 Not for the moment but see how our privacy is massacred, it could change faster than you think
 @vanyasem, That's not really the plan at the moment. We don't have the developers or momentum to be the mobile OS "For everyone," but we can be the best mobile OS "For Us."
 yes !
 Given enough time / money, could that change? Yeah.
 @vanyasem, Just a reminder here: Ubuntu Touch id the first attempt to bring linux to mobile devices. I personally would be surprised if it succeed in the long term. I consider UT and similar efforts (plasma mobile, sailfishos, etc) to be just pioneer projects which can help by setting some common ground for future projects. It is more or less a similar situation with the "linux on desktop PCs" 15-20 years ago ;)
 he's young :)
 @UniversalSuperBox, Exactly what I said. That language barrier :)
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 uh-oh, new kernel time!
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 dd
 @Flohack, Now it's only one issue!! I think we will have OTA 2 before our next q&a. Or on the same day!
 I seriously apologize for calling GNU/Linux "Linux".
 @peterbittner, You are forgiven.
 @mariogrip /me is curious on why my commit got reverted :P
 (hammerhead kernel)
 Will UBPorts be able to utilize CDMA?
 I'm getting a "permission error" when saving translations in: … https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/ubports-app
[05:14] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> @wagafo, Got them too stopped translating
 @Andre Büsgen, I'm only getting it for that project (ubports app), not for the other projects there
[05:17] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> I couldn't even login without problems so I stopped after some frustrating attempts and questions that were left unanswered. However I'm ready to translate as soon as the instance works for me ☺️
 @kz6fittycent, What do you mean by that?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/purism-phone-campaign-100k
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 That hype. I dont see the point why this would matter for us. You will receive a very expensive phone, and a Matrix client. If you are lucky it will make phone calls. So lets better focus on Ubuntu Touch.
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 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/hU044Wyj/file_302.webp
 @Andre Büsgen, What problems did you have for logging in? I don't think there are any problems right now on that front. And as I said, all the other projects work well, and weblate is in my opinion an excellent tool. My language is 100% translated, except for filemanager which is still locked and ubports-app that has the mentioned permission problem.
[06:42] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> Weblate is an excellent tool. However it seems that something is misconfigured server side. I will have a look into that later.
 @Andre Büsgen, Well I can just say we hit a lot of merge conflicts since it seems constantly either po files get changes on both server and github, or weblate merges are not detected in a good way and it produces conflicts by itself
[06:45] <tgBot> <Andre Büsgen> This seems odd
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[09:08] <tgBot> dreamcreator108 was added by: dreamcreator108
 @dreamcreator108, Welcome :)
[10:15] <shadov9> Is it possible to install touch without using fastboot? I can't see my device
 @shadov9, not really, we need to push recovery and boot image
[10:57] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Hi, I had yasterday laso problems installing on nexus 5.
[10:58] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> In the end the cpt for windows helped me
[10:59] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> First my bootloader was locked. As I am not IT, only user and big fan, that was already amazing task for me.
[11:00] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> I had good experience installing UBports on B 4.5, but yesterday was for quite difficult.
[11:02] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Magic device tool did not see my device, and the CPT I was not capable to install on my laptop 32 bit with 16.04 LTS
[11:03] <shadov9> i spend 2 days for it and still nothing could u give me link?
[11:07] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> LIST would like kindly ask to make more detailed documentation about the installation on supported devices: How to unlock bootloader, whtat to install first to do so (sdk android tools instead full android sdk) and also there are some happenings using the CPT, I did not now if it is working, whtat shoul I do next after selecting reboot system, as there appears new screen with menu.
[11:11] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> I am very happy to succeed but I am not to be capable to repeat as I do not know what really worked for me. Totaly confused.I am sorry, I know it is about my knowledge but honestly I am doing my best and I love UT/UBports. Franks to all that tried to help, my Nexus 5 is part of the family now.
