next boot.
[17:03] <tomreyn> Euphony: be sure to remember this file location so you can remove it later if you can find a solution
[17:03] <Euphony> 👍
[17:03] <effectnet> I got the printer installed easily.  Thank you for the help whoever up above.
[17:06] <BUSY> thank you!
[17:07] <fugee> oerheks: no
[17:07] <Euphony> tomreyn OK I ran that verbatim.
[17:07] <fugee> oerheks: just reinstalled again, i use firefox and thunderbird if that means anything
[17:08] <Euphony> tomreyn I am logged in... should I have ran that as root? Also, should I now reboot?
[17:09] <tomreyn> Euphony: you shoukd have run it as root, yes. otheriwse it should have errored, too.
[17:09] <tomreyn> Euphony: did you run it as root?
[17:09] <Euphony> Not as root, but no error.
[17:10] <fugee> oerheks: please wait i'm gonna switch to irc client in ubuntu, i'm in chromeos now
[17:10] <Euphony> It just returned everything after -e with a line break instead of  \n
[17:11] <tomreyn> Euphony: hmm it dhould not have returned anything
[17:11] <oerheks> fugee, "keep losing utf8 systemwide" i find no simular issues anyway, so i wonder what you did.
[17:11] <anaxis> is anyone else having problems with usb mice left button ghost clicks? I have tried 3 different mice, 3 different manufactures (the touch pad works fine). 4.10.0-32-lowlatency #36~16.04.1-Ubuntu
[17:11] <tomreyn> Euphony: maybe you missed the ">" character while typing it?
[17:12] <fugee_> oerheks: disregard that
[17:12] <tomreyn> Euphony: just run it again, this time as user root: echo -e "blacklist 3c59x\nblacklist rt1818x_pci" > /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf
[17:12] <tomreyn> Euphony: to verify it worked out, run this afterwards: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf
[17:12] <Euphony> 👆 You got it, missing ">". Not verbatim...
[17:13] <tomreyn> Euphony: :) it's a lot easier to copy verbatim if you understand what you're typing, i admit.
[17:13] <Euphony> typing...
[17:13] <Euphony> rather, editing...
[17:15] <Euphony> tomreyn "There are stopped jobs." ...
[17:15] <dckx-> hi, could anyone recommend me a snes emulator? I've tried a few with no success (MAME and Higan)
[17:15] <tesko> fg 1
[17:15] <tomreyn> Euphony: where do you see that?
[17:15] <Euphony> from "logout"
[17:15] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay
[17:16] <tomreyn> Euphony: just ignore that and do the echo ...
[17:16] <Euphony> I tried "sudo echo [...]" and got "Permission denied"...
[17:16] <Euphony> At first
[17:16] <tomreyn> Euphony: that's why i said you need to run it as root
[17:17] <Euphony> Right so I tried logging out and got the "stopped jobs"
[17:17] <Euphony> Trying the echo...
[17:17] <Euphony> "Permission denied."
[17:17] <Euphony> ...
[17:18] <tomreyn> so you're not root, i guess
[17:18] <Euphony> ...Help me become root?
[17:18] <tomreyn> oh wait it's probably read-only
[17:18] <tomreyn> Euphony: "whoami" tells you which user you are now.
[17:18] <Euphony> I'd like to become root...
[17:18] <Euphony> typing...
[17:19] <Euphony> "owner"
[17:19] <tomreyn> uh what
[17:19] <Euphony> my username
[17:19] <tomreyn> oh i see. can you type "exit"
[17:19] <Euphony> whoami: owner
[17:19] <tomreyn> then "whoami" again
[17:19] <Euphony> "There are stopped jobs."
[17:20] <tomreyn> fine with me
[17:20] <Euphony> Ah, I just put exit again
[17:20] <tomreyn> Euphony: just repeat "exit" and "whoami" until "whoami" tells you you are root
[17:20] <Euphony> had to do it twice...
[17:20] <Euphony> OK
[17:21] <Euphony> "root"
[17:21] <Euphony> I am root.
[17:21] <sambagirl> i have wondered about this since 10.xx.  why does the ubuntu organization continuously use the awful interface be default?  i always have to change to mate or something that i can work in. but why ever since the 10.xx versions is there this awful interface??
[17:21] <tomreyn> Euphony: mount -o remount,rw /
[17:21] <tomreyn> Euphony: then:  echo -e "blacklist 3c59x\nblacklist rt1818x_pci" > /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf
[17:21] <oerheks> sambagirl, you have lots of choise..
[17:22] <Euphony> typing...
[17:22] <oerheks> sambagirl, i kinda like unity :-D
[17:22] <sambagirl> unity yes that is what it is called. i think it evokes disunity.
[17:22] <oerheks> !flavor
[17:23] <oerheks> sambagirl, if you want to talk about it, #ubuntu-discuss is the place to be, this is technical support, thanks.
[17:23] <sambagirl> i'm just asking why by default there is this determination to force unity? i have complained about this ever since it was originally introduced. Seveas remembers that i am sure.
[17:23] <sambagirl> ok
[17:24] <sambagirl> i forgot about this being tech board
[17:25] <Euphony> tomreyn OK I ran the echo and the ls
[17:25] <Euphony> It's there.
