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tgBot<kz6fittycent> man....every time I see hammerhead, I get excited for like a split second because I "think" I am seeing bullhead...00:35
tgBot<nfsprodriver> 5th century ota-push for hammerhead!00:42
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/august-23-2017-community-update-6101:29
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> This is the blog post from our latest Community Update. Thanks everyone for tuning in, asking questions, and/or reading this post!01:31
tgBot<ahoneybun> hey our docs are in RST if anyone wants to look at them01:37
tgBot<ahoneybun> and we use travis to build01:37
tgBot<ahoneybun> @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip01:38
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @ahoneybun, hmm?01:38
tgBot<ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/01:38
tgBot<ahoneybun> RST stuff01:38
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Oh, alright01:39
tgBot<ahoneybun> yea01:40
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> whaddya we got here01:40
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> ahh, rst is so satisfying01:41
ubports_botProject vivid-rootfs-armhf build #104: SUCCESS in 1 hr 32 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/104/05:59
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tgBot<thepeter> @UniversalSuperBox, πŸ‘ thx cool :)06:35
tgBot<Mohannes> @wayneoutthere, @exar_kun and me did another audiocast. Listen to the sharp criticism on the Ubuntu Membership decline and the end-user view on our community. https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubports-audiocast-006-bought-whole-foods-and-crickets-60#scrollTop=47406:55
tgBot<kristijantkalec> August 23, 2017 Community Update | UBports … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/august-23-2017-community-update-6107:38
tgBot<Milan Korecky> @neothethird, Thanks for feedback Jan, sad to hear that, not good but OK.08:13
tgBot<JBBgameich> @neothethird, At least their employees make TWRP support for the BQ devices :)08:17
tgBot<neothethird> @JBBgameich, sure, it could be worse, but in comparison to Nexus, Oneplus or Fairphone it's not that great...08:19
ubports_botProject daily-fp2 build #317: SUCCESS in 14 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/317/08:24
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tgBot<Sconio> hi08:51
tgBot<Sconio> What are the change log in update to 102 in theNexus 5 ?08:54
tgBot<neothethird> On what channel? Devel?09:18
tgBot<neothethird> I'm not sure. The new recovery installation animation (with the blinking robot) is there09:19
tgBot<aldolinux80> yep on the devel chanel... but the new recovery installation anim' were allready there in to 100... I think09:28
tgBot<advocatux> @UniversalSuperBox, Good work!09:46
tgBot<advocatux> @Mohannes, Hmm Soundcloud again? Is interesting this cat and mouse game 😜09:49
tgBot<j2g2rp> @neothethird, It's strange, i don't know anything about firmware but sometimes they share some proyects … https://github.com/bq09:50
tgBot<j2g2rp> I also don't know which things are required to do a port at allπŸ˜‚09:50
tgBot<YougoChats> everlasting time and patience i think09:51
tgBot<YougoChats> try to build, dig logs to see where and why it got stuck, scour the internet for a fix, fix it, rinse and repeat09:52
tgBot<Mohannes> @advocatux, Haha, You might think it is. Luckily we’ve got a nice endorsement from the new sponsor (spoiler). Which means we were able to get a proper soundcloud pro account.09:53
tgBot<advocatux> @Mohannes, Congrats, that sounds great πŸ‘09:54
tgBot<Mohannes> No, you sound great! πŸ˜‰10:01
tgBotIce was added by: Ice10:19
tgBot<advocatux> @Ice, Hi Ice, welcome!10:21
tgBot<Ice> Hi! Thanks! I hope to dig into some OS development in about 10 hours when I get out of work. I'm told this is an awesome group!10:22
tgBot<advocatux> πŸ‘10:23
tgBotLionelb was added by: Lionelb10:23
tgBot<advocatux> @Lionelb, Hi Lionelb, welcome!10:24
tgBot<kristijantkalec> 6 more members....11:21
tgBot<kristijantkalec> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/gP3RxV84/file_265.mp411:21
tgBot<advocatux> @kristijantkalec, Will that transform UBports into a FreeBSD project?11:26
