[00:08] <valorie> dinner here....
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[00:10] <ahoneybun> I've already looked at the new bootswatch, what we use for themeing the manual
[00:10] <ahoneybun> this is a different theme on the current bootswatch
[00:12] <clivejo> ahoneybun: should I post this? http://kubuntu.org/?p=3353&preview=true
[00:12] <ahoneybun> looks really good to me
[00:12] <clivejo> valorie isn't sure we should post it?
[00:13] <clivejo> as its an internal thing?
[00:13] <ahoneybun> but the voting is public
[00:13] <ahoneybun> as is the mailing list
[00:13] <ahoneybun> nothing is internal here
[00:14] <clivejo> I dunno, I have to go to bed
[00:15] <clivejo> if you can decide as KC and either delete or publish
[00:15] <ahoneybun> I mean I would push it
[01:22] <valorie> go for it then
[01:22] <valorie> I wasn't against it, I just don't think we've done it before
[01:41] <valorie> ahoneybun: also there is a revived effort on the KDE wikis to update all the content
[01:41] <valorie> seems to have gotten a slow start since akademy, but claus_chr is running it
[01:41] <valorie> in #kde-wiki
[01:42] <ahoneybun> I'm wondering about the stuff in khelpcenter
[01:42] <ahoneybun> talking about plasma and such
[01:43] <valorie> my advice: write to the list and ask about helping out with those specifically
[01:44] <valorie> the active people do not ever get into irc
[01:56] <valorie> no problems with the latest upgrade I can see
[01:56] <valorie> was a bit worried about the nvidia driver issues, but so far all good
[09:03] <yofel> ahoneybun: I'm no expert on auto-deployments, so I was hoping that you would find someone more knowledgeable than me. I could hack up something that works I guess... when it comes to weegie feel free to ask
[09:04] <yofel> valorie: haha, no worries, the business is what made me pop up as well ^^
[09:07] <yofel> valorie, clivejo: I had 2 very nice weeks in Croatia this year that I enjoyed very much ;)
[09:08] <tsimonq2> That sounds cool :D
[09:08] <tsimonq2> o/ yofel :)
[09:08] <yofel> after that I took another 3 weeks off IRC as I noticed that some 90% of my IRC time fell on my work hours, which I need to work out somehow.... (as is happening right now as a matter of fact...)
[09:09] <clivejo> it does take up a lot of time
[09:09] <yofel> so not sure how much I'll be around here, worst case I am reading all the mails I get
[09:10] <clivejo> even just to track what is going on
[09:10] <yofel> right
[11:53] <ahoneybun> yofel: could you make the dir's for 1710 docs or give me access again?
[11:55] <yofel> ahoneybun: where exactly are you stuck getting to that dir?
[11:56] <ahoneybun> I don't have access to make it in /home/kubuntu/docs/
[11:56] <yofel> judging from the config files you have access... did you forget your password...?
[11:57] <ahoneybun> I can login from my ahoneybun user name
[11:57] <ahoneybun> but not sure the permissions I have tbh
[11:57] <yofel> okay, sudo works?
[11:57] <ahoneybun> yea I have no idea how you made those dirs
[11:57] <ahoneybun> lrwxrwxrwx  1 kubuntu kubuntu   30 Jun  9 14:30 en_1604 -> kubuntu-manual-1604/build/html
[11:58] <yofel> okay, first off, login as kubuntu -> sudo -u kubuntu -i
[11:58] <ahoneybun> ok
[11:59] <yofel> and the dirs are just git clones of the github repo, locked to the respective branch
[11:59] <ahoneybun> so git clone and change the dir name to match the branch?
[12:00] <ahoneybun> it clone https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual.git kubuntu-manual-1710 ?
[12:00] <ahoneybun> *git
[12:00] <yofel> yes
[12:00] <yofel> ah, you have tags in there now, sweet
[12:00] <ahoneybun> how do I handle those en_1710 dir?
[12:01] <ahoneybun> yep for travis releases
[12:01] <yofel> okay, then trash that README, that was just for the tagging
[12:01] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/releases
[12:02] <yofel> how are you handling the building now?
[12:02] <ahoneybun> I know we could use sftp or something to send the html files no?
[12:02] <ahoneybun> https://travis-ci.org/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/branches
[12:02] <ahoneybun> ^
[12:03] <yofel> ok, you're not keeping the build result in git anymore. That is good, but needs a new setup then
[12:03] <ahoneybun> well not always
[12:03] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/.travis.yml
[12:03] <ahoneybun> I could add a step in the yml before_deploy and use sftp or something I believe
[12:03] <yofel> in the past you did, and that's how 16.04 and 17.04 rely on right now as sphinx on weegie is a lot older than what you're using
[12:04] <ahoneybun> right
[12:05] <ahoneybun> once I know how to use sftp for this with proper ssh maybe it should just be trial and error on how to write it in the yml file
[12:05] <yofel> ah, you can write a deployment script for travis, interesting
[12:06] <ahoneybun> that's how the files on github for releases are getting there
[12:06] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/releases
[12:07] <ahoneybun> using before_deploy to rename them before upload
[12:11] <yofel> okay, then you could indeed use that to copy things over, put them into a temp dir, then just switch out the files once everything got copied
[12:12] <ahoneybun> well I could use sftp or something to copy over build/html/* /home/kubuntu/en_1710
[12:12] <ahoneybun> each release/tag has it's own yml to each version
[12:12] <yofel> if you're fine with things being inconsistent while it's copying... sure
[12:12] <ahoneybun> inconsistent?
