[00:05] back [00:06] BrazierCustoms: ok whats output of `ip addr` [00:09] stokachu http://paste.ubuntu.com/25373307/ [00:11] BrazierCustoms: ok, need to update the neutron ubuntu-subnet to use 10.169.101.1/24 instead of 10.101.0.1 [00:11] BrazierCustoms: thats what im fixing this week [00:12] BrazierCustoms: https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/blob/dc937ff23a173f592681918903d02745413ed558/openstack-novalxd/steps/share/neutron.sh#L36-L38 thats what you need to do [00:12] replace 10.101.0.0/24 with 10.169.101.1/24 [00:12] stokachu oh so its not me? lol [00:12] oh and ext-net too [00:13] BrazierCustoms: yea it's not you [00:13] i should have this fixed in the next day or so [00:13] you able to wait until then? [00:14] i guess, im on vacay anyway, why is it I have this prob? I dont see 100 other ppl posting about it.. [00:15] ive been dealing with it since last time we spoke.. [00:16] BrazierCustoms: yea not sure why more people dont post about it [00:16] BrazierCustoms: it's definitely broken though [00:16] BrazierCustoms: a lot of users use the openstack base with maas [00:16] so they have to configure it all themselves anyway [00:16] &also would this cause juju to freeze and "try was stopped" after trying to create an instance? [00:17] BrazierCustoms: yea there are various other issues with localhost that im fixing [00:17] ive had this happen a few times too. [00:17] oh ok [00:17] yea it is my focus this week to iron all that out [00:18] so you saying very few ppl using the conjure-up method? [00:18] BrazierCustoms: heh, no that's not what im saying [00:18] there are 2 different spells, one uses MAAS the other localhost [00:18] I dont have enogh experience to set up everything. [00:18] a lot of production users use maas [00:19] yea localhost is for you, i just need to fix it :) [00:19] well.. this isnt production until i can figure it out :P [00:19] lol so I'm a lone localhoster lol [00:19] BrazierCustoms: yep, hang out in this channel and ill ping you when i have something for you to test [00:20] BrazierCustoms: well also a lot of our focus has been on kubernetes recently [00:20] should I switch? [00:21] I dont know much about most of it. but I want to learn. but its hard to tell the difference between me goofing up and BROKEN when you arent 100% sure how alot of it is working.. [00:22] yea understood, i guess the question is what are you trying to do? [00:22] is this just for learning? [00:22] stokachu, mostly. but I have some private network reasons to play :) [00:23] I really just want the controller and the instances to work.. [00:24] BrazierCustoms: yea understood, ill fix that :) [00:24] just need a couple days [00:24] so the only reason this doesnt work is because its local host? [00:25] BrazierCustoms: no the network is misconfigured for neutron [00:25] thats the only piece that is broken [00:25] I guess what i am asking is what caused it to misconfigure? [00:26] BrazierCustoms: right now we use the auto option when creating lxc network bridges, and in our spell we made the assumption we always control the network bridge network and set it to a fixed value [00:28] BrazierCustoms: https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/76 and https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/66 need to be fixed [00:28] and https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/50 [00:29] subscribe to those issues, im going to go back to working on this lxd stuff [00:31] ah.ok. I will try to keep irc active on my mobile. thanks for your help, I been banging my head. [00:34] BrazierCustoms: np, you can also hop back on https://rocket.ubuntu.com/channel/conjure-up if that's easier from your phone [00:36] stocachu, it dont matter, I have android irc on the mobile :) [00:43] <<<<-Stokachu :D [00:47] braziercustoms-m: you missed nothing while you were away [00:51] lol [00:53] Sarnold I'm sure lol there is so much to talk about though.. [01:07] Sarnold what do you do? [01:08] braziercustoms-m: I'm on the security team; I do the standard 'job rotation' duties and main include review audits (well, we call them audits, but they're way too quick to really be _audits_) [01:12] Sarnold security watch for contributions? [01:14] braziercustoms-m: we sponsor updates for universe packages that community members prepare and test https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures [01:30] Sarnold Wow. Love it. So many things to know. I get lost in what I want to learn :D [01:31] braziercustoms-m: likewise, I've been meaning to play with conjure-up for a few months