[00:13] nagios packages need an update, zesty still ships with nagios3 [01:35] yeah, I keep compiling it from sources, altho I also keep trying to find an alternative, the web interface just drives me nuts [01:36] and the fact that after so long you still have to deal with a sucky json api isn't ideal (altho at least there's one finally) [01:36] but then it still seems to be the best of the pack... need to give icinga another shot [03:16] https://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up/issues/11 what is the reason I run into this? ubuntu 16.04, conjure-up 2.3-alpha1 === disposable3 is now known as disposable2 [05:33] nacc: they are in the done lane I'd think [05:35] nacc: arr pad, I promise I moved them 2 done one with comment being a merge still [05:35] doing again [05:41] good mornign btw [05:53] nacc: I'm undecided and want some consensus on the question sync or merge [05:53] since the merge is trivial I'll provide one, open a bug for discussion and will pass it to you in a few minutes [05:54] lets discuss on that later today then with the Team [06:17] nacc: ok all sorted out - ready for review in https://trello.com/c/azsZdLmL [06:17] TL;DR: a merge this cycle a sync next cycle as the change is now upstream [08:14] Good morning [09:58] hello, changing the value "/sys/module/zfs/parameters/zfs_arc_max" doesn't change the arc_size anymore on ubuntu xenial with zfs 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu17, how can I change the max arc_size? === clvx is now known as Guest92298 === _ruben_ is now known as _ruben [13:46] rbasak, i'm sure you've thought of this.. [13:46] with the git-ubuntu stuff. [13:47] when we have a delta, should we update the Vcs-Browser and Vcs-git fields in debian/control [13:47] then 'debcheckout' will just work, which is quite nice. [13:47] i guess we could also then either [13:48] a.) modify debcheckout to use 'git ubuntu clone' [13:48] b.) modify debcheckout to do a git ubuntu clone in the absense of a Vcs tag [14:51] Is it possible to have a unprivileged container system on Ubuntu? [14:51] Or rather just a chroot really [14:51] something like proot, but working [14:51] proot doesn't work very well for some situations, for some reason i haven't diagnosed yet [15:23] oops i broke my internet today xD [15:24] teward: still available to chair the meeting this week? [15:25] dpb1: yeah [15:25] teward: OK, I'll let you do it, and will move you to the front of the list [15:25] teward: thanks. :) [15:25] first time charing heh [15:25] chairing* [15:25] it's not hard though :p [15:25] teward: we'll be there to help [15:25] nacc: is there a new update I missed? [15:25] nacc: 1.12.1-0ubuntu2 is already in Artful, that's latest stable + merges from Debian [15:25] so that's 'done' [15:26] turns out that bubblewrap does what i want, i'll give it a few spins [15:26] teward: debian has 1.13.3-1 [15:26] nacc: they're tracking Mainline [15:26] we're tracking Stable [15:26] teward: ok, i was going off rbasak's script [15:26] do we *want* to track Mainline which is under active development? [15:26] teward: which is just looking at what's different between ubuntu & debian [15:26] nacc: when B-series opens I'll switch to Mainline. [15:26] teward: sounds good [15:27] because then right after B-series or right before B-series release we'll get in the updated Stable [15:27] like we did for 16.04 [15:27] (1.14.x releases at about the same time we release B series) [15:27] dpb1: got a handy link to the previous meeting notes? [15:27] or did we update this already on the main agenda page [15:27] teward: start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [15:28] got it, thanks [15:30] teward: basically, we converted it to cut-and-paste, so it should be easier [15:30] even better :D [15:30] thanks. [15:30] *yawns* I need coffee, back in a minute [15:30] 30minutes to go to the meeting right? [15:34] teward: yep [15:35] cool [15:36] teward: the hardest part is the sending out of notes after, but it should all be in that page, and it's really just taking 5-10 minutes to follow it [15:36] nacc: FWIW and I should probably document this. I track NGINX Stable up until the opening of the next LTS for development. Then I switch to Mainline, with the goal of a right-before-release or just-after-release update to the latest Stable which is pretty much a verion-string-only change update. [15:36] we have precedent for this in 16.04 [15:37] teward: yep, that's fine -- i just wanted to "be sure" so i can take it off our list [15:37] nacc: yep, no problem. Still sticking to the 'old school' methods for nginx, but it works for now so :P [15:37] merges are hard when Debian tracks one version and we track another xD [15:37] (Mainline also introduces evils like new features under active development, I'm not a fan of that so...) [15:38] teward: +1 thanks [15:38] (Mainline users can use the PPA if they want the latest stuff heh) [15:38] yep [15:38] well i didn't find coffee... [15:38] but I found mountain dew. [15:38] just as decent :P [15:38] gross [15:39] :) [15:39] lol [15:39] nacc: better than the sludge that campus