[12:57] anyone ever play with docker swarm? [13:08] morning [13:08] jrwren: not meaningfully tbh [13:10] rick_h: it looks WAY easier to setup and run for a basement type setup than k8s [13:10] rick_h: sometime this week I'll setup a few nodes and let you know :) [13:10] jrwren: yea, it's based in basically [13:11] jrwren: I know at one point the goal had been to have a swarm-like solution like k8s to support as an option, but it wasn't feature comparible and there wasn't the user ask for it vs k8s [13:12] rick_h: do you mean canonical in that answer? [13:12] jrwren: yea [13:12] *nod* makes sense. [13:12] I think canonical chose wisely. k8s is blowing up. its the new open stack. [13:13] openstack large growth is over AFAICT. It might continue to grow at a very small amount, but not like it was. [13:23] morning [13:24] yeah, seemes.k8s is the new "can't swing a dead cat withiut hitting" tech [13:25] yup, and for good reason. it is damned awesome. [13:33] cccccceefhftvjrkhfukicfnknfhifflfgvkhtnhcngk [13:33] doh [13:33] gezundheit [13:33] ty :P [13:35] I'm remembering why people hate Ansible: YAML and indentation sucks worse than Python [13:41] yaml is very nice. indentation in it and python is great. [13:41] yaml sucks for other reasons :p [13:43] Yeah, it's great, but it's also frustrating when you think you have the indentation right and haven't done YAML in a while. [13:43] jrwren: What don't you like about YAML? [13:44] (other than the syntax errors are a pain to disgnose for indentation issues. ;) ) [13:44] cmaloney: multiline strings, and implicit dictionary for any value that has a colon. [13:45] key: https://www.google.com // in yaml this is not a key with a string value [13:45] it is a key with a dict value wiht a key of https and value //www.google.com [13:45] for something with goal of human readability, this is a failure. [13:45] That's what quotes are for. :) [13:47] you just reminded me of the parsing in PyYAML, where things got nested pretty deep in lists. [13:52] yes, that is what quotes are for, but it fails the goal of human readable and writable format. [13:52] the thing to remember about yaml is that it is just JSON in a different layout, one you get that the dict and list nesting makes complete sense. [13:55] Yeah [13:55] I still like it. Compared with XML it's a joy to use [13:57] oh, well, if that is your comparison, then yes. its great. [14:09] I'm a simple man [14:16] http://elm-lang.org/papers/ <- nice 4040 page [19:22] I think I'm going to buy my wife a Nikon D3400 for her birthday. I think I'll get the +$100 version with the 70-300mm lens in addition to the 18-55mm [19:22] what does rick_h think? [19:23] or any other camera enthusiasts. [19:24] jrwren: hmm, not sure. I've not compared the entry dslr in a while. I'm a bit of a mirrorless fanbio I guess [19:24] jrwren: no wifi :( [19:26] nope, but bluetooth, which to iphone is probably perfect fo rher. [19:28] jrwren: does it have an app to send photos over? [19:28] jrwren: what's she looking to do? start getting into photography, better pics of the daughter? [19:28] getting started. [19:28] outgrow iphonography [19:29] the BT thing is this: http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/snapbridge-app.page [19:29] and she does like pulling it into lightroom on iphone, so this seems great. [19:31] cool [19:31] does it ship full photos or just reduced resolution ones? [19:32] great question. I should check. [19:32] I'd assume full these days, but you never knoew. [19:32] yea, some cameras I've had only do smaller versions [19:32] I have a shit wifi nikon that only ships smaller and I didn't know that before I bought it. [19:32] wifi tends to do more since it's higher bandwidth. [19:32] i mean, it is cheapo point and shoot, but still [19:32] ah, heh there goes my assuming wifi > BT there [19:33] anybody got a pair of ANC headphones they recommend? [19:33] looking at bose qc25/qc35 or plantronics backbeat pro 2 right now [19:37] mrgoodcat: I love my qc20 but they're wired and :/ if pixel doesn't have a port [19:38] jrwren: so looking at dpreview it's getting a negative for wanting to manual control stuff and such [19:38] https://www.shutterbug.com/content/nikon-d3400-dslr-review-snapbridge-wireless-connectivity-affordable-dslr sounds pretty sweet. [19:38] jrwren: +1 to getting on nikon glass [19:39] rick_h: the camera in general or that BT conn thing? [19:39] jrwren: dxomark doesn't have feedback on the 70-300 so not sure how that is [19:39] jrwren: the d3400 camera [19:40] thanks. I'll go read that. [19:40] I'll never understand the stupid nikon model numbers. 3300, 5600, 3400... [19:40] its the wirecutter recommended entry level, so I'll have to compare the reasons. [19:40] jrwren: gotcha [19:41] jrwren: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d3400-review [19:41] jrwren: https://goo.gl/UhY8nJ for the glass [19:43] rick_h: yea i'm kinda ambivalent about wired. for now i'm happy with my pixel 1 but it won't last forever and i'll be a little annoyed if my headphones only last 2 years because my next phone doesn't have a jack [19:44] mrgoodcat: yea, especially for the $$ NC headphones are [19:44] yea. the backbeat pro 2s get good reviews for a _relatively_ affordable price though [19:44] and wireless [19:45] I've been looking at the wireless versions of my qc25s, but the NC is not up to snuff [19:45] on the 35s? [19:45] everything i've seen says the 35s have the best NC on the market [19:45] i've not used them yet though. a trip to best buy is in order fairly soon [19:46] no the 30s [19:46] sorry, I do earbuds since they pack a lot smaller [19:47] ah yea. I looked at some earbuds but for wearing all day at the office i'd rather have something more comfortable [19:48] we have a saddening combination of a training program for ~20 recent college grads, and a foosball table [19:48] i like foosball as much as the next guy but... [19:48] its time for some NC headphones [19:48] jrwren: what about d5600? maybe used? [19:49] jrwren: gets better reviews on dpreview it looks like and in nikon glass. Little bit more but maybe can get a used one from someone upgrading [19:51] NC headphones are overrated [19:51] Just get something that closes off the ear canal and you're good [19:52] rick_h: maybe... and now i think i should consider mirrorless too [19:53] Consider mirrorless and I'll say I love my Sony's and I'm happy to have moved there from Olympus. [20:11] cmaloney: i would have thought so too before this foosball table entered my life [20:12] i've had sony a57, a100, and a700. none of them have disappointed me [20:23] rick_h: kinda seems like entry level sony a5000 is a way better choice for her. [20:28] jrwren: 6000 or 6300 ftw [20:28] why? [20:29] i think you are probably right. [20:33] I mean... why buy entry level when you can go midrange for twice the price. :) [20:53] jrwren: yea, I'm biased as I'm a long way down the rabbit hole so my feedback, as someone that's bought a few cameras, is that the higher you can jump up the ladder the better off you'll be long time [20:53] long term [21:12] Yeah, the classifieds are full of folks that didn't buy good enough [21:12] might even see if you can find something used [21:14] I think reading and rick_h has me convinced of 6300 [21:14] rick_h has finer states than me, but if I can't convince myself that lesser will do, then I think I have to go for the good stuff. [21:16] happy to be a bad influence if it all works out, otherwise I had nothing to do with it :P [22:11] team member's photos: https://tylercipriani.com/photos/solar-eclipse/ [22:12] Nice