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[03:20] <tgBot> <Eureka Algorithm> Hello, would someone be willing to helpe me set up clickable? … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/511/properly-installing-clickable
[04:07] <tgBot> MFota was added by: MFota
[04:42] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> @Eureka Algorithm, What distro are you using? For me the guide only worked on ubuntu
[04:49] <tgBot> <Eureka Algorithm> Andre I'm using KDE
[04:50] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> Do you mean the desktop environment or KDE neon?
[04:53] <tgBot> <Eureka Algorithm> KDE neon
 What exactly doesn't work for you?
[05:13] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> As it seems the setup was successful
[05:19] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> The commands should work. Have you tried building for example the calendar app?
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 For all those people who are too young to remember ;) https://opensource.com/article/17/8/linux-anniversary
 I am younger then linux!
 Haha
 When did you start @Flohack
 My first Linux was SuSE Linux 4.2 in 1996 ;)
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#/media/File:SuSE_Linux_4.2_Paket_Handbuch_und_CDs.jpg
 Nice!
 My first experience with Linux was in  2001 on our family computer :)
 I was around 6 years old
 cool
 My father showed me a lots of stuff on Linux and I was really excited about that :D
 My first contact with linux was sitting next to a friend seeing him doing incredible cool things in terminal in 1987. But it needs until 2007 for me to switch from win to Ubuntu...
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[09:24] <tgBot> skrech was added by: skrech
 welcome @skrech
 Welcome :)
 Hey guys!
 no way to set an alarm here... any idea? the BottomEdge doesn't work at all, never visible...
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/7qVZJWNU/file_291.jpg
 \o
 I am older than Linux (much older). I started using it in 2006 with Ubuntu Dapper Drake.
 @BrisPete, What was it like?  A world before Linux?
 Was it dark and without joy? I bet it was dark and without joy.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Lots of blue with white text
 @Lorxu, basically what i said
 Beautiful
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ys9EKbrj/file_292.mp4
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Accurate footage of the world before Linux
 @PhoenixLandPirate, that's pretty hi-res for 1992
 @neothethird, Surprising how much better government technology is, over the stuff us commoners use.
 yeah, let's grab some pitforks and torches
 @neothethird, Well, it is bright blue :P
 well... there was also green...
 http://www.coaching-tecnologico.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/monitor_fosforo_verde.jpg
 Can it run Crysis? ;D
 @neothethird, I agree!
[11:01] <tgBot> <Stefan Kalb> @neothethird, I was used to travel with WARP speed before big blue decided to withdraw it from users. But I had no fear to be able to further avoid the blue madness and my hopes became true with a chameleonized penguin in 1997.
 @Stefan Kalb, without the context, that sentence would sound really weird
[11:03] <tgBot> sandervoogt was added by: sandervoogt
 @LarreaMikel, great game!
 Welcome :)
 Thanks
 I tried searching "prehistoric", that I think is one of the first games I've played... but no luck.
 https://twitter.com/UBports/status/901860283697725440 lol, poor UBPorts
 I retweeted this with the phrase "A Free Software tragedy in two tweets" :P
 I can't see what it was a reply to cos I'm blocked :D
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/BiqLQtnu/file_294.jpg
 (Photo, 586x459) https://irc.ubports.com/QSAsFnE4/file_296.jpg
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Wow, even I haven't managed that and I bitched a lot about Electron on tweets :P
 why do they ignore our community?
 @garrogarri, There may have been some drama around one of his posts when Canonical still had Ubuntu Touch
 @Lorxu, I know I'm brilliant
 @garrogarri, Maybe they're just not aware of how much Ubuntu Touch does
 UBPorts I mean, of course, derp
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 @Dalton Durst — Finally fixed my BQ4.5. Reflashed system with use of magic-device-tool, no problems this time. I suspect damaged usb cable was the issue. Thanks all for greate work on ubports!
 Today i learned: `@Dalton` is a telegram channel called "Farham Fucker". The more you know.
 Haha, nice investigation Jan. 🙂
 Haha, right..
 @Lorxu, While both is somehow true, we want to brand the product "Ubuntu Touch", and we are the UBports organization :)
[14:00] <nfsprodriver[m]> Hello, in latest image in the channel settings there are no channels listed. Sorry, if this is already known.
