| gaurangt- | hi, I've a requirement where I need to get the specific network IP address in the charm for further processing. I know we can get unit IP address using private-address or public-address but what happens if the unit has more IP addresses dedicated for specific purposes (for example, separate network for storage, management, external access etc) | 05:41 |
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| thumper | wallyworld: ^^ you have dealt with this haven't you? | 06:03 |
| wallyworld | gaurangt-: the hook tool you want to use is network-get. that should give you a list of all the addresses on the machine hosting the unit. it also takes account of and space related endpoint bindings | 06:36 |
| wallyworld | unit-get is deprecated | 06:37 |
| wallyworld | it will just return the one "preferred" address. i'm not sure off hand how that address is determined | 06:37 |
| wpk | wallyworld: with unit-get the only thing guaranteed is that it will be the same address every time (unless network setup changes) | 06:48 |
| gaurangt- | wallyworld, thanks for the info. I think network-get is the way forward. | 06:50 |
| gaurangt- | wpk, but I guess we cannot control which ip unit-get picks up. It can be any one of the many that are available, right? | 06:51 |
| wpk | gaurangt-: exactly, that's why network-get is the way to go. | 06:52 |
| gaurangt- | wpk, yep, sounds good. Let me try that out. | 06:53 |
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| gaurangt- | wallyworld, looks like there is no python interface to call network-get | 12:49 |
| gaurangt- | is it something to be run from cmdline only? | 12:49 |
| wallyworld | gaurangt-: network-get is the name of the hook tool. it calls the NetworkInfo() api on the uniter facade | 12:51 |
| ryebot | Does deploying to a subnet work on AWS? | 13:35 |
| ryebot | Docs seem to indicate it might be MAAS-only, but I'm not 100% sure. | 13:36 |
| rick_h | ryebot: should for bootstrap constraints and such. | 13:55 |
| ryebot | rick_h: excellent, thanks | 13:56 |
| stormmore | o/ juju world | 15:42 |
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| ybaumy | anyone at work is into nutanix? | 18:07 |
| ybaumy | would be interessted in hearing what this is about and how good it is | 18:08 |
| ybaumy | ive seen some yt videos and they look very promising | 18:09 |
| rick_h | ybaumy: not checked it out | 18:36 |
| ybaumy | rick_h: have you used hyperconverged systems yet? if not take a look at nutanix. i downloaded the community edition today and will take a good look at the hypervisor and so on | 18:44 |
| rick_h | ybaumy: cool | 18:44 |
| ybaumy | rick_h: my boss got a presentation of it and is really hyped now. so i have to evaluate | 18:44 |
| ybaumy | the cool thing is that you have local storage on your nodes and not like ceph only network nodes and the compute is running somewhere else | 18:46 |
| ybaumy | anyways i think we get easily and appliance for testing. at least i hope so | 18:47 |
| rick_h | ybaumy: cool, let me know how it works out. | 18:48 |
| ybaumy | rick_h: sure thing i will report back. i was testing opesntack for several month now. and openstack clearly has its trade offs. so im looking forward to a new cloud solution | 18:49 |
| ybaumy | that https://www.simplivity.com/ would be another solution which is interessing. | 18:51 |
| ybaumy | but personally i dont like HP | 18:51 |
| ybaumy | but HP bought simplivity so its not their product. which is good if you take 3PAR storage for example which was also aquired | 18:53 |
| ybaumy | and 3PAR storage is really nice | 18:53 |
| ybaumy | with ssd approaching 50TB and ethernet 100Gbit who need fibre channel and traditional storage anymore | 19:07 |
| ybaumy | and storage is the problem in our company not compute power so the future looks bright i guess | 19:09 |
| ybaumy | we are operating so 2010ish currently | 19:10 |
| ybaumy | http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/supermicro-previews-1u-petabyte-nvme-storage-system-supporting-new-ruler-form-factor-for-intel-ssds-at-flash-memory-summit-300501628.html | 19:15 |
| ybaumy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcaID9XLHBU | 19:16 |
| ybaumy | that will kick ass for bigdata | 19:16 |
| thnkpad | rick_h ping | 19:29 |
| rick_h | thnkpad: pong | 19:29 |
| thnkpad | Hiya Rick - did you message marco 'bout that discourse webpage update to Xenial, or nay ? | 19:30 |