tgBot<devsigma_bot> @advocatux, With 666 it will use NT Kernel technology11:27
tgBot<devsigma_bot> Better not take the risk11:27
tgBot<kristijantkalec> Haha πŸ˜€11:28
tgBot<Stereofont> Newbie here with a problem. (Stupidly) put Android 5.1 on my M10 FHD. Partly functions but lots of driver issues. Tried both procedures on Ubports website, to re-install Touch. Neither will complete. Seems the bootloader locked very firmly πŸ€”. I authorised OEM and debugging but neither help. Could be that bug indicates OEM enabled when actually not? Any suggestions about what to try next?11:51
tgBot<YougoChats> have you tried the bq tool (be very careful with it's settings!)?11:55
tgBotkrishnan_ts was added by: krishnan_ts11:58
tgBot<Stereofont> The latest flash tool? Yes. Even manual unlocking with a dedicated json file fails12:00
tgBot<krishnan_ts> installed the ubports image with mdt and found openstore is not working. Its been fetching package list for about an hour. i've tried manually installing the click package, clearing the cache and config, yet i'm stuck with the same problem. any ideas on how to solve this?12:01
tgBot<Stereofont> Volume up and volume down keys are reversed in 5.1 so Y/N is tricky too LOL12:01
tgBot<advocatux> @krishnan_ts, I've tried OpenStore now and it's working. Are you sure you have data or wifi enabled?12:04
tgBot<krishnan_ts> yes i have wifi enabled12:05
tgBot<advocatux> @krishnan_ts, Sorry for ask again but have you tested the wifi connection is working?12:07
tgBot<krishnan_ts> yes its working :)12:08
tgBot<advocatux> @krishnan_ts, Then I don't know because OpenStore is working for me12:11
tgBot<advocatux> Which channel are you using?12:11
tgBot<mymike00> @Stereofont, I think you should install first the canonical image of UT and then with MDT you can install the ubports image iirc12:13
tgBot<krishnan_ts> @advocatux, there was only the legacy channel in mdt.. is there any other channel? it was not allowing me to choose anything else.12:13
tgBot<krishnan_ts> i had linage os previously.. and my device is bacon btw12:14
tgBot<advocatux> @krishnan_ts, No, but it's better to confirm this kind of things than assume and answer based on that assumption. … I'm sorry but I don't know why your OpenStore updating is failing πŸ˜…12:18
tgBot<krishnan_ts> @advocatux, πŸ€”. I'll try reinstalling the image then12:21
tgBot<advocatux> @krishnan_ts, Try to reinstall just the OpenStore app. You can do it with mdt12:22
tgBot<krishnan_ts> @advocatux, i tried that multiple times.. it just dosent work12:23
tgBot<Stereofont> @mymike00, The problem is that I cannot flash any OS at all. Magic tool came close. But: erasing cache, failed. remote unknown command: erasing userdata. failed. remote unknown command: same with erasing system and erasing recovery12:30
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tgBot<Stereofont> @mymike00, I tried procedure in Techradar for installing UT from Canonical Universe repository. Same communication/bootloader fail13:14
tgBotisrael2018 was added by: israel201813:16
tgBot<exar_kun> @Mohannes, @advocatux , it looks like the feed is now here (again?) : http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:317476118/sounds.rss14:09
tgBot<S T> An interesting new hardware target? https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/14:15
tgBot<rogieroudshoorn> non-specified hardware ... but i'll probably support anyway14:23
tgBot<Milan Korecky> @exar_kun, I can also see them14:24
tgBot<exar_kun> @Milan Korecky, 😊14:28
tgBot<advocatux> @exar_kun, Thank you. And it works in Podbird πŸ‘14:36
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> Podbird is the best14:38
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @S T, So if I'm reading this right, they're cramming GNOME shell into a 5" form factor (and they don't say how), shipping in June 2018 at the earliest, don't know what their specs are, and will ship with the most base of software custom-made for the smaller screen. … To say the least, I'm skeptical.14:52
tgBot<S T> @UniversalSuperBox, if it has free drivers you should be able to run anything on it.14:54
tgBot<LarreaMikel> it has another interesting approach... https://matrix.org/blog/2017/08/24/the-librem-5-from-purism-a-matrix-native-smartphone/14:55
