[00:07] <arooni> how come i cant seem to hook up my laptop to my lg tv?
[00:07] <antonm> I'm having problems with "people.ubuntu.com", is this the right place?
[00:07] <arooni> i can see 'detected display' in display settings but its listed as a 72" display and not a 39" display as it really is
[00:11] <antonm> When I try to connect via SSH, it shows "Permission denied (publickey)."
[00:14] <antonm> Does anyone know what I should do about it?
[00:14] <arooni> can anyone help me getting video output working over hdmi
[00:15] <arooni> here is my xrandr output
[00:15] <arooni> https://gist.github.com/5ec976ed861ea77f474254c1c8db514c
[00:25] <antonm> I need to get ssh working
[00:29] <illuminated> I understand that 18.04 is going to move from unity to something gnome3 related.   I just now started using linux as a desktop with 17.04 rls.  I don't want to get used to unity and then have to learn something else.  so my question is, should i install ubuntu-gnome-desktop or gnome-shell?
[00:30] <antonm> It's really up to you, but it sounds like a good idea
[00:33] <Bashing-om> illuminated: If you like and prefer unity - it will still be around - will be community maintained :)
[00:33] <illuminated> well, I don't particularly have an opinion.  I've only been using ubuntu desktop for about 4 days
[00:34] <illuminated> but I did re-enable the workspaces and I like the workspace switcher as opposed to the way I've seen things switch on youtube videos of gnome-shell
[00:35] <illuminated> also, I like the lenses of unity
[00:37] <Bashing-om> illuminated: linux is all about choice . And for a (D)estop (E)nvironment there are many choices . Use what you have and discover what truely fits for your taste in a DE . Plenty of time to learn :)
[00:37] <illuminated> yeah
[00:38] <antonm> When trying to connect to "people.ubuntu.com" via SSH, it shows the error "Permission denied (publickey)."
[00:38] <antonm> What should I do to fix this
[00:40] <antonm> Does anyone know how to fix it?
[00:42] <Bashing-om> antonm: There are those here that do ( but not me ) . Patience .
[00:51] <antonm> When trying to connect to "people.ubuntu.com" via SSH, it shows the error "Permission denied (publickey)". What should I do to fix this?
[00:51] <antonm> (wrong irc)
[00:52] <kk4ewt> how are you trying to connect
[00:52] <antonm> ssh
[00:52] <Bashing-om> illuminated: Want something to learn on ? down load as many .iso's of interest that you desire and see what they are direct : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive. You will learn a lot about grub ( GRand Unified Bootloader ) .
[00:52] <kk4ewt> what is the exact command
[00:53] <antonm> ssh antonm@people.ubuntu.com
[00:53] <antonm> Is that correct?
[00:53] <kk4ewt> antonm,  so do you have a ssh key registered with that site
[00:54] <antonm> kk4ewt, how can I check
[00:54] <kk4ewt> antonm,  so if you dont know then you do not
[00:55] <antonm> kk4ewt, would they be the same as the ones on launchpad?
[00:55] <antonm> if so, yes
[00:56] <kk4ewt> ssh -1 (point to your key)
[00:59] <antonm> kk4ewt, which key
[01:01] <kk4ewt> try them and see
[01:02] <kk4ewt> they are in your .ssh folder in /home/$youruser/
[01:11] <TheVillainVivi> anyone get 17.04 working on an hp microserver n40l?
[01:33] <redzombie> hey so i have a dell vostro 270 and i put a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB in it. Running two monitors off of the gpu. I got the drivers installed and working but i'm guessing they don't load until after the OS selection screen.. is there a way to have BIOS load the drivers? so that I can see the OS selections without having to use the main board's monitor c
[01:33] <redzombie> onnection
[01:33] <redzombie> also posted here https://askubuntu.com/questions/950180/installed-nvidia-drivers-everything-works-but-monitors-are-blank-until-after-gr
[01:34] <redzombie> let me know if you need more info, sorry pretty new to this
[01:35] <redzombie> or even if you have a link that could be helpful, my google fu is failing me :\
[01:37] <Bashing-om> redzombie: Bios has a set of drivers, grub has a set of drivers, and the kernel has a set of drivers, and one may install proprietary drivers, None of them interact .
[01:37] <wims> ubuntu for windows .... is it usable?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> !ubiwin | wims
[01:38] <wims> i just want to be able to run weechat in windows lol
[01:38] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | wims
[01:39] <redzombie> Bashing-om are you saying that there are two more sets of nvidia drivers i need to install, one for bios and one for grub?
[01:40] <SubCool> if anyone is around. Q. I am trying to setup a static IP NIC for my kubuntu 16.04. But every time i enter the IP, Mask and Gateway, i click add, close the box, Open it to check, and my Gateway is chaged to 0,0,0,0.
[01:41] <Bashing-om> redzombie: Nope, they are what is . When you boot up . disable the splash screen and watch as the different drivers take effect .
[01:43] <redzombie> k i'll do that and look around in my bios settings while i'm there, thanks
[01:44] <Bashing-om> redzombie: The only drivers you have control over is what modules you load into the kernel . - However, you may also control grub's resolution .
[01:57] <TheVillainVivi> full support for linux subsytem is supposed to be coming with the Fall Creators Update, due in October
[01:57] <TheVillainVivi> by the way, am I still being blocked, even though I have registered and authenticated?
[01:58] <krytarik> TheVillainVivi: No, we can read you.
[01:59] <TheVillainVivi> it keeps showing grey when I type, so wasn't sure
[02:00] <krytarik> Ah yes, HexChat's default coloring for your own messages.
[02:01] <tblake3> Does anyone know of a good inventory management software?
[02:18] <demophobia> this Dell D620 has a locked BIOS so i must unlock setup before i can make USB #1 in boot options. is there a website listing the password for a given system number?
[02:18] <demophobia> i've tried password, admin, dell, DELL, Dell -- all incorrect
[02:18] <demophobia> i've searched online and suggestions include removing the CMOS battery and running software flagged as trojan virus -- i don't want to do either ...
[02:20] <demophobia> there is a webpage suggesting that if i know the system number, there is software from a russian hacker that if run from ubuntu terminal will give the password
[02:20] <demophobia> but i don't have ubuntu on any other computer
[02:33] <demophobia> USB Emulation is on and USB is set to #1 on boot menu but the option is not appearing in the boot menu for this Dell D620. How do I boot from USB?
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> wudo_honour: dont join irc as root for security issues
[04:15] <joegiampaoli> If I have both physical ethernet connected and wifi enabled does ethernet have a higher priority over the wifi connection?
[04:16] <joegiampaoli> I ask so I don't have to enable and disable the wifi everytime I hardwire the connection...
[05:36] <penguinfire> Hello, I have 1G RAM and Intel celeron processor. I'm thinking about to install ubuntu minimal and xfce DE. which one I should go for, 32bit or 64bit?
[05:42] <penguinfire> Hello, anyone?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> penguinfire, 1 gb ram?  xubuntu or lubuntu would give better performance
[05:59] <xz> hi there, I have Dell U3011 display that shows only 1600x1200 resolution. Native for the display is 2560x1600. I see no option in 'displays' menu to change that. Any suggestions?
[06:02] <payonel> i want to create an ad hoc network, without any intent to share internet. i have a wireless device and wire port on this laptop. but i have no ethernet cable let alone a wall jack to plug into
[06:03] <payonel> i'm only trying to create a local wireless network for a couple machines with me. but in ubuntu -- when i create the new ad hoc network, i get disconnected from my wifi connection (expected), but then this system automatically re-enabled normal wifi behavior and reconnects to my locally available AP
[06:04] <xz> I have nvidia graphics card and lshw -c video shows nvidia driver loaded
[06:05] <xz> so seems to be ok, yet display shows only 1600x1200 max instead of native 2560x1600
[06:14] <slyrobot> I want to import keyboard shortcut scheme. But I see that I am unable to use it.
[06:14] <slyrobot> Also I am a little confused with standard scheme section.
[06:24] <penguinfire> cfhowlett, 32bit or 64bit?
[06:24] <penguinfire> hi
[06:25] <penguinfire> cfhowlett, 32bit or 64bit?
[06:25] <penguinfire> cfhowlett, 32bit or 64bit?
[06:25] <ducasse> !patience | penguinfire
[06:25] <cfhowlett> try 64
[06:25] <ducasse> penguinfire: the difference will be so small you're not going to notice
[06:27] <k_sze_> Erm, my zesty desktop is stuck at the 5 red dots when it boots, since I just updated the nvidia_384 drivers to the latest revision.
[06:27] <k_sze_> I can SSH into it, but I don't get a desktop environment.
[06:28] <penguinfire> cfhowlett: thanks
[06:30] <k_sze_> The kernel modules are built by dkms and I have ensured to sign them with my MOK.
[06:30] <k_sze_> My MOK is also enrolled (`mokutil --import` tells me it's already enrolled).
[06:31] <ducasse> k_sze_: have you checked the logs?
[06:33] <k_sze_> ducasse: I see this in my kern.log: API mismatch: the client has the version 384.69, but this kernel module has the version 384.59.  Please make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[06:33] <k_sze_> I don't even know how that's possible.
[06:34] <ducasse> a bug, or maybe some component failed to build. i don't know the nvidia drivers well.
[06:38] <ducasse> k_sze_: you should probably talk to the ppa maintainers, as 384 is not officially supported by zesty. 375 won't work?
[06:41] <k_sze_> I always prefer to use cutting edge if it works. :P
[06:42] <k_sze_> So apparently 384 is still experimental: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[06:42] <k_sze_> 381 is considered stable.
[06:46] <k_sze_> And how do I know 384 is not officially supported by zesty?
[06:47] <k_sze_> hmm: Error! Module version 0B3F53EFFE091B38635C344 for nvidia_384_uvm.ko is not newer than what is already found in kernel 4.10.0-32-generic (384.69).
[06:53] <ducasse> k_sze_: you know it's not supported because it's not in the repos
[06:55] <k_sze_> It is in the repo
[06:56] <ducasse> !info nvidia-384 zesty
[06:56] <k_sze_> Oh, you mean it only exists in the ppa.
[06:56] <ducasse> yes.
[06:58] <ducasse> i'd try purging that ppa and see if 375 works.
[07:07] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[07:09] <bad5ect0r> Hi! Just a quick question, does Ubuntu come installed with the killall program?
[07:10] <ducasse> bad5ect0r: yes
[07:17] <bad5ect0r> Thank you ducasse
[07:39] <arahael> bad5ect0r: It's part of the psmisc package.
[08:12] <mr_lou> Hello. Can someone help me with a sed command? It's a simple search'n'replace in a text file....  sed -i -e 's/search/replace/g' filename.txt    Except the search and replace string are variables, so    sed -i -e 's/$search/$replace/g'     and an example of the variables can be $search="hello" and $replace="hel~lo".  (Hyphenation insertion).  I'm guessing my problem is the ~ character?
[08:13] <mr_lou> No errors, but nothing happens to the file either.
[08:15] <ducasse> mr_lou: try using " instead of '
[08:15] <mr_lou> Alright
[08:16] <mr_lou> Progress! Awesome. Thanks ducasse
[08:16] <ducasse> mr_lou: ' prevents expansion of variables
[08:16] <mr_lou> Have some errors though. I'm guess because the variables contains hyphens... like "32-year".
[08:17] <mr_lou> No. it's the / character.
[08:17] <mr_lou> I suppose I should put \ infront of those.
