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stokachuback00:05
stokachuBrazierCustoms: ok whats output of `ip addr`00:06
BrazierCustomsstokachu http://paste.ubuntu.com/25373307/00:09
stokachuBrazierCustoms: ok, need to update the neutron ubuntu-subnet to use 10.169.101.1/24  instead of 10.101.0.100:11
stokachuBrazierCustoms: thats what im fixing this week00:11
stokachuBrazierCustoms: https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/blob/dc937ff23a173f592681918903d02745413ed558/openstack-novalxd/steps/share/neutron.sh#L36-L38 thats what you need to do00:12
stokachureplace 10.101.0.0/24 with 10.169.101.1/2400:12
BrazierCustomsstokachu oh so its not me? lol00:12
stokachuoh and ext-net too00:12
stokachuBrazierCustoms: yea it's not you00:13
stokachui should have this fixed in the next day or so00:13
stokachuyou able to wait until then?00:13
BrazierCustomsi guess, im on vacay anyway, why is it I have this prob? I dont see 100 other ppl posting about it..00:14
BrazierCustomsive been dealing with it since last time we spoke..00:15
stokachuBrazierCustoms: yea not sure why more people dont post about it00:16
stokachuBrazierCustoms: it's definitely broken though00:16
stokachuBrazierCustoms: a lot of users use the openstack base with maas00:16
stokachuso they have to configure it all themselves anyway00:16
BrazierCustoms&also would this cause juju to freeze and "try was stopped" after trying to create an instance?00:16
stokachuBrazierCustoms: yea there are various other issues with localhost that im fixing00:17
BrazierCustomsive had this happen a few times too.00:17
BrazierCustomsoh ok00:17
stokachuyea it is my focus this week to iron all that out00:17
BrazierCustomsso you saying very few ppl using the conjure-up method?00:18
stokachuBrazierCustoms: heh, no that's not what im saying00:18
stokachuthere are 2 different spells, one uses MAAS the other localhost00:18
BrazierCustomsI dont have enogh experience to set up everything.00:18
stokachua lot of production users use maas00:18
stokachuyea localhost is for you, i just need to fix it :)00:19
BrazierCustomswell.. this isnt production until i can figure it out :P00:19
BrazierCustomslol so I'm a lone localhoster lol00:19
stokachuBrazierCustoms: yep, hang out in this channel and ill ping you when i have something for you to test00:19
stokachuBrazierCustoms: well also a lot of our focus has been on kubernetes recently00:20
BrazierCustomsshould I switch?00:20
BrazierCustomsI dont know much about most of it. but I want to learn. but its hard to tell the difference between me goofing up and BROKEN when you arent 100% sure how alot of it is working..00:21
stokachuyea understood, i guess the question is what are you trying to do?00:22
stokachuis this just for learning?00:22
BrazierCustomsstokachu, mostly. but I have some private network reasons to play :)00:22
BrazierCustomsI really just want the controller and the instances to work..00:23
stokachuBrazierCustoms: yea understood, ill fix that :)00:24
stokachujust need a couple days00:24
BrazierCustomsso the only reason this doesnt work is because its local host?00:24
stokachuBrazierCustoms: no the network is misconfigured for neutron00:25
stokachuthats the only piece that is broken00:25
BrazierCustomsI guess what i am asking is what caused it to misconfigure?00:25
stokachuBrazierCustoms: right now we use the auto option when creating lxc network bridges, and in our spell we made the assumption we always control the network bridge network and set it to a fixed value00:26
stokachuBrazierCustoms: https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/76 and https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/66 need to be fixed00:28
stokachuand https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/5000:28
stokachusubscribe to those issues, im going to go back to working on this lxd stuff00:29
BrazierCustomsah.ok. I will try to keep irc active on my mobile. thanks for your help, I been banging my head.00:31
stokachuBrazierCustoms: np, you can also hop back on https://rocket.ubuntu.com/channel/conjure-up if that's easier from your phone00:34
BrazierCustomsstocachu, it dont matter, I have android irc on the mobile :)00:36
braziercustoms-m<<<<-Stokachu :D00:43
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: you missed nothing while you were away00:47
stokachulol00:51
braziercustoms-mSarnold I'm sure lol there is so much to talk about though..00:53
braziercustoms-mSarnold what do you do?01:07
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: I'm on the security team; I do the standard 'job rotation' duties and main include review audits (well, we call them audits, but they're way too quick to really be _audits_)01:08
braziercustoms-mSarnold security watch for contributions?01:12
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: we sponsor updates for universe packages that community members prepare and test https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures01:14
braziercustoms-mSarnold Wow. Love it. So many things to know. I get lost in what I want to learn :D01:30
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: likewise, I've been meaning to play with conjure-up for a few months now. hehe.01:31
braziercustoms-mSarnold I'm the kind of person who starts reading one thing and ends up with 5ptabs open.01:32
braziercustoms-m50 tabs open01:32
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: aye. I've got that too. 30+ tabs on my phone and 235 on my desktop.01:33
braziercustoms-mOh so I'm in the right asylum? Lol01:33
sarnoldlol01:34
braziercustoms-mI need a bubble map for conjure-up. I think I'm confused about what's controlling what.. I've had a lot of issues some my mistake/ some I spent countless hours trying to figure out if it was my mistake.  Thank goodness for ppl like you and stokachu for clarifying...01:38