tgBot<garrogarri> Here is another one! https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/14:55
tgBot<garrogarri> @LarreaMikel, Hey! πŸ˜†14:56
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 796x124) https://irc.ubports.com/0vhSBNsX/file_266.jpg14:56
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> What if you don’t reach the funding target? … It will show that there is not enough interest in producing a device that focuses on security, privacy, and digital rights, which will be a tremendous social disappointment. If we don’t reach our target then all contributions will be fully refunded.14:56
tgBot<Stereofont> Interest + having $599 knocking around …14:58
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Yeah, that's a guilt trip that I dislike.14:59
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> If it ships, someone will probably get Unity8 running on it and we'll be in business.15:00
tgBot<Flohack> We can wait and see xd15:05
tgBot<Andre BΓΌsgen> Has anyone got a working development environment for ubports on Debian?15:06
tgBot<Andre BΓΌsgen> I tried using lxd (as snap) but even the setup seems almost impossible.15:08
tgBot<thepeter> @UniversalSuperBox, mhm a bit crazy question came to me seeing this ... why are we not creating our own "UBports native" phone this way? (though indiegogo backing or so ...)15:19
tgBot<bhushanshah> It's hard15:19
tgBot<thepeter> @bhushanshah, true, like porting OS to not so open SoC using other not so open system core isn't15:22
tgBot<bhushanshah> I am not talking about OS yet... just hardware is hard15:22
tgBot<thepeter> I get it ... but there are single person project done already ... it is not like nothing has been done in the field yet15:24
tgBot<thepeter> projects ^15:24
tgBot<rogieroudshoorn> hmm those Socs for the purism phone are essentially 4 years old today15:26
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @thepeter, No, it's not just hard. It's hard. Like, need a full-time person just to work on a single aspect of it hard.15:27
tgBot<rogieroudshoorn> damn i wish intel could have stuck in there, that might have helped15:27
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Remember the StationDock? All of the prototypes were "Lost in transit" the first time because China. The only way we could get prototypes was to have them ship a blank board and do the soldering manually.15:28
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> If you don't have a big partner that's been around the track a few times before (and they're expensive), you're not going to get your product.15:29
tgBot<thepeter> @UniversalSuperBox, ok ok I understand that ... and that probably can be calculated into backing ... I just want to appoint that ther projects I am mentiong afre real working prototypes /15:30
tgBot<thepeter> and are opensource15:30
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Which ones?15:30
tgBot<thepeter> but with one breath I want to add I have lost track of them a little :D15:31
tgBot<thepeter> will look for project name15:31
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> If you need a good counterexample... look at the original Purism Librems. Look at Mycroft. Anything that's been crowdfunded, really. You always ship late, and you always ship a less-than-promised product.15:32
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Right now we're focused on nailing the software before we ever try to get a hardware platform. We want to nail Halium so we can build on the platforms that others have already made and are shipping.15:33
tgBot<thepeter> okay it was just an idea :)15:34
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> I guess I won't rule out ever shipping a phone with Ubuntu Touch. But that's a dream that we aren't going to realize in the short term.15:34
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> So... let's make the software shine so much that a vendor contacts us to ship a phone. ;)15:34
tgBot<thepeter> yep alright :) just quickly found this one https://hackaday.io/project/5083-diy-smartphone but that is a bulky version of what I found the other day :)15:36
tgBot<thepeter> this is obviously not woth it :)15:37