 @neothethird, With 3 messages
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Well there was certainly lots of green text on a black background. Worked as a computer operator c. 1974 on an CL 1905E running the George 3 OS. Lots of cards, paper tape, huge hard drives line printers, plotters and crashes. A lot of heavy lifting - literally. Fun though.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwzJlvx4ndk
 I have a question (I don't know whether it's dumb or not), whereas the Plasma Mobile guys have gotten the Nexus 5x running their OS (I don't know how well...), what are the odds of UBPorts running on the N5x in the near future? … The Plasma mobile guys are using Halium, and I think I remember hearing that UBPorts was/is/going to use it, too. … Thanks in advance .
 P.S. I ask because, 1. I have a N5x and 2. The N5x is a modern phone and would go a long way in selling the project to a number of users...
 My Nexus 5 works really slow on UBports (it's in terrible condition by itself). On the other hand, my 5x is still great and I wouldn't mind using it. Plasma is a solid option for me on the 5x.
 @vanyasem, You're running Plasma on your 5x?
 Well, I don't use 5x by itself, I just have Plasma installed.
 I'm mainly on HTC 10 with LineageOS (no gapps)
 @vanyasem, I played with it for a few days thougj
 you can PM me for more info
 @vanyasem, and you feel pretty good about it?
 @vanyasem, OK, I'm at work at present, but I would like to continue learning more...
 and i'm a little drunk and eating my pizza.
 @mariogrip, I don't like google.. But i don't  like also this guy.. He is been teaching at university that mycrosoft is much more beautiful than gnu/linux..
 oh, i am literally watching this video rn
 i have a local nextcloud server on a 9-years old PC and it replaces the entire Gsuite
 music streaming, cloud, office, calendar, contacts, tasks, notes, even trello-like boards
 pm me if you have any questions to me
 @andreasimonetti, Lunduke is a "personality"... Not sure u can take him ever seriously. Who remember him from LAS should know what's the story.
 Lunduke's personality (IMO) is good for Linux and OSS in general. He talks about the elephant in the room(s) of several projects and does it in a way that's not all that offensive.  … Granted, he's NOT right about everything and I disagree with him a lot, but I have to admit that he's right on about a number of things. … That would include the UX of several projects that honestly SUCK.
 Yep, agree with you.
 ...just don't mention Richard Stalman around him :))
 Lunduke aside, I've LOST my Nexus 4!!!! I can't test the new updates from UBPorts!! Was up until 1am trying to find it (we just moved to a new house and everything's in boxes)
 @S_Greg, He's had Stallman on the Lunduke show already. Apparently, they've kissed and made up
 If it is in a box it isn't lost
 @Stereofont, but the box is lost....
 Google will know which box
 haha probably!
 @S_Greg, I watched old las's with him in it, but I don't know the story at all tbh
 @PhoenixLandPirate, There was a falling out between he and ChrisLAS. They've never spoken about it openly and they are pretty frog lipped about it as I asked specifically and was told not to ask about Bryan anymore.  … So, I would chalk it up to personal differences.
 @kz6fittycent, Frogs have lips?
 @kz6fittycent, Yeah I heard that, but Lunduke was on Las once last year I believe as a guest. So idk what they're like these days
 Has anyone attempted to port (on their own) UBPorts or UTouch to their personal device?  … IF so, was it recently? Meaning did you use Halium (if that's even possible yet) and did you follow a guide or are you freaking amazing and did it all on your own?
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Yeah I saw that, too. I don't watch LAS anymore as I don't like the format and ChrisLAS bothers me... … I DO really like listening to Noah so my JB experience stops there.
 Define 'on their own'
 @Stereofont, By themselves I'd assume
 @Stereofont, Superhuman intellect and didn't need no stinkin guide!
 Oh. Negative then
 I ask because I want to see the Nexus 5x running UBPorts (as I own one) and I'm almost ready to make the attempt on my own. Was wondering if anyone has seen a really good, COMPLETE guide to porting UTouch to a device. They all seem to lack this or that or are really old.
 Well, we are trying to move to Halium, no device has a fully working port of Halium though, the closest we have is the n5 which boots but not close to ready.
 It should be like a virus modifying DNA. Does all the hard work then you zap the virus. Job done
 @Stereofont, True.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, I remember someone talking about that on Lunduke's show.  … I was curious as the progress there since the Plasma Mobile guys have it running on the N5x
 @Stereofont, Wouldn't that be awesome??
 Referencing this: … https://plasma-mobile.org/nexus-5/
 @kz6fittycent, Unfortunately it could be used to install cancer, rather than eliminate it. A virus has no morality
 @Stereofont, neither do many humans, it turns out...
