[05:44] <Guest57435> hello
[07:52] <calcmandan-mobil> running a fresh (2 weeks old) install of smoothwall with 4 interfaces. one zone is my personal with laptop. purple zone is where my servers are. this morning my mail box stopped connecting, then my cloud box stopped too. i left for a dinner party, and as i returned, even my laptop can't connect to the firewall. i'm able to login but i need assistance with the commands to be able to see logs or even restore connectivity from the f
[07:52] <calcmandan-mobil> if i boot the firewall on a live disc, it connects to the internet fine, so i know the nic is working
[07:55] <calcmandan-mobil> The command line is locked down and the admin guide dodsnt describe how to enable then
[07:55] <calcmandan-mobil> Really stuck
[07:56] <ikonia> how is this an ubuntu issue ?
[07:56] <calcmandan-mobil> I know..
[07:56] <ikonia> you know what ?
[07:57] <calcmandan-mobil> I dont know where else to go.
[07:57] <ikonia> not here
[07:57] <ikonia> smoothwall support would be a logical step
[07:58] <calcmandan-mobil> Ive had no luck with that. Yall have been so helpful in the past but ill leave.
[07:58] <ikonia> thanks
[17:26] <docmur> I bought a bunch of additional IP's for one of my servers, I added the IP's in the /etc/network/interface file and then checked the ip addr command https://pastebin.com/4nXyn3Nc, I can see the address on the interface eth0:1, after doing this, shouldn't I be able to use that IP to SSH back to the server?  The original ip is on eth0, with no :0 designation
[19:55] <Gene_home> Green horn to servers, first chance to integrate a server at work, there is existing equipment and is believed to be server 2012 etc etc.  Can you recommend a "good" solution for  FTP server to support a small group, I have access to 1 PowerEdge 2850 currently with 1 cpu single core.... but can be easily expanded to 2 dual cores 16GB.  Business size is 10-50 people.  Also waiting on boss
[19:55] <Gene_home> on expectatations implementing gitlab/github/git_x_enterprise.  Our office will have several hardware and firmware developers.  Many thanks!
[19:55] <ikonia> what ?
[19:55] <ikonia> are you asking "what ftp daemon should I run" ?
[19:57] <Gene_home> I am asking for an ftp server solution that if audited by a tier one company etc will not laugh.  We are in our third year and are still struggling financially so I do not have a big budget for this solution.  thanks.
[19:58] <ikonia> what sort of audit requirements ?
[19:59] <Gene_home> please do not laugh, but is ubuntu server secure enough with an ftp daemon compaired to a windows server?
[19:59] <ikonia> ftp is as secure or as insecure as you configure it
[19:59] <ikonia> no-one is laughing
[20:00] <Gene_home> what would you recommend for a small company?
[20:00] <ikonia> not using FTP would be a good start
[20:00] <ikonia> and it really depends on your requirements
[20:00] <Gene_home> what is an alternative?
[20:00] <dpb1> why are you thinking FTP is a good idea for you?
[20:00] <Gene_home> im am use to ftp
[20:01] <ikonia> what is the goal ?
[20:01] <ikonia> what are the requirements
[20:01] <dpb1> SFTP provides nearly all the familiarity, but uses SSH as the transport.
[20:01] <Gene_home> some of the individuals will not have access to our network
[20:01] <ikonia> what does that have to do with ftp ?
[20:01] <dpb1> and there are a number of really nice clients for sftp, like winscp, etc.
[20:01] <ikonia> Gene_home: what is the requirements ?
[20:04] <Gene_home> we need an SFTP server, our tier one customers require us to use their infrastructure... but ask about our capability to essess how green we are.  Tier 2 customers just want to ensure their data (code we develope) is secure.  right now it is very difficult to share internally with the team.
[20:04] <Gene_home> we have several remote users and contractors
[20:05] <ikonia> if you are using their infrastruture - why are you setting something up ?
[20:05] <ikonia> you need to have a clear set of requirements
[20:05] <maxb> PowerEdge 2850 ... wow, that's some old kit to be deploying new stuff on
[20:06] <Gene_home> we do not use tier 2 customer infrastructure and must use our own from time to time
[20:06] <ikonia> 2008
[20:06] <ikonia> Gene_home: ok - so get together a clear set of requirements
[20:07] <Gene_home> can you outline some of the questions to the requirements?
[20:07] <ikonia> no
[20:07] <ikonia> they are your requirements
[20:08] <Gene_home> thank you for the wisdom
[20:08] <ikonia> welcome
[20:16] <Gene_home> Can you provide an SFTP daemon solution that supports most of these requirements?  http://www.jscape.com/blog/bid/98893/10-Essential-Attributes-of-a-Secure-File-Transfer
[20:17] <ikonia> are they really your requirements
[20:17] <ikonia> or have you just googled for "common ftp requirements"
[20:18] <Gene_home> I googled because that was more productive than asking for guidance here
[20:18] <ikonia> no it wasn't
[20:18] <ikonia> is this really for a business ?
[20:19] <Gene_home> yes it is for a business, three year old business with limited funds.  Not all business have huge budges when they start
[20:19] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with budget
[20:19] <ikonia> this is to do with you messing around
[20:19] <ikonia> if this is really for a business, then you should have a clear set of requirements that you have to meet and maybe some optional ones
[20:19] <ikonia> not "I'll google for 90 seconds"
[20:19] <Gene_home> big things have small beginnings
[20:20] <ikonia> you're just saying random words now that have nothing to do with the disucssion
[20:20] <ikonia> "kill two birds with one stone"
[20:20] <ikonia> there you go, there is a response to your last statement
[20:20] <Gene_home> and currently we are using email which is painful
[20:20] <ikonia> again, this has nothing to do with it
[20:21] <ikonia> stop being lazy, and actually engage with your users / partners and build requirements
[20:23] <oerheks> drop ftp, owncloud *kuch*
[20:23] <ikonia> there is a prime example of how no requirements will lead to a bad solution
[20:50] <Gene_home> Maxb: can you recommend a newer server/brand for SFTP and/or Git lab?  Thanks!
[20:56] <oerheks> easy to find, Gene_home, https://about.gitlab.com/installation/ and some tips https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-gitlab-on-ubuntu-16-04
[20:59] <Gene_home> Nizumzen:  Thanks for the second link!
[21:18] <Gene_home> any other good server refurb sites other than dell outlet and servermonekey?