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @thepeter, I want one just to say I have one15:37
tgBot<thepeter> :)15:38
tgBot<thepeter> by not wort it I meant not wort of croudfundung project troubles :)15:40
tgBot<YougoChats> It also has consequences the other way around. If you want to make a pure Linux phone, you /have/ to have some stability in hardware. Controlling the hardware is almost a must then.15:40
tgBot<YougoChats> but also means your hardware will be ancient by the time you're done15:41
tgBot<rogieroudshoorn> especially if you aim for convergence, like Purism is stating15:43
tgBot<YougoChats> the upborts/halium way at least has a good chance of spreading to modern hardware imo15:43
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Mhmm, and that's why you go with an OEM/ODM who has done it before.15:43
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Android OEMs have shipped HDMI out. They've shipped phones with the newest processors. But... they haven't separated the CPU from the Baseband. Or shipped a mainline kerne.15:45
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> You need to make compromises, for sure.15:45
tgBot<mariogrip> @UniversalSuperBox, Im not sure where they will find a soc that supports seperate cpu from rpu, and forget about trying to make that in house15:46
tgBot<rogieroudshoorn> i guess in the long term, whatever you do, whomever has the easiest maintable OS will win it15:46
tgBot<mariogrip> @mariogrip, else that that it seems posseble15:47
tgBot<YougoChats> (Photo, 1080x607) https://irc.ubports.com/G6zLPX7h/file_267.jpg15:48
tgBot<advocatux> Anyone interested in hardware development should read "The Hardware Hacker: Adventures in Making and Breaking Hardware" by Andrew 'Bunnie' Huang. … And yes Mycroft I'm looking at you πŸ˜†15:48
tgBot<YougoChats> Netzahualcoyotl ?15:48
tgBot<mariogrip> an option would be a soc with both on it, but then disable the the baseband in the soc and add another one, but still a waste of mony since the baseband will be closed sources anyway if they want to sell it un USA15:49
tgBot<mariogrip> but i really hope it succeed, since it's a big step for linux mobile15:50
tgBot<YougoChats> I agree, but it all reads even less likely than what the Edge promised15:51
tgBotMicah was added by: Micah15:54
tgBot<rogieroudshoorn> @mariogrip, Which is why i'll order one on general principle. Not that i hope to ever use it ... by january 2019 i hope there's a UBPorts good enough phone16:01
tgBotWouter Jansen was added by: Wouter Jansen16:55
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Welcome!16:55
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tgBotHenry Sazo was added by: Henry Sazo17:47
tgBot<neothethird> Welcome :)17:47
tgBot<Henry Sazo> (Sticker, 276x512) https://irc.ubports.com/6cQdifVq/1842540969984061.webp17:47
tgBot<neothethird> @UniversalSuperBox, my message is nicer 😜17:47
tgBot<Henry Sazo> Solo hablo español😒17:48
tgBot<neothethird> @Henry Sazo, problemo: hablo no espanol17:49
tgBot<Henry Sazo> πŸ˜”πŸ˜”17:50
tgBot<mimecar> Henry, puedes usar Google Translate17:50
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ … intresting17:50
tgBot<mimecar> https://translate.google.es/17:50
tgBot<Henry Sazo> GraciasπŸ‘ Miguel17:51
tgBot<mimecar> he can use Google Translate, is not a native speech but it is an option17:52
tgBot<Alexander> @TronFourtyTwo, I just discovered the librem 11(still not aviaible) , the tablet of purism , could it be theoretically ported without many problems to ubports and install Ubuntu Touch?17:53
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> And they will use matrix natively … https://matrix.org/blog/2017/08/24/the-librem-5-from-purism-a-matrix-native-smartphone/17:54
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Is there any bot on telegram that automatically translates to the English?17:54
tgBot<Henry Sazo> I'm using Miguel and if it works !!!17:55
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @Henry Sazo, It works.17:56
tgBot<Alexander> @Vijay Kumar, https://storebot.me/bot/ytranslatebot17:56
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Side note: But I hope @mimecar  doesn't mind πŸ˜„17:56
tgBot<mimecar> He's using me πŸ˜ƒ17:56