 @kz6fittycent, Certain orange persons especially
 Better no mention of that guy though or the thread will get long and ugly
 I also have an old tablet (cheap one I bought for one of my kids) that I am looking to attempt porting UbPorts to
 @kz6fittycent, If devices would follow a standard then such a guide would exist. But currently the complete guide is: Find a Lineage that works for your device, build a tree with it. Fix all friggn compile issues until you get clean boot img and system img. Use rootstock to push all stuff to the device, then pray. In most cases days and days will pass until you even get adb to work, let alone graphics. Sorry, thats the guide
 @Flohack, wow...
 Made more complicated by the desire to use the newest device
 yeah
 sigh...
 Fairphone is interesting because modular but not modular enough
 it's modular mostly to be easer to be recicled, and repaired
 not so much to be enhanced
 Exactly. X with X. Not X with Y
 @kz6fittycent, I tried with 2 devices, ofc I know maybe not the best ones. HTC One X (to show it would run on an old device) and Samsung S3. Both are work in progress, no gpu, no real usable thing. But both were booting actually
 What would you recommend (chip second hand option) to replace bq4.5? Clicks are gone so something that will do new images?
 *cheep
 **cheap
 Cheap, but firt hand one?
 BQ Android models?
 It's the same, for UBports
 No, not BQ. Don't think UBports can be installed in other bq's than 4.5, 5  and tablet.. whatever the name was. From my understanding bq is a history now..
 BQ M10 (F)HD
 BQ seem not aggressively opposed to modification. They even provide flash tools
 BQ is very Free Software Friendly, that doesn't mean that chancing proprietary software that very likely doesn't belong to BQ
 is legal, or safe
 I mean only that it is a better starting point than phones made by hostile giant corporations?
 @DiogoConstantino, If they would be so freindly why we do not get the kernel source trees we need to support 16.04 on all devices?
 That's not a starting point at all
 @Flohack have you tried to ask for it?
 they do publish lot's of code
 @DiogoConstantino, I will, but it is very hard to get hold of people that know smth.
 ah
 I didn't say they were the greatest since sliced bread. Better than most others though
 I do know someone that might be able to help you stablishing that communication
 UTouch on a Surface RT ^^
 @Ben, if it includes that touch keyboard, you can leave now
 Tap Tiago Carrondo he had contact with people from BQ
 he's not on the super-group
 Then I would add EU funding for a privacy phone project
 but he's on the group, or at least on the fairphone port group
 I tried to engage them on twitter but the person that replied didn't understood at all what I said
 I also did it for Meizu
 no reply at all
 It would be cool if everybody did the same
 I have 2 BQ E4.5 Ubuntu Edition, one BQ E5 Ubuntu Edition, one BQ M10 FHD Ubuntu Edition and one Meizu Pro5 Ubuntu Edition, besides the Fairphone
 so I would really like for them to help ubports
 lot's of money invested on these devices
 I'm asking for cheap, usable hardware as 400-600e for new one - which project is focused now - is a IMO to high starting price for too many ppl. Especially for installation on ROM in development. I know there's a reason for that but marketing UBports for second hand hardware would have much better success.
 I have also 3 devices, but I cant find the BQ 10 FHD Tablet :(
 PureOS better talk to UBports and Halium
 @DiogoConstantino, Ok thx
 @S_Greg, The Nexus 5 and oneplus one are very much secondhand devices
 Aaron that would be cool
 the more people working towards common goals the better even if they keep having their own thing
 @S_Greg, 150-200 euros seems a comfortable place, old or new. Lower great if possible
 @UniversalSuperBox, Thank you
 @Stereofont, ..and thank you.
 @Ben, hello show me the proofs
 This was a suggestion ;)
 @Ben, Why UTouch and not just ubuntu with yunit? :\
 Ubuntu for arm?
 Yeah
 Hmm, but isnt the Surface RT closed for other OS? Because some people are writing these. :/
 If it's fully updated under Windows RT, yes. Otherwise it's possible to unlock the EFI.
 The Surface Pros are open for other OS, like Ubuntu
 Hmm I will try it :)
[20:23] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @UniversalSuperBox Hi Dalton, Pls help, I was capable to install Ubports on BQ but Nexus 5 lock state is: locked, I use 16.04
[20:25] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> 16.04 on my notebook
 fastboot oem unlock
 Done
 @ahoneybun, Didn't work on my BQ
 He said Nexus 5
 Nexus devices are different then BQ crap
[20:28] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Yes but where can I do that
[20:33] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Do I need some app for unlocking?
 You need to install platform-tools from Android SDK. There is a fastboot executable.
 There are plenty of ways to to that. I believe it's even packaged in some distros repos.