sells... [15:40] it's literally undrinkable that stuff [15:40] i'd rather not die from sludge-coffee thanks. [15:40] mmm sludge-coffee [15:41] teward: which school are you at again? and yeah, i'd be leave it, regardless of the school :) [15:41] nacc: Penn State Harrisburg, Harrisburg, PA. [15:41] but only for this one last semester [15:41] then I graduate and have a full-time job lined up. [15:41] yay for employment [15:41] teward: nice! [15:45] 15 minutes to meeting [15:55] 5m " " " [15:55] :) [15:56] ^ that [15:56] thanks dpb1 [15:57] hehe [15:58] 2 minutes. [15:58] though i might give an extra minute for people to show up :p [16:00] wise choice [16:38] teward: if you need any help on post-meeting tasks, just ask [16:38] rbasak: i'm tasking you with following up on https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/samba/+git/samba/+merge/326073 [16:39] rbasak: specifically what to do with an indepenently sponsored change [16:40] nacc: what does "independently sponsored change" mean? (the term) [16:41] dpb1: not using our git workflow [16:41] ah [16:41] dpb1: it was sponsored by debdiff outside of git [16:41] dpb1: so it's already been uploaded [16:41] dpb1: it goes down to the semantics of the upload tags [16:41] so, the importer would just suck in a new one after it hits LP [16:41] ? [16:42] do they represent the act of uploading/sponsoring? or do they represent any history any developer provides [16:42] the latter is risky because it means no hash stability [16:42] hmm [16:42] we're in an in-between state right now, though, where we haven't declared hash stability :) [16:42] right [16:42] well not 'no' [16:42] til there is an mmm in channel [16:42] just less easily assured [16:43] and i'd like rbasak to help remind me what we decided to do, because i can't recall [16:43] * dpb1 nods [16:43] eventually, we won't tag things like this [16:43] ok [16:43] but i don't want to lose this particular history, if we decided to keep it [16:44] but i also don't want it in the active reviews, because .. it's not :) [16:47] dpb1: I think I'm good, just completed them while my computer finishes kernel updates :P [16:48] thanks though :) [16:48] and thank you guys for letting me chair :) [16:57] teward: thx for being willing. see you there in.... 2 months maybe? :) [17:16] dpb1: heh sounds good :P [18:02] ps doesnt give a start in epoc for a proc does it === JanC is now known as Guest23196 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:39] nacc: question if you have a moment. libpam-ldap has been carrying a delta for about 10 years where it removed "etc/" from debian/libpam-ldap.dirs [18:39] with no furhter explanation [18:40] I presume it's because that directory is always present on a system why it was removed [18:41] that file is for dh_installdirs, right? [18:52] Hello, does anyone here know much about RDMA, specifically what one would look for on a system to know if it was available? [18:53] fginther: rdma over ethernet or infiniband? [18:54] sarnold, let's say infiniband [18:54] might need to know both, but I'll start with infiniband [18:55] fginther: I believe what you're looking for is svcrdma -- https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfs-rdma.txt has some pointers [18:57] sarnold, thanks, I'll give that a read through [18:57] fginther: that may or may not be specific to rdma for nfs; I never found out if samba does the windows-compatible rdma with SMB or not.. [18:57] there's a chance VERBS-native applications don't need to do anything special; I never made it very far down that path [18:57] ah, that's build time (wrt my .dirs question) [18:58] sarnold, I'll see where this gets me [18:58] thanks [20:50] hi [20:50] for some weird reason I can connect to github via port 443 [20:50] firewall does not block it [20:50] nothing in syslog [20:50] what can it be? [20:53] * hehehe gets out a sleeping bag and a tent [20:53] :))) [20:56] hehehe: why is it weird to connect to github [20:56] * dpb1 is afraid to ask [20:56] sorry * cant [20:56] lol [20:56] typo [20:56] for some reason it seems I cant connect to any sites on port 443 from the box [20:57] probabaly firewall [20:57] occam razor [21:00] yep [21:00] I am acting too fast [21:00] for my comprehension skills [21:01] what you been upto db1? [21:01] dpb1: [21:02] is there a channel where people talk about what kind of new open source projects could be done? [21:02] hm [21:03] interesting question, I'm not sure. :) [21:03] sounds like reddit futurology [21:03] I've been ok, how about you hehehe [21:04] had wild chat [21:04] :) [21:04] and eat pizza [21:05] sounds like a complete day [21:10] hehe [21:11] now I also plan to see what happen to my server [21:11] I think I better off loging my commands [21:11] sometimes when i am sleepy and in a rush [21:11] it can get messy [21:14] i set nginx to auto redirect all requests to http - however when installing new version of app - I get info will be sent over insecure connection and then I am stuck on step 1 [21:14] maybe setup tries to reach http server and if there are none fails> [21:14] ? [21:18] https://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up/issues/11 