tgBot<mimecar> Although the phrase is rare, it is understood17:57
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Yeah I understand. 😊17:57
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @Alexander, How good it is? Can we add it here. I am not very tg savvy. Also I only have tg for ubports . So no place for me to test. Btw how does it work?18:00
tgBot<Henry Sazo> If understoodπŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„18:00
tgBotYTranslateBot was added by: Vijay Kumar18:02
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @Vijay Kumar, es18:03
tgBot<exar_kun> Hello18:05
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @exar_kun, How to use it?18:05
tgBot<exar_kun> @Vijay Kumar, use the @ to the bot and type something in a different language, then a menu pops up to choose the translation18:06
tgBot<exar_kun> From the Japanese translation18:06
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> I talk to friends18:07
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> I wrote hablo amigos πŸ˜‚18:07
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Oh no it translates every sentence to English. 😞😞18:07
tgBot<Ben> Das ist ein echt toller Bot18:08
tgBot<Ben> Lol18:08
tgBot<garrogarri> It will generate a lot of chaos18:08
tgBot<Ben> Schâne Grüße aus Kroatien18:08
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @garrogarri, That's my point18:09
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Una pragunta18:09
tgBot<Ben> XD18:09
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Should we keep it18:09
tgBot<vanyasem> @Vijay Kumar, Sure not.18:09
tgBot<garrogarri> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/W2X6Dye7/572134332961914940.webp18:09
tgBot<Ben> Ich finde schon18:09
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> I stopped it. I don't know if I have the privilege to do it.18:10
tgBot<Ben> Dobar dan18:10
tgBot<garrogarri> I don't think so18:10
tgBot<vanyasem> @Vijay Kumar, You need to completely remove it from the group.18:10
tgBot<Ben> Es ist nett, aber noch nicht ganz ausgereift18:11
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Somebody from admins need to remove it. Sorry guys. Also it could have been better if other people don't see the translated messages.18:11
tgBot<neothethird> oh god18:12
tgBotYTranslateBot was removed by: neothethird18:12
tgBot<Ben> XD18:12
tgBot<garrogarri> @neothethird, Thank you18:12
tgBot<vanyasem> @neothethird, Thank you.18:12
tgBot<vanyasem> oh you can reply to actions. didn't know that.18:13
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @neothethird  sorry . And thank you.18:13
tgBot<neothethird> @Vijay Kumar, it's alright :D was worth a try18:13
tgBot<neothethird> but that would be too much chaos in this group18:13
tgBot<Ben> Yes18:13
tgBot<neothethird> @vanyasem, yeah, but not in every client18:13
tgBot<garrogarri> Yeah, but it was funny for short time18:13
tgBot<neothethird> :D yes18:13
tgBot<Ben> :D yes18:14
tgBot<vanyasem> why not just use an external translator and then forward the message here? and vise-versa.18:14
tgBot<vanyasem> if you need to, of cource.18:14
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Yes. But I think for groups where majority don't speak English then setting comman language to English would be great and people can communicate. It was though but. It was creating spam for others.18:14
tgBot<exar_kun> Yandex bot *was* the 666th member :O Destined for trouble.18:15
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> I was thinking that @exar_kun18:15
tgBot<exar_kun> But who will be next ? :P18:15
tgBot<vanyasem> MailRu bot?18:16
tgBot<vanyasem> (that's a joke though, it's an another Russian company that provides a productivity suite)18:17
tgBot<neothethird> @exar_kun, that can't be a coincidence18:17
tgBot<vanyasem> Yandex is evil. At least within Russia. But that's offtop.18:17
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @vanyasem, Ease of use is the thing. In case of external translators you need to open translator, type then copy paste . This was not perfect but soon I guess we'll have things like auto translators for people speaking different languages18:18
tgBot<vanyasem> Gboard (Google keyboard for Android) has Google Translator built-in, I believe.18:19
