| jrwren | anyone ever play with docker swarm? | 12:57 |
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| rick_h | morning | 13:08 |
| rick_h | jrwren: not meaningfully tbh | 13:08 |
| jrwren | rick_h: it looks WAY easier to setup and run for a basement type setup than k8s | 13:10 |
| jrwren | rick_h: sometime this week I'll setup a few nodes and let you know :) | 13:10 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, it's based in basically | 13:10 |
| rick_h | jrwren: I know at one point the goal had been to have a swarm-like solution like k8s to support as an option, but it wasn't feature comparible and there wasn't the user ask for it vs k8s | 13:11 |
| jrwren | rick_h: do you mean canonical in that answer? | 13:12 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea | 13:12 |
| jrwren | *nod* makes sense. | 13:12 |
| jrwren | I think canonical chose wisely. k8s is blowing up. its the new open stack. | 13:12 |
| jrwren | openstack large growth is over AFAICT. It might continue to grow at a very small amount, but not like it was. | 13:13 |
| cmaloney | morning | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | yeah, seemes.k8s is the new "can't swing a dead cat withiut hitting" tech | 13:24 |
| jrwren | yup, and for good reason. it is damned awesome. | 13:25 |
| rick_h | cccccceefhftvjrkhfukicfnknfhifflfgvkhtnhcngk | 13:33 |
| rick_h | doh | 13:33 |
| cmaloney | gezundheit | 13:33 |
| rick_h | ty :P | 13:33 |
| cmaloney | I'm remembering why people hate Ansible: YAML and indentation sucks worse than Python | 13:35 |
| jrwren | yaml is very nice. indentation in it and python is great. | 13:41 |
| jrwren | yaml sucks for other reasons :p | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it's great, but it's also frustrating when you think you have the indentation right and haven't done YAML in a while. | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: What don't you like about YAML? | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | (other than the syntax errors are a pain to disgnose for indentation issues. ;) ) | 13:44 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: multiline strings, and implicit dictionary for any value that has a colon. | 13:44 |
| jrwren | key: https://www.google.com // in yaml this is not a key with a string value | 13:45 |
| jrwren | it is a key with a dict value wiht a key of https and value //www.google.com | 13:45 |
| jrwren | for something with goal of human readability, this is a failure. | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | That's what quotes are for. :) | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | you just reminded me of the parsing in PyYAML, where things got nested pretty deep in lists. | 13:47 |
| jrwren | yes, that is what quotes are for, but it fails the goal of human readable and writable format. | 13:52 |
| jrwren | the thing to remember about yaml is that it is just JSON in a different layout, one you get that the dict and list nesting makes complete sense. | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | Yeah | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | I still like it. Compared with XML it's a joy to use | 13:55 |
| jrwren | oh, well, if that is your comparison, then yes. its great. | 13:57 |
| cmaloney | I'm a simple man | 14:09 |
| cmaloney | http://elm-lang.org/papers/ <- nice 4040 page | 14:16 |
| jrwren | I think I'm going to buy my wife a Nikon D3400 for her birthday. I think I'll get the +$100 version with the 70-300mm lens in addition to the 18-55mm | 19:22 |
| jrwren | what does rick_h think? | 19:22 |
| jrwren | or any other camera enthusiasts. | 19:23 |
| rick_h | jrwren: hmm, not sure. I've not compared the entry dslr in a while. I'm a bit of a mirrorless fanbio I guess | 19:24 |
| rick_h | jrwren: no wifi :( | 19:24 |
| jrwren | nope, but bluetooth, which to iphone is probably perfect fo rher. | 19:26 |
| rick_h | jrwren: does it have an app to send photos over? | 19:28 |
| rick_h | jrwren: what's she looking to do? start getting into photography, better pics of the daughter? | 19:28 |
| jrwren | getting started. | 19:28 |
| jrwren | outgrow iphonography | 19:28 |
| jrwren | the BT thing is this: http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/snapbridge-app.page | 19:29 |
| jrwren | and she does like pulling it into lightroom on iphone, so this seems great. | 19:29 |
| rick_h | cool | 19:31 |
| rick_h | does it ship full photos or just reduced resolution ones? | 19:31 |
| jrwren | great question. I should check. | 19:32 |
| jrwren | I'd assume full these days, but you never knoew. | 19:32 |
| rick_h | yea, some cameras I've had only do smaller versions | 19:32 |
| jrwren | I have a shit wifi nikon that only ships smaller and I didn't know that before I bought it. | 19:32 |