sarnoldmostly stokachu, hehe01:38
braziercustoms-mSarnold I feel like you have helped me in the past somewhere..01:41
braziercustoms-mLol there went my hotel connection lol01:41
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: heh your nick is certainly familiar but I can only recall conjure-up questions..01:41
braziercustoms-mSarnold have you ever done anything I debian channel?01:43
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: not #debian itself, that's way too chaotic for me01:43
sarnoldI like quiet irc clients :)01:43
braziercustoms-mLol01:44
braziercustoms-msarnold I come here sometimes just in hopes to catch someone talking about something I need to know :P I rarely catch much.01:48
sarnoldbraziercustoms-m: yeah, #ubuntu might be better for that, except it's also drinking-from-a-firehose levels of traffic01:49
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braziercustoms-mSarnold As far as virtual hosting I'm somewhat of a noob. Someone helped me with some vservers stuff and some other login security issues, but it was debian.01:54
BrazierCustomsstokachu i may try your "you need to do this" link from earlier. I guess when its done I need to re- conjure-up a cloud? or can I just restart something?02:22
stokachuyea you would re-run conjure-up02:32
BrazierCustomsstokachu, ok thanks02:37
BrazierCustomsstokachu in the process of conjure-up now04:15
BrazierCustomsstokachu this put me back to "cannot retrieve charm blah blah" during conjure-up04:22
BrazierCustomsthis was the problem I was having last time we spoke.04:23
madLyfewhen installing server it detects drives to install to. i have two of the exact same usb keys, one empty and one with the ubuntu server iso on it to install from. will the installer ever ask me to install to the installer usb key?04:58
madLyfelike if it cant detect another empty usb key, does it detect itself?05:07
cpaelzergood morning05:34
madLyfetrying to get this USB hub/ethernet adapter working on server05:53
madLyfehave no idea05:53
lordievaderGood morning06:15
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madLyfeany of you guys know how to get a usb hub/ethernet adapter working?06:26
madLyfei dont even think its recognized. it works in windows so i know its not borked.06:26
cpaelzermadLyfe: it depends a lot on the chipset used in it06:28
cpaelzermadLyfe: you need to hangle through the stages it need to initialize correctly and see where it breaks06:28
cpaelzermadLyfe: so lsusb if it shows up at all (and under which type)06:28
cpaelzermadLyfe: then dmesg on plugging it if it recognized it as network, ...06:29
madLyfei dont think it shows up under lsusb06:29
cpaelzeraskubuntu is full of cases like this but it always depends on the exact device type06:29
cpaelzermadLyfe: well even if not supported it should show up there06:29
cpaelzermadLyfe: so unplug, sudo lsub > before; plug sudo lsub > after; diff -Naur before after = empty?06:30
cpaelzerif not there it seems more like an electrical issue than anything else and since you say it works in windows ...06:30
cpaelzerat least I never seen anything (but broken devices) to not show up06:30
cpaelzerlike a usb disk with a motor damage I once had06:30
madLyfelsub is correct?06:31
cpaelzerlsusb06:31
cpaelzersorry, typing and talking here06:31
madLyfeya i get the same output as before i removed it06:31
cpaelzerhmm, odd06:31
cpaelzerand if you run sudo dmesg -w in another console06:32
cpaelzeris ther eanything happening on plug/unplug/plug ?06:32
madLyfei dunno. im on server.06:32
cpaelzermadLyfe: sorry - how is the sevrer preventing you from checking dmesg?06:33
madLyfeits not. i just unplugged it and ran sudo dmesg -w06:33
madLyfeit did a ton of scrolling and is now stopped with a blinking cursor06:34
cpaelzerthe -w is just meant to wait interactively so you can see exactly what is from the unplug/plug06:34
cpaelzerif you only have one session you can run a normal dmesg and report the tail of it06:34
lordievaderPerhaps watching udev makes more sense at this point.06:34
madLyfei just plugged it back in, what should i do next?06:35
lordievader`sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev`06:35
cpaelzerlordievader: would it show up in udev if it is not appearing in dmesg nor lsub ?06:35
cpaelzermadLyfe: for lordievader and my sugegstion you'd better need more sessions06:35
lordievaderThere are cases, yes.06:35
cpaelzercan you ssh in with a second session06:35
cpaelzer?06:35
madLyfeno ethernet lol06:35
madLyfeneed this dongle for that06:35
cpaelzerso you are on what atm - the serial console?06:36
madLyfei think so?06:36
madLyfelol06:36
cpaelzeryou can still get further sessions with ctrl-alt-f1 - ctrl-alt-f506:36
madLyfelogged into it with my username and password06:36
cpaelzerlog on the f2 one and do the udev watch that lordievader recommended; log onto the f3 one and do the sudo dmesg -w06:37
cpaelzerthen unplug/plug06:37
cpaelzerthen report back what you got on these two06:37
madLyfenot sure how to report it06:40
madLyfehow do i scroll up again?06:40
madLyfeGenesysLogic_USB.0_Hub looks like the ID-SERIAL06:41
lordievaderThe exact content of the udev command does not matter.06:41
lordievaderAs long as text flies by it means the kernel sees a device.06:41
madLyfeya it did06:41
lordievaderOkay, so it is detected. Anything from the dmesg command?06:42
madLyfeya06:43
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8L8oafLX/irccloudcapture621505530.jpg06:44
madLyfenot sure how to get you all the output06:44
lordievaderThose things in red are your problem.06:47
lordievaderInterestingly it does try to load a module (r8152).06:47
lordievaderI'd lookup what chip is in there and see if there is a linux driver available.06:48
madLyfewell was it getting the realtek driver? because the hub has ethernet as well06:51