 @vanyasem, On PC
 Yep, on your PC. All 3 platforms will do.
[20:37] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Ok
 ```ANDROID_SDK_TOOLS="3859397" … cd ~/Downloads/ … wget --quiet --output-document=android-sdk.zip https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sdk-tools-linux-${ANDROID_SDK_TOOLS}.zip … unzip android-sdk.zip … rm android-sdk.zip … echo y | tools/bin/sdkmanager "platform-tools"```
 you can use this script on GNU/Linux.
 it downloads Android SDK, unzips it in your user's downloads directory and installs platform-tools.
 I use this script on my CI build server.
 `fastboot` will be in `platform-tools/` folder. (You may need to chmod +x it before being able to run from the terminal)
[20:40] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Ok, I will try now step by step, give me some time, I am little slow
 take your time
[20:57] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Error Java_Home  is not setup ...
[20:58] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> It looks like I have to install something else
 Sure, you need to install openJDK 8
 I assume you already have it installed.
 What distro do you use?
[20:59] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Ubuntu 16.04
[21:00] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> I am very sorry
 @Milan Korecky, Perfect!
 My script is exactly for your distro.
 `sudo apt install -y wget tar unzip lib32stdc++6` … `sudo apt install -y openjdk-8-jdk libc6-dev-i386 lib32z1`
 run this to install all the deps
 (you can check out the full version here: https://gist.github.com/vanyasem/b4194b0db9c8fec75d78a3c9cd778412)
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 @vanyasem, I tested it on Ubuntu Server 16.04 and elementary OS (based on Ubuntu 16.04)
 can somebody tell me how to flash Plasma mobile on nexus 5, I follow the steps on web https://plasma-mobile.org/nexus-5/ but it's not workin for me :(
[21:38] <tgBot> Christoph B was added by: Christoph B
[21:40] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Hi, it could not find the lib32, but already installed, now again with ask
[21:40] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Sdk
 @Milan Korecky, You said you were on 16.04?
[21:44] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Yes, my laptop is 32 bit and I have ubuntu 16.04 lots
[21:44] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Lts
 I'm not sure for 32 bits though.
 I tested in only on 64 bit
 Library name may be different for x32
[21:46] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> I am following now some YouTube tutorial
 @Milan Korecky, you can use the tools in the repository. `sudo apt install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot`
[21:48] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Sdk almost installed, just a moment, right now downloading components
 @UniversalSuperBox, True
[21:48] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Ok Dalton I will try
 I just hate that method
[21:48] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Ok Ivan
 I prefer installing SDK manually
 @vanyasem, I'd like to sincerely disagree with that statement. Especially when we don't use the SDK other than installing.
 It gives you more control on what version you want to get installed
 I'm an Android developer.
[21:49] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Fine do not worry I have learned something new
 @vanyasem, So I need that much power.
 Even then, there are minimal packages for just the tools rather than the entire SDK. And we aren't android devs. ;)
 As I know what I'm doing.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I didn't say you are wrong )
 Also
 My script install only tools, not the entire SDK as well
 You have an ability to decide what to install
[21:54] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Fine, now finished, let us unlocke
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/c7ldJ4Ry/file_298.mp4
[21:58] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Ok unlock success with Aaron help
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zFtNhXQ5/file_299.webp
 @mariogrip will the new kernelversion for N5 be in next devel image?
 @nfsprodriver, do you mean the one i just pushed?
 Yes
 yes, it will land in the next devel build
 @mariogrip, Cool
 Nice, I'll report the changes.
[22:01] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> And now how to with the Fastboot, met does not find the device, cpt does not want to be installed
[22:01] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> MDT
 @Milan Korecky, what OS do you use? Linux? if so try running it with sudo
 In case you missed it, we are now only 2 issues away from OTA-2: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/milestone/2
 Woop woop!
 any chance you are going to switch your main repo location to self-hosted GitLab CE?
 and provide GitHub repos only as a mirror
 Why we would?
 to gain more control of what you do, GitHub is known to censor some repos they don't like
 Because then we sound like scientists.
 @vanyasem, really? never heard of that. What do they censor?
