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valoriedinner here....00:08
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> valorie00:09
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Photo, 1250x703) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/EatVhBxU/file_3114.jpg00:09
ahoneybunI've already looked at the new bootswatch, what we use for themeing the manual00:10
ahoneybunthis is a different theme on the current bootswatch00:10
clivejoahoneybun: should I post this? http://kubuntu.org/?p=3353&preview=true00:12
ahoneybunlooks really good to me00:12
clivejovalorie isn't sure we should post it?00:12
clivejoas its an internal thing?00:13
ahoneybunbut the voting is public00:13
ahoneybunas is the mailing list00:13
ahoneybunnothing is internal here00:13
clivejoI dunno, I have to go to bed00:14
clivejoif you can decide as KC and either delete or publish00:15
ahoneybunI mean I would push it00:15
valoriego for it then01:22
valorieI wasn't against it, I just don't think we've done it before01:22
valorieahoneybun: also there is a revived effort on the KDE wikis to update all the content01:41
valorieseems to have gotten a slow start since akademy, but claus_chr is running it01:41
valoriein #kde-wiki01:41
ahoneybunI'm wondering about the stuff in khelpcenter01:42
ahoneybuntalking about plasma and such01:42
valoriemy advice: write to the list and ask about helping out with those specifically01:43
valoriethe active people do not ever get into irc01:44
valorieno problems with the latest upgrade I can see01:56
valoriewas a bit worried about the nvidia driver issues, but so far all good01:56
yofelahoneybun: I'm no expert on auto-deployments, so I was hoping that you would find someone more knowledgeable than me. I could hack up something that works I guess... when it comes to weegie feel free to ask09:03
yofelvalorie: haha, no worries, the business is what made me pop up as well ^^09:04
yofelvalorie, clivejo: I had 2 very nice weeks in Croatia this year that I enjoyed very much ;)09:07
tsimonq2That sounds cool :D09:08
tsimonq2o/ yofel :)09:08
yofelafter that I took another 3 weeks off IRC as I noticed that some 90% of my IRC time fell on my work hours, which I need to work out somehow.... (as is happening right now as a matter of fact...)09:08
clivejoit does take up a lot of time09:09
yofelso not sure how much I'll be around here, worst case I am reading all the mails I get09:09
clivejoeven just to track what is going on09:10
yofelright09:10
ahoneybunyofel: could you make the dir's for 1710 docs or give me access again?11:53
yofelahoneybun: where exactly are you stuck getting to that dir?11:55
ahoneybunI don't have access to make it in /home/kubuntu/docs/11:56
yofeljudging from the config files you have access... did you forget your password...?11:56
ahoneybunI can login from my ahoneybun user name11:57
ahoneybunbut not sure the permissions I have tbh11:57
yofelokay, sudo works?11:57
ahoneybunyea I have no idea how you made those dirs11:57
ahoneybunlrwxrwxrwx  1 kubuntu kubuntu   30 Jun  9 14:30 en_1604 -> kubuntu-manual-1604/build/html11:57
yofelokay, first off, login as kubuntu -> sudo -u kubuntu -i11:58
ahoneybunok11:58
yofeland the dirs are just git clones of the github repo, locked to the respective branch11:59
ahoneybunso git clone and change the dir name to match the branch?11:59
ahoneybunit clone https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual.git kubuntu-manual-1710 ?12:00
ahoneybun*git12:00
yofelyes12:00
yofelah, you have tags in there now, sweet12:00
ahoneybunhow do I handle those en_1710 dir?12:00
ahoneybunyep for travis releases12:01
yofelokay, then trash that README, that was just for the tagging12:01
ahoneybunhttps://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/releases12:01
yofelhow are you handling the building now?12:02
ahoneybunI know we could use sftp or something to send the html files no?12:02
ahoneybunhttps://travis-ci.org/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/branches12:02
ahoneybun^12:02
yofelok, you're not keeping the build result in git anymore. That is good, but needs a new setup then12:03
ahoneybunwell not always12:03
ahoneybunhttps://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/.travis.yml12:03
ahoneybunI could add a step in the yml before_deploy and use sftp or something I believe12:03
yofelin the past you did, and that's how 16.04 and 17.04 rely on right now as sphinx on weegie is a lot older than what you're using12:03
ahoneybunright12:04
ahoneybunonce I know how to use sftp for this with proper ssh maybe it should just be trial and error on how to write it in the yml file12:05
yofelah, you can write a deployment script for travis, interesting12:05
ahoneybunthat's how the files on github for releases are getting there12:06