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> I think its transliteration not translation18:19
tgBot<neothethird> @vanyasem, so everything you type is sent home, that's healthy18:20
tgBot<vanyasem> (Photo, 1080x1207) https://irc.ubports.com/WAnWpPiP/file_268.jpg18:20
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @Alexander, To bring things back on track, since it doesn't exist it's hard to say18:20
tgBot<vanyasem> @neothethird, Is Yandex better in any way? 🌝18:21
tgBot<neothethird> @vanyasem, didn't say that :D18:21
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @vanyasem, I don't know Russian. So someone bilingual need to test that feature . If it's translation then we solved a great problem of non English speaking people in our group 😊😊18:22
tgBot<vanyasem> @Vijay Kumar, Russian is my native language...18:23
tgBot<vanyasem> I am bilingual. And I've tested it enough in the past.18:23
tgBot<neothethird> @UniversalSuperBox, let's be cautiously optimistic and continue with what we're doing18:23
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @vanyasem, Wow.18:23
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Then next time someone comes we could tell them this thing18:23
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> And πŸ‘18:23
tgBot<vanyasem> Can't you tell by my name? I have the most Russian name ever - Ivan.18:24
tgBot<neothethird> lol, that's literally what i was about to type18:24
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> Ooh ivan. " I need my bird "πŸ˜‚18:25
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> If you get the reference..18:25
tgBot<vanyasem> @Vijay Kumar, Of course I do. :)18:26
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @vanyasem, Naaice18:29
tgBot<vanyasem> You can always PM me if you decide to chat some more.18:36
tgBotEinerVonVielen was added by: EinerVonVielen18:40
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> HE IS THE CURSED ONE!18:40
tgBot<EinerVonVielen> hey @all18:41
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 176x42) https://irc.ubports.com/J0OyYgFn/file_269.jpg18:41
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Hi @EinerVonVielen. :P18:41
tgBot<EinerVonVielen> yes iam the 666! :D18:41
tgBot<neothethird> And yet you're just one of the many18:41
tgBot<YougoChats> with that name it has to be18:41
tgBot<YougoChats> his name is legion18:41
tgBot<jcjordyn120> @UniversalSuperBox, It's the Devils group18:42
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @jcjordyn120, Damn it somebody left18:43
tgBotvanyasem was added by: vanyasem18:43
tgBot<vanyasem> Now I'm the 666th!18:44
tgBot<vanyasem> (I just needed an excuse to get drunk, sorry)18:44
tgBot<EinerVonVielen> no 665 :-/ one more left the groupe18:44
tgBot<jcjordyn120> @Vijay Kumar, Yea18:45
tgBot<vanyasem> refresh the chat/18:45
tgBot<vanyasem> (Photo, 493x162) https://irc.ubports.com/vnuURBRH/file_270.jpg18:45
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Nah, @EinerVonVielen will always be the true 66618:45
tgBot<vanyasem> Don't ruin my excuse to get drunk!18:45
tgBot<EinerVonVielen> πŸ˜‰ thx @UniversalSuperBox18:45
tgBot<EinerVonVielen> πŸ˜ƒ18:46
tgBot<YougoChats> (Photo, 800x800) https://irc.ubports.com/Ohxwvrsz/file_271.jpg small consolidation πŸ˜‰18:46
tgBot<neothethird> you're russian, i think you're good18:47
tgBot<Vijay Kumar> @UniversalSuperBox, Noooo it was the bot18:49
tgBot<YougoChats> evil bot? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=evie+is+evil18:58
tgBot<vanyasem> basically, alsmost every Telegram bot is evil.19:06
tgBot<vanyasem> if not self-hosted, of course.19:06
tgBot<neothethird> i like @ubports_bot19:06
tgBot<vanyasem> it's self-hosted though.19:06
tgBot<vanyasem> so it's trusted within the community.19:06
tgBot<YougoChats> @Dalton is ok too19:07
tgBot<vanyasem> bots usually do nasty logging and surveilence.19:07
tgBot<vanyasem> and promote non-free software and services.19:07
tgBot<vanyasem> webhook bots are a different thing, as you don't give them any of your data.19:08
tgBot<vanyasem> I also like @GitLab_bot :)19:08
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tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @YougoChats, oy!19:29