[08:19] <tomreyn> either that or use a different character to seperate needle from haystack. i often use ;
[08:21] <tomreyn> i.e if neither needle or haystack contain ; you could use search;replace;g
[08:22] <hexdec> hello world
[08:23] <tomreyn> hello lifeform
[08:25] <mr_lou> tomreyn, Thanks! Good to know. Didn't know that.
[08:25] <tomreyn> welcome
[08:31] <tomreyn> mr_lou: also (you may already be aware of this) if you have alphanumeric characters right behind the variables (e.g. s/$search123/$replaceFoo/g) then variables won't be expanded properly (so use s/${search}123/${replace}Foo/g instead)
[08:38] <mr_lou> tomreyn, Thanks, didn't know that either, but never ran into it either. I'm a simple guy using simple variablenames. ;-)
[09:04] <jonah> hi can anyone help with this error please: libdbus-1-dev : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (= 1.10.10-1ubuntu1.1) but 1.10.10-1ubuntu1.2 is to be installed
[09:04] <jonah> I'm trying to install a packabe but always get that error...
[09:08] <tomreyn> jonah: did you run apt-get update prior to trying to install libdbus-1-dev?
[09:10] <jonah> tomreyn: hi yes
[09:10] <tomreyn> jonah: which ubuntu release is this?
[09:11] <jonah> tomreyn: i ran that first... then apt-get install libdbus-1-3 and same error. I'm running Yakkety
[09:11] <tomreyn> jonah: that's end of life
[09:12] <tomreyn> !eol | jonah
[09:12] <jonah> tomreyn: yaketty is end of life? What is the current stable??
[09:13] <tomreyn> jonah: 17.04 AKA zesty
[09:13] <jonah> tomreyn: holy *** haha sorry I'll get upgraded then!!
[09:13] <jonah> tomreyn: thank you!
[09:14] <jonah> tomreyn: must of missed a version there haha
[09:15] <mrec> does ubuntu still support connecting to NFS Servers?
[09:16] <mrec> I'm getting a broken pipe when mounting an NFS share...
[09:20] <mrec> ... millions of users out there are unable to mount NFS shares... those nfs mount command line options are idiotic
[09:21] <mrec> adding username and password gives an incorrect mount option was specified
[09:21] <tomreyn> mrec: where did you read that "millions of users out there are unable to mount NFS shares"?
[09:21] <tomreyn> nfs is still supported and works fine, of course.
[09:21] <mrec> just need to search the error message
[09:22] <mrec> or various nfs mount error messages
[09:22] <mrec> mount -t nfs -o username=foo,password=bar ip:/path /dstpath
[09:22] <mrec> an incorrect mount option was specified
[09:23] <mrec> this is horribly broken by design if it's documented everywhere like that and spits out such an error message
[09:23] <ikonia> or you could just accept you made a mistake and move on
[09:23] <ikonia> rather than try to justify your mistake with some odd logic that everyone else is suffering
[09:24] <mrec> well dinosaurs are dying out either the documented way works or it should give a meaningful error message
[09:24] <ikonia> it's ok to get a command argument wrong, or badly formatted
[09:24] <mrec> everything else is idiotic.
[09:24] <ikonia> tone it down
[09:24] <ikonia> you're looking silly now
[09:24] <mrec> ikonia: what would be the mistake in my command that justifies such an error message?
[09:25] <ikonia> mrec: I don't know the full history of your command,
[09:25] <mrec> I didn't use NFS for 10 years... I don't remember that it was that bad before
[09:25] <ikonia> it could be as simple as a white space screwing up the formatting
[09:25] <mrec> mount -t nfs -o username=foo,password=bar ip:/path /dstpath
[09:25] <mrec> no spacing issue, this HAS to work or give a meaningful error
[09:25] <mrec> but it gives " an incorrect mount option was specified"
[09:25] <ikonia> ok - so there is an invalid option somehwere in there
[09:25] <mrec> if you check with google it's documented like that everywhere
[09:25] <ikonia> just work it through
[09:26] <ikonia> at a glance the syntax looks sane
[09:26] <EriC^^> mrec: maybe the password has some bad char?
[09:26] <ikonia> EriC^^: great spot
[09:26] <mrec> then it has to print incorrect password provided instead of an incorrect mount option was specified
[09:26] <EriC^^> mrec: bash could expand it first
[09:27] <mrec> mount returns with an error 32 ... after this error message
[09:27] <mrec> which in case they would accept the posix standard would be  broken pipe
[09:27] <mrec> the guy who wrote this mount tool must have been totally stoned to disregard the standards
[09:28] <ikonia> mrec: what help do you want from this channel
[09:28] <ikonia> this is getting silly now
[09:28] <mrec> maybe someone knows about that silly mount command
[09:28] <ikonia> mrec: you've just been given a good suggestion from EriC^^
[09:28] <ikonia> I suggest you try it and work it through with people willing to help, but please stop ranting
[09:29] <mrec> well I have no idea how to use this and what the real error is
[09:29] <ikonia> mrec: ok, so try following the suggestion EriC^^ has made for a starter
[09:30] <mrec> according to the error message username or password might be an invalid option but who knows since it doesn't tell what the error is
[09:30] <ikonia> mrec: I won't tell you again - stop
[09:30] <ikonia> work the problem through with people
[09:30] <ikonia> or be quiet
[09:31] <mrec> well i posted everything I did.
[09:32] <mrec> god...it should be -O instead of -o ...
[09:33] <mrec> -o options, -O optlist ...
[09:34] <ikonia> excellent, well done
[09:34] <mrec> no .. I can just strip the -O
[09:37] <ducasse> mrec: where did you get the info that username and password are valid options for nfs? they're not in the man page and i've never seen them before.
[09:37] <ducasse> ah, quit...
[09:37] <ikonia> it looks like a samba mount line
[09:39] <ducasse> yes, nfs you just mount as root afaik
[09:39] <ikonia> there are auth options for the share
[09:55] <akik> the error message mrec pasted actually said the error message "an incorrect mount option was specified"
[09:56] <akik> you don't use those mount options for nfs as you said
[09:59] <untoreh> how do I reset to default apt systemd files? i assume I should dpkg-reconf some package, which one ?
[10:01] <akik> untoreh: not sure what you mean but you can reinstall packages "sudo apt-get install --reinstall package"
[10:03] <fedorafan> is there a file browser with treeview?
[10:04] <ducasse> fedorafan: gui or terminal?
[10:04] <fedorafan> gui
[10:04] <ducasse> spacefm, at least
[10:04] <fedorafan> thanks I try
[10:06] <fedorafan> yeah that is nice
[10:15] <penguinfire> how to install ubuntu minimal using PPPoE?
[10:17] <tomreyn> penguinfire: by minimal, do you mean mini.iso? or a very small installed size, just basic features?
[10:18] <penguinfire> mini.iso
[10:18] <penguinfire> :tomreyn: mini.iso
[10:20] <ducasse> penguinfire: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apds06.html
[10:20] <penguinfire> :tomreyn I have tried modules=ppp-udeb kernel parameters.
[10:21] <tomreyn> penguinfire: the mini.iso is called that sfor a reason. maybe you need to use the server installation iso
[10:23] <penguinfire> :ducasse It clearly mentioned that it is not supported for netboot installs.
[10:25] <ducasse> penguinfire: you never said that's what you wanted. if that's what you want you now know it's not supported.
[10:27] <dreinull> I'm trying to compile the icu extension for sqlite. I installed icu-devtools, switched into the dir of the extension and ran gcc. However, it fails because icu is missing a file. Maybe someone can help. Log: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/~usahC8eokdYQV7M6AS17Q
[10:29] <penguinfire> :ducasse That's what I have tried first.
[10:30] <penguinfire> :ducasse Is there any way to add that module manually?
[10:31] <ducasse> penguinfire: then try something that is supported?
[10:32] <penguinfire> :ducasse something?
[10:40] <mikubuntu> having trouble installing brave browser on lubuntu (16.04 i think)
[10:41] <tomreyn> dreinull: the icu-config warning suggests you should install libicu-dev
[10:43] <dreinull> tomreyn, oh, yes, that does away with this error message, but I get another on :(
[10:43] <dreinull> but thats probably an error for the sqlite channel or are you well versed in that too? :)
[10:45] <tomreyn> dreinull: depends on the message you got there. generally, the sqlite channel would be the right place to ask for help building their software.
[10:45] <tomreyn> (after reading any documentation available and searching the web)
[10:45] <ducasse> penguinfire: what are you actually trying to do? what are you doing that fails?
[10:46] <dreinull> tomreyn: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/VHShdxsFwdeRvpdqGt~BIg
[10:46] <tomreyn> dreinull: right, talk to them (after reading any documentation available and searching the web)
[10:47] <dreinull> ok, thank you though!!
[10:47] <tomreyn> welcome
[10:49] <penguinfire> :ducasse I want to install Ubuntu using mini.iso CD and PPPoE connection.
[10:51] <tomreyn> penguinfire: why dont you use the server ISO?
[10:51] <ducasse> penguinfire: then why does it matter that netboot is not supported?
[10:54] <penguinfire> :tomreyn I want to make the installation as minimum as possible because it's USB I'm using. Thanks for not asking why.
[10:54] <ikonia> the server install is very light
[10:54] <ikonia> use that and remove what you don't need
[10:55] <ikonia> it's probably easier than not understanding what you're missing because you don't know/realise why you need it
[10:56] <ducasse> penguinfire: +1 on using the server image, it would save you time and hassle.
[10:58] <penguinfire> :ikonia what would be the installed size of server CD method?
[11:00] <ikonia> penguinfire: couple of hundred meg
[11:01] <ikonia> by default
[11:02] <penguinfire> :ikonia No, post installation size of Ubuntu server 16.04 LTS?
[11:02] <ikonia> yeah, couple of hundred meg by default
[11:05] <ducasse> is it really that small? iirc when i installed this laptop i only selected basic tools and it came in around 1gb
[11:06] <penguinfire> :ikonia But the iso image shows 825M.
[11:06] <ikonia> on server ?
[11:06] <ikonia> penguinfire: thats the iso size
[11:06] <ducasse> server, yes
[11:06] <ikonia> ducasse: I've got a 14.04 install that was 430mb, not sure if 16.04 made a big jump
[11:06] <ikonia> but again - just remove what you don't want
[11:06] <ikonia> quicker and easier
[11:07] <penguinfire> :ikonia after the installation?
[11:07] <ikonia> yes
[11:07] <ikonia> keep in mind what ducasse said
[11:07] <ikonia> either way, just remove what you don't want
[11:09] <ducasse> penguinfire: you can remove a lot of the server stuff, but none of that takes a lot of space. the difference between ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-server is small, irt size.
[11:11] <penguinfire> :ikonia thank you
[11:11] <ikonia> ducasse is your man here
[11:12] <penguinfire> okay, thank you ducasse:
[11:12] <ducasse> penguinfire: yw
[11:15] <ducasse> penguinfire: after the install, do 'apt show ubuntu-server' and look at the 'depends' line for a nice list of the server stuff. things like the iscsi tools you're probably not going to need.
[11:19] <preview> hi all, could anyone help me out getting an rtl8192cu chipset wireless usb stick to work?
[11:20] <preview> I've tried several different drivers, including ones from git and a separate ppa
[11:20] <preview> https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
[11:20] <preview> as well as  ppa:hanipouspilot/rtlwifi
[11:21] <preview> the dongle detects, and connects to the router but won't access the web
[11:21] <littlekitty> hi, my computer got hacked a few days ago and so I wiped the ssd and made a fresh installation
[11:22] <littlekitty> now do you guys have any tips for me to check how save my system is now?