now. hehe. [01:32] Sarnold I'm the kind of person who starts reading one thing and ends up with 5ptabs open. [01:32] 50 tabs open [01:33] braziercustoms-m: aye. I've got that too. 30+ tabs on my phone and 235 on my desktop. [01:33] Oh so I'm in the right asylum? Lol [01:34] lol [01:38] I need a bubble map for conjure-up. I think I'm confused about what's controlling what.. I've had a lot of issues some my mistake/ some I spent countless hours trying to figure out if it was my mistake. Thank goodness for ppl like you and stokachu for clarifying... [01:38] mostly stokachu, hehe [01:41] Sarnold I feel like you have helped me in the past somewhere.. [01:41] Lol there went my hotel connection lol [01:41] braziercustoms-m: heh your nick is certainly familiar but I can only recall conjure-up questions.. [01:43] Sarnold have you ever done anything I debian channel? [01:43] braziercustoms-m: not #debian itself, that's way too chaotic for me [01:43] I like quiet irc clients :) [01:44] Lol [01:48] sarnold I come here sometimes just in hopes to catch someone talking about something I need to know :P I rarely catch much. [01:49] braziercustoms-m: yeah, #ubuntu might be better for that, except it's also drinking-from-a-firehose levels of traffic === princeking is now known as hehehe [01:54] Sarnold As far as virtual hosting I'm somewhat of a noob. Someone helped me with some vservers stuff and some other login security issues, but it was debian. [02:22] stokachu i may try your "you need to do this" link from earlier. I guess when its done I need to re- conjure-up a cloud? or can I just restart something? [02:32] yea you would re-run conjure-up [02:37] stokachu, ok thanks [04:15] stokachu in the process of conjure-up now [04:22] stokachu this put me back to "cannot retrieve charm blah blah" during conjure-up [04:23] this was the problem I was having last time we spoke. [04:58] when installing server it detects drives to install to. i have two of the exact same usb keys, one empty and one with the ubuntu server iso on it to install from. will the installer ever ask me to install to the installer usb key? [05:07] like if it cant detect another empty usb key, does it detect itself? [05:34] good morning [05:53] trying to get this USB hub/ethernet adapter working on server [05:53] have no idea [06:15] Good morning === JanC_ is now known as JanC [06:26] any of you guys know how to get a usb hub/ethernet adapter working? [06:26] i dont even think its recognized. it works in windows so i know its not borked. [06:28] madLyfe: it depends a lot on the chipset used in it [06:28] madLyfe: you need to hangle through the stages it need to initialize correctly and see where it breaks [06:28] madLyfe: so lsusb if it shows up at all (and under which type) [06:29] madLyfe: then dmesg on plugging it if it recognized it as network, ... [06:29] i dont think it shows up under lsusb [06:29] askubuntu is full of cases like this but it always depends on the exact device type [06:29] madLyfe: well even if not supported it should show up there [06:30] madLyfe: so unplug, sudo lsub > before; plug sudo lsub > after; diff -Naur before after = empty? [06:30] if not there it seems more like an electrical issue than anything else and since you say it works in windows ... [06:30] at least I never seen anything (but broken devices) to not show up [06:30] like a usb disk with a motor damage I once had [06:31] lsub is correct? [06:31] lsusb [06:31] sorry, typing and talking here [06:31] ya i get the same output as before i removed it [06:31] hmm, odd [06:32] and if you run sudo dmesg -w in another console [06:32] is ther eanything happening on plug/unplug/plug ? [06:32] i dunno. im on server. [06:33] madLyfe: sorry - how is the sevrer preventing you from checking dmesg? [06:33] its not. i just unplugged it and ran sudo dmesg -w [06:34] it did a ton of scrolling and is now stopped with a blinking cursor [06:34] the -w is just meant to wait interactively so you can see exactly what is from the unplug/plug [06:34] if you only have one session you can run a normal dmesg and report the tail of it [06:34] Perhaps watching udev makes more sense at this point. [06:35] i just plugged it back in, what should i do next? [06:35] `sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev` [06:35] lordievader: would it show up in udev if it is not appearing in dmesg nor lsub ? [06:35] madLyfe: for lordievader and my sugegstion you'd better need more sessions [06:35] There are cases, yes. [06:35] can you ssh in with a second session [06:35] ? [06:35] no ethernet lol [06:35] need this dongle for that [06:36] so you are on what atm - the serial console? [06:36] i think so? [06:36] lol [06:36] you can still get further sessions with ctrl-alt-f1 - ctrl-alt-f5 [06:36] logged into it with my username and password [06:37] log on the f2 one and do the udev watch that lordievader recommended; log onto the f3 one and do the sudo dmesg -w [06:37] then unplug/plug [06:37] then report back what you got on these two [06:40] not sure how to report it [06:40] how do i scroll up again? [06:41] GenesysLogic_USB.0_Hub looks like the ID-SERIAL [06:41] The exact content of the udev command does not matter. [06:41] As long as text flies by it means the kernel sees a device. [06:41] ya it did [06:42] Okay, so it is detected. Anything from the dmesg command? [06:43] ya [06:44] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8L8oafLX/irccloudcapture621505530.jpg [06:44] not sure how to get you all the output [06:47] Those things in red are your problem. [06:47] Interestingly it does try to load a module (r8152). [06:48] I'd lookup what chip is in there and see if there is a linux driver available. [06:51] well was it getting the realtek driver? because the hub has ethernet as well [06:51] r8152 sounds like realtek, yes. What do you mean with the hub? [06:52] with the hub? [06:52] "because the hub has ethernet as well" what hub? [06:54] this is a usb hub/ethernet adapter [06:54] in one device you mean? [06:54] http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Ports-USB-3-0-Hub-Gigabit-Ethernet-Lan-RJ45-Network-Adapter-to-1000Mbps-Mac-PC-/262668572762 [06:54] ya [06:55] Ah, right. [06:56] Try to find out what kind of chip is in there. [07:00] thing didnt really come with any info. hmm [07:00] IIRC I had once something like that with a hub that was optionally powered and I got this when plugging without external power [07:01] but this doesn't seem to have external pwr [07:01] maybe this still is some over-current protection at work, .. hmm [07:02] There are plenty of issues like this in the web, but they mostly end at bad HW [07:02] ya there is no external power [07:02] since you have no external power madLyfe, might your server have old/new usb ports with some having more power? [07:02] this is actually a blade [07:02] im running it off of the front SUV cable [07:03] SUV I/O cable [07:03] that might even be USB 1.1 or so [07:03] depending on the age (or not) of the blade [07:03] center [07:03] its a G7 [07:03] 2014 is the bios date if i remember correctly [07:04] but looking at your dmesg, it tries to initialize 2-3.4 even after the issue in red [07:04] and I found other posts stating the same [07:04] so maybe after all your actual issue is the "Unknown Device" in the realtek driver [07:04] madLyfe: Does it work on a recent linux laptop or something? [07:04] which gets you back to analyze what chip exactly is used and if there is something for it [07:05] it works on windows is all i know. dont run nix other than ubuntu server for my miners. [07:05] Perhaps Windows can tell you what chip is in there. [07:06] well here it is in windows: http://i.imgur.com/AWIueu5.png [07:06] realtek USB GbE family Controller [07:07] Search through the driver info for a chipset model. [07:08] http://i.imgur.com/6sBIZph.png [07:10] I was more refering to the details tab ;) [07:10] ya im going through the whole list to see what would help out here [07:12] http://i.imgur.com/K1IGARK.png [07:17] might be this: http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=326 [07:20] actually it shows it 'registered new interface driver r8152' and not the 8153 [07:21] at least thats what windows uses [07:26] http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8153 [07:31] This might help: https://github.com/rickhofstede/linksys_usb3gigv1_linux [07:31] (Funny to see a repo from a supervisor of mine) [07:32] Although reading the readme, perhaps not. [07:32] for a linksys adapter i think [07:32] But you might have the same problem, that the device annouces itself as something else. [07:35] i had to pack this project up. i need to pass out. thank you guys for helping me this far! [07:36] ill be back at it again tomorrow === tinwood_ is now known as tinwood === notdaniel is now known as _notdaniel === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [13:25] Anyone know if this has changed in the last 2 years? https://mariadb.com/kb/en/the-mariadb-library/mysql_config_editor-compatibility/ [14:01] this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/1403730 [14:01] Launchpad bug 1403730 in net-snmp (Ubuntu) "Add support for OpenVZ simfs" [Low,Triaged] [14:01] it's fixed in xenial and later [14:01] just not in trusty [14:01] to record that, [14:01] should I nominate for trusty, and then close the ubuntu (artful) task? [14:01] even though I'm not really going to prepare a trusty SRU at this time? [14:55] cpaelzer: sigh, it looks like your nut sru in xenial ftbfs because the debian change to fix 52-nut-usbups.rules -> 62-nut-usbups.rules is also needed (from 2.7.4-1) [15:03] nacc: cpaelzer: re the nut SRU for Xenial, I updated LP: #1099947 with some information. Essentially, I cannot repro on Xenial even before applying -proposed [15:03] Launchpad bug 1099947 in nut (Ubuntu Xenial) "driver unable to connect to CyberPower UPS using usbhid-ups driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099947 [15:05] as if the problem was fixed some other way somewhere after Lucid. There is another LP addressed by that SRU though [15:11] sdeziel: ok, good to know. cpaelzer, can you resolve? [15:17] nacc: I will resolve [15:17] but not today [15:17] it is on my list [15:23] lordievader: you still around? [15:24] cpaelzer: thanks [15:36] madLyfe: Yes. [15:37] you think i can get this usb ethernet adapter working? [15:38] No idea, never had one of those devices. [15:39] What kernel version do you run? [15:39] whatever is with the latest iso i thought it was 4.10 but that wasnt the case on the last install i did unless i forced it to update [15:52] You might want to try modprobing that module with the -v option. [15:54] USB Ethernet adaptor? I got a LTE USB adaptor to mount via the option module a few months ago. [15:54] Had to echo some ids into a file or something. [15:56] TafThorne: if you scroll up a bit it shows our convo a bit. im a nix newb, let along a nix server. [16:00] madLyfe: Was some `lsusb` output in the scroll buffer? [16:01] one sec, i need to get this machine booted lol was running fine last night. [16:04] madLyfe: I found the convo. I do not think I can add anything. More critically it is almost time to go home! gnight y'all. [16:10] with iptables --string, is it possible to watch the requesting domain and then forward the port based off it, with both prerouting and postrouting rules? [16:13] docmur: iptables seems to be the wrong level to do DNS resolution "routing" [16:15] docmur: what is the problem you are trying to solve? [16:16] I have one server 1.1.1.1 with a number of VM's on it. Each VM has a number of ports that it communicates externally to. Right now I use iptables to map the ports, for instnace 9300 -> 80 on VM 1, 9400 -> 80 on VM2 etc..., I'm tyring to set up rules so when it sees name.domain.com it automatically fowards to VM1, other.domain.com to VM2 [16:17] I could buy external IP's it's cheap, but I'm trying to get away from doing that if I can [16:17] and the domain name matching would be done in the HTTP 1.1 packet, is that right? [16:20] I'm not entirely sure :S, that's a good question [16:21] yes [16:21] docmur: you seem to want to have multiple vhosts all sharing the same public IPv4 [16:21] under the host segment of the HTTP heder [16:21] yes [16:21] and doing the routing based on URL [16:21] I can just buy external IP's, it would be great if I didn't have to [16:21] docmur: in that case, I'd recommend having a reverse proxy (apt-get install nginx) and then use it to do the vhost routing [16:22] That might be more difficult and complicated then buying the external IPs, so that might be a better option in the end [16:22] docmur: with a reverse proxy in place, you could redirect 1.1.1.1:80 and 1.1.1.1:443 to the reverse proxy itself. It would then be able to route the request based on the requested vhost [16:23] Ya, I know how the reverse proxy works, but when I think of it that way, I'm better off getting the external IP's [16:24] that works too :) [16:38] Seems crashplan is pulling the plug on large volume backup users, with various excuses for moving away from home users and over to small business, but again, all existing backups > 5TB will be removed and a new one has to be completed (for "technical" reasons). Anyone that knows a good cloud backup provider that allows 10ish TB without it costing a fortune? [16:43] not really on topic for this channel RoyK maybe #ubuntu-offtopic ? [16:45] possibly === jathan is now known as Guest43992 === jathan73_ is now known as jathan [17:15] ok so does pacemaker seem only to me like a big overkill? [17:16] RoyK: I'm moving my "home" servers to something. still investigating what [17:16] for anything production, I wouldn't have been