[00:25] Project daily-hammerhead build #302: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/302/ [00:27] Project ota-push build #920: SUCCESS in 1 min 45 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/920/ === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [03:20] Hello, would someone be willing to helpe me set up clickable? … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/511/properly-installing-clickable === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:07] MFota was added by: MFota [04:42] @Eureka Algorithm, What distro are you using? For me the guide only worked on ubuntu [04:49] Andre I'm using KDE [04:50] Do you mean the desktop environment or KDE neon? [04:53] KDE neon [04:54] What exactly doesn't work for you? [05:13] As it seems the setup was successful [05:19] The commands should work. Have you tried building for example the calendar app? [05:57] Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #108: SUCCESS in 1 hr 30 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/108/ [06:05] Project ota-push build #921: SUCCESS in 7 min 37 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/921/ [07:27] For all those people who are too young to remember ;) https://opensource.com/article/17/8/linux-anniversary [07:28] I am younger then linux! [07:28] Haha [07:29] When did you start @Flohack [07:30] My first Linux was SuSE Linux 4.2 in 1996 ;) [07:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#/media/File:SuSE_Linux_4.2_Paket_Handbuch_und_CDs.jpg [07:30] Nice! [07:31] My first experience with Linux was in 2001 on our family computer :) [07:31] I was around 6 years old [07:32] cool [07:34] My father showed me a lots of stuff on Linux and I was really excited about that :D [07:53] My first contact with linux was sitting next to a friend seeing him doing incredible cool things in terminal in 1987. But it needs until 2007 for me to switch from win to Ubuntu... [08:23] Project daily-fp2 build #321: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/321/ [08:25] Project ota-push build #922: SUCCESS in 1 min 12 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/922/ [09:24] skrech was added by: skrech [09:27] welcome @skrech [09:28] Welcome :) [09:29] Hey guys! [09:46] no way to set an alarm here... any idea? the BottomEdge doesn't work at all, never visible... [09:46] (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/7qVZJWNU/file_291.jpg [09:49] \o [09:50] I am older than Linux (much older). I started using it in 2006 with Ubuntu Dapper Drake. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [09:53] @BrisPete, What was it like? A world before Linux? [09:54] Was it dark and without joy? I bet it was dark and without joy. [09:55] @PhoenixLandPirate, Lots of blue with white text [09:55] @Lorxu, basically what i said [09:56] Beautiful [09:59] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ys9EKbrj/file_292.mp4 [09:59] @PhoenixLandPirate, Accurate footage of the world before Linux [10:02] @PhoenixLandPirate, that's pretty hi-res for 1992 [10:03] @neothethird, Surprising how much better government technology is, over the stuff us commoners use. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:03] yeah, let's grab some pitforks and torches [10:04] @neothethird, Well, it is bright blue :P [10:05] well... there was also green... [10:05] http://www.coaching-tecnologico.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/monitor_fosforo_verde.jpg [10:06] Can it run Crysis? ;D [10:07] @neothethird, I agree! === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:01] @neothethird, I was used to travel with WARP speed before big blue decided to withdraw it from users. But I had no fear to be able to further avoid the blue madness and my hopes became true with a chameleonized penguin in 1997. [11:02] @Stefan Kalb, without the context, that sentence would sound really weird [11:03] sandervoogt was added by: sandervoogt [11:03] @LarreaMikel, great game! [11:03] Welcome :) [11:04] Thanks [11:04] I tried searching "prehistoric", that I think is one of the first games I've played... but no luck. [12:25] https://twitter.com/UBports/status/901860283697725440 lol, poor UBPorts [12:25] I retweeted this with the phrase "A Free Software tragedy in two tweets" :P [12:27] I can't see what it was a reply to cos I'm blocked :D [12:28] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/BiqLQtnu/file_294.jpg [12:28] (Photo, 586x459) https://irc.ubports.com/QSAsFnE4/file_296.jpg [12:29] @PhoenixLandPirate, Wow, even I haven't managed that and I bitched a lot about Electron on tweets :P [12:45] why do they ignore our community? [12:45] @garrogarri, There may have been some drama around one of his posts when Canonical still had Ubuntu Touch [12:46] @Lorxu, I know I'm brilliant [12:47] @garrogarri, Maybe they're just not aware of how much Ubuntu Touch does [12:51] UBPorts I mean, of course, derp [12:55] Project daily-mako build #96: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-mako/96/ [12:56] Project ota-push build #923: SUCCESS in 53 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/923/ [12:57] @Dalton Durst — Finally fixed my BQ4.5. Reflashed system with use of magic-device-tool, no problems this time. I suspect damaged usb cable was the issue. Thanks all for greate work on ubports! [13:22] Today i learned: `@Dalton` is a telegram channel called "Farham Fucker". The more you know. [13:23] Haha, nice investigation Jan. 🙂 [13:23] Haha, right.. [13:27] @Lorxu, While both is somehow true, we want to brand the product "Ubuntu Touch", and we are the UBports organization :) [14:00] Hello, in latest image in the channel settings there are no channels listed. Sorry, if this is already known. === JanC is now known as Guest96910 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:24] @neothethird, With 3 messages [14:49] @PhoenixLandPirate, Well there was certainly lots of green text on a black background. Worked as a computer operator c. 1974 on an CL 1905E running the George 3 OS. Lots of cards, paper tape, huge hard drives line printers, plotters and crashes. A lot of heavy lifting - literally. Fun though. [15:20] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwzJlvx4ndk [15:21] I have a question (I don't know whether it's dumb or not), whereas the Plasma Mobile guys have gotten the Nexus 5x running their OS (I don't know how well...), what are the odds of UBPorts running on the N5x in the near future? … The Plasma mobile guys are using Halium, and I think I remember hearing that UBPorts was/is/going to use it, too. … Thanks in advance . [15:22] P.S. I ask because, 1. I have a N5x and 2. The N5x is a modern phone and would go a long way in selling the project to a number of users... [15:27] My Nexus 5 works really slow on UBports (it's in terrible condition by itself). On the other hand, my 5x is still great and I wouldn't mind using it. Plasma is a solid option for me on the 5x. [15:27] @vanyasem, You're running Plasma on your 5x? [15:28] Well, I don't use 5x by itself, I just have Plasma installed. [15:28] I'm mainly on HTC 10 with LineageOS (no gapps) [15:28] @vanyasem, I played with it for a few days thougj [15:29] you can PM me for more info [15:29] @vanyasem, and you feel pretty good about it? [15:30] @vanyasem, OK, I'm at work at present, but I would like to continue learning more... [15:30] and i'm a little drunk and eating my pizza. [15:31] @mariogrip, I don't like google.. But i don't like also this guy.. He is been teaching at university that mycrosoft is much more beautiful than gnu/linux.. [15:32] oh, i am literally watching this video rn [15:33] i have a local nextcloud server on a 9-years old PC and it replaces the entire Gsuite [15:34] music streaming, cloud, office, calendar, contacts, tasks, notes, even trello-like boards [15:36] pm me if you have any questions to me [17:39] @andreasimonetti, Lunduke is a "personality"... Not sure u can take him ever seriously. Who remember him from LAS should know what's the story. [17:41] Lunduke's personality (IMO) is good for Linux and OSS in general. He talks about the elephant in the room(s) of several projects and does it in a way that's not all that offensive. … Granted, he's NOT right about everything and I disagree with him a lot, but I have to admit that he's right on about a number of things. … That would include the UX of several projects that honestly SUCK. [17:46] Yep, agree with you. === cachio is now known as cachio_afk [17:47] ...just don't mention Richard Stalman around him :)) [17:48] Lunduke