[11:14] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Thanks, not Franks
[11:19] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Flohack I can also report progress in my  translations on weblate, waiting for new ones now🙂
 @Milan Korecky, good we will add soon ;)
[11:23] <shadov9> i will try on windows. Do you think it could be easier?
 @shadov9, It won't be. Please, don't use Windows at all.
[11:26] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> It should be the same, for me the diference was the installation detected my device.
[11:30] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> once it is detected and you are on Fast boot screen click Start, later watch the proceeding it will ask you to select recovery mode and click on install, after that I was lost. But I finished with success.
[11:31] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> please can someone confirm the next steps using cpt :?
[11:31] <shadov9> @vanyasem i don't
[11:32] <Sylar> Hi, simple question here, does ubuntu touch is still supported by some people, or is it useless to try and install it on a device?
 @bhushanshah, It was causing major performance issues on Hammerhead
[11:32] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> But Ivan, he does not see his device, what can he do
 hi
 We're here Sylar
[11:33] <shadov9> i add rules, download sdk, checked permissions on my phone, and nothing
 (Photo, 900x683) https://irc.ubports.com/Q0ieuKVk/file_304.jpg Can one day be?
 The Design is really nice :)
 This is beautiful
 Would you be able to get the result?
[11:36] <Sylar> Alright :P
 That was actually the old design
 I prefer it
 How to deliver it
 What was this version ??
 Uh... you could install some terminally old version, I guess?
 I want to test this
 @Milan Korecky, It means he did something wrong and should double-check everything. Change the cable, try a different port, maybe reboot several times.
 shadov9, sorry, just jumping in. What device are you using again?
[11:45] <tgBot> Sylar was added by: Sylar
[11:45] <shadov9> samsung s5
 Uh
 What are you trying to do?
[11:47] <shadov9> install ubuntu, but i can't see my device when i type fastboot
 Well first, I don't think Samsung uses fastboot. Second, that's not a supported device so you really can't install Ubuntu Touch on it.
 Is Samsung S5 even supported?
 You can find our supported devices at https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
 @UniversalSuperBox, Samsung uses Odin for flashing.
 It doesn't use fastboot
 @vanyasem, thousand mile stare
[11:48] <shadov9> damn, thank you guys
 Odin is Windows-only, one of the reasons I hate them
 Also it has a stupid name
[11:48] <shadov9> how much time wasted
 @UniversalSuperBox, Samsung S5 is not on the list tho 😁
 Well shadov9, you're probably ready to go now if you have a supported device?
[11:49] <shadov9> any alternatives for my brick? I hate android
 @shadov9, install LineageOS, it's as far as you can get.
 A lot better than stock TouchWiz (and it has no gapps)
[11:53] <shadov9> Thanks guys once again
 Are calls working on a Nexus 5 ?
 yes
 Noice, i think i'll try it, if you need à developer, i can try and help. although i'm more of a web developer, so not that good with linux core :P
 (Photo, 1280x516) https://irc.ubports.com/paFTogxa/file_306.jpg I stuck at here, is this ok?
[12:36] <nani_> hello
[12:37] <nani_> i am here to know if ubuntu can be installed on nexus 7 2012 wifi only
 Wow, there were a lot of Nexus 7's
[12:39] <nani_> oh hi
 I haven't heard of any unofficial builds for that. You can find our supported devices at https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch … Yours isn't on the list yet
[12:40] <nani_> ok thank you for the info
[12:43] <nani_> 7hey can you suggest any alternate version or other os for nexus 7 2012 wifi only version
 I can't, but I'm sure xda can
[12:43] <nani_> thank you again
 Wasn't their a Halium port for the Nexus 7?
[12:44] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> Quick question: are the original ut coreapps maintained by ubports?
[12:45] <bshah> @JBBgameich, there was but not for 2012 model
 ah right. ..
 @Frank Gores, We dont have maintainers for all of them but it gets slowly established, yes
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 @UniversalSuperBox, And what version it is...
 Florian, would you know?