[17:28] <Danski> Bought 50 desktop ubuntu advantage earlier today. Got the email with payment confirmation and that another mail will arrive shortly for the activation. That was 10 hours ago and can't get in contact with anyone at Canonical =( Does anyone have an idea what to do? I need these licenses right away, 50 desktops are currently unusable as it won't register to Landscape
[17:28] <_BIGSHOT_> hello sambagirl how are you dear
[17:29] <_BIGSHOT_> sambagirl, you wanna chill for awhile with Big shot?
[17:29] <akik> Danski: can't you skip this landscape service to make them usable?
[17:29] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay, so reboot and cross fingers
[17:29] <Euphony> 🤞
[17:30] <Euphony> tomreyn Frozen at login prompt.
[17:30] <oerheks> _BIGSHOT_, move to offtopic or join ubuntu-discuss, thanks
[17:30] <tomreyn> :-/
[17:30] <Danski> akik, kind of. I have some scripts that needs to be run on each desktop so they register to our LDAP/Kerberos environment
[17:30] <Euphony> tomreyn "less  /var/log/syslog" ?
[17:30] <Danski> Which means, right now my only solution is to run around to 50 desktops and run a bunch of scripts on each =(
[17:30] <tomreyn> Euphony: so either blacklisting did not work or it's something else that causes the freeze
[17:31] <akik> Danski: it's kind of a bummer to see that on linux. you don't have remote management solution?
[17:31] <anaxis_not_Axis> maybe "left button ghost clicks" wasn't clear... but I am getting a double click from the left mouse button at random times. Am I the only one?
[17:31] <Danski> akik: yes. Landscape =D
[17:31] <tomreyn> Euphony: you could look at it more like we did before to possibly detemrine the cause of the freeze. but i think you'd be better off triny to boot off an ubuntu 16.04 live usb and see if this works with networking.
[17:31] <akik> Danski: i mean, like ssh with keys?
[17:32] <Danski> it's handled through landscape today
[17:32] <tomreyn> Euphony: that's if you are currently able to produce one.
[17:32] <anaxis_not_Axis> I will take silence as a yes. :-)
[17:32] <akik> how can the functionality of ubuntu workstations be tied to something called landscape and money?
[17:32] <Danski> and private/public keys are managed with ldap... don't really wanna start messing with local
[17:34] <Danski> akik: landscape works great for us. The money is pretty much nothing compared to other solutions and other costs of our infrastructure. But it of course needs to allow new computers to register and right now it won
[17:34] <Danski> akik: landscape works great for us. The money is pretty much nothing compared to other solutions and other costs of our infrastructure. But it of course needs to allow new computers to register and right now it won't
[17:34] <akik> Danski: it's good to have ssh keys for local admin user
[17:34] <Danski> I guess I could add this to pxe-preeseed
[17:34] <Euphony> tomreyn Viewing syslog: something again with "rt1818x_pci"
[17:34] <Euphony> ...
[17:34] <Euphony> "whoopsie/lock"...
[17:35] <Danski> and then push out scripts using that, just really anoying to pay $7500 and they don't even send me the email with the license key
[17:35] <tomreyn> Euphony: can you quit the viewer ('less) by pressing 'q' and run: cat /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf
[17:36] <Danski> No answer on emails and calling is useless on a sunday as I don't have the license key I can't get pass the sales section (that is closed)
[17:36] <tomreyn> Euphony: ... and confirm that it says "blacklist rt1818x_pci" (without quotes) as the only thing on a single line?
[17:36] <Euphony> tomreyn "Process '/usr/sbin/alsactl -E HOME=/run/alsa restore 0' failed wi"~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[17:36] <tgm4883> Danski: That does sound annoying, and off topic
[17:36] <Euphony> tomreyn checking...
[17:37] <tomreyn> Euphony: actually it needs to say this: "blacklist rtl818x pci"
[17:37] <effectnet> hi when i put http://192.168.1.114/admin, it says that it's forbidden
[17:38] <effectnet> hi when i put http://192.168.1.114:631/admin, it says that it's forbidden
[17:38] <tomreyn> Euphony: actually it needs to say this: "blacklist rtl818x_pci"
[17:38] <tomreyn> Euphony: so that's RTL + eight + one + eight + X + underscore + PCI
[17:38] <tomreyn> Euphony: i.e. the L is not a 1
[17:39] <Danski> Is there any way anyone know how to get the license keys I paid for today? It must be at least someone working on Canonical today that can fix it? This channel is my best guess :-p How ever I'm open for other solutions. Getting Landscape to work is best as it also handles packages, but adding a SSH-key would be a temporary fix for the next 24hours
[17:39] <Euphony> tomreyn "blacklist 3c59x" "blacklist rt1818x_pci"
[17:39] <donofrio> getting these errors when I try startxfce4 - https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm7JmP8ZmaQiQ77NWfQ
[17:39] <Danski> adding SSH-key with PXE/Preseed that is
[17:39] <Euphony> Ah.... I type 1 not lowercase L
[17:40] <tomreyn> Euphony: that's actually my fault, i told you that
[17:40] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay, please work as root or work with sudo to run: nano /etc/modprobe.d/local-blacklist-all-nics.conf
[17:40] <Danski> Any other ideas out there except reinstalling 50 clients using new preseed? Noone has a way to get the license keys for Ubuntu Advantage or contact at Canonical that can fix their broken emails
[17:41] <blackbird1> Hi, how to display only the matched lines without the paths and filenames using find command line ?