what is the reason I run into this? ubuntu 16.04, conjure-up 2.3-alpha1 I always feel like its my fault that I have missed something but I cant figure it out. [21:19] BrazierCustoms: usually indicates there are some issues with the networking setup in openstack [21:20] @stokachu I noticed the ntp service says waiting in juju status [21:21] behind a firewall? [21:22] on the physical machine? [21:23] no [21:23] all the virtual is conjure-up default. localhost install [21:25] BrazierCustoms: so you can `juju ssh nova-cloud-controller/0` and `source novarc` and start looking around the neutron items [21:25] BrazierCustoms: you can double check things like `neutron net-show ext-net` [21:25] or `neutron subnet-show ext-subnet` make sure all that lines up with your network setup [21:26] BrazierCustoms: there is a potential problem where the second network bridge doesn't line up with `neutron subnet-show ubuntu-subnet` [21:27] @stokachu ok, i'll look into it. I gotta run right now but I will leave this running. anything that helps, I so want to get this running but I keep hitting problems :( [21:27] ill be bACK in a few hours [21:27] BrazierCustoms: i should be online tonight, just ping me [21:27] 10-4 === giraffe is now known as Guest54652 [21:37] * Update Build-Depends to use libssl1.0-dev and [21:37] default-libmysqlclient-dev. (Closes: #846569, #836312) [21:38] do we have a default-libmysqlclient-dev package? I can't seem to find it [21:38] ahasenack: any idea about my issue .. lol [21:38] here is a relevant code https://github.com/opencart/opencart/blob/2.2.0.0/upload/install/index.php [21:38] seems like it should work over https [21:39] hehehe: sorry, no php foo lives in me [21:40] :D [21:40] which language do you use? [21:41] !info default-libmysqlclient-dev artful [21:41] default-libmysqlclient-dev (source: mysql-defaults): MySQL database development files (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.2ubuntu1 (artful), package size 3 kB, installed size 9 kB [21:41] ahasenack: --^ [21:41] ahasenack: how did you search for it? i see it in apt (on artful) and rmadison [21:41] nacc: apt-cache, but on xenial [21:42] ahasenack: right, only exists in 17.04 and on [21:42] nacc: I found this construct in another package that build-depends on mysql: [21:42] default-libmysqlclient-dev | libmysqlclient-dev, [21:42] ahasenack: you have chdist set up? [21:42] ahasenack: right, presumably for backwards-compatibility [21:42] ok, we don't need a delta for this then [21:42] I'll look chdist up [21:42] rmadison would have been my follow-up attempt [21:42] ahasenack: it's a way to have multiple apt repos setup by distro/pocket [21:43] ahasenack: thing is it worked before lol [21:43] different version of an app [22:11] nacc: I think there's always going to be a race between upload tags and getting the importer to adopt them. Until we can supersede dput. [22:11] nacc: so I think it's an acceptable state of affairs for an upload tag to be present even if the importer missed it. [22:11] nacc: to get hash stability, we need the original publications, plus a yay/nay against every upload tag as to whether it was originally included. I think that's OK. [22:32] rbasak: right, but i don't think we had decided how to implement that part [22:32] the yay/nay per upload tag [22:32] rbasak: so i still leave it up to you to deal with that MP :) [22:58] nacc: ack [23:00] rbasak: presumably with a choice of tag it or not, and then a bug filed for how to deal with the yay/nay for 1.0 :) [23:00] Yep! [23:26] @stokachu are you're in NC? think I saw that somewhere.. I am. Winston-Salem.. [23:26] BrazierCustoms: yea im in nc [23:27] what area? [23:27] im in rolesville [23:29] oh ok. near raliegh. bout 2.25 hours from me. [23:29] yea, not to far :) [23:33] @stokachu ubuntu@juju-80a452-12:~$ neutron net-show ext-net [23:33] An auth plugin is required to fetch a token [23:33] BrazierCustoms: did you `source novarc` first? [23:34] @stokachu sorry, missed that one [23:36] rbasak: whew, i think i finally have the code in a place that is functionally equivalent to master :) [23:40] @stokachu sorry I'm also on vacation at myrtle beach and things are slow here [23:42] @stokachu neutron net-show ext-net | pastebinit [23:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25373185/ [23:43] @stokachu neutron subnet-show ubuntu-subnet | pastebinit [23:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25373199/ [23:47] BrazierCustoms: whats lxc network list on the host show? [23:47] where you ran conjure-up === drab_ is now known as drab [23:48] stokachu error: unknown command: network [23:49] ah right [23:49] conjure-up.lxc network list [23:49] i was about to ask lol [23:49] actually fixing that this week [23:49] good :) [23:49] it's caused more harm than good [23:50] brb about 10 minutes [23:50] well I understood that. I'm having probs with everything else :P === hehehe is now known as princeking [23:51] conjure-up.lxc network list | pastebinit [23:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25373232/ [23:52] stokachu ^^