[09:21] <Asad2005> I want to upgrade my ubuntu17.04 to 17.10 alpha, are there any tutorials and is it stable to an extent that is usable? one crash or abnormality evrey now and then is not a problem as long as the desktop environemt is working, also am i right to expect the upgrade to swith me to gnome or not yet
[10:45] <gixxer1k> @asad - i've been using it since it was out, no real issues apart from running on an old laptop, wayland was giving me grief, something to do with the graphics card i think (it's a 'legacy' nvidia)
[10:45] <gixxer1k> so i had to fall back to an xorg session
[10:45] <gixxer1k> nothing big apart from that
[10:46] <gixxer1k> old graphics card = quadro m220 or something like that
[10:49] <gixxer1k> although i'm a statistical sample of 1, so.. :P
[11:01] <Asad2005> gixxer1k: How did you upgrade ? is it through update-manager -d ?
[11:01] <Asad2005> gixxer1k: Or was it a fresh install
[11:09] <gixxer1k> do_release_upgrade -d
[11:09] <gixxer1k> sec
[11:10] <gixxer1k> https://askubuntu.com/questions/909323/ubuntu-gnome-17-04-ubuntu-17-10-upgrade
[11:57] <Asad2005> gixxer1k: thanks
[13:19] <inerkick> Hi Team. I got Ubuntu 17.10 on my machine . And I'm unable to create wifi hotspot to use it for my smartphone. Kindly help
[13:19] <inerkick> this is the details about my wifi http://paste.ubuntu.com/25396803/
[13:20] <inerkick> anyone here?
[13:21] <ducasse> inerkick: you need to be patient, it's the weekend and this channel isn't very busy.
[13:21] <inerkick> oh ok. 
[13:22] <ducasse> i'm not sure your wifi driver supports hotspots, though, iirc that is problematic with broadcom.
[13:22] <inerkick> I have been going through this issue since month or so . I have used wifi earlier before to connect from smartphone to laptop and vice versa. But since the update, this isn't working.. And all the support online/docs are so not updated, so it's kind of freaking out
[13:24] <ducasse> post your details about exactly how it fails, error messages etc, and maybe someone can help.
[13:25] <inerkick> I mean, ducasse , Internet is hard core requirement for Linux distros, and if that's not working it's like nightmare, I feel so terrible for that, it has been released since long time.. I just feel frustrated now updating now :(  There is no error messages as such, In the network manager I can't even see the other wifi anymore. Or even able to create wifihotspot. I can even see my own device mac address in the network manager. There are so much 
[13:25] <inerkick> issues in this version and less proper update being made since previous one I guess
[13:27] <ducasse> inerkick: you shouldn't expect a development release to work perfectly, if you can't handle that maybe you should stick to a released version?
[13:28] <inerkick> Even the stable release wasn't working. So only I updated to development release expecting some upwork
[13:28] <ducasse> that's the completely wrong way to do it
[13:28] <inerkick> agree
[13:29] <ducasse> get it working on a finished release first, don't run a development version unless you can handle breakage
[13:30] <ducasse> there are also a lot more people who can help you then, as you'll get support in #ubuntu
[13:31] <inerkick> I do agree to that, but I just wanted to see some major changes in the basic system to be working. I do agree issues might be related to new versions, but I just feel terrible that even hardware issues weren't checked :( Just frustrated.. Nothing against anyone.. Just feel bad and so less support now
[13:33] <inerkick> What makes me feel so bad is as I said, an LTS version atleast should have a support of network. But they are already working on new with development version without issues being resolved That makes me so sad
[13:35] <ducasse> try the lts version again, report problems in #ubuntu and get help there. of course there are unresolved issues in a development release - that's how it works, it's under development.
[16:35] <Asad2005> Just upgraded to 17.10, how do i install the new ubuntu dock?
[23:23] <tesko> how do i get kernel 4.13.0-999-generic to boot, it wont boot to it even though i have it installed