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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers05:20
dufluMorning oSoMoN05:39
oSoMoNgood afternoon duflu05:44
jibelgood morning05:48
jibelhi duflu oSoMoN05:48
dufluHey jibel05:49
oSoMoNbonjour jibel05:50
ejatThe following packages will be REMOVED:07:16
ejat  checkbox-converged libsidplay2v5 libubuntugestures5 libubuntutoolkit5 qml-module-ubuntu-components qml-module-ubuntu-components-labs07:16
ejatsafe to remove?07:16
Mirvejat: yes, those were removed from archives now as they were incompatible with new Qt07:41
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Laneymoin08:03
dufluMorning Laney08:03
* duflu wonders if a Friday afternoon is a good time to discover Gnome 3.26 and the minor bugs it brings08:03
seb128good morning desktopers08:07
dufluHi seb12808:07
jameshhi Laney, seb12808:07
dufluHi jamesh too ;)08:08
jameshSo it looks like gnome-software itself won't need any modification to support polkit auth for snap install08:08
jameshit just worked08:08
seb128hey duflu jamesh willcooke08:09
seb128how is everyone today?08:09
seb128jamesh, did they ack the changes?08:09
willcookemorning08:09
jameshseb128: not yet.  They've been marked as needing niemeyer's review08:10
jameshseb128: but mvo was interested in fast tracking them for snapd 2.2808:10
Laneyhi duflu jamesh seb128 willcooke08:13
seb128hey Laney, happy friday!08:15
Laneyyeah!08:15
willcookeLaney, nice detective work on that n-m patch. Will try and build it this morning08:15
dufluMorning willcooke08:15
Laneykool beanz08:16
seb128willcooke, didrocks, how is the London hacking going?08:17
Laneyseb128: bank holiday weekend for us too ;-)08:18
Laneyyou got qweekend plans/08:18
Laneytyping hard08:18
seb128Laney, you have monday off then?08:21
seb128Laney, driving back to .nl and we have friends who come to visit for the w.e08:21
seb128weather should be nice so probably some walking around and a bbq08:22
Laneyyeah08:22
seb128and you, any plans for the long w.e?08:22
Laneynice, you guys and your bbqs08:22
Laneyseeing some school friends tomorrow08:22
Laneyotherwise not so much, probably go kill some weeds08:23
jameshLooks like the next WA public holiday is during the sprint08:24
jameshcelebrating the Queen's birthday08:26
willcookemorning seb128, going well!08:26
didrocksseb128: busy08:28
didrocksseb128: didn't really sleep08:28
didrockslike woke up at 308:28
didrocksand worked on that08:28
didrocksalso, I think there will be a lot of work afterwards to polish and push things08:29
Trevinho:o08:29
Trevinhowillcooke: did you find the icon then?08:29
didrocksI think if the gdm issues need to be fixed quickly, maybe robert will be better than I?08:29
didrocksI had a look in the train in08:29
didrocksand didn't see anything relevant in gdm08:29
didrocksI think it's a gdm <-> account-services things08:29
seb128didrocks, what bug is that08:30
seb128?08:30
didrocksso, if anyone as more expertise in it, I would welcome them looking at it (wrong session chosen, how to set a default session…)08:30
didrocks3 of them, maybe related:08:30
didrocks"pick the wrong session"08:30
didrocks"no default session assigned"08:30
didrocksand bug #171250408:30
ubot5bug 1712504 in gdm (Ubuntu) "No 'Ubuntu' session after an upgrade from Zesty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171250408:30
seb128k08:32
seb128I can try to have a look/talk to Robert on monday08:32
didrocksthanks! I can find back the reference for the other bugs if needed08:32
didrocks(or do you have them handy?)08:33
seb128I don't have them but should be easy to find them on launchpad08:33
willcookeTrevinho, @icon- gave up08:33
willcooke:)08:33
willcookethe default is fine08:33
Trevinhowillcooke: I sent you the name didn't you see that?08:34
Trevinhothere are three style-sheet-dialog prefixed08:34
willcookeTrevinho, yeah, but it was png right?08:34
Trevinhonope, svg's08:34
willcookehm, will look again later08:35
Trevinhowillcooke: oh, no sorry... I checked again they're png yes... I remember I asked for them in SVGs years ago, but.... there was no time for them08:36
didrocksseb128: bug #1705157, and I don't find the bug anymore for the "ubuntu" session should be set by default08:36
ubot5bug 1705157 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "On fresh install or fresh boot greeter always show "ubuntu" though selected session may be ubuntu-wayland" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170515708:36
didrocks(pretty sure it's gdm again, and not gnome-session)08:36
didrocksor account-services08:36
didrocksas told08:36
Trevinhowell, making svgs wouldn't be a big deal I can probably do that08:36
didrocksseb128: no way to set a default session via gdm, the default is hardcoded "gnome"08:37
didrocksif account-services don't give it in some ways?08:37
willcookeTrevinho, don't worry, the default are close enough to ours, so no action required I think08:39
seb128didrocks, :-(08:40
seb128didrocks, I don't think accountsservice does08:41
seb128I'm going to try to debug it08:41
seb128I let you know08:41
didrocksthanks seb12808:41
seb128yw!08:41
flexiondotorgMOrning desktopers08:52
flexiondotorgdidrocks This is the ticket for publishing https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/284808:52
didrocks(done)08:55
dufluHi flexiondotorg08:56