[17:41] <tomreyn> Euphony: you can edit this file then and fix my typo. and you can press ctrl-x to save it (confirm that you wish to save it)
[17:41] <blackbird1> my try: https://pastebin.com/Ujm429br
[17:41] <Euphony> I was totally reading "eighteen eighteen" regardless 😅
[17:41] <blackbird1> But I don't know how to display remove paths and filenames
[17:42] <tgm4883> Danski: wouldn't you have to go around and join all of the hosts to landscape anyway?
[17:42] <tomreyn> blackbird1: add -h to the grep command
[17:43] <Danski> tgm4883: They register to landscape automacitly as a late-command in the preseed PXE-install
[17:43] <tomreyn> blackbird1: and remove -H
[17:43] <tomreyn> blackbird1: actually just remove -H
[17:44] <Euphony> tomreyn Editted, saved, rebooting. (I've been typing one all along--
[17:44] <tomreyn> Euphony: just to confirm, this file you edited had two lines, each starting with 'blacklist', right?
[17:45] <Danski> But Landscape needs the missing licenses to accept the computers. Landscape then runs some basic shell scripts to change hostname, join them to the LDAP domain and has a centralized package controller. I could do scripts for all of this as well but Landscape works great for this
[17:45] <Euphony> tomreyn A GUI appears...😲
[17:45] <tomreyn> Euphony: omg omg omg! ;)
[17:45] <Euphony> Correct.
[17:45] <tomreyn> Euphony: and it just took us an hour
[17:46] <tomreyn> or mor elike 2 ;)
[17:46] <Danski> Best for me would be to get the freaking licenses I paid for from Canonical in some way (or just get landscape to accept new computers anyway)
[17:47] <Euphony> tomreyn Can hardly believe you'd stick around for this... might be just too early for it, but thank you.
[17:47] <tomreyn> Euphony: so now you wont have internet access. what we know is that the wireless module causes problems. we can hope that the ethernet NIC can work.
[17:47] <Euphony> working...
[17:47] <Danski> Second best is to just do the most vital things (hostname + joing LDAP) by reinstalling everything and do this in preseed
[17:47] <Danski> as suggested akik ^^
[17:47] <Euphony> tomreyn OK, let's finish this. Logging in...
[17:47] <tgm4883> Danski: Unfortunately, it's Sunday, so I'm not sure you're going to find many people here with access to that
[17:47] <tomreyn> Euphony: it was an exciting story, i had to know how it would end. but it's not over, yet. ;)
[17:48] <blackbird1> tomreyn: thanks, it works
[17:49] <tomreyn> blackbird1: welcome. if you want to understand why, just review the 'grep' man page, specifically the -H option there: man grep
[17:49] <Danski> tgm4883 You are right, I'm just really hoping that I might =) will save me a very late night today and more job further down the road fixing all the temporary stuff
[17:49] <akik> Danski: i don't know about preseed but are you saying you don't have access to the 50 machines now remotely and root access?
[17:49] <tomreyn> Euphony: so open a terminal window now and type: "sudo modprobe -v 3c59x"
[17:49] <Euphony> tomreyn To think that I was just going to yank out one of those cards following your initial suggestion... OK, logged-in and viewing the desktop.
[17:50] <Euphony> OK
[17:50] <Euphony> LXterminal... typing...
[17:51] <kosak> Hi Mr Drone
[17:51] <vlt> Hello. How can I transform a .diff file to a PDF with highlighted lines?
[17:51] <kosak> Hi chachasmootth
[17:51] <kosak>  hi guys I have a problem with NVIDIA Prime GPU switching ,it is a strange bug
[17:51] <kosak> I can only switch GPUs if I logout and then reboot
[17:51] <kosak>  If i change GPU , logout and try to log back in
[17:51] <kosak>  I get asked for password endless times
[17:51] <kosak>  wth?
[17:51] <tomreyn> Euphony: i could not tell which of them are actually removable NICs. if the wireless one is removeable you might as well remove that since (unless you spent further debugging time) it won't be usable on this ubuntu release / kernel version.
[17:51] <Danski> akik, yes. The machines install themself after booting from network. The last thing they do is register to Landscape that will run my configs. As we don't use local users or SSH at all there was never any need to create a remote super user
[17:52] <Euphony> tomreyn OK, done.
[17:52] <Euphony> Done modprobe. Not done yanking card.
[17:52] <eelstrebor> not sure if my last post made it so here it is again
[17:52] <eelstrebor> from what i've read, network-manager is suppose to setup interface metrics to give priority to ethernet connections over wifi connections - but it's not working out that way - both ethernet and wifi autoconnect
[17:52] <kosak> Is there anyone willing to help debug an Nvidia Optimus issue?
[17:52] <tgm4883> eelstrebor: just because they both autoconnect doesn't mean ethernet isn't given priority
[17:53] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay. do you know how to configure the network? yopu should see an icon for managing network connections on the top right corner (though i'm not sure about lubuntu)
[17:53] <Euphony> It's bottom right but I see it. Attempting to connect...
[17:53] <Danski> akik, after LAndscape have runned its scripts I have sudo users in LDAP. I can rebuild this infrastructure but it requires me to reset everything later again to not make it different from the rest of the network
[17:54] <tomreyn> Euphony: so only connect to the ethernet, not wireless (in case both is available)
[17:54] <Euphony> tomreyn Connection established.