[11:22] <ducasse> preview: the short answer for that is "if it doesn't work for you, tough luck", ttbomk. realtek is a pain, that specific chipset more so.
[11:22] <preview> ducasse: yeah that's what I was afraid of
[11:25] <ducasse> preview: sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but almost everyone has problems with that chipset - connections dropping etc.
[11:27] <StrangeNoises> hm. some update in 17.10 today has partially broken hidpi support that was working yesterday. god knows which package...
[11:28] <ducasse> StrangeNoises: you need to take that to #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <ioria> preview, can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[11:29] <StrangeNoises> ducasse, thank you for telling me it exists :-)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <littlekitty> can anyone help me out with configuring xrdp please?
[12:13] <littlekitty> i set the port and forwarded it but my vnc client tells me the computer is not listening to the given port
[12:14] <kk4ewt> firewalls
[12:14] <littlekitty> should I rather change the port setting to -1 ?
[12:16] <littlekitty> there is also a port variable in /etc/xrdp/sesman.ini
[12:17] <littlekitty> does it have to match the xrdp.ini port ?
[12:21] <empfire> who here has a couple of minutes and likes to solve enigmas
[12:24] <pabed> hi guys,  what do you offer me a software like visio?
[12:26] <marlinc> I'm not sure what happened but all of the sudden I'm constantly being logged out of Unity (probably because of Unity crashes)
[12:26] <empfire> yo shmow
[12:26] <empfire> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2369778&p=13680069#post13680069
[12:26] <marlinc> kernel: [  433.715567] traps: compiz[9067] general protection ip:7ff9974ae87e sp:7fff51505d60 error:0 in libunity-core-6.0.so.9.0.0[7ff99741a000+133000
[12:26] <empfire> GET ME THE SOLUTION
[12:29] <BluesKaj> empfire, good luck with that attiude
[12:29] <ducasse> empfire: no caps, please, and no demands either
[12:31] <marlinc> This appears the relevant stuff in syslog, I also looked at the Xorg logs but they don't contain much https://gist.github.com/Marlinc/eedd78edde6d95b4406af32e24f69981
[12:38] <preview> ioria: I can ping the router, yes, but no access to the wider web
[12:39] <ikonia> ping is not a valid test
[12:41] <ioria> preview, ok about the router ... but 8.8.8.8 what says ? and how did you install  the module ?
[12:41] <preview> uh I installed one from a repo, then another from git using dkms
[12:43] <ioria> preview, indulge me ....   ping 8.8.8.8
[12:43] <preview> hang on, rebooting
[12:44] <ioria> preview, are you on windows ?
[12:44] <preview> not me, a friend is diong this
[12:44] <preview> I'm trying to help them
[12:45] <ioria> preview, so , first try this: check every steps please: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[12:50] <antonm> I'm still getting "debug1: No more authentication methods to try. Permission denied (publickey)." when trying to connect to people.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <preview> ioria: yes, that was the module we installed
[12:52] <ioria> preview, and have you blacklisted the old driver ?
[12:53] <preview> yes
[12:53] <preview> and that ping command returns results
[12:54] <ioria> preview, paste one line here
[12:55] <preview> ioria:  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/343921335749050369/351348643564879872/image.jpg
[12:55] <ioria> preview, ok.... are you using static or dhcp ?
[12:55] <preview> dhcp
[12:58] <ioria> preview,  grep -i nameserver /var/log/syslog     returns something ?
[12:59] <ioria> preview,  and what dns are you using ?
[12:59] <preview> auto dns
[13:00] <preview> so, router I imagine
[13:00] <ioria> preview,  grep -i nameserver /var/log/syslog
[13:02] <Pettis> I'm on Trusty running Unity and my cursor just turned into a crosshair; it will move but can't jump between monitors, click or scroll with the wheel.  Any ideas please?  I have tried unplugging/replugging the mouse.
[13:03] <preview> ioria: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/343921335749050369/351350633531703317/image.jpg
[13:05] <ioria> preview,  i suppose ping www.google.com   it's not working ? yes ?
[13:09] <preview> it works now, after switching from usb 3 to 2
[13:11] <ioria> preview, oh, good thinking
[13:20] <antonm> I'm still getting "debug1: No more authentication methods to try. Permission denied (publickey)." when trying to connect to people.ubuntu.com.
[13:36] <antonm> Anyone?
[13:44] <antonm> Does anyone know how to fix "Permission denied (publickey)"
[13:47] <kk4ewt> use the correct key?
[13:48] <linuxlove> hi
[13:48] <linuxlove> i see all connections in my terminal refer to Connecting to 127.0.0.1:42643... failed: Connection refused.
[13:49] <linuxlove> when i use wget and other commands
[13:49] <linuxlove> how can i fix that
[13:50] <Xard> seems like with 4.10 kernel on 16.04 lts I have weird issues with usb keyboard randomly disconnecting itself
[13:50] <Xard> dmesg just shows
[13:50] <Xard> "[100791.683288] usb 2-1.7: USB disconnect, device number 3"
[13:51] <kk4ewt> linuxlove,  why are you connecting back to yourself
[13:51] <Xard> and I have to replug the keyboard in order to get it back
[13:51] <linuxlove> i dont know
[13:51] <kk4ewt> 127.0.0.1 is your localhost
[13:52] <linuxlove> yes i know
[13:52] <kk4ewt> so what exactly where you trying to do
[13:52] <linuxlove> but how can i fix that
[13:53] <kk4ewt> so what exactly where you trying to do
[13:53] <linuxlove> i want to use wget
[13:53] <linuxlove> and i connect to myself
[13:53] <kk4ewt> so do you have a http session setup
[13:54] <linuxlove> i remember long time ago i created a proxy for my shell
[13:54] <linuxlove> but my terminal was okay
[13:54] <linuxlove> till yesterday
[13:54] <ducasse> linuxlove: unset http_proxy
[13:55] <tom_lener> linuxlove pls pastebin your /etc/nsswitch.conf
[13:56] <linuxlove> how can i know http_proxy is set or no ?
[13:56] <ducasse> linuxlove: 'echo $http_proxy'
[13:57] <linuxlove> https://pastebin.com/WzZ058nT
[13:57] <linuxlove> echo $http_proxy
[13:57] <linuxlove> http://127.0.0.1:42643/
[13:57] <linuxlove> how can i unset?
[13:58] <ducasse> linuxlove: 'unset http_proxy' to test, and remove it from your shell config
[13:59] <linuxlove> i dont know where i did config
[13:59] <linuxlove> where is right way of config file?
[14:00] <ducasse> linuxlove: you should. try ~/.bashrc
[14:05] <clarity510> what partition type do you use for ssd?
[14:06] <ducasse> clarity510: doesn't matter
[14:07] <ducasse> clarity510: you generally use gpt for uefi and disks over 2tb, and mbr for legacy or smaller disks
[14:14] <thebigj> While in GParted, I have mistakenly formatted /dev/sda1
[14:14] <thebigj> to Fat32
[14:14] <thebigj> I have not restarted my machine. but I think this is EFI.
[14:15] <thebigj> I am using http://www.sony-asia.com/support/product/sve15126cv
[14:15] <thebigj> I have Ubuntu 16.04 installed.
[14:15] <thebigj> From Ubuntu forum, I found Boot-repair might help.
[14:29] <ducasse> thebigj: you should be able to recreate it with grub-install and fixing the uuid in fstab
[14:30] <ducasse> plus efibootmgr to fix the efi variable
[14:31] <thebigj> ducasse: Is grub-install a package?
[14:31] <thebigj> ducasse: I am total novice user.
[14:31] <thebigj> ducasse: Please guide.
[14:31] <ducasse> no, it's part of grub
[14:31] <thebigj> ducasse: Any more guidlines you can provide
[14:31] <thebigj> ?
[14:32] <thebigj> I am unclear how can I use 'grub' for this.
[14:32] <linuxlove> ducasse, i didnt find in direction that you said
[14:34] <VLanX> Hello, not sure if it is ok to ask here. I've setup http auth in Ubuntu 17.04 server, with "auth_basic_user_file /etc/nginx/.htpasswd;" on Nginx. Is it possible for me to view the logs of the remote IP Addresses authenticating?
[14:36] <ducasse> thebigj: you can try either reinstalling grub itself (the package) or try boot-repair for an easier way. i'm quite busy and can't guide you right now, sorry.
[14:37] <ducasse> linuxlove: if it's not in your user's bash config it is probably set systemwide
[14:37] <linuxlove> where is wide configuration for bash
[14:38] <thebigj> ducasse: I am thanks for your help. I tried the boot-rapair option. Though I chosed the option to deploy the log to pastebin it didn't and showed this option at the end https://dpaste.de/dc87/raw
[14:39] <thebigj> ducasse: I want to assure that EFI is restored and I will be able to boot like I was before.
[14:39] <thebigj> ducasse: Sorry to annoy you when you are busy.
[14:40] <ducasse> linuxlove: try 'sudo rgrep http_proxy /etc' to see which files refer to it
[14:41] <ducasse> thebigj: that's ok. can you look and see if there are any files under /boot/efi?
[14:41] <linuxlove>   /etc/cron.daily/popularity-contest:  export http_proxy="$HTTP_PROXY";
[14:42] <thebigj> ducasse: Output of 'ls -l /boot/efi/' is 'total 0'
[14:42] <thebigj> ducasse: I think there are no files in this folder.
[14:45] <ducasse> thebigj: is it currently mounted? what does 'sudo mount /boot/efi' say?
[14:45] <thebigj> ducasse: mount: can't find /boot/efi/ in /etc/fstab
[14:46] <wudo_honour> These files may contain juicy information such as
[14:46] <wudo_honour> enforced local administrative passwords set by Group Policy
[14:47] <wudo_honour> what does mean "juicy information" ?
[14:47] <ducasse> thebigj: 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' - are there any files there?
[14:48] <thebigj> ducasse: yes.
[14:48] <ducasse> thebigj: please pastebin your /etc/fstab
[14:48] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/07ru/raw
[14:48] <thebigj> ducasse: This is not output of /sys/firmware/efi/
[14:49] <thebigj> ducasse: Doing for /etc/fstab
[14:49] <thebigj> ducasse: This is of /etc/fstab https://dpaste.de/RWyT/raw
[14:50] <ducasse> thebigj: no, the actual contents of the file :)
[14:50] <thebigj> ducasse: Wait.
[14:50] <ducasse> wudo_honour: it probably means 'attractive to hackers etc'
[14:50] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/2XBm/raw
[14:52] <ioria> thebigj, why it's commented ?
[14:52] <ducasse> thebigj: ok, something has uncommented it - probably bootrepair. what does 'blkid' say?
[14:52] <thebigj> ioria: Not sure. Just ran 'cat /etc/fstab'
[14:53] <thebigj> ducasse: '/dev/sdb1: UUID="A289-CE7B" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="dd25b6a7-01"
[14:53] <ioria> thebigj,  you need to remove that hash from that line
[14:53] <thebigj> ioria: Okay.
[14:53] <ioria> thebigj,  and mount -a
[14:53] <ducasse> ioria: he's run bootrepair etc, i'm guessing that has done something. also i suspect he needs to fix the uuid.
[14:53] <ioria> ducasse, sure
[14:54] <thebigj> ducasse: okay.
[14:54] <ducasse> thebigj: is that the full output of blkid?
[14:54] <ioria> ducasse, check lsblkid
[14:54] <thebigj> ducasse: Sorry, my mistake.