lordievaderr8152 sounds like realtek, yes. What do you mean with the hub?06:51
madLyfewith the hub?06:52
lordievader"because the hub has ethernet as well" what hub?06:52
madLyfethis is a usb hub/ethernet adapter06:54
cpaelzerin one device you mean?06:54
madLyfehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Ports-USB-3-0-Hub-Gigabit-Ethernet-Lan-RJ45-Network-Adapter-to-1000Mbps-Mac-PC-/26266857276206:54
madLyfeya06:54
lordievaderAh, right.06:55
lordievaderTry to find out what kind of chip is in there.06:56
madLyfething didnt really come with any info. hmm07:00
cpaelzerIIRC I had once something like that with a hub that was optionally powered and I got this when plugging without external power07:00
cpaelzerbut this doesn't seem to have external pwr07:01
cpaelzermaybe this still is some over-current protection at work, .. hmm07:01
cpaelzerThere are plenty of issues like this in the web, but they mostly end at bad HW07:02
madLyfeya there is no external power07:02
cpaelzersince you have no external power madLyfe, might your server have old/new usb ports with some having more power?07:02
madLyfethis is actually a blade07:02
madLyfeim running it off of the front SUV cable07:02
madLyfeSUV I/O cable07:03
cpaelzerthat might even be USB 1.1 or so07:03
cpaelzerdepending on the age (or not) of the blade07:03
cpaelzercenter07:03
madLyfeits a G707:03
madLyfe2014 is the bios date if i remember correctly07:03
cpaelzerbut looking at your dmesg, it tries to initialize 2-3.4 even after the issue in red07:04
cpaelzerand I found other posts stating the same07:04
cpaelzerso maybe after all your actual issue is the "Unknown Device" in the realtek driver07:04
lordievadermadLyfe: Does it work on a recent linux laptop or something?07:04
cpaelzerwhich gets you back to analyze what chip exactly is used and if there is something for it07:04
madLyfeit works on windows is all i know. dont run nix other than ubuntu server for my miners.07:05
lordievaderPerhaps Windows can tell you what chip is in there.07:05
madLyfewell here it is in windows: http://i.imgur.com/AWIueu5.png07:06
madLyferealtek USB GbE family Controller07:06
lordievaderSearch through the driver info for a chipset model.07:07
madLyfehttp://i.imgur.com/6sBIZph.png07:08
lordievaderI was more refering to the details tab ;)07:10
madLyfeya im going through the whole list to see what would help out here07:10
madLyfehttp://i.imgur.com/K1IGARK.png07:12
madLyfemight be this: http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=32607:17
madLyfeactually it shows it 'registered new interface driver r8152' and not the 815307:20
madLyfeat least thats what windows uses07:21
madLyfehttp://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL815307:26
lordievaderThis might help: https://github.com/rickhofstede/linksys_usb3gigv1_linux07:31
lordievader(Funny to see a repo from a supervisor of mine)07:31
lordievaderAlthough reading the readme, perhaps not.07:32
madLyfefor a linksys adapter i think07:32
lordievaderBut you might have the same problem, that the device annouces itself as something else.07:32
madLyfei had to pack this project up. i need to pass out. thank you guys for helping me this far!07:35
madLyfeill be back at it again tomorrow07:36
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yeeveAnyone know if this has changed in the last 2 years? https://mariadb.com/kb/en/the-mariadb-library/mysql_config_editor-compatibility/13:25
ahasenackthis bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/140373014:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1403730 in net-snmp (Ubuntu) "Add support for OpenVZ simfs" [Low,Triaged]14:01
ahasenackit's fixed in xenial and later14:01
ahasenackjust not in trusty14:01
ahasenackto record that,14:01
ahasenackshould I nominate for trusty, and then close the ubuntu (artful) task?14:01
ahasenackeven though I'm not really going to prepare a trusty SRU at this time?14:01
nacccpaelzer: sigh, it looks like your nut sru in xenial ftbfs because the debian change to fix 52-nut-usbups.rules -> 62-nut-usbups.rules is also needed (from 2.7.4-1)14:55
sdezielnacc: cpaelzer: re the nut SRU for Xenial, I updated LP: #1099947 with some information. Essentially, I cannot repro on Xenial even before applying -proposed15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1099947 in nut (Ubuntu Xenial) "driver unable to connect to CyberPower UPS using usbhid-ups driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109994715:03
sdezielas if the problem was fixed some other way somewhere after Lucid. There is another LP addressed by that SRU though15:05
naccsdeziel: ok, good to know. cpaelzer, can you resolve?15:11
cpaelzernacc: I will resolve15:17
cpaelzerbut not today15:17
cpaelzerit is on my list15:17
madLyfelordievader: you still around?15:23
nacccpaelzer: thanks15:24
lordievadermadLyfe: Yes.15:36
madLyfeyou think i can get this usb ethernet adapter working?15:37
lordievaderNo idea, never had one of those devices.15:38
lordievaderWhat kernel version do you run?15:39
madLyfewhatever is with the latest iso i thought it was 4.10 but that wasnt the case on the last install i did unless i forced it to update15:39
lordievaderYou might want to try modprobing that module with the -v option.15:52
TafThorneUSB Ethernet adaptor?  I got a LTE USB adaptor to mount via the option module a few months ago.15:54
TafThorneHad to echo some ids into a file or something.15:54
madLyfeTafThorne: if you scroll up a bit it shows our convo a bit. im a nix newb, let along a nix server.15:56
TafThornemadLyfe: Was some `lsusb` output in the scroll buffer?16:00
madLyfeone sec, i need to get this machine booted lol was running fine last night.16:01
TafThornemadLyfe: I found the convo.  I do not think I can add anything.  More critically it is almost time to go home!  gnight y'all.16:04