using crashplan home [17:18] well, I've had crashplan as a backup of backups, to put it that way [17:18] RoyK: same here [17:18] RoyK: what did you do to centralize your backups [17:18] ("stage 1" as it were) [17:19] nextcloud and bareos === jathan is now known as jathan73 [17:42] ok lordievader, what is mod probing? [17:44] nacc: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25377810/ I'm doing deconstruct (first old/debian rebase), and did that changelog line about adding apparmor [17:44] nacc: is it ok to decompose that into the second bit in that pastebin, where I detail all that is involved in adding the apparmor profile? And with individual commits? [17:45] or should I do this only later, in another phase [17:45] madLyfe: the manual loading of a kernel module/driver. [17:48] what is the key combo to scroll up an a terminal window that has a bunch of output but is waiting for action? [17:51] i did the 'sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev' and 'sudo dmesg -w' but i didnt get those red errors this time [17:51] well as far as i can tell from what is printed on my viewable screen [18:00] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dxOQDvj8/irccloudcapture1666365767.jpg [18:01] there is some of the output lordievader [18:03] madLyfe: I'm not seeing any mention of the r8153 (or however it was called) module in that output. [18:05] how do you see the rest of the data? [18:06] lsusb still doesnt show it either [18:09] Usually something like ctrl (or al) pg up [18:09] No without a driver lsusb wont show it. [18:10] oh [18:10] how do i probe it or whatever? [18:11] madLyfe: sudo modprobe [18:12] the one it had an error on or the one i think should be there? [18:12] cuz it was r8152 [18:12] windows says it was r8153 [18:14] Yes the one Linux mentioned. [18:15] did 'sudo modprobe r8152' and it just went to new line [18:24] Anything in dmesg? [18:29] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MvWbMtlx/irccloudcapture1992406357.jpg [18:29] lordievader ya there is something [18:29] hard to get a pic of the output [18:36] Or is that old output? Of this morning? [18:36] no i had to shut it off [18:36] that was from just now [18:37] it is plugged in btw === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:49] If you run 'sudo lsmod|grep r8152' do you get any output? [18:51] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/juXsdUnf/irccloudcapture55180248.jpg [18:51] ya [18:54] madLyfe: shift page-up / shift page-dn usually works [18:54] that doesnt work for the ones that have watched commands on them [18:55] hit ^S, do the scrolling, and then when you want the output to resume hit ^Q [18:55] no combo of shift/ctrl/alt with page-up/page-dn work [18:56] what is ^S? [18:57] control+S is the XOFF terminal flow control command. Control+Q is the XON terminal flow command. [18:59] that doesnt seem to do anything either [19:06] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ddx51HuD/irccloudcapture417442551.jpg [19:07] also that, lordievader [19:11] madLyfe: This might interest you, you had a different id but it may still be relevant: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg156635.html [19:13] Does `ip l` list any new interface? [19:15] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QmQRQvmt/irccloudcapture486192748.jpg [19:15] lordievader: [19:16] im not sure what that mailing wants me to do exactly [19:16] Wait, that server has no nic? [19:16] How? [19:16] well its a blade [19:17] woah [19:17] the mez cards removed and i disabled the nics in the bios because im running it out of chassis and open air. [19:17] how does it do anything useful without a nic? :) [19:17] ah [19:17] sigh, i think there is an undocumented behavioral change in the new git in 17.10 [19:17] im trying to get it ethernet via usb [19:18] * nacc goes and grabs some debdiffs [19:31] madLyfe: You have a nic on board and you want to use a usb one? why? [19:32] there are no connections. the only way to get internet from that onboard nic is to have a chassis for the blade. which, i dont. [19:33] but i have a usb port and a front I/O cable port and this usb hub/ethernet adapter. [19:39] Right. [19:39] I'd take a latop and try a bunch of kernels to see if it the module is updated or something. [19:40] cant i just load onto usb? [19:44] If you want to try many kernels it is a better idea to make a dual boot or something. [19:45] You might try to do it in a vm, but that may give its own problems. [19:45] how come i need full kernels? cant i just give it a different driver or something? [19:45] obv