tgBot<YougoChats> hmmm?19:29
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Reminder @catsofubuntu is spamming groups you love, because you'll love it19:38
tgBot<vanyasem> I can't promote my channel, as it's in Russian (19:48
tgBot<vanyasem> It's about living in digital freedom and (surprise) underground russian rap. (@is_ivan)19:49
tgBot<UnityEx> The Telegram bot api has recently received a new update20:24
tgBot<jsalatas> @TronFourtyTwo, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/purism-librem-5-linux-phone-crowdfunding20:26
tgBot<Schyken> O_o20:27
tgBot<Schyken> Much interested, somewhat skeptical20:27
tgBot<UnityEx> It kinda looks like a miniature tablet20:28
tgBot<Schyken> Yeah, lol the aesthetic is very shrunk tab20:28
tgBot<Schyken> What in the blue sea is an i.MX6 processor20:29
tgBot<Schyken> Ugh, I need to read about another one of these little boogers20:29
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @Schyken, ARM thing from 4 years ago20:29
tgBot<Schyken> Probably why I haven't heard of it20:29
tgBot<Schyken> Only really got into tech in the past few years20:29
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> This is officially the eighth time that someone has posted about the Librem 5 in a UBports community outlet20:30
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes, I'm keeping count20:30
tgBot<Schyken> I would πŸ˜†20:30
tgBot<jsalatas> @UniversalSuperBox, Maybe you should create a sticky post or something: "You don't talk about librem 5" :p20:32
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Nah, it'd be more like, "Yes, we know about the Librem 5. No, we don't have plans to port to it. Yes, we will consider it when it exists."20:33
tgBot<jsalatas> @UniversalSuperBox, πŸ‘20:34
tgBot<UnityEx> @jsalatas, You kinda look like a mix of Mike Shinoda and Chuck Norris20:35
tgBot<rubencarneiro> @UniversalSuperBox, hummm20:35
tgBot<Schyken> @UnityEx, My mind wasn't creative enough to see past Chuck Norris20:35
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @rubencarneiro, You think that's a good idea?20:35
tgBot<UnityEx> @Schyken, But he really does, right?20:36
tgBot<Aury88> Is there an UBports image for raspberryP? Isn't it open-hardware/source? I know that can be used for phone and sms comunications, but could help test the siftware/apps...it is cheap and already exists πŸ€“20:36
tgBot<Schyken> @UnityEx, I think so :D20:36
tgBot<rubencarneiro> @UniversalSuperBox, well when i first saw the librem os it was a mockup of a gnome envirioment for phones, and i dont think is bad a idea also. a gnome based envirioment for handsets.20:37
tgBot<UnityEx> @Aury88, Can't you theoretically just install Ubuntu itself on it?20:37
tgBot<Aury88> *can't20:37
tgBot<mymike00> @Aury88, No I don't think it already exist...20:38
tgBot<Aury88> Yes, but i can't try click apps and snappy-ubuntu-core20:38
tgBot<mymike00> @Flohack, Jan removed the bot...20:38
tgBot<JBBgameich> Install Ubuntu Server, add the UBports ppa and Just install everything which is included in UBports. Maybe that works20:38
tgBot<UnityEx> That would be the easiest way to try it20:39
tgBot<UnityEx> Ubuntu Server doesn't have any xserver on its own?20:40
tgBot<Aury88> I know only snappy-ubuntu-core on raspberry. Didn't know was possible to install ubuntu server and over it the ubports20:41
tgBot<JBBgameich> There was an image for the Pi, but it's not that good maintained. You probably have ti find the build Script and build it yourself20:42
tgBot<rubencarneiro> @UniversalSuperBox, nice app https://qtox.github.io/20:42
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> uh?20:43
tgBot<JBBgameich> @JBBgameich, (Ubuntu Server image)20:43
tgBot<Sconio> ahhh qtox yes20:44
tgBot<Sconio> for ubport possible ?20:44
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> @Sconio, Anything's possible, if someone develops it.20:44
tgBot<Aury88> @JBBgameich, Ok. I will search for it.20:44
tgBot<Sconio> ok20:44
tgBot<UnityEx> How about asking the devs of qtox?20:45
tgBot<UnityEx> In the end it's open source20:45
tgBot<rubencarneiro> as long is open is nice20:46
tgBot<UnityEx> So anyone with the skills could develop it for ub20:46
