[00:13] <Noob> Hello, is the xubuntu download like a LiveUSB version? I can run it directly wihtout installing it, right?
[00:13] <krytarik> Yep.
[00:15] <Noob> and if I have space on my USB, how do I run it so it saves stuff to the USB? I should get something at least 8 GB right?
[00:26] <krytarik> Noob: 1.) You can try 'mkusb' as outlined here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/397481/how-to-make-a-persistent-live-ubuntu-usb-with-more-than-4gb  2.) 8 GB is probably excessive.
[00:27] <Noob> alright! thanks
[00:27] <krytarik> Sure.
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[04:20] <joegiampaoli> If I have both physical ethernet connected and wifi enabled does ethernet have a higher priority over the wifi connection?
[04:20] <joegiampaoli> I ask so I don't have to enable and disable the wifi everytime I hardwire the connection...
[07:15] <dingdingwikki> hello
[07:15] <dingdingwikki> So I just installed xubuntu 16.04 on an older box that had been running kubuntu 12.04 (totally fresh install, not an upgrade)
[07:16] <dingdingwikki> I'm trying to get basic setup working. Figured out how to get a 4x2 grid of workspaces (which was not as trivial as I think it ought to have been), and am now trying to get keyboard navigation around the workspaces working.
[07:17] <dingdingwikki> Traditionally I use Ctrl-Alt plus the arrow keys, which appears to be the xubuntu (or xfce? not really sure what is dominating here) defaults.
[07:17] <dingdingwikki> The problem is that something seems to be grabbing the left Alt key (and only the left one, the right one works fine)
[07:18] <dingdingwikki> Any press of the left Alt key (even just by itself, before it modifies anything) instead brings up some GUI volume control near the upper right of the screen, and lowers the volume one notch.
[07:18] <dingdingwikki> various things aren't even seeing the left Alt key at all
[07:19] <dingdingwikki> e.g. in emacs, if I try describe-key, the keypress for the left Alt key isn't even seen
[07:20] <dingdingwikki> xev *does* show a KeyPress event for it, but interestingly does *not* show a corresponding KeyRelease event
[07:20] <dingdingwikki> other things involving the left Alt key don't work, it's not just workspace navigation. e.g. Alt-Tab works with the right Alt key, but not the left.
[07:21] <dingdingwikki> I can't figure out what the volume control is. ps output doesn't show any new processes running when it appears, so it must be coming from some existing process.
[07:22] <dingdingwikki> The left Alt key was working fine before (with kubuntu 12.04), so I doubt it's some kind of hardware keyboard issue of it sending a wrong signal.
[07:22] <dingdingwikki> And yesterday I had it plugged into a kubuntu 16.04 laptop and it was working fine then too.
[14:57] <oeno> hi there
[19:27] <esperio> hello
[19:28] <esperio> I've found that my file-roller has no CSD on Xubuntu 16.04. Can somebody help to get it work?
[22:21] <dingdingwikki> Huh, not a lot of conversation here...
[22:21] <dingdingwikki> Anyway, following up on my question about the left Alt key being captured from yesterday.
[22:22] <dingdingwikki> That was set to Alt, but I changed it to None. It didn't help.
[22:23] <dingdingwikki> Also, `showkey -a` doesn't even detect the left Alt key bring pressed (but it does for the right Alt key)
[22:24] <dingdingwikki> Oh, I see a line didn't get sent. When I said "that was set to Alt", I was referring to:
[22:24] <dingdingwikki> "Key used to grab and move windows" from Window Manager Tweaks -> Accessibility
[22:28] <well_laid_lawn> tried   xev   in a terminal to see if the key is recognised ?
[23:20] <dingdingwikki> I posted that yesterday
[23:20] <dingdingwikki> [00:17] <dingdingwikki> The problem is that something seems to be grabbing the left Alt key (and only the left one, the right one works fine) [00:18] <dingdingwikki> Any press of the left Alt key (even just by itself, before it modifies anything) instead brings up some GUI volume control near the upper right of the screen, and lowers the volume one notch. [00:18] <dingdingwikki> various things aren't even seeing the left Alt
[23:21] <dingdingwikki> [00:19] <dingdingwikki> e.g. in emacs, if I try describe-key, the keypress for the left Alt key isn't even seen [00:20] <dingdingwikki> xev *does* show a KeyPress event for it, but interestingly does *not* show a corresponding KeyRelease event [00:20] <dingdingwikki> other things involving the left Alt key don't work, it's not just workspace navigation. e.g. Alt-Tab works with the right Alt key, but not the left. [00:21] <di
[23:21] <dingdingwikki> [00:21] <dingdingwikki> I can't figure out what the volume control is. ps output doesn't show any new processes running when it appears, so it must be coming from some existing process. [00:22] <dingdingwikki> The left Alt key was working fine before (with kubuntu 12.04), so I doubt it's some kind of hardware keyboard issue of it sending a wrong signal. [00:22] <dingdingwikki> And yesterday I had it plugged into a kubuntu 16
[23:22] <dingdingwikki> to clarify, the right Alt key shows both KeyPress and KeyRelease in xev, but the left Alt key only shows KeyPress
[23:23] <dingdingwikki> this is after a fresh install of xubuntu 16.04