| thnkpad | I have had puri.sm talking about it - that's really why Iam asking. | 19:33 |
| rick_h | thnkpad: not gotten a hold of yet. Working on it. Apologies, was out for a week last week so behind the 8-ball. My fault | 19:35 |
| thnkpad | rick_h, wait a second - wasn't there talk of setting up a Launchpad group to cover it while Marco's away ? | 19:36 |
| rick_h | thnkpad: sec, otp | 19:38 |
| bdx | are x-model relations supported on 2.2.2? | 23:07 |
| rick_h | bdx: no, it's a 2.3 thing | 23:07 |
| bdx | ok, does x-controller come with that too? | 23:07 |
| rick_h | bdx: unsure, probably not. | 23:08 |
| bdx | ok | 23:08 |
| bdx | rick_h: thx | 23:08 |
| rick_h | bdx: it'll probably be feature flagged in 2.3 as kinds get worked out across providers | 23:08 |
| bdx | totally | 23:08 |
| thumper | well kinda | 23:08 |
| thumper | I think the intent is to not have a feature flag for 2.3 | 23:08 |
| thumper | for CMR | 23:08 |
| bdx | thumper: CMR will be included in the 2.3? | 23:09 |
| bdx | not behind any flags | 23:09 |
| thumper | that is my current understanding of intent | 23:09 |
| thumper | it won't be perfect | 23:09 |
| thumper | but should be usable | 23:09 |
| thumper | wallyworld: is that your understanding too? | 23:10 |
| * wallyworld reads | 23:10 | |
| * rick_h just wants to play safe in promises :) | 23:10 | |
| thumper | rick_h: sure | 23:11 |
| wallyworld | CMR is intended to be in 2.3 without a feature flag | 23:11 |
| wallyworld | working to get data model and APIs stable | 23:11 |
| wallyworld | includes cross controller. there may be some tooling missing and polish etc that will be done in a point release | 23:12 |
| bdx | oh man | 23:12 |
| bdx | :) :) :) | 23:12 |
| wallyworld | cross controller is usable now if you run the edge snap | 23:12 |
| bdx | Ooooooo | 23:13 |
| wallyworld | there's networking aspects that will require some charm changes | 23:13 |
| bdx | ok, thats great news none the less | 23:14 |
| bdx | going to take it for a spin | 23:14 |
| wallyworld | so not all charms are guaranteed to work out of the box, but most should if they have been written crrectly | 23:14 |
| bdx | I have the perfect use case for x-controller | 23:14 |
| wallyworld | try it out and let us know of any issues | 23:14 |
| bdx | I have fiber to us-west-2 from my datacenter | 23:14 |
| wallyworld | what charms were you looking to use? | 23:15 |
| bdx | and no xfer charge to and fro | 23:15 |
| bdx | wallyworld: my own | 23:15 |
| bdx | alongside postgresql, redis, elasticsearch | 23:15 |
| bdx | I wanted to also look at getting a beats/logstash stack going | 23:16 |
| wallyworld | ok. make sure that you use either network-get or pick "ingress-address" from relation-get data to figure out the address to connect to on the otjer side of the x-model relation | 23:16 |
| wallyworld | if you use unit-get it won't work | 23:16 |
| wallyworld | and many older charms still use unit-get | 23:16 |
| bdx | ok, that good to know | 23:17 |
| bdx | lol | 23:17 |
| wallyworld | but just ask if you try it and get stuck | 23:17 |
| bdx | I'll start looking around to see where I'm using that | 23:17 |
| bdx | will do | 23:17 |
| bdx | wallyworld, rick_h, thumper: thx | 23:18 |
| wallyworld | np, good luck with it | 23:18 |
| bdx | wallyworld: are there any prelim docs on creating and consuming offers? | 23:20 |
| wallyworld | bdx: there's been some blog posts, but doc is a little sparse right now as it's all wip. let me dig something up | 23:22 |
| bdx | ok, thx | 23:22 |
| wallyworld | bdx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25428383/ | 23:28 |
| wallyworld | there may be some typos, i just splatted it out | 23:29 |
| wallyworld | bdx: also, http://mitechie.com/blog/2017/7/7/call-for-testing-shared-services-with-juju | 23:30 |
| bdx | that is great | 23:31 |
| bdx | rick_h: nice blog post! | 23:31 |
| rick_h | bdx: :) | 23:32 |
| bdx | super exciting stuff | 23:32 |
| bdx | wallyworld: many thanks | 23:33 |
| wallyworld | my pleasure | 23:34 |
| wallyworld | it's a wip | 23:34 |
| wallyworld | so nit fully cooked | 23:34 |
| rick_h | the man's put in some major work there so <3 | 23:34 |
| wallyworld | rick_h: the latest is I have a PR where you can suspend/resume individual x-model relations | 23:35 |
| wallyworld | suspend = run departed/broken hooks etc. resume = run joined/changed hooks | 23:35 |
| wallyworld | useful if someone needs to be locked out temporarily | 23:36 |
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