tgBot<Sconio> yes and it's server and client20:47
tgBot<Sconio> all in20:47
tgBot<JBBgameich> @Aury88, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi20:47
tgBot<Aury88> @JBBgameich, Thank you very much20:49
tgBot<Aury88> πŸ‘20:49
tgBot<garrogarri> @rubencarneiro, Yeah, I used it. Also Wire is good20:51
tgBot<Sconio> best app p2p20:54
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @advocatux, we cover this issue in the audio itself (ironically), haha20:57
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Ice, you were told correctly, yet, we need you and more folks to get where we are going.  Wecome.20:58
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @PhoenixLandPirate, @exar_kun did you file that 'feature request' for 2x playback speed so people here can listen to us like chipmunks?21:00
tgBot<advocatux> @wayneoutthere, I'm going to listen the audicast now 🀘21:00
ubports_botProject daily-bacon build #248: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-bacon/248/21:02
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @advocatux, DON't DO IT!!  Are you licensed??21:02
tgBot<exar_kun> @wayneoutthere, https://bugs.launchpad.net/podbird/+bug/142958021:02
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1429580 in podbird "Provide option to speed up podcast playback" [Wishlist,Triaged]21:02
ubports_botProject ota-push build #904: SUCCESS in 1 min 4 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/904/21:03
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @UniversalSuperBox, If you build it (the OS) they will come (the hardware investors).21:04
tgBot<Schyken> Man, I wish21:06
tgBot<Schyken> It's more like, if you build it, you have a higher chance of succeeding when you badger them into it πŸ˜†21:06
tgBot<wayneoutthere> this was the highlight of this chapter....21:07
tgBot<advocatux> @wayneoutthere, f*ckdapoliss I'm listening to AND torrenting it πŸ”₯ πŸ“‘πŸ’Ύ21:09
tgBot<Sconio> oh shite21:10
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @advocatux, sweet. i hope you read our license.  it says you *must* by law, force your family and friends to listen the cast and share it with their friends.  That big guy standing outside of your room there is here to make sure you get it done...21:11
tgBot<advocatux> @wayneoutthere, but but that guy has a librem tshirt!21:16
ryanhi21:26
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Guest12736hi i need help to install ubuntu touch21:26
Guest12736whoami21:28
tgBot<Stereofont> What device?21:30
tgBot<vanyasem> And what's exactly the problem? The guide on the website is pretty straightforward, I believe.21:32
tgBot<advocatux> @wayneoutthere, I've listened the last oh-dio-cast. … Good fun!22:23
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @advocatux, Oh Dio!! … That's a great little linguistic winner you just found there, Tuxicles!22:31
tgBot<advocatux> 😁22:31
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Whoop, I bet that guy was trying to get a hold of us while the bot was offline23:25
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Guest12736, you still there by any chance23:26
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 865x154) https://irc.ubports.com/k0Nsy5Fn/file_272.jpg It's okay that excited about this phone but... come on guys, the first thread never left the homepage. Now we have three!23:27
tgBot<neothethird> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/hdWB3ezp/file_273.mp423:32
tgBot<rubencarneiro> @UniversalSuperBox, We should incentivate any initiative to put a linux is in handsets.23:41
tgBot<rubencarneiro> Ubuntu touch, sailfish, plasma mobile, purism23:42
tgBot<icethecold> Anyone know where a good starting place for building an initramfs without all the android tools is? I keep trying to build from the ground up rather than work my way backwards from the existing.23:45
tgBot<rubencarneiro> @UniversalSuperBox, Ohhh is in our ubports fΓ³rum, loooolllll23:51
thrrgilag@UniversalSuperBox That guest user left the IRC channel as soon as they sent the message.23:57
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> k-lined?23:58
thrrgilagCan't tell from the matrix client.23:59
thrrgilagBut possibly23:59

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