| rick_h | wifi tends to do more since it's higher bandwidth. | 19:32 |
| jrwren | i mean, it is cheapo point and shoot, but still | 19:32 |
| rick_h | ah, heh there goes my assuming wifi > BT there | 19:32 |
| mrgoodcat | anybody got a pair of ANC headphones they recommend? | 19:33 |
| mrgoodcat | looking at bose qc25/qc35 or plantronics backbeat pro 2 right now | 19:33 |
| rick_h | mrgoodcat: I love my qc20 but they're wired and :/ if pixel doesn't have a port | 19:37 |
| rick_h | jrwren: so looking at dpreview it's getting a negative for wanting to manual control stuff and such | 19:38 |
| jrwren | https://www.shutterbug.com/content/nikon-d3400-dslr-review-snapbridge-wireless-connectivity-affordable-dslr sounds pretty sweet. | 19:38 |
| rick_h | jrwren: +1 to getting on nikon glass | 19:38 |
| jrwren | rick_h: the camera in general or that BT conn thing? | 19:39 |
| rick_h | jrwren: dxomark doesn't have feedback on the 70-300 so not sure how that is | 19:39 |
| rick_h | jrwren: the d3400 camera | 19:39 |
| jrwren | thanks. I'll go read that. | 19:40 |
| rick_h | I'll never understand the stupid nikon model numbers. 3300, 5600, 3400... | 19:40 |
| jrwren | its the wirecutter recommended entry level, so I'll have to compare the reasons. | 19:40 |
| rick_h | jrwren: gotcha | 19:40 |
| rick_h | jrwren: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d3400-review | 19:41 |
| rick_h | jrwren: https://goo.gl/UhY8nJ for the glass | 19:41 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h: yea i'm kinda ambivalent about wired. for now i'm happy with my pixel 1 but it won't last forever and i'll be a little annoyed if my headphones only last 2 years because my next phone doesn't have a jack | 19:43 |
| rick_h | mrgoodcat: yea, especially for the $$ NC headphones are | 19:44 |
| mrgoodcat | yea. the backbeat pro 2s get good reviews for a _relatively_ affordable price though | 19:44 |
| mrgoodcat | and wireless | 19:44 |
| rick_h | I've been looking at the wireless versions of my qc25s, but the NC is not up to snuff | 19:45 |
| mrgoodcat | on the 35s? | 19:45 |
| mrgoodcat | everything i've seen says the 35s have the best NC on the market | 19:45 |
| mrgoodcat | i've not used them yet though. a trip to best buy is in order fairly soon | 19:45 |
| rick_h | no the 30s | 19:46 |
| rick_h | sorry, I do earbuds since they pack a lot smaller | 19:46 |
| mrgoodcat | ah yea. I looked at some earbuds but for wearing all day at the office i'd rather have something more comfortable | 19:47 |
| mrgoodcat | we have a saddening combination of a training program for ~20 recent college grads, and a foosball table | 19:48 |
| mrgoodcat | i like foosball as much as the next guy but... | 19:48 |
| mrgoodcat | its time for some NC headphones | 19:48 |
| rick_h | jrwren: what about d5600? maybe used? | 19:48 |
| rick_h | jrwren: gets better reviews on dpreview it looks like and in nikon glass. Little bit more but maybe can get a used one from someone upgrading | 19:49 |
| cmaloney | NC headphones are overrated | 19:51 |
| cmaloney | Just get something that closes off the ear canal and you're good | 19:51 |
| jrwren | rick_h: maybe... and now i think i should consider mirrorless too | 19:52 |
| rick_h | Consider mirrorless and I'll say I love my Sony's and I'm happy to have moved there from Olympus. | 19:53 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: i would have thought so too before this foosball table entered my life | 20:11 |
| mrgoodcat | i've had sony a57, a100, and a700. none of them have disappointed me | 20:12 |
| jrwren | rick_h: kinda seems like entry level sony a5000 is a way better choice for her. | 20:23 |
| rick_h | jrwren: 6000 or 6300 ftw | 20:28 |
| jrwren | why? | 20:28 |
| jrwren | i think you are probably right. | 20:29 |
| jrwren | I mean... why buy entry level when you can go midrange for twice the price. :) | 20:33 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, I'm biased as I'm a long way down the rabbit hole so my feedback, as someone that's bought a few cameras, is that the higher you can jump up the ladder the better off you'll be long time | 20:53 |
| rick_h | long term | 20:53 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, the classifieds are full of folks that didn't buy good enough | 21:12 |
| cmaloney | might even see if you can find something used | 21:12 |
| jrwren | I think reading and rick_h has me convinced of 6300 | 21:14 |
| jrwren | rick_h has finer states than me, but if I can't convince myself that lesser will do, then I think I have to go for the good stuff. | 21:14 |
| rick_h | happy to be a bad influence if it all works out, otherwise I had nothing to do with it :P | 21:16 |
| greg-g | team member's photos: https://tylercipriani.com/photos/solar-eclipse/ | 22:11 |
| rick_h | Nice | 22:12 |
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