 @vanyasem, But it gives us endless protection of data and guards against downtime of our infra
 I use GitLab CE with GitLab CI with a runner, it pushes every commit back to GitHub, so more people can discorer the repo (Gogs is also an option, it's easier on the resources)
 but in case something happens — there is always a separate server with my own GitLab instance with all the users
 @neothethird, they banned a repo for using "retarted" in strings. And this is not the only occasion. They are doing lots of sketchy things. No freedom
 https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/07/25/1049226
 Hmm, never came across that... For now it gives us a very high-quality system with no administrative effort for free, so that's pretty nice. If we ever have problems with them, i guess we would switch. but for now we have (imho) enough to do as it is... thanks for the hint though
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 @Flohack, both GitHub and GitLab are down more often that my own server
 my server has a small amount of users compared to these giants
 I don't say instantly switch to self-hosted, it's just a suggestion to keep in mind for future scalability
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 also, GitHub is constantly being blocked (and unblocked again) in my country.
 check https://infogalactic.com/info/Censorship_of_GitHub#Russia for more info
 that's not their fault though
 sure, but still a valid thing to keep in mind for future changes
[22:17] <nfsprodriver[m]> Wow, new kernel is much faster! Great work!
 also, can I ask, why do we have two separate projects for 16.04 and 15.04 at the same time?
 I'm not sure which one to contribute to
 Because 15.04 is the one that Canonical was supporting at the end and it works, while 16.04 did not work
 And 16.04 still does not work
 I understand that, how this is going to be resolved? Should I contribute to 15.04 or 16.04? I'm a bit confused there
 If you understand the stack enough to debug it and solve its major issues in 16.04, go with that.
 It only officially runs on the Nexus 5
 Okay, I see what you got there.
 I have a N5 with UBports, so device support isn't a problem for me
 thank you
 usually 15.04 is the way to go, though
 that's what's usable
 Apps don't start on 16.04. Nor does the dash itself.
 I don't use UBports as my daily drives right now, so I don't care if it's usable or not
 I'm a developer and I'm willing to help
 @vanyasem, What are your skills ;)
 @vanyasem, awesome! knock yourself out: https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/How-to-install-Ubuntu-Touch-16.04
 I don't have much experience with UBports, but I'm a professional android dev (both Java/Kotlin and Android NDK, I used to develop some simple custom ROMs for GT 10.1 on a Russian forum) and I used to write in Vala in the past. I'm a quick learner and I have a lot of spare time. And I hate asking for help, I prefer figuring things out by breaking everything and starting from scratch till I get it done
 @neothethird, thank you!
 @vanyasem, Yes this will be hard, everything is already broekn... ^^
 @Flohack, lol
 UBports is the only GNU/Linux based OS for phones that doesn't make me vomit. So I'm with you or in severe pain
 I have all 3 Nexuses from LG and I regret trying Sailfish or Plasma. Not even close to barely acceptable imo
 @vanyasem, we're glad to have you :)
 @vanyasem, Since we don't have docs.ubports.com completely in place and docs.ubuntu.com is very outdated, figuring stuff out alone can be pretty difficult... So be encouraged to ask (or rather tell us where we need to document better)
 will do, thanks
 @vanyasem, So do you prefer more to work on low level or high level?
 I'm more a high-level dev, but low-level is more fun to me, it feels adventurous. I don't have much experience with it though, but I'm really looking into it
 Ok then we put you on Halium + 16.04 train ;)
 @vanyasem, Have you looked at postmarketos?
 I'm currently writing a post to telegraph about running your phone in freedom to my Russian telegram channel, gonna give you a strong shoutout
 @Lorxu, nope, but, I guess, will do now
 thx!
 @vanyasem, I regret that
 I already regret that
 (Photo, 350x467) https://irc.ubports.com/e6LhMKbv/file_301.jpg
 Cool you cant read anything
 Its very sevure ^^
 I absolutely love the red tint
 We should add that as a feature to UBports
 😂
 @vanyasem, They're still very alpha but they're true Linux (not sure about GNU part)
 Not as locked down as UT
 Also, that is just one UI you can use. They're working on KDE Plasma Mobile and Unity and so, you just pick one like on the desktop
 Chance for mainstream success because of that: 0
 Hacker street cred: a nice amount
 @vanyasem, (Never saw a screenshot this red before though)
 It's from a Russian website
 Russian weirdos are always doing something weird
[23:31] <tgBot> Veronica was added by: Veronica
 Welcome Veronica !
 Hi @UniversalSuperBox !
 @Lorxu, Mainstream success goes hand in hand with easy, comprehensive UIs that people do not need to learn. Plus with really really really well tested stuff that does never break. Linux per se is not in that category
 Also, a lot of people I've talked to can't even install a language pack for Andorid Telegram. It's as easy as 3 clicks. So the OS has to be preinstalled on at least some phones to get mass attention.
 But seriously, are we really making this for the mass consumer? I don't think so.