seb128good morning flexiondotorg08:56
flexiondotorgduflu seb128 o/08:57
c-lobranohi all :). Trevinho , Laney I opened bug #1712996 for the themes issues you told me yesterday. What do you think about this solution? https://imgur.com/a/VZfBh (I still do not know what's the exact ubuntu orange color though)09:01
ubot5bug 1712996 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Misaligned Entry borders in horizontally linked Box" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171299609:01
Trevinhoc-lobrano: cool, looks good09:02
c-lobranogood, I'll push it then09:04
Trevinhoc-lobrano: should be @selected_bg_color09:04
Trevinhoc-lobrano: which actually has many aliases, so pick the one that looks better09:05
c-lobranoTrevinho: @selected_bg_color seems fine, thanks!09:05
Trevinhoc-lobrano: actually @focus_color09:05
c-lobranoTrevinho: @focus_color is darker09:06
c-lobrano*seems09:06
Trevinhoack09:08
c-lobranoUhm, actually radiance doesn't look right yet09:18
Laneyhey c-lobrano09:27
Laneythey look nice to me09:27
Laneywhat was it, missing border colour?09:27
c-lobranoHi Laney09:30
c-lobranoborder color is fine now, but in radiance the missing of entry's top and bottom borders is more visible and doesn't look good09:31
c-lobranoin image viewer at least, evince is fine09:32
jbichaLaney: ok if I merge glib2.0?13:38
LaneyI'm not TIL on that, you might want to ask that person :-)13:39
Laneybut ok with me13:39
jbichakenvandine: is indicator-network useful outside of Unity8?14:01
kenvandinejbicha, i don't think we've ever used it elsewhere14:15
kenvandinejbicha, it does actually provide a handy connectivity API, but that doesn't have any rdepends so must not have been used outside of unity8/ubuntu touch14:24
jbichakenvandine: does it work in Unity7? if so, I think it wouldn't hurt to keep it14:25
kenvandinejbicha, i think technically it could work in unity714:25
kenvandinecairo-dock depends on it14:26
kenvandineso i guess keep it in universe14:26
kenvandineat one point there was a goal of using it in place of nm-applet14:26
kenvandinebut that never happened14:26
jbichait uses libqofono ?14:27
kenvandineoh... yeah i guess it does14:27
jbichaI was just finding old stuff to remove, LP: #171307614:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1713076 in libiphb (Ubuntu) "Please remove more orphaned unity8 packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171307614:28
kenvandineit can display cellular connections as well as wifi14:28
willcookejbicha, Laney - IS have updated the conn check to use HTTP \o/14:28
kenvandinebut ofono isn't a hard requirement, just libqofono14:28
jbichaok14:28
willcookejbicha, could you land the snippet when you get a mo?14:28
willcookejbicha, also FYI- the problems I was having were tracked down to a bug in curl and Laney has uploaded a fix14:29
jbichawillcooke: that curl patch works for you then?14:29
willcookejbicha, yup, and for p_opey who tested it as well14:30
Laneyforget you https14:31
jbichawillcooke: maybe Monday, I have some concerns about the config pkg name I'm discussing with Debian GNOME14:31
Laneyyou probably want to wait for the fixed curl to migrate anyway14:32
willcookejbicha, roger that, thanks!14:32
jbichawe could land now but I think it might be better to wait a little to not need to change the pkg name if we decide to14:32
willcookenot on a Friday, etc etc14:32
willcookeI can wait :)14:32
willcookehttps://youtu.be/hpIeCBuTG0M14:33
willcookeproof!14:33
jbichaCategory: Comedy14:33
willcookeerr, oops14:37
willcookefixed, thanks jbicha14:38
* didrocks is waiting for the next train in Lille15:44
didrocks(enjoying the new theme on my laptop)15:44
mhall119kenvandine: hey, when do you want to start working on Unity->GNOME migration documentation for Artful?16:31
mhall119as we discussed at GUADEC16:31
kenvandinehey mhall11916:32
kenvandinemhall119, i was just thinking about that this morning after i saw the BoF notes :)16:32
kenvandinemhall119, want to do some brainstorming early next week?16:33
kenvandinemonday or tuesday?16:33
mhall119kenvandine: sure, there are a few others who wanted to help, I'll send out a poll for a day and time for a kickoff call16:35
kenvandinecool16:35
kenvandinemhall119, thanks!16:35
* kenvandine wants a way to track bugs for snap packages like we do for ubuntu packages16:41
amanodidrocks, Gnome Shell 2.24? Rather 3.2416:55
amano(your blog post)16:56
Laneyright, got to rush off!17:00
Laneysee you tuesday17:00
andyrockmpt: so I removed the spinner but in this way the backend and the frontend are not in sync17:03
andyrockso for example it's hard to handle the case of multiple clicks17:03
andyrockor the case sign in... -> enable -> sing out (while still enabling)17:04
andyrockwould be way more easy from a developer point of view to have the ui syncronized with the backend17:04
andyrockanother soluzion is to not allow multiple clicks, but then the ui does not feel responsive17:05
kenvandineeog snap is in the store, with a couple bugs but strict confinement :)18:44
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ahoneybunhttps://didrocks.fr/2017/08/25/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-8/20:02
ahoneybunsays 2.24 and 2.26 and not 3.24 and 3.2620:02
* oSoMoN signs off, have a good week-end everyone20:25

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