ahoneybunhttps://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/releases12:06
ahoneybunusing before_deploy to rename them before upload12:07
yofelokay, then you could indeed use that to copy things over, put them into a temp dir, then just switch out the files once everything got copied12:11
ahoneybunwell I could use sftp or something to copy over build/html/* /home/kubuntu/en_171012:12
ahoneybuneach release/tag has it's own yml to each version12:12
yofelif you're fine with things being inconsistent while it's copying... sure12:12
ahoneybuninconsistent?12:12
ahoneybundamn have to go in a few mins12:12
yofelwell, while you're copying you'll have a mix of new and old files in there. Can yield funny results if someone opens the page during that time. But if the whole copy takes only a couple seconds nobody will care12:13
ahoneybunneed to look into this more anyway12:13
ahoneybunbbl thanks yofel12:14
yofelanother thing: the path mapping is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docs.kubuntu.org.conf12:14
yofelonce you have it set up12:14
yofelahoneybun: yw12:14
yofelahoneybun: another thing: If travis has ssh(sftp) access to weegie, please either a) create a dedicated ssh key and lock that down to a single command if you're just going with rsync/sftp or b) if you need more than one command then a dedicated user on weegie would be appropriate12:17
acheronukyofel: I'm unsure if this issue is our KCI iso build's fault, or systemd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/171321212:39
acheronukand I'm running out of sensible comments on that bug, as I'm not sure what is going on :(12:40
yofelthat sounds vaguely familiar..12:48
yofelok no, I remember issues with live build's handling of the resolv.conf. But this is debootstrap12:51
yofelOTOH, we are taling about resolv.conf here, which is a rather messy thing in this environment12:52
yofelacheronuk: note that the containers don't run in privileged mode, only with securityOpts: 'apparmor:unconfined' and capAdd: SYS_ADMIN. So maybe systemd needs another capability for this13:09
yofelI just did a quick test with --privileged on kci and that seems to work, so technically it's not systemd's fault I think13:10
yofelbut I agree with xnox that it's strange that resolvconf worked and systemd doesn't13:11
acheronukI think I need to do a crash course in containerisation, as only about 50% of that makes sense to me!13:12
yofelhttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci-admins/kubuntu-ci/+git/pangea-tooling/tree/kci/imager.rb has the container setup for this13:13
yofelhttps://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/run/#runtime-privilege-and-linux-capabilities13:14
yofelwell duh, if I start a container with docker run --cap-add SYS_ADMIN --privileged=false --security-opt 'apparmor:unconfined' -ti pangea/ubuntu:artful bash13:24
yofelit works fine13:24
yofeloh hm linode13:25
yofelI: Base system installed successfully.13:28
yofelthis is not helpful.............13:28
yofelwell back to work13:53
clivejowho is rhkramer@gmail.com ?16:15
clivejoOn Monday, August 28, 2017 07:20:31 PM Clive Johnston wrote:16:16
clivejo> Unfortunately, we overlooked that three (3) of our Kubuntu Council members16:16
clivejo> are expiring shortly! It was only brought to our attention today (big heart16:16
clivejo> felt apologies for that!).16:16
clivejoSorry, sometimes I just can't help myself (and behave like a real ass), but16:16
clivejoI'm very sorry for your loss.  I guess I should ask whether their next of kin16:16
clivejowould like something like flowers or prefer donations to the deceased's16:16
clivejofavorite charities ;-)16:16
* clivejo giggles16:16
clivejosomeone with a sense of humour16:16
ahoneybunyofel: travis does not atm, I know you can make ssh keys on it with the yml I believe18:38
clivejo[20:37:31] <slangasek> at some point, the answer to a flavor coming in two days before a beta saying "we're participating in the milestone" needs to be "no, you aren't"...19:40
* clivejo wonders who that is directed at19:41
acheronukXubuntu I think20:11
clivejoeakk20:13
clivejothought it might been directed at us20:14
acheronuk[00:58] <flexiondotorg> slangasek I've just heard that Xubuntu would like to participate in 17.10 Beta 1 as well.20:15
acheronuk[00:58] <valorie> yay!20:15
acheronuk[01:16] <slangasek> how do I persuade flavors to not do optional milestones, instead ;)20:15
valorieslangasek was grumbling about having 2 alphas when there used to only be one20:18
valorieit is a pain, but more testing seems good?20:18
clivejoI would be of that opinion as well21:57
valorieok, added next year (and all years from here to eternity) to the Kubuntu calendar, as promised22:10
valorieum, of the KC elections22:11
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Nice valorie22:26