docmurwith iptables --string, is it possible to watch the requesting domain and then forward the port based off it, with both prerouting and postrouting rules?16:10
sdezieldocmur: iptables seems to be the wrong level to do DNS resolution "routing"16:13
sdezieldocmur: what is the problem you are trying to solve?16:15
docmurI have one server 1.1.1.1 with a number of VM's on it.  Each VM has a number of ports that it communicates externally to.  Right now I use iptables to map the ports, for instnace 9300 -> 80 on VM 1, 9400 -> 80 on VM2 etc...,  I'm tyring to set up rules so when it sees name.domain.com it automatically fowards to VM1, other.domain.com to VM216:16
docmurI could buy external IP's it's cheap, but I'm trying to get away from doing that if I can16:17
sdezieland the domain name matching would be done in the HTTP 1.1 packet, is that right?16:17
docmurI'm not entirely sure :S, that's a good question16:20
docmuryes16:21
sdezieldocmur: you seem to want to have multiple vhosts all sharing the same public IPv416:21
docmurunder the host segment of the HTTP heder16:21
docmuryes16:21
docmurand doing the routing based on URL16:21
docmurI can just buy external IP's, it would be great if I didn't have to16:21
sdezieldocmur: in that case, I'd recommend having a reverse proxy (apt-get install nginx) and then use it to do the vhost routing16:21
docmurThat might be more difficult and complicated then buying the external IPs, so that might be a better option in the end16:22
sdezieldocmur: with a reverse proxy in place, you could redirect 1.1.1.1:80 and 1.1.1.1:443 to the reverse proxy itself. It would then be able to route the request based on the requested vhost16:22
docmurYa, I know how the reverse proxy works, but when I think of it that way, I'm better off getting the external IP's16:23
sdezielthat works too :)16:24
RoyKSeems crashplan is pulling the plug on large volume backup users, with various excuses for moving away from home users and over to small business, but again, all existing backups > 5TB will be removed and a new one has to be completed (for "technical" reasons). Anyone that knows a good cloud backup provider that allows 10ish TB without it costing a fortune?16:38
ikonianot really on topic for this channel RoyK maybe #ubuntu-offtopic ?16:43
RoyKpossibly16:45
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gunixok so does pacemaker seem only to me like a big overkill?17:15
dpb1RoyK: I'm moving my "home" servers to something.  still investigating what17:16
dpb1for anything production, I wouldn't have been using crashplan home17:16
RoyKwell, I've had crashplan as a backup of backups, to put it that way17:18
dpb1RoyK: same here17:18
dpb1RoyK: what did you do to centralize your backups17:18
dpb1("stage 1" as it were)17:18
RoyKnextcloud and bareos17:19
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madLyfeok lordievader, what is mod probing?17:42
ahasenacknacc: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25377810/ I'm doing deconstruct (first old/debian rebase), and did that changelog line about adding apparmor17:44
ahasenacknacc: is it ok to decompose that into the second bit in that pastebin, where I detail all that is involved in adding the apparmor profile? And with individual commits?17:44
ahasenackor should I do this only later, in another phase17:45
lordievadermadLyfe: the manual loading of a kernel module/driver.17:45
madLyfewhat is the key combo to scroll up an a terminal window that has a bunch of output but is waiting for action?17:48
madLyfei did the 'sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev' and 'sudo dmesg -w' but i didnt get those red errors this time17:51
madLyfewell as far as i can tell from what is printed on my viewable screen17:51
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dxOQDvj8/irccloudcapture1666365767.jpg18:00
madLyfethere is some of the output lordievader18:01
lordievadermadLyfe: I'm not seeing any mention of the r8153 (or however it was called) module in that output.18:03
madLyfehow do you see the rest of the data?18:05
madLyfelsusb still doesnt show it either18:06
lordievaderUsually something like ctrl (or al) pg up18:09
lordievaderNo without a driver lsusb wont show it.18:09
madLyfeoh18:10
madLyfehow do i probe it or whatever?18:10
lordievadermadLyfe: sudo modprobe <driver name>18:11
madLyfethe one it had an error on or the one i think should be there?18:12
madLyfecuz it was  r815218:12
madLyfewindows says it was  r815318:12
lordievaderYes the one Linux mentioned.18:14
madLyfedid 'sudo modprobe r8152' and it just went to new line18:15
lordievaderAnything in dmesg?18:24
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MvWbMtlx/irccloudcapture1992406357.jpg18:29
madLyfelordievader ya there is something18:29
madLyfehard to get a pic of the output18:29
lordievaderOr is that old output? Of this morning?18:36
madLyfeno i had to shut it off18:36
madLyfethat was from just now18:36
madLyfeit is plugged in btw18:37
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lordievaderIf you run 'sudo lsmod|grep r8152' do you get any output?18:49
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/juXsdUnf/irccloudcapture55180248.jpg18:51
madLyfeya18:51
sarnoldmadLyfe: shift page-up / shift page-dn usually works18:54
madLyfethat doesnt work for the ones that have watched commands on them18:54
sarnoldhit ^S, do the scrolling, and then when you want the output to resume hit ^Q18:55
madLyfeno combo of shift/ctrl/alt with page-up/page-dn work18:55
madLyfewhat is ^S?18:56
sarnoldcontrol+S is the XOFF terminal flow control command. Control+Q is the XON terminal flow command.18:57
madLyfethat doesnt seem to do anything either18:59
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ddx51HuD/irccloudcapture417442551.jpg19:06
madLyfealso that, lordievader19:07