[14:55] <ioria> ducasse, sy, sudo blkid
[14:55] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/AmmO/raw
[14:55] <thebigj> ducasse: This is updated output
[14:55] <ioria> thebigj,  yes, is wrong
[14:56] <ioria> thebigj,  replace  AA63-0A8C   with   A289-CE7B
[14:56] <ducasse> thebigj: pastebin 'lsblk' also
[14:57] <ducasse> why is that sdb?
[14:57] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/n6jZ/raw
[14:57] <thebigj> ducasse: The USB was plugged in.
[14:58] <thebigj> ducasse: Removed it and then fired lsblk
[14:58] <thebigj> ducasse: So don't confuse yourself.
[14:58] <thebigj> ducasse: One more thing I would like to share. This is Sony Vaio workstation.
[14:58] <ioria> thebigj,  paste again sudo blkid, please
[14:59] <ducasse> so why isn't blkid listing sda1?
[14:59] <thebigj> ducasse: It has some Assist utility for doing repair, restore your windows
[14:59] <thebigj> ducasse: By-default the Sony vaio do not support Linux.
[14:59] <thebigj> ducasse: Even if I had formatted my machine to Ubuntu and removed the windows that utility was still there.
[15:00] <thebigj> That utility is stareted from one button on my workstation. Before I boot my computer.
[15:00] <thebigj> IT also has options to run re-covery GUI based program.
[15:01] <thebigj> ioria: https://dpaste.de/CosL/raw
[15:02] <ioria> thebigj,  here we are
[15:02] <ducasse> looks like it has no fs at all
[15:03] <ioria> thebigj,  yep, nuked
[15:03] <thebigj> In gparted it is showing fat partition.
[15:04] <ioria> thebigj,  sudo parted -l
[15:04] <thebigj> Before I excidently formatted it, it was fat only but the tag attached to it was msftdata
[15:05] <thebigj> Before running boot-repair, I deleted this partition, removed it.
[15:05] <thebigj> but when I apply, This automatically coming back to fat
[15:05] <ducasse> format it as vfat
[15:05] <ioria> thebigj,  i think you need to have a fat32 sda1 (format it again) , mount , reinstall grub, and correct fstab
[15:06] <thebigj> https://dpaste.de/eJCC/raw
[15:06] <ioria> thebigj,  no it's set for a msdos boot
[15:07] <thebigj> https://dpaste.de/X7ss/raw
[15:07] <thebigj> I formatted it to fat32
[15:07] <thebigj> Now, should I run boot-repair again?
[15:08] <ducasse> no, please don't
[15:08] <thebigj> ducasse: OKay.
[15:08] <thebigj> Then?
[15:08] <ducasse> thinking
[15:08] <thebigj> ducasse: Okay.
[15:08] <ioria> thebigj,  no expertice with that tool, i'd try to mount on /b/e  and run grub-install
[15:09] <thebigj> ioria: Will you explain what is /b/e?
[15:09] <thebigj> ioria: And how can I run grunb-install ?
[15:09] <ioria> thebigj,  /boot/efi
[15:10] <ioria> thebigj,   grub-install && update-grub   , but wait you need that partition mounted
[15:10] <thebigj> ioria: How can I mount /boot/efi? What args should I pass to mount command?
[15:10] <ducasse> ioria: if you can handle this that'd be good, i need to take care of something.
[15:10] <ioria> ducasse, not sure :)
[15:10] <ioria> thebigj,   mount -a
[15:11] <thebigj> ioria: 'sudo mount -a /boot/efi' ?
[15:11] <ducasse> mount -a won't work until the fstab is fixed
[15:11] <ioria> thebigj,  sorry, not in fstab .... yes    sudo mount
[15:12] <ioria> thebigj,  sudo mount /dev/sda1  /boot/efi
[15:12] <antonm> people.ubuntu.com still doesn't work
[15:12] <thebigj> ioria: Ran 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi'
[15:13] <thebigj> Now 'grub-install && update-grub' ?
[15:13] <ioria> thebigj,  yes
[15:13] <ioria> thebigj,  no, paste  'mount'
[15:13] <thebigj> ioria: I haven't given -a option to mount.
[15:13] <ioria> thebigj,  paste  'mount'
[15:13] <thebigj> ioria: Very long output is there. Pasting
[15:14] <thebigj> ioria: https://dpaste.de/kJ9y/raw
[15:15] <ioria> thebigj,    mmm,   grub-install && update-grub
[15:15] <thebigj> ioria: Installing for i386-pc platform.
[15:15] <thebigj> grub-install: error: install device isn't specified.
[15:16] <ioria> thebigj,   nope
[15:17] <ducasse> grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[15:17] <ducasse> iirc
[15:17] <thebigj> ducasse: grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[15:18] <ducasse> grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=/dev/sda1
[15:18] <ioria> yeah, that
[15:18] <ducasse> no, sorry :)
[15:19] <thebigj> ducasse: Still giving same error.
[15:19] <StrangeNoises> course if you're on efi and the stars are aligned you don't even need grub any more. just boot off the kernel, it may be showing in the bios's boot options 😀
[15:20] <thebigj>  /whois ioria
[15:20] <thebigj> oops
[15:20] <ioria> thebigj,   are you booting in efi mode ?
[15:20] <ducasse> had he been on 17.04 i'd just install refind :)
[15:21] <ducasse> ioria: he is
[15:21] <StrangeNoises> refind? is this a mac?
[15:21]  * StrangeNoises scrolls back
[15:21] <thebigj> ducasse: Yes, I have booted on UEFI
[15:22] <thebigj> ducasse: I am not sure about this
[15:22] <ioria> thebigj,   [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[15:22] <thebigj> ioria: UEFI
[15:22] <ducasse> StrangeNoises: refind works very well on pc as well, y'know...
[15:23] <ioria> thebigj,   grub-efi-amd64  is installed ?
[15:24] <ducasse> thebigj: grub-install /dev/sda
[15:24] <StrangeNoises> ironically my pc running linux is also a hackintosh so it's clover bootloader i'm running there 😀 refind is on the macbook pro, but not enabled right now as since the upgrade to 17.10 (didn't work on 17.04) it's happy booting off the alt-boot menu
[15:24] <thebigj> ioria: Command not found
[15:24] <ioria> thebigj,   dpkg -l grub-efi-amd64
[15:24] <thebigj> ducasse: "grub-install: error: cannot delete `/boot/grub/i386-pc/video.mod': Permission denied.
[15:24] <thebigj> ducasse: Sudo?
[15:24] <ducasse> yes
[15:25] <thebigj> https://dpaste.de/UAM2/raw
[15:25] <thebigj> ducasse: ^^
[15:26] <ioria> thebigj,   are you 32 bit ?
[15:28] <thebigj> ioria: No. 64
[15:29] <thebigj> ioria: Ran boot-repair before our this discussion as I have mentioned.
[15:29] <thebigj> ioria: hope that tool have not did anything which is creating this error.
[15:30] <ioria> thebigj,  idk why it's trying to install for i386 platform
[15:31] <ducasse> thebigj: add '--target=x86_64-efi' to the last command
[15:31] <thebigj> ducasse: grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64_efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[15:32] <ducasse> isn't grub installed properly?
[15:33] <thebigj> How can I check?
[15:33] <ioria> thebigj,  can you paste dpkg -l | grep grub
[15:35] <thebigj> ioria: I am not sure but I think the grep command is uncompatible with what output the dpkg is giving.
[15:36] <ioria> thebigj,  i don't think so
[15:36] <ducasse> no output?
[15:36] <thebigj> https://dpaste.de/0YrE/raw
[15:37] <ioria> thebigj,  why quotes ?
[15:37] <ioria> thebigj,  can you paste dpkg -l | grep grub
[15:37] <thebigj> ioria: I thought it should not parse the command grub.
[15:38] <thebigj> ioria: But even after removing the double quotes it is giving the same output what I am sharing with you.
[15:38] <ducasse> thebigj: why are you in busybox?
[15:38] <thebigj> I am in I3
[15:38] <ioria> thebigj,  that's not normal
[15:38] <thebigj> I3WM
[15:38] <ducasse> o_O
[15:38] <ioria> thebigj,  no sudo
[15:38] <thebigj> ioria: Same output
[15:39] <ioria> thebigj,  ok, sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed grub2-common grub-common grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin
[15:40] <thebigj> did
[15:40] <thebigj> ioria: ^
[15:40] <ioria> thebigj,  dpkg -l | grep grub
[15:41] <thebigj> ioria: Nop. It is giving same output.
[15:41] <ducasse> thebigj: if you've reinstalled it before do it again, and pastebin the output
[15:41] <ducasse> something is very odd here...
[15:42] <ioria> thebigj,  are you sure you are in regular session ?
[15:43] <thebigj> ducasse: I haven't re-installed anything but when I run 'dpkg -l' a long list of package is outputed to my console
[15:43] <thebigj> I think grep is broken
[15:44] <ducasse> is 'abc' your normal user-/hostname?
[15:44] <thebigj> ducasse: No. I am obsfucated it.
[15:44] <ioria> brb, sorry
[15:45] <thebigj> ioria: Oh, Thanks for your help.
[15:45] <ducasse> thebigj: do the apt-get line that ioria said and pastebin the output
[15:46] <thebigj> https://dpaste.de/ioSi/raw
[15:47] <ducasse> thebigj: it's all one line
[15:47] <venthe1650> hello. does evolution work on ubuntu 17.04?
[15:47] <ducasse> venthe1650: it should
[15:48] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/mt58/raw
[15:49] <venthe1650> for me it just wont start
[15:50] <ducasse> thebigj: ok, good. look under /boot/efi now.
[15:50] <jamie_1> hey one of my extensions are not work and its saying "error loading extension", is there a log file somewhere that will tell me more other than just "error loading shell extension"?
[15:53] <thebigj> ducasse: Should I run this command "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=/dev/sda1
[15:53] <thebigj> ?
[15:54] <ducasse> thebigj: try 'sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi /dev/sda' first
[15:54] <thebigj> ducasse: Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[15:54] <thebigj> Installation finished. No error reported.
[15:54] <thebigj> ducasse: Seems like litle promissing
[15:55] <ducasse> thebigj: look under /boot/efi
[15:56] <jamie_1>  /join ubuntu-gnome
[15:56] <jamie_1> crap lol
[15:56] <thebigj> ducasse: Using 'ls -l'?
[15:57] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/yD1H/raw
[15:57] <mindofmateo> Hello.  I am trying to share my Wifi Internet connection on my laptop (Ubuntu 14.04) through Ethernet to a desktop (Ubuntu 16.04).  I followed the guide on Ubuntu's website, but browsers say "There is no Internet connection."  How have I improperly configured this connection?
[15:57] <ducasse> thebigj: 'sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu'
[15:58] <thebigj> ducasse: grub.cfg  grubx64.efi
[15:58] <ducasse> thebigj: fantastic.
[15:58] <thebigj> ducasse: Okay.
[15:58] <ducasse> new we'll just need to fix the fstab and efi vars, but i'm seriously short on time here.
[15:59] <thebigj> ducasse: So now, do you think if I will reboot I will not have any issue, and it will be like normal boot?
[15:59] <thebigj> ducasse: Oh so here, we are still not done right?
[15:59] <ducasse> thebigj: 'blkid sda1'
[15:59] <thebigj> ducasse: I truely respect your time.
[15:59] <ducasse> thebigj: 'blkid /dev/sda1', sorry
[15:59] <thebigj> ducasse: /dev/sda1: UUID="00E3-25C3" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="4c8efb78-6012-4ffc-b6eb-3c6e95df7479"
[16:01] <ducasse> thebigj: ok, you need to replace the old UUID value for /boot/efi with this one in /etc/fstab and remove the '#' in front of it
[16:01] <ioria> thebigj,  so grub-efi was not installed or removed ?
