[11:27] <yofel_> hi after taking some time off IRC
[11:27] <yofel> (which included telegram in case you tried to reach me through that)
[11:30] <yofel> reason why I'm concerned enough to pop up: We have 13 days left until half of the KC expires, anyone time to organise an election with yet another modified timeframe (which IMO will have to be a bit longer than 2 weeks)
[11:37] <yofel> *does anyone time to organise an election with yet another modified timeframe (which IMO will have to be a bit longer than 2 weeks)?
[11:54] <ahoneybun> yofel: since we need more then 2 weeks then should just extend the current ones till a month or so once the email is sent out
[11:55] <ahoneybun> but I don't think a lot of people will vote/put their name in tbh
[11:56] <yofel> fine with me, and we'll see how it'll turn out. You do have a point
[11:57] <ahoneybun> I've only seen 2/6 member really active (life happens) so not sure
[12:00] <clivejo> hi yofel :)  long time no see!
[12:00] <yofel> o/
[12:01] <clivejo> how are things with you?
[12:02] <clivejo> did you enjoy your trip?
[12:17] <clivejo> any objections to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-August/011318.html ?
 I think that's -devel no?
[12:47] <clivejo> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kubuntu
[12:47] <clivejo> just these three by looks of it
[16:11] <tsimonq2> clivejo: no objections from me
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2017-August/002703.html
[17:34] <valorie[m]> Congratulations Simon!
[17:35] <tsimonq2> Thanks valorie[m] :D
[20:20] <valorie> oh my gosh, I totally forgot about K C dates
[20:21] <valorie> and it's not on our Kubuntu calendar
[20:21] <valorie> what an oversight
[20:21] <valorie> :(
[20:39] <valorie> so, anybody here not running who can conduct the election quick-like?
[20:39] <valorie> ahoneybun, clivejo, claydoh, Mamarok, yofel ?
[20:40] <valorie> or I can, I guess, I believe I have another year on my term
[20:40] <valorie> looks like yofel ran the last one
[20:40] <ahoneybun> how would I run it if I would be running?
[20:41] <ahoneybun> I think I ran the last one to get clivejo in
[20:41] <valorie> imo: look at list archives, and just change the call as needed
[20:41] <valorie> and send out pdq
[20:41] <ahoneybun> I'm running again so I can't do it
[20:41] <ahoneybun> since I don't anyone new is stepping up
[20:41] <valorie> right, good, I'm glad you are running
[20:41] <ahoneybun> *think anyone
[20:42] <valorie> well, we should urge some of the new people to run
[20:42] <valorie> I do not like this do-nothing council
[20:42] <valorie> well, part of it
[20:42] <ahoneybun> I said to add us back for a few months till we get some new folks
[20:42] <valorie> you have been active, and so have I
[20:42] <ahoneybun> well life happens and sometimes you need to step back a bit
[20:42] <ahoneybun> both of which I understand
[20:42] <valorie> and clive stayed active even though he left the council
[20:43] <valorie> me too
[20:43] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:43] <valorie> so I hope he runs again
[20:43] <ahoneybun> I don't see much of Mamarok or claydoh tbh
[20:43] <ahoneybun> only want it's election time I think
[20:43] <ahoneybun> *when
[20:44] <ahoneybun> I also want clivejo back on
[20:44] <ahoneybun> I think the council should be half community stuff and half dev stuff
[20:44] <ahoneybun> so we can see both POVs
[20:46] <ahoneybun> next cycle I'd like the devs to look at snaps and flatpaks more
[20:46] <valorie> well, both should be represented, for sure
[20:46] <valorie> but everyone should *contribute*
[20:46] <ahoneybun> tthey can
[20:46] <ahoneybun> I have flatpaks installed fine
[20:46] <ahoneybun> needed to build the new ones for artful of course
[20:47] <ahoneybun> Kube runs in flatpak, just with Intel I think
[20:48] <ahoneybun> valorie: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/artful-flatpak
[20:48] <ahoneybun> they build fine
[20:49] <valorie> I'm sure we would have to lead on flatpak if we want it, since ubuntu focuses on snaps
[20:49] <valorie> sec
[20:49] <ahoneybun> yea both are cool in their own way, KDE kinda seems to be moving to flatpak tho
[21:22] <valorie> mmmm, some are
[21:22] <valorie> some more to appimage
[21:22] <valorie> and certainly some to snaps
[21:22] <valorie> even though flatpak has the k
[21:22] <valorie> lol
[21:22] <ahoneybun> lol
[21:30] <valorie> yofel: hi
[21:31] <valorie> sorry to just ignore that you came back! and focus on business
[21:31] <valorie> how are ya?
[21:31] <valorie> missed you while you were gone
[21:31] <valorie> so, nobody else spoke up to run the election so I will do it
[21:32] <tsimonq2> I'm thinking of running just for the hell of it :P
[21:44] <valorie> proposed schedule:
[21:44] <valorie> Nomination period: Now to 2017-09-04
[21:44] <valorie> Ballot Preparation: 2017-09-04 to the next day
[21:44] <valorie> Voting Period: 2017-09-04 to 2017-09-09
[21:44] <valorie> End Poll/Results Announced: 2017-09-09
[21:44] <valorie> New Term Begins: 2017-09-09
[21:45] <valorie> i know it's quick, but does that sound reasonable?
 5 days?
[22:01] <valorie> not reasonable?
 not really
[22:01] <valorie> propose a schedule to me?