[17:54] <tgm4883> Danski: you already have other computers joined to landscape?
[17:54] <Danski> Different office, different account =(
[17:54] <tomreyn> Euphony: yeay, and can you access the internet?
[17:55] <Euphony> tomreyn Trying Web Browser...
[17:55] <Danski> Here I have 10 computers joined on Landscape using trial
[17:55] <tgm4883> You have different accounts for different offices in the same company?
[17:55] <tomreyn> Euphony: try with a web browser or type this in a temrinal: ping -c3 ubuntu.com
[17:55] <Danski> tgm4883 Different companies =)
[17:55] <tgm4883> Danski: you have different companies on the same network?
[17:55] <Danski> tgm4883 compicated policics, very off topic stuff
[17:55] <eelstrebor> tgm4883, so, you're saying that i can have a connection to both but traffic will go out on either one but not both?
[17:56] <tgm4883> eelstrebor: yes
[17:56] <tgm4883> eelstrebor: 'route' should show you the metric set for each interface
[17:57] <Euphony> tomreyn Web Browser OK. "ping" 3/3,  0% packet loss
[17:57] <tgm4883> Danski: well sure, but so is coming here looking for help getting your landscape licenses.
[17:57] <tgm4883> Danski: AFAIK, there isn't a good channel for that, #ubuntu-server is probably the wrong channel as well, but I think you'll have better luck finding other landscape users there
[17:58] <tomreyn> Euphony: welcome to the internet.
[17:58] <Danski> tgm4883 I know and I'm sorry. But as you can understand it's rebuilding and running between 50 computers all night or hoping that someone in the Ubuntu community have friends that can help out.
[17:59] <Danski> This is for sure a last resort to try this channel, I'm gonna get started on reinstalling everything now. Sometimes you get lucky in the great IRC community ;-
[17:59] <netsrot> Hi, is it possible to get chromium to run in wayland using the packages in the regular ubuntu repository?
[18:00] <tgm4883> Danski: I can understand your frustrations, that doesn't make this the correct place to A) Ask for help on this issue or B) post your frustrations
[18:00] <fyber> What happened to wubi? Anyone here used hakuna-m's fork with UEFI support?
[18:00] <Euphony> tomreyn 🤝 Thank you. I think I'll pull that wireless card out. Anything else I should do? (Besides perform this 224.9 MB software update...)
[18:00] <tgm4883> fyber: wubi is terrible, we try to pretend it never existed
[18:00] <Danski> tgm4883 notes, only tried to explain the issue. I'm open for other solutions and got one =)
[18:01] <tomreyn> Euphony: if you like you could paste your /var/log/syslog.1 and /var/log/syslog (or the relevant parts of it) to paste.ubuntu.com now. i could take a quick glance and see if maybe this wireless issue can be fixable.
[18:01] <tomreyn> Euphony: nothing else i can think of right now.
[18:01] <tomreyn> !paste | Euphony
[18:01] <tomreyn> ^ optionally
[18:02] <Euphony> tomreyn I'll give it a shot. working...
[18:03] <tomreyn> Euphony: and do consider replacing your hardware (or some parts of it) soon if you can spend that money. often a good start is to just replace your hard disk by an ssd. cheap and very effective. but mid term you'll want to replace the entire thing. :-/
[18:03] <fyber> tgm4883: I thought it was pretty convenient, guess I'm stuck with dual booting the "manual" way then.
[18:04] <Euphony> 👌 Understood. Pasting...
[18:06] <aloo_shu> tgm4883 wubi: quote of the year. puppy showed how to make the principle work.
[18:07] <tomreyn> Euphony: one last thing you *may* want to do (i.e. also optional) is to check for proprietary drivers for your system. you can use the lubuntu menu to navigate to settings -> additional drivers or use the "ubuntu-drivers" command on a temrinal.
[18:08] <Euphony> tomreyn 👆 Will do. Pasting...
[18:09] <Euphony> tomreyn Any requests for Syntax? "Plain Text" otherwise...
[18:09] <tomreyn> Euphony: plain text is fine.
[18:10] <tomreyn> Euphony: if you read what ubottu told you there are easier ways than manual copy + paste
[18:10] <tomreyn> but i guess that's too late now
[18:11] <tomreyn> (or maybe you chose to paste selectively, in which case that's indeed the best approach)
[18:14] <Euphony> tomreyn ❔Which part from ubottu? Paste: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25356689
[18:15] <tomreyn> Euphony: pastebinit
[18:16] <tomreyn> Euphony: it's a software you can install to send entire files or output of commands to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:17] <Euphony> I see... maybe I'll install it after this update..
[18:18] <tomreyn> Euphony: this log you pasted is all timestamped to Aug 13, today is Aug 20. is or was your system time incorrect or is it an old file?
[18:18] <Euphony> tomreyn I posted the URL above. It doesn't seem to have all the latest events though. I could only find "syslog", not "syslog.1"
[18:18] <Euphony> Seems to be an old file...
[18:18] <tomreyn> Euphony: okay, i suspect that you just did not succeed in making the entire file available then, or it was just cut off because it was too long.