[12:12] <ahoneybun> damn have to go in a few mins
[12:13] <yofel> well, while you're copying you'll have a mix of new and old files in there. Can yield funny results if someone opens the page during that time. But if the whole copy takes only a couple seconds nobody will care
[12:13] <ahoneybun> need to look into this more anyway
[12:14] <ahoneybun> bbl thanks yofel
[12:14] <yofel> another thing: the path mapping is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docs.kubuntu.org.conf
[12:14] <yofel> once you have it set up
[12:14] <yofel> ahoneybun: yw
[12:17] <yofel> ahoneybun: another thing: If travis has ssh(sftp) access to weegie, please either a) create a dedicated ssh key and lock that down to a single command if you're just going with rsync/sftp or b) if you need more than one command then a dedicated user on weegie would be appropriate
[12:39] <acheronuk> yofel: I'm unsure if this issue is our KCI iso build's fault, or systemd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1713212
[12:40] <acheronuk> and I'm running out of sensible comments on that bug, as I'm not sure what is going on :(
[12:48] <yofel> that sounds vaguely familiar..
[12:51] <yofel> ok no, I remember issues with live build's handling of the resolv.conf. But this is debootstrap
[12:52] <yofel> OTOH, we are taling about resolv.conf here, which is a rather messy thing in this environment
[13:09] <yofel> acheronuk: note that the containers don't run in privileged mode, only with securityOpts: 'apparmor:unconfined' and capAdd: SYS_ADMIN. So maybe systemd needs another capability for this
[13:10] <yofel> I just did a quick test with --privileged on kci and that seems to work, so technically it's not systemd's fault I think
[13:11] <yofel> but I agree with xnox that it's strange that resolvconf worked and systemd doesn't
[13:12] <acheronuk> I think I need to do a crash course in containerisation, as only about 50% of that makes sense to me!
[13:13] <yofel> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci-admins/kubuntu-ci/+git/pangea-tooling/tree/kci/imager.rb has the container setup for this
[13:14] <yofel> https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/run/#runtime-privilege-and-linux-capabilities
[13:24] <yofel> well duh, if I start a container with docker run --cap-add SYS_ADMIN --privileged=false --security-opt 'apparmor:unconfined' -ti pangea/ubuntu:artful bash
[13:24] <yofel> it works fine
[13:25] <yofel> oh hm linode
[13:28] <yofel> I: Base system installed successfully.
[13:28] <yofel> this is not helpful.............
[13:53] <yofel> well back to work
[16:15] <clivejo> who is rhkramer@gmail.com ?
[16:16] <clivejo> On Monday, August 28, 2017 07:20:31 PM Clive Johnston wrote:
[16:16] <clivejo> > Unfortunately, we overlooked that three (3) of our Kubuntu Council members
[16:16] <clivejo> > are expiring shortly! It was only brought to our attention today (big heart
[16:16] <clivejo> > felt apologies for that!).
[16:16] <clivejo> Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself (and behave like a real ass), but
[16:16] <clivejo> I'm very sorry for your loss.  I guess I should ask whether their next of kin
[16:16] <clivejo> would like something like flowers or prefer donations to the deceased's
[16:16] <clivejo> favorite charities ;-)
[16:16]  * clivejo giggles
[16:16] <clivejo> someone with a sense of humour
[18:38] <ahoneybun> yofel: travis does not atm, I know you can make ssh keys on it with the yml I believe
[19:40] <clivejo> [20:37:31] <slangasek> at some point, the answer to a flavor coming in two days before a beta saying "we're participating in the milestone" needs to be "no, you aren't"...
[19:41]  * clivejo wonders who that is directed at
[20:11] <acheronuk> Xubuntu I think
[20:13] <clivejo> eakk
[20:14] <clivejo> thought it might been directed at us
[20:15] <acheronuk> [00:58] <flexiondotorg> slangasek I've just heard that Xubuntu would like to participate in 17.10 Beta 1 as well.
[20:15] <acheronuk> [00:58] <valorie> yay!
[20:15] <acheronuk> [01:16] <slangasek> how do I persuade flavors to not do optional milestones, instead ;)
[20:18] <valorie> slangasek was grumbling about having 2 alphas when there used to only be one
[20:18] <valorie> it is a pain, but more testing seems good?