[22:02] <valorie> a week for nomination and a week for voting/
[22:02] <valorie> ?
 better
[22:05] <valorie> ok, I'll revise
[22:09] <valorie> Nomination period: Now to 2017-09-04
[22:09] <valorie> Ballot Preparation: 2017-09-04 to the next day
[22:10] <valorie> Voting Period: 2017-09-04 to 2017-09-11
[22:10] <valorie> End Poll/Results Announced: 2017-09-11
[22:10] <valorie> New Term Begins: 2017-09-11
 Wondered why my ears were burning
[22:22] <valorie> ok, gonna send?
[22:24] <clivejo> you want me to run it?
[22:32] <ahoneybun> valorie: btw the Spotify flatpak has notification support for Plasma's media player
[22:38] <valorie> clivejo: I would have said yes, but I already started
[22:39] <valorie> unless you want me to copy the email to you and you can put your name on it?
[22:39] <valorie> I do have other stuff to do.....
[22:41] <clivejo> me too, for $ stuff
[22:42] <valorie> clivejo: I can copy to a pastebin, or just email only to you instead of the lists
[22:42] <clivejo> but Ill do it if you want
[22:42] <valorie> your call
[22:42] <tsimonq2> clivejo: So what do we need MOTU'ed in?
[22:42] <clivejo> all KDE stuff
[22:44] <clivejo> I thought it had to be one of the current KC members who seat is safe
[22:44] <clivejo> ie you, yofel or Mamarok
[22:45] <valorie> not afaik
[22:45] <valorie> any kub member can do it
[22:46] <clivejo> ok, sure email me it over
[22:48] <valorie> sent to your kubuntu address
[22:49] <clivejo> where do I need to send to?
[22:49] <clivejo> devel ML ?
[22:49] <valorie> I put a line at the bottome
[22:49] <valorie> -e
[22:49] <valorie> devel, users, council
[22:54] <valorie> http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-artful-aardvark-17-10-beta-1-testing/
[22:54] <valorie> any last minute corrections before we begin pushing this out?
 Nope
[23:05] <valorie> ok, please push out folks
[23:06] <valorie> I always forget reddit etc.
[23:06] <valorie> if someone has more experience than me at that, please post
 Artful Beta 1 testing … http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-artful-aardvark-17-10-beta-1-testing/
 Opps it's on reddit in /r/Kubuntu
[23:20] <valorie> nice
[23:20] <valorie> urgh, nothing on twitter yet?
[23:21] <valorie> sigH
[23:21] <valorie> or mastodon
 I've not gotten there het
 Twitter and Mastodon is done
 Good I hate that this client does not support multiple accounts
 Ah it's just this client
[23:34] <valorie> what client?
 Tusky
[23:34] <valorie> I gave up on using them years back and just use the web twitter etc.
 Best looking one
[23:34] <valorie> oh
 Talon for twitter
[23:35] <valorie> got that on my phone but I doubt I ever used it
 It's pretty dam good
 damn
[23:35] <valorie> there used to be chocoq or so
[23:35] <valorie> but it sucked
 Well that's desktop
 Might as well use web tbh
 I think that's still alive somewhere
 What's with the questions on the ML?
[23:37] <valorie> I want people who are running to talk about what they want to do
[23:37] <valorie> clive removed that from the mail, so i'm asking individually
 Mm I wonder why he did that
[23:41] <valorie> he wanted to run it, he's running it, and that's cool
 Mm I don't like answering that and then I don't actually finish it
[23:42] <valorie> why?
[23:42] <valorie> we all change focus sometimes
[23:42] <valorie> and it isn't a specific question
[23:43] <valorie> I think you should brag on your docs and moving them to sphinx
[23:43] <valorie> that was huge
[23:43] <valorie> and while you're at it, spam for more contributors to the docs
[23:43] <valorie> etc.
[23:43] <valorie> sell yourself
 I'm personally thinking of stripping the docs a bit and adding more Ubuntu stuff
 "I am a Red Bull-powered packaging machine and human Lintian. Vote for me! "
 I want to work on KDE docs more but not sure how to go about that since the channel is dead a lot
 It's only huge if I can get them to auto deploy to the doc site
 @yofel help with that?
[23:48] <clivejo> I didn't remove it, just re-worded it a bit
[23:49] <clivejo> "This schedule shortens all the timelines. Please nominate yourselves or others quickly, so we can get to voting quickly. Please mention what you would like to accomplish within the Kubuntu project (Why people should vote for you)"
 Again, I'll be running. :P
[23:49] <clivejo> put in your email :P
[23:49] <valorie> clivejo: sorry to mis-characterize
 OK :P
[23:50] <valorie> it sounds better than my version
[23:50] <clivejo> I just wanted to personalise it a bit
[23:51] <valorie> it sounds good
[23:51] <ahoneybun> valorie: tbf on the docs, I did that a while ago I think
[23:51] <valorie> .... which is fine, but this is an election, so you should sell your candidacy
[23:52] <valorie> and I'm picking on you because you spoke up first, thus can be the example for the rest
 @valorie, Can I sell Red Bull too? :P
[23:54] <valorie> NO
[23:54] <valorie> horrors!
[23:55] <ahoneybun> yofel: ping
[23:57] <ahoneybun> valorie: SeaGL did not take my talk
[23:58] <valorie> boo
[23:58] <ahoneybun> yea
[23:58] <valorie> I ran out of time to even think of a talk
[23:58] <valorie> much less submit one