[18:20] <gglasses> So, Firefox zooms my webpages at random. :(
[18:20] <tomreyn> Euphony: you could (later) use this to only post today's records: sudo grep '^Aug 20 ' /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[18:20] <oerheks> gglasses, yes, i have noticed that ugly bug too
[18:20] <oerheks> err "design"
[18:21] <gglasses> oerheks, oh, so bad it's happening to you too, but glad it wasn't something i meessed up them
[18:23] <Euphony> tomreyn That was the whole file. Here's the pastebinit URL for that command: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25356733/
[18:25] <tomreyn> Euphony: oh, that didn't work, sorry. sudo grep --text '^Aug 20 ' /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[18:26] <tomreyn> Euphony: you know you could just run IRC on the computer we're talking about, right? might be easier since you can better copy + paste.
[18:26] <Euphony> tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/25356778/ Nice.
[18:26] <tomreyn> Euphony: on the other hand, we're pretty much done
[18:26] <tomreyn> that's current, great
[18:28] <Euphony> tomreyn Pretty much done indeed... recommend an IRC client for me for the old machine? For later use.
[18:29] <tomreyn> hexchat
[18:31] <Euphony> hexchat it shall be
[18:31] <Euphony> Thank you, tomreyn.
[18:31] <Euphony> ...
[18:32] <jpX> can anyone help me find some compatible video drivers for a 7950 on 17.04? i've been reading about oibaf and such but nothing seems to work
[18:32] <tomreyn> Euphony: welcome :)
[18:32] <oerheks> radeon 7950, i think that uses amdgpu?
[18:32] <Euphony> 👋
[18:33] <jpX> yes. i'm not really sure. i've looked into it at it didn't look like it was supported. or maybe it was amdgpu-pro? ... i'm not really sure what i'm doing
[18:33] <oerheks> amdgpu-pro is the DRM  binairy blob on top of amdgpu IIRC
[18:34] <oerheks> !amd
[18:34] <jpX> what a beautiful command, thanks
[18:38] <jpX> well i guess i'm just screwed having an older card (GCN 1st gen) then :/
[18:41] <oerheks> jpX, sorry to hear that, my ati 5450 does fine with the open radeon driver, 2 screens, 2 movies, no issues
[18:44] <tomreyn> Euphony: reviewing the system log i notice this: Aug 20 09:54:49 dimension sh[389]: /etc/network/interfaces:14: unknown or no method and no inherits keyword specified; Aug 20 09:54:49 dimension sh[389]: ifquery: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[18:44] <tomreyn> Euphony: that's a bit unexpected on a newly setup system unless you manually edited this file?
[18:46] <Euphony> tomreyn No manual edits whatsoever. I can try to provide more info if you've got questions.
[18:47] <tomreyn> Euphony: hmm, wellif you'd like to debug this more, it's about what looks like a configuration issue in your central network configuration file. you can run: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:48] <Euphony> tomreyn On a few boot-ups, I had tried noapic and acpi=off , if that's relevant.
[18:48] <Euphony> Pasting...
[18:49] <tomreyn> Euphony: that's not related and not an issue.
[18:49] <Euphony> tomreyn OK. https://paste.ubuntu.com/25356928/
[18:50] <Euphony> tomreyn AH, Iremember typing that
[18:51] <tomreyn> Euphony: you can just remove lines 10 to the end since you use network-manager
[18:51] <Euphony> tomreyn I'm glad I added that comment to label.
[18:52] <Euphony> Will do.
[18:52] <tomreyn> the asterisk in "dhcp*" is a typo
[18:53] <Euphony> Oh, well. I wonder if it would've made any difference...
[18:53] <blackbird1> tomreyn: https://cmdchallenge.com/?utm_source=nixcraft#/extract_ip_addresses
[18:54] <blackbird1> tomreyn: find . -type f -name "access.log*" -exec egrep -o "[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\.[0-9]*" {} \;
[18:54] <blackbird1> I dunno why isn't correct !
[18:56] <gglasses> Hey guys. How can I move my /home folder in Ubuntu to /home/ubuntu?
[18:56] <gglasses> ^^ I'm trying to install many Linux distros
[18:58] <tomreyn> blackbird1: sorry i know nothing about how this system interprets your input. i assume the command you provided could have worked.
[18:58] <Jordan_U> gglasses: If each distro is going to have its own root partition, why not just keep each distro's /home/ as part of that distro's root, rather than having a separate /home/ partition? One of the main reasons to have a separate /home/ when using multiple distros is that you can share /home/, but it sounds like you explicitly don't want to do that.
[18:59] <NDPTAL85> Fuckity Fuckballs: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/20/16176106/philip-k-dick-electric-dreams-sci-fi-anthology-amazon-video-stan-channel-4-watch
[18:59] <tomreyn> NDPTAL85: that's OT here
[18:59] <oerheks> NDPTAL85, how is that ubuntu support related?
[19:00] <Jordan_U> NDPTAL85: You're in the wrong channel for that. Please watch your language and stick to the topic of Ubuntu support.
[19:00] <NDPTAL85> I'm so sorry
[19:00] <gglasses> Jordan_U, I want to share files indeed, but don't want to have any trouble with differnet versions of the same software
[19:00] <NDPTAL85> My client switched channel order on me after an update
[19:01] <Jordan_U> gglasses: But you don't want to share /home/, so don't. Maybe have ~/Documents/ be a symlink to your separate partition but keep everything that is specific to a given distro in that distro's root filesystem.