lordievadermadLyfe: This might interest you, you had a different id but it may still be relevant: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg156635.html19:11
lordievaderDoes `ip l` list any new interface?19:13
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QmQRQvmt/irccloudcapture486192748.jpg19:15
madLyfelordievader:19:15
madLyfeim not sure what that mailing wants me to do exactly19:16
lordievaderWait, that server has no nic?19:16
lordievaderHow?19:16
madLyfewell its a blade19:16
sarnoldwoah19:17
madLyfethe mez cards removed and i disabled the nics in the bios because im running it out of chassis and open air.19:17
sarnoldhow does it do anything useful without a nic? :)19:17
sarnoldah19:17
naccsigh, i think there is an undocumented behavioral change in the new git in 17.1019:17
madLyfeim trying to get it ethernet via usb19:17
* nacc goes and grabs some debdiffs19:18
lordievadermadLyfe: You have a nic on board and you want to use a usb one? why?19:31
madLyfethere are no connections. the only way to get internet from that onboard nic is to have a chassis for the blade. which, i dont.19:32
madLyfebut i have a usb port and a front I/O cable port and this usb hub/ethernet adapter.19:33
lordievaderRight.19:39
lordievaderI'd take a latop and try a bunch of kernels to see if it the module is updated or something.19:39
madLyfecant i just load onto usb?19:40
lordievaderIf you want to try many kernels it is a better idea to make a dual boot or something.19:44
lordievaderYou might try to do it in a vm, but that  may give its own problems.19:45
madLyfehow come i need full kernels? cant i just give it a different driver or something?19:45
madLyfeobv doesnt know how it works19:45
lordievaderDrivers usually ship along with the kernel.19:48
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madLyfeat that point id almost rather buy another adapter or something19:52
madLyfefunny thing is ive been looking and havent really come across anyone saying that anything works out of the box with server.19:52
madLyfei mean, shouldnt i just try the official drivers on the realtek website?19:56
madLyfeor am i missing something?19:56
lordievaderSure you can try them, if they provide propper instructions20:03
coreycbbeisner: we're ready to promote pike-staging to pike-proposed20:03
beisnerok coreycb on that20:04
coreycbbeisner: ty!20:04
madLyfelordievader: i dont see any instructions lol20:06
lordievaderCould you give me a link?20:07
madLyfehttp://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL815320:07
lordievaderOh, it has a makefile: make && sudo make install20:11
lordievaderNote the second command might overwrite an existing module.20:11
madLyfedo i have to have the adapter connected for this to work, if it does work? i only have so many usb ports to work with here.20:11
hehehehi20:11
heheheI wonder what can cause this https://pastebin.com/3xgLxnhJ20:12
hehehehttps://github.com/opencart/opencart/blob/2.3.x/upload/admin/controller/extension/modification.php20:14
hehehewhy cant it unlink20:14
heheheand remove..20:14
sarnoldhehehe: compare namei -l /var/www/html/system/storage/modification/system/library/template/tiwg.php output against the uid / gid of the process that is trying to issue the unlink() syscalls20:16
hehehesarnold: both php and nginx are www-data20:17
heheheand files are root:www-data20:17
heheheand folders also20:17
hehehedrwxr-x--- root www-data library20:18
hehehe-rw-r----- root www-data tiwg.php20:19
hehehesarnold: why else permission would be denied?20:20
hehehecommon causes20:20
hehehemaybe selinux issue?20:22
madLyfelordievader: so do i load the .bz2 file onto the usb or just the file inside?20:25
lordievadermadLyfe: You extract it, build it and install it ;)20:25
sarnoldhehehe: in order to delete those files the process would need to be running as root. is it?20:27
madLyfe"To compile a driver from source code requires the packages linux-headers and build-essential and all their dependencies. They would be very difficult to download and install without an internet connection."20:27
sarnoldmadLyfe: heh, very true :/20:28
hehehesarnold: all files are chown to root:www-data20:28
hehehesince user www-data is in www-data group20:29
hehehehe should be able to delete?20:29
sarnoldhehehe: drwxr-x--20:29
hehehewhats that in numbers?20:29
hehehe750/20:30
hehehe?20:30
sarnoldinteresting I wonder why double-click didn't select the whole thing :(20:30
hehehei use 640 on files20:30
heheheso group can only read...20:31
hehehe750 on dirs20:31
heheheread and write20:31
madLyfesarnold: so im SOL?20:32
sarnoldmadLyfe: maybe; it certainly complicates testing a new module from realtek.20:35
sarnoldmadLyfe: what release are you using? maybe a newer release or HWE kernel would have newer modules20:36
madLyfewhatever the newest iso is.20:36
madLyfegot it last week20:36
madLyfe4.4 is the kernel20:36
madLyfedoesnt have the 4.10 kernel for some reason20:37
hehehesarnold: Warning: fclose() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/html/system/library/log.php on line 14Warning: fclose() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/html/system/library/log.php on line 14 new error20:41
hehehehehe20:41
heheheprevious was fixed via -R 770 :)20:41
naccmadLyfe: server or desktop image?20:41
madLyfeserver20:42
naccmadLyfe: the 16.04.3 desktop image should have the 4.10 kernel on it, i believe20:42
naccmadLyfe: ah, then it will have the 4.4 kernel, yes20:42
naccmadLyfe: i would try the live usb of the desktop image20:42
madLyfenot sure what that means20:42
naccmadLyfe: what which means?20:42
madLyfetry the live usb of the desktop image20:42
sarnoldI thought the server images had both to choose from?20:43
naccsarnold: i would need to double-check with a live install, but the way it seems to work is the newest server images use the base kernel20:43