aside, I've LOST my Nexus 4!!!! I can't test the new updates from UBPorts!! Was up until 1am trying to find it (we just moved to a new house and everything's in boxes) [17:48] @S_Greg, He's had Stallman on the Lunduke show already. Apparently, they've kissed and made up [17:49] If it is in a box it isn't lost [17:50] @Stereofont, but the box is lost.... [17:50] Google will know which box [17:50] haha probably! [17:51] @S_Greg, I watched old las's with him in it, but I don't know the story at all tbh [17:52] @PhoenixLandPirate, There was a falling out between he and ChrisLAS. They've never spoken about it openly and they are pretty frog lipped about it as I asked specifically and was told not to ask about Bryan anymore. … So, I would chalk it up to personal differences. [17:54] @kz6fittycent, Frogs have lips? [17:54] @kz6fittycent, Yeah I heard that, but Lunduke was on Las once last year I believe as a guest. So idk what they're like these days [17:54] Has anyone attempted to port (on their own) UBPorts or UTouch to their personal device? … IF so, was it recently? Meaning did you use Halium (if that's even possible yet) and did you follow a guide or are you freaking amazing and did it all on your own? [17:55] @PhoenixLandPirate, Yeah I saw that, too. I don't watch LAS anymore as I don't like the format and ChrisLAS bothers me... … I DO really like listening to Noah so my JB experience stops there. [17:55] Define 'on their own' [17:55] @Stereofont, By themselves I'd assume [17:55] @Stereofont, Superhuman intellect and didn't need no stinkin guide! [17:56] Oh. Negative then [17:57] I ask because I want to see the Nexus 5x running UBPorts (as I own one) and I'm almost ready to make the attempt on my own. Was wondering if anyone has seen a really good, COMPLETE guide to porting UTouch to a device. They all seem to lack this or that or are really old. [17:59] Well, we are trying to move to Halium, no device has a fully working port of Halium though, the closest we have is the n5 which boots but not close to ready. [17:59] It should be like a virus modifying DNA. Does all the hard work then you zap the virus. Job done [17:59] @Stereofont, True. [18:00] @PhoenixLandPirate, I remember someone talking about that on Lunduke's show. … I was curious as the progress there since the Plasma Mobile guys have it running on the N5x [18:01] @Stereofont, Wouldn't that be awesome?? [18:02] Referencing this: … https://plasma-mobile.org/nexus-5/ [18:03] @kz6fittycent, Unfortunately it could be used to install cancer, rather than eliminate it. A virus has no morality [18:03] @Stereofont, neither do many humans, it turns out... [18:03] @kz6fittycent, Certain orange persons especially [18:05] Better no mention of that guy though or the thread will get long and ugly [18:08] I also have an old tablet (cheap one I bought for one of my kids) that I am looking to attempt porting UbPorts to [18:09] @kz6fittycent, If devices would follow a standard then such a guide would exist. But currently the complete guide is: Find a Lineage that works for your device, build a tree with it. Fix all friggn compile issues until you get clean boot img and system img. Use rootstock to push all stuff to the device, then pray. In most cases days and days will pass until you even get adb to work, let alone graphics. Sorry, thats the guide [18:10] @Flohack, wow... [18:11] Made more complicated by the desire to use the newest device [18:12] yeah [18:12] sigh... [18:13] Fairphone is interesting because modular but not modular enough [18:17] it's modular mostly to be easer to be recicled, and repaired [18:18] not so much to be enhanced [18:18] Exactly. X with X. Not X with Y [18:34] @kz6fittycent, I tried with 2 devices, ofc I know maybe not the best ones. HTC One X (to show it would run on an old device) and Samsung S3. Both are work in progress, no gpu, no real usable thing. But both were booting actually [18:36] What would you recommend (chip second hand option) to replace bq4.5? Clicks are gone so something that will do new images? [18:37] *cheep [18:37] **cheap [18:39] Cheap, but firt hand one? [18:40] BQ Android models? [18:41] It's the same, for UBports [18:44] No, not BQ. Don't think UBports can be installed in other bq's than 4.5, 5 and tablet.. whatever