[19:03] <gglasses> Jordan_U, specially since I'm a newbie right? haha gotcha. thanks :)
[19:03] <Jordan_U> gglasses: You're welcome :)
[19:27] <tomreyn> Euphony: one more recommendation: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install dkms
[19:28] <tomreyn> Euphony: once you did this, reboot (can be later) and try the "additional drivers" option from lubuntu menu again
[19:29] <Euphony> tomreyn 👌
[19:29] <tomreyn> Euphony: and finally if you want to give the wireless another try, ensure that /etc/default/crda is present and looks exactly like this: https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=8310
[19:30] <tomreyn> Euphony: to re-enable wireless until the next reboot you'll need to "sudo modprobe rtl818x_pci" and configure it using network-manager (if the system didn't freeze yet ;) )
[19:31] <Euphony> tomreyn Trying now...
[19:31] <aloo_shu> gglasses I once had a setup like that. I had a partition for all my distro's /home folders, but kept separate. these /home folders got mounted onto the varios distro's /home folders by putting them in fstab. On my 'homes' partition, I made a Documents, Downloads, Music etc. folder and symlinked to there from the various /home/myuser folders. voila, all my distros shared, and configs still apart
[19:32] <gglasses> aloo_shu, that seems like great content for a blog post ;) i'll read it!
[19:37] <aloo_shu> gglasses why blog it if it fits in one chat line? maybe not apt for noobs, but not rocket science, neither. using the man command, reading up about the concept of mounting, and the concept of standard directory layout in linux, can get you there in less than a year
[19:37] <lesshaste> is there any tool that can cut out part of a pdf document? That is remove part of a page to make that page shorter?
[19:38] <gglasses> aloo_shu, hahaha <3
[19:38] <duzi> How should I re-run a startup program which has been forcibly stopped after reboot. I don't want to reboot the system again. How should I do it?
[19:39] <Ben64> duzi: just... run it?
[19:39] <duzi> execute it
[19:39] <Ben64> yes
[19:39] <duzi> how should I do it
[19:40] <Ben64> duzi: by clicking on it or typing the name in a terminal
[19:40] <aloo_shu> lesshaste I had one w/ mint, lemme check, but you could also do a search in synaptic
[19:41] <oerheks> systemctl --state=failed # would give a list that ... failed ( systemD)
[19:42] <oerheks> or all: systemctl list-unit-files
[19:42] <lesshaste> aloo_shu, thanks
[19:43] <oerheks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg # this will give a chart
[19:44] <sambagirl> i just used gparted to boot and resize a drive. i have ubuntu 16.xx installed and i just installed server 2012 on the partition i created after resizing initial drive.  how do i modify grub as I can't access it.
[19:44] <tomreyn> Euphony: lastly, if my guess is right and your computer is a Dell Dimension 4100 then your BIOS A06 11/28/2000 is outdated, the latest one is A11 which is available at http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=R45081&fileId=2731125354&osCode=W98&productCode=dimension-4100&languageCode=en&categoryId=BI
[19:44] <oerheks> sambagirl, reinstall grub, see the grub factoid
[19:44] <oerheks> !grup
[19:45] <oerheks> !grub
[19:45] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[19:47] <Euphony> tomreyn Yes, the BIOS is A06. 💾....
[19:48] <tomreyn> Euphony: and something is stuck in your floppy disk drive or the drive is just broken
[19:50] <tomreyn> you don't really need to boot from a floppy to upgrade the bios, though. this can be done from a usb stick with freedos on it, or even from the hard disk. but it's a bit complicated.
[19:50] <Euphony> tomreyn ...CD drive? The CD drive has been malfunctioning for a while... I thought the floppy drive was OK....
[19:52] <oerheks> How did you install Lubuntu then??
[19:52] <ObrienDave> carefully? ;p
[19:52] <undeclared> heh you'd be surprised what people can pull off if they need to.. lan boot netinstall I've seen lol
[19:53] <oerheks> no, netinstall was not possible, network adapter problem
[19:53] <undeclared> k
[19:54] <Euphony> tomreyn Trouble has been that USB devices haven't been recognized on the Dimension 4100 (attempting to updating the BIOS was my one of my original thoughts, which I didn't follow though with...). The HDD sounds OK unless I find a floppy around...
[19:57] <Euphony> oerheks burned Lubuntu 17.04 Alternate i386 iso to CD-ROM. The CD drive malfunctions by automatically closing a few seconds after opening (enough time to sneak a CD in). The drive reads CDs just fine. The malfunction seems only to be mechanical...
[19:58] <Euphony> I haven't been so bothered by that though.
[20:02] <tomreyn> Euphony: those last lines of what you posted made me think there is an issue with the first floppy drive (fd0): https://paste.ubuntu.com/25356778/
[20:02] <tomreyn> i assume the system keeps printing these messages to syslog now
[20:04] <Euphony> tomreyn I had been trying solutions to related problems that I found by Google-searching error messages...
[20:05] <jfcl> hi guys by mistake i deleted K01postfix from a rc.d directory. is there a way to get back just that file from somewhere or can i take the K01postfix file from another rc.d directory? is it the same?