[16:01] <thebigj> Remove '#' at where /boot/efi?
[16:02] <ducasse> thebigj: do you see the line in /etc/fstab with /boot/efi?
[16:03] <ducasse> thebigj: it starts with a #, remove that.
[16:03] <thebigj> ducasse: Sorry but I am not sure where /etc/fstab is located at
[16:03] <thebigj> ducasse: And I am not observing '#' anywhere.
[16:04] <thebigj> ducasse: Apologies if this is sounding as a stupid question.
[16:04] <ducasse> thebigj: /etc/fstab is a file on your root filesystem
[16:04] <ioria> thebigj,  cat /etc/fstab
[16:05] <thebigj> ducasse: OKay. So now, I should remove those all '#' right?
[16:05] <thebigj> and updated new uuid where?
[16:05] <ioria> thebigj,  no
[16:05] <ducasse> not all of them, just the /boot/efi one
[16:05] <thebigj> ioria: Then?
[16:05] <thebigj> ducasse: Okay.
[16:05] <ioria> thebigj,  just the /boot/efi line
[16:06] <thebigj> ioria: Which is very first line right?
[16:06] <ioria> thebigj,  if you paste that file we can tell you
[16:06] <thebigj> ioria: No. Got it which line you are talking about
[16:06] <ioria> thebigj,  and correct the uuid if wrong
[16:07] <ducasse> thebigj: and replace the old UUID with 00E3-25C3
[16:07] <ioria> thebigj,  and please, paste again the file after the correction
[16:08] <thebigj> ducasse: So in this file (https://dpaste.de/rZur/raw) from top 8th hash I have to remove? Where first '#' is at 0th position not 1st.
[16:09] <thebigj> 8th and 9th '#'
[16:09] <ioria> thebigj,  do you see this line : #UUID=AA63-0A8C  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1 ?
[16:09] <ducasse> thebigj: change '#UUID=AA63-0A8C' to 'UUID=00E3-25C3'
[16:10] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/z0EF/raw
[16:10] <thebigj> Is this change looks promissing?
[16:10] <ioria> yes
[16:10] <ducasse> bingo
[16:10] <thebigj> ducasse: Great.
[16:11] <ioria> thebigj,  sudo update-grub
[16:11] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/TKNk/raw
[16:11] <thebigj> ioria: ^^
[16:12] <ioria> thebigj,  ducasse ... reboot ?
[16:12] <ducasse> thebigj: now all we need is the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v'
[16:12] <ducasse> ioria: i want to be certain the efi vars are ok
[16:12] <ioria> ok
[16:12] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/EKVR/raw
[16:14] <ducasse> ok, everything looks good. afaict this should work.
[16:14] <Rboreal_Frippery> In 17.04 often the nautilus file manager will copy files correctly but the progress bar never vanishes
[16:14] <ioria> thebigj,  for any problem, you can use the livecd... do you have one ?
[16:15] <Rboreal_Frippery> is there some process I can kill to manually fix that
[16:16] <thebigj> ioria: Unfortunatley the CD drive is broken
[16:16] <ducasse> thebigj: usb stick?
[16:16] <ioria> thebigj,  ^
[16:16] <thebigj> ioria: So I think choosing USB is the better option
[16:16] <thebigj> ducasse: Yes, I should burn UDB
[16:16] <ioria> thebigj,  livecd = usb_live
[16:16] <thebigj> *USB
[16:17] <thebigj> Let me reboot.
[16:17] <ducasse> thebigj: i'd write the usb first, but...
[16:17]  * ducasse shrugs
[16:20]  * thebigj will update here once he will complete his Masala-dosa
[16:21] <StrangeNoises> sounds like a call for curry
[16:21] <swarfega> i want some now
[16:21] <StrangeNoises> yeah. but it's sunday evening now, and bank holiday tomorrow. no-where around here to get the makings until tuesday. ☹️
[16:22] <swarfega> indeed
[16:22] <swarfega> and its ideal weather for curry
[16:22] <StrangeNoises> meaning Too Damn Hot. sitting here in the blast from a big fan, and another one overhead.
[16:23] <swarfega> thats why you have curry in the summer, sweat it out :D
[16:23] <StrangeNoises> i was sipping some rather nice Albariño but it's all gone now
[16:23] <swarfega> :/
[16:25] <StrangeNoises> fraid i've gone back to macOS until the hidpi issues on my linux install are resolved. That's why i can enter accented characters and emoji easy 😜 (seriously how do you even do that on linux? i've been using it since the 90s and i have no idea)
[16:27] <ducasse> StrangeNoises: accented characters, set up a compose key
[16:28] <ducasse> you _can_ enter emoji as unicode code points, but it's slow. there was a piece on some software for doing it easily on omgubuntu recently.
[16:29] <StrangeNoises> i was using emoji-keyboard for a little while, which is ok but apparently doesn't work under wayland. in tweetdeck with tweetdeck-better it has its own internal picker, and nota-emoji fonts work in chrome too, but that doesn't help anywhere else
[16:31] <ducasse> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/type-emoji-ibus-linux
[16:31] <ducasse> never tried it.
[16:32] <ducasse> if you know the code point you can enter it with ctrl+shift+u<code point>
[16:32] <StrangeNoises> as for compose-key for accents, istr it didn't offer almost any of the ones in common-ish use for English. i mean, it's got stuff like thorn but not acute accents, cedillas, tildas like the ñ (opt-n on macos) used above
[16:33] <StrangeNoises> i shall bookmark that though as i kept hearing about using ibus to do it but never found the method
[16:33] <ducasse> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key#Common_compose_combinations
[16:34] <ducasse> i also use dead keys for accents etc.
[16:35] <ducasse> (so ~ + n = ñ)
[16:37] <dckx_> hi, quick question. I'm installing ubuntu on a laptop that has 3 hdds. In one hdd I installed windows 10. In another hdd, I have just data. In the third one, I want to install ubuntu. That hdd is 128gb. I created a 16gb partition for swap, 50gb for root, and I want the rest for /home. My question is: should I create a boot partition? If so, should it be in that hdd? Or should I select the windows loader partition as the /boot partition for ubuntu?
[16:37] <StrangeNoises> don't bother with any of that these days. just point the installer at the disk and let it do what it wants
[16:37] <StrangeNoises> swap partitions are *so* 1990s 😉
[16:38]  * thebigj found he don't have ubuntu image (iso) with him. he is downloading from ubuntu server.
[16:38] <ducasse> dckx_: which ubuntu version are you installing?
[16:38] <StrangeNoises> if it's a UEFI system, /boot/efi will usually be the EFI partition to boot from
[16:38]  * thebigj thinks it is showing some 24 minutes
[16:38] <dckx_> ducasse: 16.04.03 I think
[16:38] <BluesKaj> dckx_, 50Gis awfully big for root / , 15G is plenty
[16:38] <dckx_> StrangeNoises: it is UEFI but I don't see that partition on the list
[16:39] <ducasse> dckx_: that will be on your windows disk, most likely
[16:39] <akik> StrangeNoises: please don't spread fud
[16:39]  * thebigj he will be able to update here after 25 minutes because the download will take that much time
[16:40] <dckx_> ducasse: So it would be the windows loader partition? I should select that one as the boot partition for ubuntu?
[16:40] <dckx_> BluesKaj: thanks, I'll resize
[16:40] <BluesKaj> right
[16:41] <StrangeNoises> akik i'm sorry i'm not intending to spread fud. rather it's the case that these days you usually don't have to sweat these details, the installer will do something sensible. if you know you have a need for a specialist partition layout you probably wouldn't need to ask here about it :-)
[16:41]  * thebigj was reading Docker up and running. He thinks he should continue reading that until image of ubuntu is downloaded
[16:42] <StrangeNoises> it's relatively easy in this case as the user can dedicate a whole disk to linux rather than sharing it with other OSes; those are on other disks. so just select GPT/GUID partition table and let it do its thing, IMHO, is the simplest way
[16:42] <akik> StrangeNoises: the swap partition was only removed in new installations of 17.04
[16:42] <dckx_> StrangeNoises: I'm a complete noob and usually I select "install ubuntu alongside windows", but in this case I just wanted to make sure that windows was on one hdd, and ubuntu in the other one
[16:42] <ducasse> dckx_: just let the installer handle things, and select the partitions it lists as efi partition for the bootloader
[16:43] <BluesKaj> akik, so which partition is grub installed on uefi syatem?
[16:43] <StrangeNoises> akik true, he said 16.04. *still*, saying "use entire disk for ubuntu" will let it do its thing and for 16.04 it will create a swap partition it's happy with
[16:43] <BluesKaj> system
[16:44] <StrangeNoises> i think telling it to use GPT/GUID as the partition table (and not MBR) makes it a UEFI install that the bios should pick up?
[16:44] <StrangeNoises> 16.04 could do that right?
[16:45] <akik> BluesKaj: i point grub install to the efi partition during install
[16:45] <dckx_> I just went back and selected "erase all disk" and selected the hdd which was not windows. Thanks for the recommendations
[16:45] <ioria> watch "dmesg | tail -20"
[16:45] <ducasse> StrangeNoises: according to the spec, uefi can boot from both mbr and gpt. windows, not so much.
[16:45] <StrangeNoises> dckx_ that should be simplest
[16:47] <StrangeNoises> ducasse i found i needed to make the installer usb EFI-based so i could just boot on it with the system not in legacy bios mode. then everything went very smoothly, on both this pc and the macbook pro. by default doing so on a MBR-FAT formatted USB it wasn't detected. different UEFI/EFI systems may differ on that, I understand
[16:47] <BluesKaj> akik, which is /boot/uefi/ when it's done
[16:48] <ducasse> StrangeNoises: yes, there are a lot of non-compliant firmwares out there. thankfully my motherboard has an excellent one :)
[16:48] <akik> /boot/efi
[16:48] <StrangeNoises> think it probably just took a little while for the 'standard' to settle. 😀 this one's a Haswell, from about 2012/2013
[16:49] <StrangeNoises> and in UEFI mode ignored a boot disk on MBR. once i'd made a GPT version it was extremely happy. ditto for installing Windows for that matter. Make a UEFI boot usb for Windows 10 and the whole process was *so* much smoother
[16:50] <BluesKaj> akik yeah, /efi/boot, my mistake
[16:52] <akik> and to make things more complex, ubuntu writes its files in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[16:53] <BluesKaj> wonder if I should restore my laptop to gpt and uefi ...using msdos/legacy due to the confusion with uefi -gpt when I bought it, however I still don't see it's advantage for a home user
[16:53] <StrangeNoises> oh it's all horrid and complex but at least it's not in invisible boot sectors any more 😉
[16:54] <StrangeNoises> BluesKaj i can't entirely account for it but certainly with windows the *whole install* was so much more stable once i'd installed it definitively as UEFI not bios
[16:54] <StrangeNoises> don't know if it makes such a difference on linux
[16:54] <StrangeNoises> once the kernel's booted, on linux, you're in, generally speaking
[16:55] <BluesKaj> i don't use windows nor do I intend to in the future
[16:55] <akik> dual booting with uefi is an experience
[16:57] <ducasse> rly? i dualboot ubuntu and arch, works like a charm. maybe windows makes it nasty, wouldn't exactly surprise me.
[16:57] <elitecoder> How to I set a default owner for a directory so that all future files/folders - no matter who creates them, are owned by the default user?