valoriewell, it's not cool I forgot to do that when creating it22:35
valorieor that the rest of us forgot too, lol22:35
valorieoh well, it's fixed now22:35
* clivejo shakes head22:40
clivejocan't believe you forgot22:40
valorie:P~~~~~~22:42
valorieand clive fixed it!22:42
clivejoI couldnt remember a date if you paid me22:49
clivejoI am always forgetting birthdays and anniversaries22:49
valoriegcalendar does it for me22:49
valoriemy daughter remembers ALL the dates22:49
valorieit's terrible22:49
valorieI'm like, wasn't that like 5 years ago?22:49
valorieand she says, Jan 31 199522:50
valorie...... like I said, 5 years ago, give or take 10 years....22:50
valorieacheronuk: can i nominate you to be on the KC?22:58
valorieyofel: you want back in?22:59
valorieoops, you're already there, gosh22:59
acheronukvalorie: if you like. I was waiting to see if existing people wanted to stay23:00
valorieit's always good to have too many!23:03
valorieclive can't as he's running the election23:04
valorieclever boy.....23:04
acheronuksneaky!23:06
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> (Voice, 2s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aZld8c3M/file_3137.oga23:06
tsimonq2valorie: I'm nominating myself :P23:07
ahoneybuntsimonq2: where's the email?23:07
valorieclivejo: lol23:09
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> It was your cunning plan!23:11
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Didn't see anyone else tripping over themselves to volunteer!23:12
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> https://lists.launchpad.net/kubuntu-council/msg00216.html23:12
tsimonq2ahoneybun: ^^^^^^23:12
tsimonq2Now people have a reason to want to be on the KC, to stop me from being on it! :P23:13
valorieplease send that to -devel and -users as well, tsimonq223:13
tsimonq2lolololol23:13
tsimonq2valorie: done23:13
tsimonq2Except23:13
tsimonq2grrrrr23:13
tsimonq2I don't wanna subscribe to kubuntu-users23:13
valoriethat's fine23:13
valorieI'll allow it in23:13
tsimonq2Ok23:13
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Darn those pesty kids23:18
valorietsimonq2: sent yet?23:23
tsimonq2valorie: Yes? Maybe it got auto-rejected23:23
tsimonq2valorie: Maybe just forward to kubuntu-users?23:23
acheronukhave I got to do anything?23:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: Wanna be on the KC? LD23:24
valorierunning listadmin23:24
tsimonq2s/LD/:D/23:24
* acheronuk shrugs23:24
valoriewould be good to have a full slate23:25
valoriebut IMO we should have people who want the job, and intend to do some stuff23:25
valorieI won't nominate acheronuk if he doesn't want the job23:26
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> He does want the job23:27
valorieah23:27
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Tell her Rik!23:27
acheronukOk. I'll meave you with Simon....23:27
acheronuk*leave23:27
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I want it now!23:27
tsimonq2XD23:27
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Nooooo23:27
valorielol23:27
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Please Rik!23:28
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I'm begging23:28
acheronukseriously though, yes I would23:28
valorieum, leave us with Simon, or you'd like to be on the KC?23:29
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Be nice to have a number of candidates23:29
valorietsimonq2: nothing waiting for -users23:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I am a number 😏23:29
valorieI'll forward it23:29
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Have a good Democratic vote23:29
tsimonq2valorie: ok23:29
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Nah I'm only joking23:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> lol23:30
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I'm impartial ;)23:30
acheronukYes, I would like to do it.23:31
valoriecool23:31
acheronukas said though, I was waiting to see what Ovi and Claydoh wanted23:31
valorieclaydoh wrote me privately to say that he's moving to Australia to get married, and won't be nominating himself23:32
acheronukbut if more are standing, that is somewhat irrelevant now23:32
valorieI asked that he tell the list that23:32
acheronukah. ok23:32
valoriebut haven't seen it so far23:32
valorieI'm guessing that ovi is not going to run either23:32
clivejodoes he know?23:32
tsimonq2valorie: responded23:32
valorieunless things change for him with his work23:32
clivejohe was on a road trip last I heard23:33
acheronukI'm too tried to start emailing tonight. will do so tomorow23:35
valorieahoneybun: you gonna start making snaps and flatpaks?23:50
valorieI once thought of learning how, but nope23:50
valoriemy top three or four jobs take all my time23:50

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