[20:06] <jhutchins> jfcl: The "files" in the rc? directories are symbolic links to files in /etc/init.d/
[20:06] <tomreyn> Euphony: the easiest solution to the fd errors is probably to unplug the drive (both in terms of power and data cable)
[20:07] <jfcl> jhutchins: i am using mate-ubuntu and deleted that symbolic link then... is it bad? I mean I also deleted the alsa-utils and avahi symbolic links
[20:08] <Euphony> tomreyn "/etc/network/interfaces" See the top solution, might look familiar: https://askubuntu.com/questions/758594/no-networking-failed-to-bring-up-eth0
[20:08] <jfcl> i just dont want my system not to boot up because of that
[20:09] <jhutchins> jfcl: It's not the preferred method of managing startups.  rcconf, chkconfig, or newer systemd utilities if you have that.
[20:09] <jhutchins> jfcl: You should be able to just disable/re-enable that service and you'l be ok.
[20:09] <jhutchins> Actually - you deketed K01postfix - that will simply fail to shut down postfix when entering that level (K is Kill).
[20:10] <jhutchins> jfcl: Which runlevel?
[20:10] <jfcl> jhutchins i use mate ubuntu 16.04 do you know how i can manage startup services easily?
[20:10] <jfcl> hmm let me check
[20:11] <jfcl> rc6.d run level
[20:11] <jhutchins> jfcl: That's reboot.
[20:11] <tomreyn> Euphony: hehe, well i still think the * is a typo there
[20:11] <jfcl> ok
[20:12] <axslayer33> If I have an ubuntu desktop, and an ubuntu-mate .iso on a usb, can I live boot the -mate distro to reset the ubuntu desktop's password?
[20:12] <jfcl> jhutchins: you know how I can fix this ? you talked about systemd
[20:12] <jhutchins> jfcl: ln -s /etc/init.d/postfix /etc/rc6.d/K01postfix
[20:12] <jhutchins> jfcl: As root of course.
[20:12] <oerheks> jfcl, don't crosspost please, notfair for the volunteers
[20:13] <jfcl> oerheks: what is cross post?
[20:13] <oerheks> you ask the same in ##linux
[20:13] <jfcl> oh other channel? they did not really help me sorry
[20:13] <jfcl> as of now
[20:14] <jfcl> oerheks: sorry didnt mean to
[20:14] <jfcl> jhutchins: done, it worked. systemd is the best util I should use to choose which service I should run?
[20:15] <axslayer33> Also why would a ubuntu and an ubuntu-mate desktop plugged into an ethernet cable constantly fail to connect to the network?
[20:16] <Bashing-om> axslayer33: Try : Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[20:16] <jhutchins> jfcl: systemd is the new replacement for init.  Sounds like you're on the older system.
[20:17] <jfcl> i will man init then
[20:17] <jhutchins> jfcl: It's something like systemctl enable postfix.service to turn it on or off there.
[20:17] <oerheks> axslayer33, it should work to reset password, mate iso. network issues, bad cable perhaps? wonky connector?
[20:17] <oerheks> !pass
[20:18] <jfcl> ok thanks :)
[20:18] <axslayer33> @oerheks Could be the cable, maybe. Was following the official guide, can't find my ubuntu drive, was curious if a mate drive would work
[20:18] <axslayer33> It doesn't seem to.
[20:20] <jfcl> insserv: warning: script 'avahi-dnsconfd' missing LSB tags and overrides - what would that mean?
[20:20] <jfcl> when I disabled postfix with systemctl I also got that error from systemctl
[20:22] <axslayer33> Also, if I can't remember root password, I assume those guides won't work?
[20:22] <Euphony> tomreyn I edited /etc/default/crda/ OK, but the "sudo modprobe rtl818x_pci" froze the system.
[20:22] <oerheks> axslayer33, did you choose to install with an encrypted home/system ?
[20:22] <aloo_shu> axslayer33 how is it you don't have the password?
[20:22] <axslayer33> @aloo_shu I haven't run this in about six months, I forget what they are
[20:23] <axslayer33> @oerheks I don't think so.
[20:23] <Euphony> tomreyn I edited /etc/default/crda/ OK, but the "sudo modprobe rtl818x_pci" froze the system.
[20:23] <oerheks> there is no rootpassword
[20:23] <oerheks> so you didn't try the guide, hmm?
[20:24] <axslayer33> I did. I select "drop into root shell prompt" and it says "give root password for maitenance or press Control-D to continue"
[20:24] <axslayer33> Ctrl+D just sends me back to the menu
[20:25] <axslayer33> if i could find the damn ubuntu .iso on my main laptop I wouldn't be having this problem >.>
[20:25] <Euphony> tomreyn And those bottom lines you brought to my attention are the first I'm seeing of the floppy drive errors (not that I had been looking). Not a high priority (for now, anyway)
[20:25] <aloo_shu> axslayer33 thats from mate live? try just hit return
[20:26] <axslayer33> that's from ubuntu recovery. Mate live failed to open gksu nautilus
[20:26] <axslayer33> Although I think I just found my original ubuntu iso.
[20:27] <Euphony> tomreyn Also, I unblacklisted the 3c59x driver ("#blacklist 3c59x"). Working OK...
[20:27] <aloo_shu> any live linux should work, axslayer33
[20:28] <axslayer33> Well I'll try it again in a minute
[20:28] <axslayer33> and if that doesn't work I may just reinstall.