doesnt know how it works [19:48] Drivers usually ship along with the kernel. === _monokrome is now known as monokrome [19:52] at that point id almost rather buy another adapter or something [19:52] funny thing is ive been looking and havent really come across anyone saying that anything works out of the box with server. [19:56] i mean, shouldnt i just try the official drivers on the realtek website? [19:56] or am i missing something? [20:03] Sure you can try them, if they provide propper instructions [20:03] beisner: we're ready to promote pike-staging to pike-proposed [20:04] ok coreycb on that [20:04] beisner: ty! [20:06] lordievader: i dont see any instructions lol [20:07] Could you give me a link? [20:07] http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8153 [20:11] Oh, it has a makefile: make && sudo make install [20:11] Note the second command might overwrite an existing module. [20:11] do i have to have the adapter connected for this to work, if it does work? i only have so many usb ports to work with here. [20:11] hi [20:12] I wonder what can cause this https://pastebin.com/3xgLxnhJ [20:14] https://github.com/opencart/opencart/blob/2.3.x/upload/admin/controller/extension/modification.php [20:14] why cant it unlink [20:14] and remove.. [20:16] hehehe: compare namei -l /var/www/html/system/storage/modification/system/library/template/tiwg.php output against the uid / gid of the process that is trying to issue the unlink() syscalls [20:17] sarnold: both php and nginx are www-data [20:17] and files are root:www-data [20:17] and folders also [20:18] drwxr-x--- root www-data library [20:19] -rw-r----- root www-data tiwg.php [20:20] sarnold: why else permission would be denied? [20:20] common causes [20:22] maybe selinux issue? [20:25] lordievader: so do i load the .bz2 file onto the usb or just the file inside? [20:25] madLyfe: You extract it, build it and install it ;) [20:27] hehehe: in order to delete those files the process would need to be running as root. is it? [20:27] "To compile a driver from source code requires the packages linux-headers and build-essential and all their dependencies. They would be very difficult to download and install without an internet connection." [20:28] madLyfe: heh, very true :/ [20:28] sarnold: all files are chown to root:www-data [20:29] since user www-data is in www-data group [20:29] he should be able to delete? [20:29] hehehe: drwxr-x-- [20:29] whats that in numbers? [20:30] 750/ [20:30] ? [20:30] interesting I wonder why double-click didn't select the whole thing :( [20:30] i use 640 on files [20:31] so group can only read... [20:31] 750 on dirs [20:31] read and write [20:32] sarnold: so im SOL? [20:35] madLyfe: maybe; it certainly complicates testing a new module from realtek. [20:36] madLyfe: what release are you using? maybe a newer release or HWE kernel would have newer modules [20:36] whatever the newest iso is. [20:36] got it last week [20:36] 4.4 is the kernel [20:37] doesnt have the 4.10 kernel for some reason [20:41] sarnold: Warning: fclose() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/html/system/library/log.php on line 14Warning: fclose() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/html/system/library/log.php on line 14 new error [20:41] hehe [20:41] previous was fixed via -R 770 :) [20:41] madLyfe: server or desktop image? [20:42] server [20:42] madLyfe: the 16.04.3 desktop image should have the 4.10 kernel on it, i believe [20:42] madLyfe: ah, then it will have the 4.4 kernel, yes [20:42] madLyfe: i would try the live usb of the desktop image [20:42] not sure what that means [20:42] madLyfe: what which means? [20:42] try the live usb of the desktop image [20:43] I thought the server images had both to choose from? [20:43] sarnold: i would need to double-check with a live install, but the way it seems to work is the newest server images use the base kernel [20:43] sarnold: and the newest desktop images use the hwe kernel [20:43] i upgraded my other server images to 4.10 but that needed internet. [20:43] sarnold: it's yet-another-difference we've seen in #ubuntu [20:44] madLyfe: boot the desktop installer (it's a live usb) [20:44] can you use ubuntu MAAS to deploy ANY type of server? like create a custom ubuntu desktop setup, and deploy it to 10 physical servers? [20:44] madLyfe: don't install it, just see if it works [20:45] see if the adapter work on that you mean? [20:45] madLyfe: yes [20:45] madLyfe: and/or, get the appropriate kernel packages on a different machine and copy them via usb or something [20:49]