[21:57] <clivejo> I would be of that opinion as well
[22:10] <valorie> ok, added next year (and all years from here to eternity) to the Kubuntu calendar, as promised
[22:11] <valorie> um, of the KC elections
 Nice valorie
[22:35] <valorie> well, it's not cool I forgot to do that when creating it
[22:35] <valorie> or that the rest of us forgot too, lol
[22:35] <valorie> oh well, it's fixed now
[22:40]  * clivejo shakes head
[22:40] <clivejo> can't believe you forgot
[22:42] <valorie> :P~~~~~~
[22:42] <valorie> and clive fixed it!
[22:49] <clivejo> I couldnt remember a date if you paid me
[22:49] <clivejo> I am always forgetting birthdays and anniversaries
[22:49] <valorie> gcalendar does it for me
[22:49] <valorie> my daughter remembers ALL the dates
[22:49] <valorie> it's terrible
[22:49] <valorie> I'm like, wasn't that like 5 years ago?
[22:50] <valorie> and she says, Jan 31 1995
[22:50] <valorie> ...... like I said, 5 years ago, give or take 10 years....
[22:58] <valorie> acheronuk: can i nominate you to be on the KC?
[22:59] <valorie> yofel: you want back in?
[22:59] <valorie> oops, you're already there, gosh
[23:00] <acheronuk> valorie: if you like. I was waiting to see if existing people wanted to stay
[23:03] <valorie> it's always good to have too many!
[23:04] <valorie> clive can't as he's running the election
[23:04] <valorie> clever boy.....
[23:06] <acheronuk> sneaky!
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[23:07] <tsimonq2> valorie: I'm nominating myself :P
[23:07] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: where's the email?
[23:09] <valorie> clivejo: lol
 It was your cunning plan!
 Didn't see anyone else tripping over themselves to volunteer!
 https://lists.launchpad.net/kubuntu-council/msg00216.html
[23:12] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: ^^^^^^
[23:13] <tsimonq2> Now people have a reason to want to be on the KC, to stop me from being on it! :P
[23:13] <valorie> please send that to -devel and -users as well, tsimonq2
[23:13] <tsimonq2> lolololol
[23:13] <tsimonq2> valorie: done
[23:13] <tsimonq2> Except
[23:13] <tsimonq2> grrrrr
[23:13] <tsimonq2> I don't wanna subscribe to kubuntu-users
[23:13] <valorie> that's fine
[23:13] <valorie> I'll allow it in
[23:13] <tsimonq2> Ok
 Darn those pesty kids
[23:23] <valorie> tsimonq2: sent yet?
[23:23] <tsimonq2> valorie: Yes? Maybe it got auto-rejected
[23:23] <tsimonq2> valorie: Maybe just forward to kubuntu-users?
[23:23] <acheronuk> have I got to do anything?
[23:24] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Wanna be on the KC? LD
[23:24] <valorie> running listadmin
[23:24] <tsimonq2> s/LD/:D/
[23:24]  * acheronuk shrugs
[23:25] <valorie> would be good to have a full slate
[23:25] <valorie> but IMO we should have people who want the job, and intend to do some stuff
[23:26] <valorie> I won't nominate acheronuk if he doesn't want the job
 He does want the job
[23:27] <valorie> ah
 Tell her Rik!
[23:27] <acheronuk> Ok. I'll meave you with Simon....
[23:27] <acheronuk> *leave
 I want it now!
[23:27] <tsimonq2> XD
 Nooooo
[23:27] <valorie> lol
 Please Rik!
 I'm begging
[23:28] <acheronuk> seriously though, yes I would
[23:29] <valorie> um, leave us with Simon, or you'd like to be on the KC?
 Be nice to have a number of candidates
[23:29] <valorie> tsimonq2: nothing waiting for -users
 I am a number 😏
[23:29] <valorie> I'll forward it
 Have a good Democratic vote
[23:29] <tsimonq2> valorie: ok
 Nah I'm only joking
 lol
 I'm impartial ;)
[23:31] <acheronuk> Yes, I would like to do it.
[23:31] <valorie> cool
[23:31] <acheronuk> as said though, I was waiting to see what Ovi and Claydoh wanted
[23:32] <valorie> claydoh wrote me privately to say that he's moving to Australia to get married, and won't be nominating himself
[23:32] <acheronuk> but if more are standing, that is somewhat irrelevant now
[23:32] <valorie> I asked that he tell the list that
[23:32] <acheronuk> ah. ok
[23:32] <valorie> but haven't seen it so far
[23:32] <valorie> I'm guessing that ovi is not going to run either
[23:32] <clivejo> does he know?
[23:32] <tsimonq2> valorie: responded
[23:32] <valorie> unless things change for him with his work
[23:33] <clivejo> he was on a road trip last I heard
[23:35] <acheronuk> I'm too tried to start emailing tonight. will do so tomorow
[23:50] <valorie> ahoneybun: you gonna start making snaps and flatpaks?
[23:50] <valorie> I once thought of learning how, but nope
[23:50] <valorie> my top three or four jobs take all my time