naccsarnold: and the newest desktop images use the hwe kernel20:43
madLyfei upgraded my other server images to 4.10 but that needed internet.20:43
naccsarnold: it's yet-another-difference we've seen in #ubuntu20:43
naccmadLyfe: boot the desktop installer (it's a live usb)20:44
gunixcan you use ubuntu MAAS to deploy ANY type of server? like create a custom ubuntu desktop setup, and deploy it to 10 physical servers?20:44
naccmadLyfe: don't install it, just see if it works20:44
madLyfesee if the adapter work on that you mean?20:45
naccmadLyfe: yes20:45
naccmadLyfe: and/or, get the appropriate kernel packages on a different machine and copy them via usb or something20:45
madLyfenacc: which is the live usb though?20:49
madLyfeor is it just the normal download?20:49
hehehesarnold: lol you dislike php/20:58
hehehe?20:58
hehehei got an idea to clone open cart in bubbl20:58
hehehebubble :)20:58
hehehe0 php madness20:58
beisnerok coreycb - pike --> proposed sync is complete21:01
coreycbbeisner: excellent21:01
madLyfenacc: waiting for it to boot now21:08
madLyfeok im in21:11
madLyfenow to test. i dont have a mouse.21:11
madLyfelol21:11
madLyfeit is not showing up under network connections21:16
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DKn9SF5s/irccloudcapture1745731693.jpg21:18
madLyfenacc: not sure where else to check21:19
BrazierCustomsstokachu it also breaks kubernets core with the cannot retrieve charm. (the you need to do this fix)21:24
naccmadLyfe: i suppose that's what i'd have looked for. You can make sure it is the right kernel from a terminal (`uname -r`) and see if `dmesg` indicates anything is trying to use the wireless device21:25
madLyfescreen went to sleep and now i cant bring it back up lol21:25
madLyfehow do you get to a terminal?21:29
naccmadLyfe: hrm, ctrl+alt+t ?21:30
naccmadLyfe: or from the dash -> terminal21:30
madLyfeyou going to be around later? i need a break.21:31
madLyfeif not, thanks for the help!21:31
naccmadLyfe: yeah, i'm here normally21:31
naccrbasak: fyi, https://marc.info/?l=git&m=150351922132158&w=2 means that currently the importer can't be used on artful (well, it will fail when `gbp import-orig` is called)21:38
naccrbasak: i'm going to try and rebuild the snap under zesty so the import-cron continues21:38
madLyfenacc: not sure if it matters but it's not a wireless device. it's just a USB hub with Ethernet.21:42
rbasaknacc: nice job tracking that down!21:42
madLyfeif I use a laptop for live boot USB will Ubuntu recognize it's wireless/track pad?21:43
madLyfeit's a pretty old Sony one. I guess a have a old Dell laptop as well.21:43
naccrbasak: yeah, it was almost immediate failure in the importer when git rolled out (and the snap was rebuilt) to artful. I think my reasoning is sane, but reading some of the git-ML discussions about branch renames is crazy :)21:44
naccmadLyfe: oh sorry, i assumed wifi21:44
rbasaknacc: btw, technically there's no such thing as Ubuntu 17.10. It has a codename only until it's named at release. If the release is delayed (eg. 6.06), then the presumed name would be wrong.21:46
naccrbasak: oh interesting, didn't realize that21:46
naccrbasak: will amend future e-mails :)21:47
stokachuBrazierCustoms: sudo snap refresh conjure-up --edge21:55
stokachuJust pushed some updates21:55
BrazierCustomsooooooooow21:55
stokachuStill work to do but it now relies on lxd snap21:56
stokachuOh, and sudo snap refresh lxd --candidate21:56
stokachuIt needs 2.1721:56
BrazierCustomsoh.. so will I still have host issue?21:56
BrazierCustomsstokachu,  sudo snap refresh lxd --candidate21:58
BrazierCustomserror: cannot refresh "lxd": cannot find snap "lxd"21:58
BrazierCustomsinstall?22:01
hehehefolks22:03
BrazierCustomsstokachu do I need to install and possibly remove the apt default?22:03
hehehedo you have some ideas for new cool foss software?22:03
heheheor even enthusiasm to do current job well :)22:04
hehehewhere is the vigor the drive of linux>22:06
hehehelol22:07
nacchehehe: seems like a topic for #linux or any number of other channels22:07
heheheincluding this  one :)22:08
heheheor this one dont suppose to have any vigor? :P22:08
heheheubuntu is most popular distro22:09
BrazierCustomshehehe I like ubuntu because I started out with debian :P22:10
BrazierCustomsI got stuck as admin to a vservers machine lol22:10
hehehei have used various distros and find Ubuntu top notch22:11
stokachuBrazierCustoms: sudo snap install lxd --candidate22:11
stokachuBrazierCustoms: if you aren't using the apt one remove those22:12
stokachusudo apt remove lxd lxd-client22:12
BrazierCustomshehehe while repairing automation, robotics, and CNC.  I also ended up writing tracking software to track repair jobs for the company i was working for.22:12
BrazierCustomsstokachu, oh thank electrons, thats what I have already done :P22:12
BrazierCustomsstokachu, however something is fishy.. if I do lxd --version I get -bash: /usr/bin/lxd: No such file or directory22:14
sarnoldhehehe: yeah, I can't stand php. it encourages unsafe programming practices. maybe php7 is less crazy than previous php releases but nearly everything that's written in php is crap.22:14
stokachuBrazierCustoms: hash -r22:15
stokachuIf that fails make sure /snap/bin is in your path22:15
sarnoldBrazierCustoms: 'hash -r'22:15
sarnoldhah22:15
hehehesarnold: emotions imo should be put aside sometimes22:15
sarnoldthats what I get for having to check the manpage first..22:15
hehehephp may encourage whatever - however many cool apps are in it22:16
hehehesarnold: plus I nearly made new programming language22:16
hehehecompiler apart lol22:16
hehehein my view all 1.0 programming language are about same22:17
BrazierCustomsstokachu, that fixed it :)22:17
BrazierCustomsthe lxd issue anyway22:18
hehehei just saw22:18