the name was. From my understanding bq is a history now.. [18:45] BQ M10 (F)HD [18:45] BQ seem not aggressively opposed to modification. They even provide flash tools [18:46] BQ is very Free Software Friendly, that doesn't mean that chancing proprietary software that very likely doesn't belong to BQ [18:47] is legal, or safe [18:48] I mean only that it is a better starting point than phones made by hostile giant corporations? [18:49] @DiogoConstantino, If they would be so freindly why we do not get the kernel source trees we need to support 16.04 on all devices? [18:49] That's not a starting point at all [18:49] @Flohack have you tried to ask for it? [18:49] they do publish lot's of code [18:50] @DiogoConstantino, I will, but it is very hard to get hold of people that know smth. [18:50] ah [18:50] I didn't say they were the greatest since sliced bread. Better than most others though [18:51] I do know someone that might be able to help you stablishing that communication [18:51] UTouch on a Surface RT ^^ [18:51] @Ben, if it includes that touch keyboard, you can leave now [18:51] Tap Tiago Carrondo he had contact with people from BQ [18:51] he's not on the super-group [18:52] Then I would add EU funding for a privacy phone project [18:52] but he's on the group, or at least on the fairphone port group [18:53] I tried to engage them on twitter but the person that replied didn't understood at all what I said [18:53] I also did it for Meizu [18:53] no reply at all [18:56] It would be cool if everybody did the same [18:57] I have 2 BQ E4.5 Ubuntu Edition, one BQ E5 Ubuntu Edition, one BQ M10 FHD Ubuntu Edition and one Meizu Pro5 Ubuntu Edition, besides the Fairphone [18:57] so I would really like for them to help ubports [18:57] lot's of money invested on these devices [18:58] I'm asking for cheap, usable hardware as 400-600e for new one - which project is focused now - is a IMO to high starting price for too many ppl. Especially for installation on ROM in development. I know there's a reason for that but marketing UBports for second hand hardware would have much better success. [18:58] I have also 3 devices, but I cant find the BQ 10 FHD Tablet :( [18:59] PureOS better talk to UBports and Halium [18:59] @DiogoConstantino, Ok thx [18:59] @S_Greg, The Nexus 5 and oneplus one are very much secondhand devices [19:00] Aaron that would be cool [19:00] the more people working towards common goals the better even if they keep having their own thing [19:02] @S_Greg, 150-200 euros seems a comfortable place, old or new. Lower great if possible [19:03] @UniversalSuperBox, Thank you [19:03] @Stereofont, ..and thank you. [19:18] @Ben, hello show me the proofs [19:23] This was a suggestion ;) [19:23] @Ben, Why UTouch and not just ubuntu with yunit? :\ [19:25] Ubuntu for arm? [19:25] Yeah [19:29] Hmm, but isnt the Surface RT closed for other OS? Because some people are writing these. :/ [19:29] If it's fully updated under Windows RT, yes. Otherwise it's possible to unlock the EFI. [19:29] The Surface Pros are open for other OS, like Ubuntu [19:32] Hmm I will try it :) === cachio_afk is now known as cachio [20:23] @UniversalSuperBox Hi Dalton, Pls help, I was capable to install Ubports on BQ but Nexus 5 lock state is: locked, I use 16.04 [20:25] 16.04 on my notebook [20:26] fastboot oem unlock [20:26] Done [20:27] @ahoneybun, Didn't work on my BQ [20:28] He said Nexus 5 [20:28] Nexus devices are different then BQ crap [20:28] Yes but where can I do that [20:33] Do I need some app for unlocking? [20:34] You need to install platform-tools from Android SDK. There is a fastboot executable. [20:35] There are plenty of ways to to that. I believe it's even packaged in some distros repos. [20:35] @vanyasem, On PC [20:36] Yep, on your PC. All 3 platforms will do. [20:37] Ok [20:37] ```ANDROID_SDK_TOOLS="3859397" … cd ~/Downloads/ … wget --quiet --output-document=android-sdk.zip https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sdk-tools-linux-${ANDROID_SDK_TOOLS}.zip … unzip android-sdk.zip … rm android-sdk.zip … echo y | tools/bin/sdkmanager "platform-tools"``` [20:37] you can use this script on GNU/Linux. [20:37] it downloads Android SDK, unzips it in your user's downloads directory and installs platform-tools. [20:38]