[16:57] <StrangeNoises> problem i found eg: with refind on the macbook pro is that it discovered several different ways to boot linux and put them all in a menu; of which at the time only one (grub64) actually worked properly. but since that machine was upgraded to 17.10 it also boots the kernel directly
[16:57] <akik> because the uefi implementations i'm forced to enter the uefi boot file in my laptop's bios. the windows uefi setup is the default
[16:58] <StrangeNoises> ... so i don't really need refind any more, though i might reinstate it because it's prettier than having to select "EFI Boot" from the opt-boot screen
[17:05]  * thebigj is preparing USB boot of Ubuntu 16.04
[17:11] <elitecoder> How to I set a default owner for a directory so that all future files/folders - no matter who creates them, are owned by the default user?
[17:13] <thebigj> ducasse: Hey
[17:14] <thebigj> I rebooted.
[17:14] <brainwash> elitecoder: maybe you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[17:14] <thebigj> Your help worked :)
[17:14] <ducasse> thebigj: great :)
[17:14] <thebigj> Many thanks for helping me.
[17:14] <ducasse> thebigj: you're welcome :)
[17:14] <thebigj> People are nice here. Very much greatful towards Ubuntu community.
[17:14] <thebigj> :)
[17:15] <elitecoder> brainwash: yeah that's one thing I'm looking into. Keeping my eyes open for another.
[17:27] <thebigj> I found I am unable to boot from USB.
[17:27] <thebigj> The problem with my groub is solved now and I have re-started my workstation many times.
[17:27] <thebigj> But, I am explicitly trying to boot from USB.
[17:28] <thebigj> And it tells, Operating system not found.
[17:28] <thebigj> Which I am able to run using 'quem' command nicely
[17:33] <ioria> thebigj, you need to select it from bios ... and how did you do the stick ?
[17:37] <thebigj> ioria: I found I am unable to see option UDB device in Boot menu of my bios. There is where you can specify priority of boot device.
[17:37] <thebigj> ioria: But in Sony vaio workstations, you have option "Assist" button on your laptop.
[17:37] <ioria> thebigj, idk what that is
[17:37] <thebigj> ioria: Once you presess it, it opens one wizard (this is when you are shutdown"
[17:37] <thebigj> )
[17:38] <thebigj> ioria: And then you can choose option "Boot from USB drive"
[17:38] <thebigj> I am choosing that.
[17:38] <thebigj> This was working nice.
[17:38] <thebigj> I have formatted, livebooted many time
[17:38] <thebigj> times
[17:38] <ioria> thebigj,  how did you do the stick ? with what sw ?
[17:41] <nbusrone> I had installed a 3rd party program but when install on terminal it mention 400mb space be use but when I wanted to uninstall remove purge it said only 48mb .How should I do to fully remove all to free out the space ?
[17:42] <ioria> nbusrone, what program ? and have you tried autoremove ?
[17:42] <thebigj> ioria: I am sorry but I am not getting what you want to ask here.
[17:43] <ioria> thebigj,  you did a live usb, right ?
[17:43] <thebigj> ioria: Oh, yes
[17:43] <ioria> thebigj,  with what program ?
[17:43] <thebigj> ioria: I have used 'dd' first. That was giving the exact error.
[17:43] <thebigj> ioria: Then I restored the image from 'gnome-disks'.
[17:44] <thebigj> ioria: Now, trying unetbootin
[17:44] <thebigj> ioria: Everytime I was able to run it using 'qemu'
[17:48] <akik> thebigj: ubuntu isos can be written to usb disks with dd
[17:48] <akik> usb sticks
[17:51] <nbusrone> ioria : "ifme" some converter for 265x , it also install window lib.
[17:53] <ducasse> nbusrone: was this installed as a package?
[17:53] <ioria> nbusrone, mmm. probably installed mono
[17:54] <ioria> nbusrone, dpkg -l | grep mono
[17:57] <nbusrone> ducasse : I just did a sudo apt-get install ifme at terminal
[17:58] <ioria> !info ifme
[17:58] <ioria> nbusrone, from ppa ?
[17:59] <ducasse> nbusrone: then it dragged in something that is an optional dependency of something else. like mono, as ioria says.
[17:59] <thebigj> ioria: Unetbootin worked for me
[17:59] <nbusrone> ioria : yep , I installed mono I think , what is mono ? http://www.mono-project.com/download/#download-lin
[18:00] <ioria> nbusrone, dpkg -l | grep mono
[18:00] <kopykat> Goodevening all
[18:00] <ioria> nbusrone, paste it please
[18:00] <kopykat> I have a question for you. I did: mv filename /
[18:00] <kopykat> And my file dissapeared. Any idea what did i do and what happened?
[18:01] <nbusrone> ioria : ok , wait a minute
[18:01] <ducasse> kopykat: you moved it to the root of the filesystem
[18:01] <antonm> Is there any way to connect to people.ubuntu.com without using ssh?
[18:01] <ducasse> kopykat: try 'mv /filename .' to move it back to your current dir
[18:05] <kopykat> There is no file in root dir
[18:05] <kopykat> lemme try the 2nd
[18:05] <nbusrone> ioria : https://paste.ee/p/AKvWi#IJZxUXybbyoCyRciJyHg3eLOwfDfnvHI
[18:05] <kopykat> No such file or directory
[18:05] <kopykat> @ducasse
[18:05] <ducasse> antonm: did you try reading the webpage at people.ubuntu.com?
[18:05] <ioria> nbusrone, yers, i'd say you have mono
[18:06] <ducasse> kopykat: well, that's what it does
[18:06] <antonm> ducasse: Yes
[18:06] <kopykat> renames it to /filename and moves it to root?
[18:06] <ioria> nbusrone, do you need it ?
[18:07] <ducasse> antonm: "If you are connecting to the service and do not have a valid SSH key on the server, Nautilus will display a DBus error complaining that it did not receive a reply. There is no password authentication on the server."
[18:07] <antonm> I know
[18:07] <antonm> I have a valid SSH key
[18:07] <kopykat> Thats what i wanted to do. But instead of moving filenane to root, its just dissapeared
[18:07] <antonm> but it still responds with "Permission denied (publickey)."
[18:08] <ducasse> kopykat: no, keeps the filename and moves it to root. you're the one who called it 'filename', it might be anything.
[18:08] <ducasse> antonm: we don't have anything to do with those services, you'll need to ask the people who do.
[18:09] <kopykat> in root ducasse, in root there is nothing
[18:09] <ducasse> kopykat: 'ls /' doesn't show it?
[18:09] <nbusrone> ioria : I am not sure which other program needed the mono.But do I know which mono ifme installed ?
[18:10] <kopykat> no
[18:10] <ioria> nbusrone, mono is c sharp  a programming language
[18:11] <ducasse> kopykat: did you run mv with sudo?
[18:11] <kopykat> not with sudo, i was root
[18:12] <ioria> nbusrone, usually you don't need it
[18:13] <ducasse> kopykat: that's all that command does, that's all i can tell you.
[18:14] <nbusrone> ioria : oh,  but if I remove it , consider removing all the mono ? I just sorry some software required mono.Possible to check which software use mono?
[18:15] <antonm> ducasse, who would I ask then?
[18:15] <kopykat> thanx m8. but i still have the problem. If anyone else has any other idea, i would appreciate it
[18:15] <ioria> nbusrone, i don't know what you have on your system, but if it was installed with ifme, i'd say you don't need it anymore
[18:16] <ducasse> antonm: you're in a better position than me to know since you have an account.
[18:16] <nbusrone> ioria : ok , how do I uninstall it ?
[18:16] <ducasse> kopykat: are you 100% sure that's all you did?
[18:17] <ioria> nbusrone, sudo apt-get purge mono-complete mono-runtime
[18:18] <kopykat> yes m8
[18:18] <kopykat> And i did it, exactly for the purpose you say. To move the file to root
[18:18] <ioria> nbusrone, you can also  purge the entire ppa with ppa-purge
[18:18] <kopykat> root dir
[18:19] <nbusrone> ioria : Ok , but first I must remove the ifme then purge mono ?
[18:19] <ioria> nbusrone, nope, simply purge the ppa
[18:20] <ioria> !info ppa-purge
[18:20] <ducasse> kopykat: and the file did not have the same name as one of the directories in /?
[18:24] <kopykat> ducasse, it did have the same name
[18:24] <ducasse> kopykat: then it will be in that dir
[18:24] <kopykat> but not same case
[18:24] <ducasse> ah
[18:25] <ducasse> kopykat: check 'history'
[18:25] <kopykat> i ve checked it
[18:25] <kopykat> what do you need
[18:26] <ducasse> i want you to check you didn't mistype something, doublecheck exactly what you did
[18:29] <kopykat> no i didnt, double checked
[18:29] <kopykat> but look
[18:29] <kopykat> right after i did that command
[18:29] <kopykat> i couldnt find the file anywhere
[18:29] <kopykat> i did by chance in the root directory
[18:30] <kopykat> this: /filename
[18:30] <kopykat> and it started running
[18:30] <kopykat> but because it missed some parameters it closed
[18:30] <ducasse> so it was there, at least
[18:30] <kopykat> now i try to do it again but it doesnt work
[18:31] <kopykat> but not as filename, but as /filename
[18:31] <ducasse> same thing, if that's where it is
[18:32] <ducasse> you would need to give it the full path to run it unless . is in your path
[18:33] <kopykat> i ll compile it again
[18:33] <kopykat> whats the path of root user?
[18:34] <kopykat> if file runs like this ./filename
[18:34] <kopykat> what should i write?
[18:35] <ducasse> ./filename means 'run filename from current directory'
[18:44] <kopykat> compiled-took much less time. I used cp this time and moved it to another folder, not root
[18:44] <kopykat> thanx for your time and effort ducasse
[18:45] <nbusrone> ioria : Thanks , it took sometime reading to understand ppa and purge it.sudo ppa-purge ppa:upubuntu-com/multimedia from where I install the ifme .http://www.upubuntu.com/2015/01/how-to-convert-videos-from-and-to-h265.html Thanks again :)
[18:45] <ioria> nbusrone, very good job
[18:50] <nbusrone> ioria : I have another question which is not related.Can I possible to move the ubuntu OS from extended partition to primary partition ? ?
[18:53] <ducasse> nbusrone: is there a problem with it being on an extended partition?
[18:55] <ioria> nbusrone, to be honest yes ... but not recommended
[18:56] <nbusrone> ducasse , ioria : Nope , but I really mess up a lot on the partition.Current extended partition is just 30GB which I can't increase the size.The only way to move to primary and delete the extended.
[18:56] <ioria> nbusrone, paste sudo parted -l , please
[18:57] <nbusrone> ioria : Yep , I know , it's not recommended during my previous search
[18:59] <ioria> nbusrone, you rewrite the pt with sfdisk, reinstall grub (and maybe correct fstab) ; but i would not do it
[19:00] <nbusrone> ioria : Sorry for newbie with the mess up partition https://paste.ee/p/j1zRl#v4gwTV3sT198fx3IUadsrWn28F6aozZX
[19:01] <ioria> nbusrone, at first look, it's ok
[19:01] <nbusrone> ioria : current  8      249GB   280GB  31.5GB  logical   ext4. I mess a lot of it .I create a reserve for virtualbox and I felt I need more space on application.
[19:03] <ioria> nbusrone, what's on 11 and 12 ?
[19:03] <void07> Need Help, Keyboard not working.
[19:04] <nbusrone> ioria : Wait , you mean the paste number ?