[20:29] <aloo_shu> axslayer33 if there is no encryption, you will be able to salvage your files
[20:30] <axslayer33> Yup. Thankfully don't have to worry about that in this case, didn't have anything on it other than programs I can get back.
[20:30] <jhammons> Hi! Has anyone any idea what to do about this pulseaudio error in Ubuntu Artful?
[20:30] <jhammons> Aug 20 15:28:58 spectre pulseaudio[7860]: [pulseaudio] module.c: Module "module-switch-on-connect" should be loaded once at most. Refusing to load.
[20:30] <jhammons> Aug 20 15:28:58 spectre pulseaudio[7860]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Module load failed.
[20:30] <jhammons> Aug 20 15:28:58 spectre pulseaudio[7860]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
[20:30] <jhammons> Aug 20 15:28:58 spectre pulseaudio[7857]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[20:31] <tomreyn> Euphony: oh right good point about un-blacklisting the 3c59x. a pity the wireless don'T work out... maybe after bios update it would. but it's not an easy task to do that.
[20:32] <tomreyn> Euphony: here's the best explanation i could find https://www.fladi.at/posts/large-freedos-boot-image/
[20:33] <tomreyn> Euphony: and here's how you would add thta to the grub menu https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2040710&p=12167567#post12167567
[20:34] <emx> when i insert a usb drive i see it as a clickable icon in "Files" program. is there a way to have the same for a samba share?
[20:36] <aloo_shu> axslayer33 you will have to mount your old ubuntu partition, then go to a terminal and do sudo su . for live user, hopefully no password, just return, works. if not, say so
[20:43]  * fiord waves
[20:44] <AndrewGazelka> Hey
[20:44] <fiord> Hey, is it possible on Ubuntu (either with Compiz or something else) to switch workspaces independently when using multiple monitors?
[20:44] <fiord> For example, if my mouse or focused app is on the monitor to the right, and I switch workspaces, only that monitor switches.
[20:44] <fiord> I've heard xmonad can do it, but that it's a pain to work with.
[20:45] <AndrewGazelka> On an Elan Touchpad I have two physical buttons. I can also tap on the pad component to click. However, left clicking with a physical button seems to only activate drag and not click. Is there any way I could fix this / remap?
[21:26] <_Xenial_Xerus_> Is there any way to hide the topic display with freenode webchat?
[21:26] <_Xenial_Xerus_> It makes the window need be larger for watching the channel.
[21:31] <histo> _Xenial_Xerus_: maybe ask here https://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=dev
[21:42] <_Xenial_Xerus_> Do we want the spec sheet made using libreOffice?
[21:57] <_Xenial_Xerus_> You poor fools.
[21:57] <_Xenial_Xerus_> Where shall you find help?
[21:58] <_Xenial_Xerus_> Will you not hear my words?
[21:59] <EriC^^> _Xenial_Xerus_: aren't you supposed to say hear yee hear yee first?
[21:59] <_Xenial_Xerus_> Is that 1611 protocol?
[22:01] <_Xenial_Xerus_> EriC^^: Do you want to do this or only chatter?
[22:01] <EriC^^> do what?
[22:03] <oerheks> :-)
[22:03] <_Xenial_Xerus_> LET'S DO THIS
[22:04] <oerheks> !ot > _Xenial_Xerus_
[22:04] <Jordan_U> _Xenial_Xerus_: This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only. Please stick to that topic. This is your only warning.
[22:20] <_Xenial_Xerus_> have ubuntu modify the LUKS code so at install time the keys/headers are stored in /boot
[22:21] <_Xenial_Xerus_> you can do this locally on my system for paid service
[22:27] <demophobia> Why are there LoCo channels here? What region-specific needs exist?
[22:28] <EriC^^> language barriers?
[22:28] <oerheks> demophobia, language for instance, and loco groups like to hangout together too
[22:34] <Dreadstone> anyone familiar with the Ubuntu GNOME notification popup system?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> _Xenial_Xerus_: Looks like you're ban evading as well, and we don't appreciate that. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[22:51] <donofrio> getting these errors when I try startxfce4 - https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm7JmP8ZmaQiQ77NWfQ - anyone know how to fix 14.04 dist-upgrade'ed
[22:52] <oerheks> donofrio, is this on windows10/wsl ?
[22:53] <duzi> me and my friend are on the same subnet(both connected to internet). I am trying to set up samba on my ubuntu system so that he can access shares. How should I go about doing it?Note that we both are connected to the internet but are on the same subnet.
[22:54] <donofrio> oerheks, yes....
[22:54] <oerheks> donofrio,  then you know the answer.
[22:58] <oerheks> duzi, seen the ubuntu wiki ? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html
[22:59] <duzi> oerheks: Will just go through it. Thanks
[22:59] <oerheks> maybe this page with pics is a help too https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/samba-server-ubuntu-16-04/
[23:29] <BlueProtoman> I have a Windows Server 2016 server, and an Ubuntu laptop.  I want to mount this server's filesystem on my laptop, like NFS except I'm not choosy about the protocol or system.  Any suggestions?
[23:33] <strive> BlueProtoman: Have you looked into Samba?
[23:36] <duzi> oerheks: I would need to make my machine a ubuntu server. The tutorial has shown it for 17.04 but mine is xenial. How should I make it a server?
[23:37] <BlueProtoman> strive: No, is it easy to set up?