heheheYou have no errors, how cool is that!22:18
hehehelol22:18
hehehesarnold: have you every wrote a compiler?22:19
hehehefor any lanuage22:19
sarnoldhehehe: "sort of"; twenty years ago I wrote a toy compiler for a toy language that ran on a toy VM22:20
hehehenice22:20
hehehehow to you translate AST into machine code?22:22
heheheso say parser - ast - machine code lol22:22
sarnoldfor every node, issue commands to load or store arguments from registers or spill space; once the arguments are in place, issue the command opcode22:23
BrazierCustomsstokachu, I get to "choose one or more additional items to add to your cloud and its blank. I continue and its "where would you like to deploy" but I have no highlighted item unless I hit tab then it highlights "quit" tab again and nothing is highlited..... :(22:27
BrazierCustomslocalhost is listed, but I cant highlight it22:28
hehehehttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0471976970/?tag=stackoverfl08-2022:28
hehehe2.69$$$22:28
hehehethats cheap22:28
sarnoldwow that's -really- cheap22:29
hehehehehe22:29
hehehesarnold: so maybe its wise to use LLVM?22:31
sarnoldhehehe: yes, llvm has a huge amount of infrastructure already existing22:31
BrazierCustomsstokachu, HA aparently I can still select it with my mouse :D22:32
hehehesarnold: https://gnuu.org/2009/09/18/writing-your-own-toy-compiler/22:33
hehehe:)))22:33
sarnoldhehehe: wow that looks like a fantastic introduction. llvm 2.6 is ancient by now :/ but hopefully a lot that's there is still good.22:34
hehehe:)22:36
BrazierCustomsif you have played with c, c++, and basic (on commodore64) and some machine code (on an old industrial processors) what would be best to dip in next? hehehe / sarnold?22:39
heheheBrazierCustoms: well you can help me to figure out which mistake of mine or a module developer botched 1 OC module implementation :P22:41
heheheor whatever you like to do22:41
sarnoldBrazierCustoms: I've really loved learning about rust; it's got an enormously powerful type system that prevents many classes of bugs entirely; it feels both like a very-high-level language and low-level language all at once. The learning curve is a bit steep but it's incredibly powerful once you're familiar with the borrow checker.22:42
heheheI simply feel driven to make simple programming language for myself :)22:42
BrazierCustomsstokachu, I got same issue I got when I patched the neutron.sh file last night.. failed to get charm22:42
sarnoldhehehe: you may wish to consider writing a forth interpreter as a starting point; I've heard it is a pleasant enough language to write a little interpreter for22:42
BrazierCustomshehehe, I could try lol22:42
BrazierCustomssarnold, rust? never heard of it..  any think well known its used in?22:43
hehehewhen as teenaged I read Napoleon Hill accounts of a power of group mind I did believe it however now I also experience the effects of it more22:43
hehehegroup mind can be really powerful22:44
heheheor what people call brain storming22:44
BrazierCustomssarnold, I dont know why but I always avoided forth22:45
sarnoldBrazierCustoms: mozilla, dropbox, parity, red hat's stratis project..22:45
hehehesarnold: I sense the best learning experience for me would be write compiler for simple22:45
hehehethe language I made making22:45
heheheand start using it :)22:45
hehehethen i can see more22:45
sarnoldBrazierCustoms: forth's not -really- popular, I'm not surprised. I always heard the hp48 language was sort of like forth, so I've had a soft spot for forth as a result :) but never learned it enough to use it myself22:46
hehehesarnold: and that book we talked about -anatomy of programming languages22:47
hehehewas also cool22:47
heheheexplained stuff well22:47
sarnoldnice22:47
BrazierCustomssarnold, dropbox and mozilla wow..22:48
heheheand writer listed her work and personal emai22:48
heheheto contact her if wanted :)22:48
BrazierCustomsi use dropbox22:48
hehehe*email22:48
hehehewestorefiles.com sounds nice22:49
hehehestorify :)22:49
hehehestruber22:49
heheheBrazierCustoms: yes as to open cart for some reason 1 module yet to work, I wrote develop to see if he can assist, and another module - I paid for it and go 022:50
hehehemay do paypal dispute lol22:51
hehehehowever apart of that all works22:51
hehehehttp://www.parrot.org/22:51
stokachuBrazierCustoms: you got a screenshot of the view where you couldnt move forward with the keyboard?22:52
stokachuBrazierCustoms: the failed to get charm is something else not related to neutron22:52
BrazierCustomsstokachu, the failed to get charm did not start back until i did your "you need to do this git" link22:53
BrazierCustomsstokachu, and continued though your "refresh --edge"22:54
stokachuBrazierCustoms: thats after you get an openstack stood up22:54
BrazierCustomsstokachu, I didnt understand that last sentence22:55
BrazierCustomsstood up?22:55
stokachuBrazierCustoms: you are running neutron commands but are talking about charms not being downloaded22:59
stokachuso those are 2 different things22:59
BrazierCustomsstokachu, I dont have screenshot..  also I am not running any commands, except conjure-up. it fails at failed to get charms23:00
BrazierCustomsjust like it did last night after your "do this" patch23:00
stokachuBrazierCustoms: ok can you `pastebinit ~/.cache/conjure-up/conjure-up.log`23:01
stokachuand `juju status --format yaml|pastebinit`23:01
BrazierCustomsstokachu, sure23:01
BrazierCustomsstokachu,  pastebinit ~/.cache/conjure-up/conjure-up.log23:05
BrazierCustomshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25379453/23:05
BrazierCustomsstokachu, on the secode one, I alredy destroyed the unusable controller.. shoud I do it again?23:06
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BrazierCustomsstokachu, second*, should*23:10
BrazierCustomsstokachu our timings are terrible lol, I need to leave soon23:11