[19:05] <ioria> nbusrone, yes ...
[19:05] <ioria> nbusrone, 6 and 7
[19:06] <void07> Hello... anyone help
[19:09] <ducasse> void07: be patient and hang around, someone will help if/when they can
[19:10] <void07> ducasse , Okay
[19:11] <nbusrone> ioria : Window7 on 2 105GB , while 6&7 52GB & 47GB use to install for backup vdi fat32 and NTFS.
[19:13] <nbusrone> ioria : There is one problem I don't understand, why does Disks mention i still have 40GB unused ?
[19:14] <ioria> nbusrone, maybe the reserved ... not sure
[19:16] <antonm> Is it normal to wait 6 hours for a response on irc?
[19:16] <Ben64> depends
[19:16] <oerheks> antonm, depends, or nobody read your question, or nobody got the answer
[19:18] <ioria> nbusrone, reserved should be space  for security reason , if / got full
[19:18] <nbusrone> ioria : Anyhow , I mess up a lot with the hard drive partition , install and uninstall  windows7 , install ubuntu 12,14.04.Sorry for being newbie
[19:18] <oerheks> void07, what is the problem exactly, what details: keyboard, language, ubuntu version?
[19:19] <ioria> nbusrone, no need to be sorry
[19:20] <void07> oerheks , My touchpad wasn't showing enaugh options. So I replced xinput to synaptics. Now My Kbd isn't working. Ubuntu 16.04
[19:20] <ioria> nbusrone, if you need those partitions, nothing to do, unless you format them , move to end of the disk and enlarge /root
[19:22] <OnkelTem> Hi guys
[19:22] <OnkelTem> How to update KDE on 16.04? Do you know a good PPA?
[19:22] <nbusrone> ioria : Oh ok , thanks :) .Back to my main question.Rather than moving a to a primary partition , can I do a fresh install ?
[19:22] <nbusrone> ioria : Ops , I type too slow
[19:23] <OnkelTem> One seemingly official one didn't bring any updates
[19:23] <ioria> nbusrone, a fresh install  ? why not ? do you have back-ups ?
[19:23] <void07> oerheks, I fixed it by reinstalling xlib
[19:24] <nbusrone> ioria : Yep , that is my question ,how do I do a full backup my current application software list ?
[19:24] <nbusrone> ioria : Just copy the /home ?
[19:24] <ioria> nbusrone, nope
[19:25] <ioria> nbusrone, i suggest aptoncd
[19:26] <oerheks> !clone
[19:26] <ioria> yeah, that ^
[19:27] <oerheks> or the dpkg examples, but i would not backup exact the packageversions, just the metapackages.
[19:28] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages
[19:34] <OnkelTem> Guys, which Plasma version is in 17.x?
[19:37] <nbusrone> ioria : Sorry for my absent reply , thank you , I 'll research more on the aptoncd and Clone. :D
[19:38] <ioria> nbusrone, good
[19:38] <ioria> !info plasma-desktop
[19:40] <ioria> nbusrone, just swap should be at the end of the disk, so you might reuse it if needed
[20:25] <jer> anyone recommend a decent DAW? (digital audio workstation)
[20:27] <ikonia> not really on linux
[20:27] <ikonia> people believe the studio64 components make a good daw - I think it sucks compared to comercial industry options
[20:28] <jer> yeah =/
[20:28] <akik> jer: try ardour
[20:28] <jer> i'm used to ableton on my mac, but doubtful i'll ever find anything as nice on linux. but giving things a go
[20:28] <ikonia> jer: it will seem like 15 years old if you're using a modern industry standard daw
[20:29] <jer> gotcha, thanks
[20:33] <ircnubz> jer: have you tried Bitwig?
[20:35] <jer> ircnubz, nope
[20:35] <jer> will take a look thanks
[20:36] <ircnubz> go for it! A very decent Ableton Live 'fork/clone'
[20:39] <catfuneral> in your opinion, what's the best type of Ubuntu to put on a chromebook, via crouton ?
[20:39] <ikonia> none
[20:39] <Rhysers> lol
[20:39] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu and it's not supported here
[20:39] <ircnubz> :)
[20:40] <catfuneral> its kind of ubuntu !
[20:40] <ikonia> it's not
[20:40] <catfuneral> im staring at ubuntu running on a chromebook right now
[20:40] <ikonia> no you're not
[20:40] <ikonia> you're staring at some userland components running over chrome OS base
[20:40] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu and it's not supported here
[20:41] <catfuneral> i bet youre really fun at parties
[20:41] <_BIGSHOT_> catfuneral, parties? what is it? i haven't been to parties since a decade
[20:41] <catfuneral> _BIGSHOT_: an ubuntu INSTALL party of course
[21:02] <ceramik> nice stuff to learn and it still works :) https://github.com/xairy/kernel-exploits/blob/master/CVE-2017-1000112/poc.c
[21:26] <mmarconm> is there some programm thats run a benchmark on wireless and ethernet card. i wanna see the up and download speed
[21:28] <OnkelTem> Guys, I can't install Kubuntu 17.04
[21:29] <OnkelTem> I go through the standard process of installation but at the end I don't have a working system
[21:29] <OnkelTem> First, after I confirm using Entire disk it suggests to auto-create only two partitions: one for EFI and another for /
[21:29] <OnkelTem> but there is no swap partition
[21:30] <swarfega> i think someone said earlier that 17.04 doesnt make one any more
[21:31] <OnkelTem> Second, the system doesn't boot normally after installation. It shows black screen with Kubuntu logo for SEVERAL minutes and then - login screen
[21:31] <OnkelTem> when I disabled splash I saw Failed to mount /swapfile message, dunno though is it critical or not
[21:31] <rasputin880> Is there a simple way to permanently disable my built-in speakers on a laptop. (They are blown and I have external speakers, bluetooth headsets, and regular headphones that I regularly use but I just hate that when one of those isn't connected that it plays audio through the default speakers
[21:31] <OnkelTem> but after one restart system doesn't boot anymore
[21:31] <swarfega> my ubuntu 17.04 hd only has ext4 partition on it
[21:31] <OnkelTem> swarfega: no swap?
[21:31] <swarfega> yea
[21:32] <OnkelTem> wow
[21:32] <OnkelTem> And what if you're out of RAM?
[21:32] <swarfega> i guess its not needed any more
[21:32] <swarfega> this machine has 16gb
[21:32] <OnkelTem> same
[21:32] <mmarconm> LOL
[21:32] <swarfega> i wish windows would get rid of the pagefile as well
[21:32] <swarfega> it was designed for old slow machines in the 90s
[21:32] <noraatepernos> I’m trying to debug a failed connection on a port in 16.04.  Is there a way to view firewall denials?  I can’t seem to find this on google.
[21:33] <OnkelTem> but then what? What if you're out of RAM? Dunno how it works now, but on 14.04 if you're running out of the memory everything justs hangs
[21:33] <swarfega> i doubt youl be out of ram with 16gb
[21:33] <swarfega> if you find you are then consider increasing your ram
[21:34] <OnkelTem> swarfega: believe me, that happens with me every other day
[21:34] <swarfega> with what task?
[21:34] <wedgie> heh, colleague just discovered what happens to a bix if it runs out of ram and has no swap. it dies. of course these were vms with muvh less than 16gb
[21:34] <OnkelTem> Chrome is the main RAM consumer
[21:34] <OnkelTem> Also, java with PHPStorm and VirtualBox
[21:34] <swarfega> it does use a lot yea
[21:34] <swarfega> how many extensions?
[21:35] <demophobia> I tried 'try lubuntu without installing' on this Dell D620 and i'm just staring at a black screen. what's gone wrong?
[21:35] <OnkelTem> swarfega: dozen
[21:35] <swarfega> do you use the google extensions that are usually shipped with it?
[21:36] <OnkelTem> swarfega: don't think so, maybe 1-2, like integration with KDE
[21:36] <swarfega> yea so remove the google extensions
[21:36] <swarfega> thatl free up some ram
[21:37] <OnkelTem> some, not too much. There's great Task Manager in Chrome, from there it's always clear what eats RAM. And usually it is pages like Gmail window or Youtube
[21:37] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | demophobia
[21:37] <swarfega> ^
[21:37] <swarfega> i use that all the time
[21:37] <swarfega> at least until i install the nvidia drivers
[21:40] <OnkelTem> Just reinstalled Kubuntu 17.04 and it's booting for the first time. Long minutes of screen with Logo
[21:40] <OnkelTem> What is happening?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> OnkelTem: Mo telling yet . Any hints : ' systemd-analyze ; systemd-analyze blame ; systemd-analyze critical-chain ' ?
[22:02] <supercool> Hello folks
[22:02] <supercool> How do I check which version an app is running?
[22:02] <supercool> By command line
[22:02] <OnkelTem> Does anybody 17.04? Is it usable?
[22:02] <OnkelTem> I've got several crashes for 10 minutes
[22:03] <Bashing-om> Sigyn: 'dpkg -l <package> ' .
[22:03] <supercool> Is it possible to make a vervion upgrade without having to restart the machine?
[22:03] <Bashing-om> OnkelTem: I have a 17.04 install on AMD platform . no issues at all .
[22:04] <demophobia> thank you Bashing-om and swarfega
[22:04] <swarfega> :D
[22:04] <Bashing-om> demophobia: :) All good now ?
[22:04] <demophobia> Bashing-om: i will try in a few hours
[22:04] <supercool> Bashing-om: how do I upgrade a specific package?
[22:05] <supercool> apt-get upgrade <package>
[22:05] <Bashing-om> supercool: Depends on the origin of the package .
[22:05] <Bashing-om> !latest | supercool
[22:06] <supercool> Bashing-om: because I did a apt-get update and then upgrade and weechat app still at version 1.5
[22:06] <Bashing-om> !info weechat xenial
[22:07] <supercool> Bashing-om: what is that?
[22:07] <supercool> I already got verson 1.5 and people are telling it is outdated
[22:08] <supercool> What does linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[22:08] <supercool> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[22:08] <supercool> Means?
[22:08] <blackbird1> !topic
[22:09] <supercool> How can I upgrade those packages?
[22:09] <swarfega> nothing was changed for the linux kernel
[22:09] <supercool> Can I change linux kernel without rebbot?
[22:09] <supercool> reboot*
[22:09] <Bashing-om> supercool: Well, latest in 16.04 is 1.4-2ubuntu0.1. So what release are you running. and where did you get you weechat from ?
[22:09] <swarfega> it usually suggests you reboot after a kernel change
[22:10] <supercool> swarfega: I don't want to reboot
[22:10] <supercool> Bashing-om: how can I figure which version am I runing?
[22:10] <swarfega> you could try looking up ukuu
[22:10] <Bashing-om> supercool: ' dpkg -l weechat ' .
[22:10] <supercool> I mean the computer, not me
[22:10] <supercool> Bashing-om: yes, it is 1.5
[22:11] <supercool> Bashing-om: but I thought we were talking about Ubuntu verson
[22:11] <supercool> version
[22:11] <supercool> Can I use dpkg -l ubuntu?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> supercool: ' lsb_release -a ' .
[22:12] <supercool> Yes, 16.10 :D
[22:12] <Bashing-om> !16.10
[22:12] <supercool> But still with kernel problems
[22:13] <supercool> How can I upgrade linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[22:13] <supercool> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[22:13] <supercool> ???
[22:13] <swarfega> try this utility: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/ukuu-easy-way-to-install-mainline-kernel-ubuntu
[22:13] <supercool> swarfega: I am running server
[22:14] <swarfega> i dont know much about server but id have thought that messing with the kernel was bad
[22:14] <SummerRain> How do i allow teamviewer in ufw?
