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[09:46] <jolexin> my start panel with the application menu tree doeas not appear after login
[09:47] <jolexin> what can I do?
[10:54] <gordonjcp> morning
[10:54] <gordonjcp> in 17.10, is the Advanced menu gone?
[10:54] <gordonjcp> I'm not seeing a way to enable it
[12:21] <Eightynine> Is it safe to install HWE stack update for Ubuntu 16.04?
[14:18] <gordonjcp> in 17.10, is the Advanced menu gone?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> in mate-tweak there is a dropdown with four options but none of them seem to be the advanced menu
[14:29] <vkareh> gordonjcp: It's no longer switchable in mate-tweak. As far as I can see, only the Redmond layout uses it by default. You can still add it manually, though (it's still included in the install)
[16:42] <gordonjcp> vkareh: yeah, I can use the redmond layout and move the bar to the top, it's pretty close
[16:43] <vkareh> gordonjcp: you can also choose whichever panel layout and manually add it (right-click -> Add to Panel... -> Advanced MATE Menu)
[16:44] <gordonjcp> aha
[16:45] <gordonjcp> seems to be more than just a name change though :-)
[16:46] <vkareh> gordonjcp: what do you mean?
[16:50] <gordonjcp> I think it's laid out differently, or something, I'd need to compare it to 16.04
[16:50] <gordonjcp> it's close enough for muscle memory to work again though :-)
[16:51] <gordonjcp> what's with the names, redmond and cupertino?
[16:55] <vkareh> gordonjcp: Redmond => Microsoft; Cupertino => Apple (those are the cities where the respective companies reside) :P
[16:58] <gordonjcp> oh, cool
[16:58] <gordonjcp> so if I wanted to switch to Windows, it would use something similar?
[17:18] <vkareh> not really, it's just the panel layout. If you choose Redmond, your panel layout resembles that of Windows. If you choose Cupertino, your panel layout looks like a Mac
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !info cairo-dock
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> One of my favorite menu bar panel whatever
[17:52] <Eightynine> How can I open Firefox with recently opened tabs if Firefox opened without them?
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> You were already told.. In Mint... now stop spying on family and spouse
[17:55] <Eightynine> Why do you think I'm spying?