hehehe:)23:11
hehehewtf23:11
BrazierCustomsbu tI will answer what I can from mobile lol23:11
BrazierCustomshehehe stop watching me hehe :P23:12
hehehewell I also wrote a new language sample syntax23:12
hehehe:)23:12
BrazierCustomshehehe I am currently on vacation, not vacationing lol23:12
hehehethen why do u use irc23:13
heheheit means u love it23:13
heheheso just stay here lol23:13
stokachuyea im not sure why it's failing to download those charms23:13
stokachuBrazierCustoms: can you `juju controllers|pastebinit`23:13
BrazierCustomsi do love it, and i will stay here but.. i will be less availible.. androidirc lol23:14
stokachuBrazierCustoms: ok ping me when you get back to a machine23:14
BrazierCustomsstokachu, there are no controllers now23:14
BrazierCustomsERROR No controllers registered23:14
stokachuBrazierCustoms: do `rm -rf ~/.local/share/juju`23:14
stokachuand start again with conjure-up23:15
BrazierCustomsotw :)23:15
BrazierCustomsstill had to use mouse (note I'm on remote ssh terminal) but deploy 14 instead of 15?23:16
BrazierCustomsstokachu ^^ and bootstrapping juju now23:17
BrazierCustoms(before I leave lol)23:17
Epx998Whats the generic intel controller sas/scsi driver?23:19
BrazierCustomsstokachu, if this fails, when I get back home (tomorrow afternoon) Would access to this machine be benificial to you?23:21
stokachuBrazierCustoms: yea if you can get me that23:22
stokachui can look into it23:22
BrazierCustomsstokachu, it failed @ get charm.  pastebinit ~/.cache/conjure-up/conjure-up.log23:23
BrazierCustomshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25379540/23:23
stokachuyou're getting a bunch of timeouts to the charmstore23:23
BrazierCustomsjuju controllers | pastebinit23:23
BrazierCustomshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25379544/23:23
stokachuhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yRw8vSCQ/23:23
BrazierCustomsstokachu, whats that?23:24
stokachuBrazierCustoms: failure in networking23:24
BrazierCustomswhy?23:24
stokachuBrazierCustoms: not sure23:25
stokachuBrazierCustoms: try this `juju bootstrap localhost lxd-test`23:25
stokachuthen try `juju deploy ghost`23:25
stokachuif that fails then it's not a conjure-up issue and probably not a juju problem since it is failing to query the charmstore23:25
stokachuso if you are behind a firewall then you could see this issue23:25
stokachuare you behind anything like that?23:25
BrazierCustomsstokachu, ok but before. I can boootstrap a juju controller, but I couldnt destroy it I had to unregister.23:26
stokachuBrazierCustoms: unregister?23:26
heheheRequest timed out23:26
hehehehehe23:26
stokachuBrazierCustoms: you usually only register to jaas controller23:26
BrazierCustomsstokachu, controller failed at destroy23:27
BrazierCustomsso to get off list unregister23:27
BrazierCustoms?23:27
hehehedoes it have privileges needed to destroy?23:27
BrazierCustomsso when I conjure-up there wasnt a bunch of controllers listed23:27
stokachuright they all got cleared out23:31
stokachuare you behind a firewall?23:31
BrazierCustomsfirewall on machine is disabled, i am behind a reouter to the ouside web23:32
BrazierCustoms192.168.1.1 gateway23:32
stokachuBrazierCustoms: ok can you try the juju commands i posted23:33
BrazierCustomsok23:33
stokachu`juju bootstrap localhost lxd-test` and `juju deploy ghost`23:33
BrazierCustomsstokachu, its in process, but last time I tried it all worked except when I tried to destroy, it would not communicate with the ip23:35
BrazierCustomscurrently "Attempting to connect to 10.159.211.91:22"23:36
BrazierCustomsno, get error, 1 sec i will post23:40
BrazierCustomsstokachu, ERROR storing charm for URL "cs:ghost-20": cannot retrieve charm "cs:ghost-20": cannot get archive23:42
BrazierCustomsGet https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v5/ghost-20/archive?channel=stable: dial tcp: lookup api23:42
BrazierCustomsujucharms.com on 10.159.211.1:53: read udp 10.159.211.91:46302->10.159.211.1:53: i/o timeout23:42
BrazierCustomssorry tried t pastebinit but got empty file error23:42
BrazierCustomsstokachu, is it a typo what is ujujucharms.com23:43
BrazierCustoms"ookup api ujucharms.com"23:46
BrazierCustomslol "lookup api ujucharms.com"23:47
stokachuyea you got some network issues going on23:47
BrazierCustomsmine or conjures23:47
BrazierCustomsstokachu, ^^23:48
stokachuyours, we're just trying to access that url23:48
stokachuBrazierCustoms: what does lxc list show?23:48
BrazierCustomsbut i can juju ssh # and google.com23:49
BrazierCustomsstokachu, Connection refused; is LXD running?23:50
stokachuwhat does `which lxc` show23:50
BrazierCustomsstokachu, /usr/bin/lxc23:50
stokachuBrazierCustoms: ok did you `sudo apt remote lxd lxd-client` like before?23:51
BrazierCustomsstokachu, yes23:51
stokachusudo apt remove lxd lxd-client23:51
stokachuBrazierCustoms: what does `dpkg -l lxd` show23:51
BrazierCustomsthen i removed the snap version and reinstalled23:52
BrazierCustomsstokachu, dpkg -l lxd | pastebinit23:53
BrazierCustomshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25379651/23:53
stokachuBrazierCustoms: what about `dpkg -l lxd-client`23:53
BrazierCustomsstokachu, going mobile \may be way less avail23:53
stokachuk we can talk tom23:53
BrazierCustomsstokachu,  dpkg -l lxd-client | pastebinit23:54
BrazierCustomshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25379654/23:54
stokachuok you didnt actually remove lxd-client it looks like23:54
BrazierCustomsleaving this for log, stokachu I apt-get purgeed lxd23:55
stokachuyou need to do both lxd and lxd-client23:55
BrazierCustomsshart23:55
BrazierCustomsstokachu, purged client, and restarts23:56
BrazierCustomsant?23:56
BrazierCustomsany?23:57
BrazierCustomstell braziercustoms-m23:59

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