[22:14] <SummerRain> im new with ubuntu....
[22:14] <SummerRain> i dont know the command to set ufw to allow teamviewer...
[22:14] <supercool> swarfega: just looking for a upgrade
[22:15] <supercool> Jesus Crist this channel is unusefull
[22:15] <supercool> I just need to fucking upgrade my irc client and my fucking kernel
[22:15] <supercool> Is there a fucking admin to assistm me here or not?
[22:15] <blackbird1> Hi, is it possible to modify permission on a file to be runnable, on a FAT32 partition ?
[22:16] <supercool> Can waist my time with tish bullshit
[22:17] <supercool> Is it just a fucking command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:17] <SummerRain> @supercool no one here will help you for free
[22:17] <SummerRain> no one is your slave.
[22:17] <supercool> What is so difficult about that???
[22:17] <SummerRain> Your time isnt more important than everyone else.
[22:17] <supercool> SummerRain: so get the fuck out of internet if you are not here to help you are a fucking parasite
[22:17] <supercool> Get off
[22:17] <SummerRain> So mad...
[22:17] <krytarik> !language | supercool
[22:17] <SummerRain> Maybe you shouldnt use linux if you suck so much
[22:18] <OnkelTem> Bashing-om: thhanks. Didn't know about system-analyzed. Great thing
[22:18] <supercool> SummerRain: I suck because or morons like you
[22:18] <SummerRain> @supercool try windows, should be easier for you. "low iq"
[22:18] <supercool> SummerRain: go jurk off
[22:18] <blackbird1> supercool: Ask "properly" you question or leave
[22:18] <blackbird1> your*
[22:19] <SummerRain> After what he said, no one with self respect should help him
[22:19] <supercool> blackbird1: I need a help to upgrade weechat app
[22:19] <swarfega> "Upgrading to a mainline Linux kernel is generally not a good idea. If in doubt, don’t mess about."
[22:19] <supercool> swarfega: come on!
[22:19] <swarfega> thats from the website i linked you
[22:19] <supercool> swarfega: next time someone ask you just say "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:20] <Bashing-om> supercool: Tou can not on 16.10 ... You have but 2 options to have any support . 1) clean intall the current LTS release 16.04 . 2) upgrade to 17.04 .
[22:20] <supercool> 1sec and solved
[22:20] <SummerRain> @supercool please leave this chat.
[22:20] <SummerRain> you are toxic
[22:20] <Bashing-om> OnkelTem: We all have a lot to learn about systemd :)
[22:20] <OnkelTem> Bashing-om++
[22:20] <blackbird1> [23:19:17] <SummerRain> After what he said, no one with self respect should help him ==> Yes indeed.
[22:20] <supercool> Bashing-om++
[22:21] <BUSY> hello!  how can i passively monitor a directory and get alerts when it changes?
[22:21] <supercool> blackbird1: don't be such a cock sucker
[22:21] <SummerRain> @supercool go back to windows. You arent smart enough for linux
[22:21] <fooperman> SummerRain: Please stop inciting him.
[22:22] <SummerRain> I will, or he will start insulting more.
[22:22] <SummerRain> Anyway, how do i set ufw to allow teamviewer?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> supercool: We are all vomunteers here . Be cool or be banned ., the choice of conduct is yours .
[22:23] <supercool> Bashing-om: could you help me upgrade weechat please?
[22:23] <supercool> Do you know how?
[22:24] <Flannel> supercool: `sudo apt-get install weechat` will make weechat the latest version for your ubuntu
[22:24] <kk4ewt> SummerRain, https://answers.launchpad.net/gui-ufw/+question/432807
[22:25] <SummerRain> Thanks @kk4ewt
[22:25] <Flannel> which is essentially what was already said with the upgrade command.
[22:25] <Bashing-om> supercool: There is no support for the End_Of_Life release 16.10. The software repsository no longer exists . To maintain 'buntu you have only the 2 options .
[22:25] <SummerRain> sudo ufw allow PORT ?
[22:25] <supercool> Flannel: alright, got it.
[22:29] <supercool> Bashing-om: thank you!
[22:29] <supercool> Flannel: Thank you!
[22:30] <SummerRain> @supercool are you calm now?
[22:30] <supercool> SummerRain: do you still here?
[22:30] <SummerRain> @supercool apologize
[22:32] <Bashing-om> supercool: :) Hope to help . We move on .
[22:33] <supercool> Bashing-om: this is the spirit
[22:33] <SummerRain> supercool
[22:33] <SummerRain> SummerRain: so get the fuck out of internet if you are not here to help you are a fucking parasite
[22:33] <SummerRain> Thats the spirit?
[22:34] <supercool> One lass parasite at least
[22:34] <supercool> less*
[22:37] <eein> hello. are there modern ubuntu docs on adding ipsec
[22:37] <eein> everything I find is a all over the place. some top hits are 6.10 docs
[22:38] <eein> installing network-manager-vpnc does not give you ipsec capabilities
[23:13] <SubCool> Ok, i Have an odd question. but im sure you guys can help. I two machines, 1.) Freenas, 2.) Kubuntu. Both have Two nic cards. Both are connected to my router. Both are connected DIRECTLY to eachother. - WHen i connect them to eachother - they get confused. The COmputers are on networks 192.168.2.x and 192.168.3.x ; The Network which are directly connected to eachother are 3.x - HOw confused - idk:The two computers cam see eacho
[23:16] <Ben64> SubCool: why connect them together
[23:18] <hexdec> hello world
[23:19] <SubCool> Ben64, HEY! Faster connection. Ive been trying to back up my freenas, but having a directly connected USB drive appears to be taboo. SO i have to back it up onto another computer. THe current transfer speed isnt any higher than 10mbs. With the GIg. interface im already at near 20mbs.
[23:26] <Ben64> SubCool: uh, get a gigabit switch
[23:34] <SubCool> Ben64I was also trying to take the traffic away from the one line. LIke RIght now, i have BOTH nics doing the back up of 20mb and 10 mbs. lol - i ran out of space. SO- im realy hoping to just make this setup work. IM not sure why its being like this. Ive given each interface a gateway, unless the IP4 section is buggy or something.
[23:40] <Ben64> SubCool: well you wouldn't have a gateway on the directly connected interface
[23:41] <Smaug> hey all. on 16.4. somehow now when I boot it loads the grub command line instead of booting all the way.   I enter the linux and intrd commands, and then boot, and I get dropped into a "busybox" intramfs prompt.  not sure how to boot from there
[23:41] <Smaug> or if there is something from grub I am missing to boot all the way.  I  have seen on the internet that the linux command can also take a "root=  " argument, which I am not using.  Maybe if I add that in it will work?  problem is i'm not sure how to determine the root
[23:41] <SubCool> Ben64, i was thinking the same thing, but i didnt want to not supply a gateway, and leave it it mystery. But- here is the kicker.
[23:41] <Smaug> there isn't anything like /dev/sda in my partition!
[23:41] <Smaug> any thoughts?
[23:42] <dckx-m> hello. I am trying to change my mouse speed for good. I created a sh file with the following text inside: xinput set-prop 11 276 1, which does the trick in terminal. I then go to gnome-session-properties, and added the sh file to the start up sequence. However, after rebooting, the mouse speed is back to default. What am I missing? is my syntax incorrect?
[23:42] <SubCool> Ben64, so- when i try to ping anything from kubuntu, it uses the 3.x address as a source. WHICH has lead me to CONFUSED, and curious..... so why is it choosing 3.x network?
[23:43] <Ben64> dckx-m: you probably need to make the script better, add a hashbang and specify display
[23:43] <Ben64> SubCool: probably because you set a gateway
[23:43] <SubCool> ok, so then why is the IP4 tab removing the gateway, but routes doesnt?
[23:44] <Ben64> removing the gateway?
[23:44] <SubCool> Ben64, do you watch game of thrones?
[23:45] <dckx-m> Ben64: thanks
[23:45] <SubCool> yeah, whenever i set the ip4 tab with a gateway, it turns them to 0's. but if i put the address in routes, it stays. i can say, im not sure how routes button/tab works.
[23:45] <intr0x80> How do I determine what's the newest kernel version available in Ubuntu?
[23:46] <Ben64> intr0x80: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[23:46] <Ben64> will show the latest version of that package for your version of ubuntu
[23:46] <intr0x80> Ah, great!
[23:47] <intr0x80> Thanks, Ben64.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Smaug: Operating systems are not simple any more . Now when booting . we must contend with a) EFI b) sepatate /boot partiton c) encryption d) raid/LVM .. and on and on . so what is your set up ?
[23:48] <SubCool> Ben64, thanks for the help. Im going to give it a whirl. Enjoy your sunday!!!
[23:49] <Smaug> Bashing-om: I have a desktop Ubuntu 16.04.  It was pre-installed on a system76 computer.  there are two partitions, one with all the normal folders in /, another that has an /efi /ubuntu folder in which is some .efi and a grug.cfg file
[23:50] <Smaug> (there are more partiions with "unkonwn" filesystems)
[23:51] <intr0x80> Ben64: Any idea how I'd end up on 4.4.0-93 (which crashes) if the default is 4.4.0-21 ?
[23:51] <Ben64> intr0x80: what version of ubuntu and whats the output of uname -r
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Smaug: Then you are looking at also having to tell grub about the EFI partition . That is where grub's boot files are also located . That said I too have no experience with booting a EFI system .
[23:52] <intr0x80> Ben64: Ubuntu 16.04 x86_64; Right now it's 4.4.0-89-generic but I had to do some nonsense to keep the system from crashing on some 9x verison (I think 93)
[23:52] <Smaug> Bashing-om: what is the nature of the file?  does if have a certain extension?  this is new for me
[23:52] <intr0x80> Ben64: Now I'm trying to figure out how to make things stable and not kludged together.
[23:53] <Ben64> intr0x80: should figure out why it's crashing
[23:53] <intr0x80> it's oopsing, some sort of kernel bug that strikes ~once per day
[23:53] <Ben64> report the bug then?
[23:54] <dckx-m> Ben64: I tried adding #!/bin/sh and #!/bin/bash (which one should I use?) and didn't work in either case. What is that about identifying the display? Also, is it correct that the command is simply "xinput set-prop 11 276 2" (qith no quotations)?
[23:54] <intr0x80> Yeah, probably the best thing to do. I'm just confused as to how my machine got a pile of buggy kernels on it
[23:54] <Ben64> dckx-m: #!/bin/bash and DISPLAY=:0 xinput blah blah
[23:54] <intr0x80> I ran out of space on /boot/ because there were so many kernels installed.  I don't think I can report a decent bug until I understand what's going on a bit better.
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Smaug: I hate to air my ignorance - I know but a little about EFI as I have yet to have to deal with it . If no one else pops up, we see what we both can learn .
[23:54] <Ben64> intr0x80: well if nobody reported a bug in one then it would keep happening
[23:55] <intr0x80> Ben64: yep. I'll see if I can figure out how I ended up in the borked state.
[23:55] <Ben64> if its what you said, then it was just a normal update
[23:56] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[23:56] <intr0x80> Ben64: Is it normal for ubuntu to (totally autonomously) run out of space in /boot/ and then start crashing on all "apt-get" commands? That's probably the real bug.
[23:58] <Ben64> intr0x80: that's a different issue
[23:59] <Smaug> Bashing-om: thank you for your help so far.  i suppose i'll just continue poking around on my own?  or is there something I should try?