 (Photo, 900x683) https://irc.ubports.com/wanoc4w1/file_304.jpg
 @UniversalSuperBox, That was a mockup done by a community member. It was never implemented or anything
 https://youtu.be/4KQnkNP28YQ was probably the closest thing to that. But that never hit the stable channel IIRC
 Uauuuuu
 that is nice
 @Sconio, Wut?
 @Flohack, Cdma networks in addition to GSM...here in the States, we have both cdma (Sprint and Verizon) and GSM ( t mobile and AT&T)
 @DanChapman, It is not this version
 @kz6fittycent, We've heard reports that the Nexus 5 is fine with CDMA.
 I don't have one, so I can't test...
 @Sconio, The version you want "doesn't exist"
 ok
 thank you for that clarification
 @DanChapman, I miss that version tbh, it had a global search, something we don't have no more
 So, my question is, will it be possible in the future to get kind of style on UBports?
 @PhoenixLandPirate, yep was my favourite approach to it 😞 Shame it was so quickly axed
 @UniversalSuperBox, Ok
 @Flohack, 👍
 @Sconio, 👍
 Precisely, why not work on the layout
 @mariogrip, Noted!  #audiocast....  (thanks!)
 @andreasimonetti, good insight.  send me more info on this guy on the side if you have any ;)
 @Sconio, I'm sure it's 'on the list' but probably 'a little bit down the list?
 I sincerely hope
[15:04] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Mohannes Hi again, for my new device where can I find the URL link for Podbird, I cannot copy it from the BQ one and I don't find it on the webpage.Thanks in advance
 open store ?
 @kz6fittycent, That probably depends only on hardware & drivers, not much that ubports can do
[15:14] <tgBot> David Marceau was added by: David Marceau
[15:14] <tgBot> <David Marceau> I just wanted to drop by to say I installed your ubports on my Nexus 5. The install worked without hitches :)
 Nice thx ;)
 @David Marceau, welcome david
[15:17] <tgBot> <David Marceau> I have a passion for golang and therecipe/qt bindings.  Are there any recipes I can use to make an app with those and install it to ubports?
 @David Marceau, I will have to have a council meeting to answer that...
[15:20] <tgBot> <David Marceau> https://gophers.slack.com/files/omac777/F6MRH6RGE/arcto_example_embedded_within_shapedclock.go
 @exar_kun ! log this for "spin the wheel'!
 since you are new you can catch up here as to why this is funny for me: … https://soundcloud.com/ubports/
 @David Marceau, I was recently looking at forking a simple app, and I've noticed it is written in golang. Take a look at: https://github.com/wagafo/net-info
 @David Marceau, https://github.com/nikwen/ubuntu-go-qml-template also here's a template to get you going in the right direction
[15:24] <tgBot> <David Marceau> Is that still using gustavo's go-qml bindings?  Have you considered moving to the therecipe/qt bindings because they are certainly thorough.
 Are the go-qml bindings still supported then? AFAIK niemeyer is no longer working on them since he moved to the snapd team at canonical
 Oh have a link to therecipe/qt bindings?
 Oh wow! that is thorough
 Looks like it should be fairly trivial to get it working and shouldn't require any special wrappers around QApplication like sailfish requires. Just fire up a QQuickView and you should be away.
 I'm going to have a play with this tonight.
[16:31] <tgBot> <David Marceau> Pardon my ignorance, but is there a wiki to get up to speed on developing ubports apps?  I used to connect via some ssh shell via wifi, but is there another ssh that passes through the usb cable instead? i.e. adb shell something?
[16:32] <tgBot> <David Marceau> I'm am doing my best to rely on qml stuff and more on the entire qt binding stuff to build the app. I do hope the ubuntu touch gui isn't too contrained to qml.
[16:33] <tgBot> <David Marceau> Thank you Mr. Chapman.
[16:34] <tgBot> <David Marceau> I just read that nikwen ubuntu-go-qml-template link which pretty much answered a great deal.
[16:37] <tgBot> <David Marceau> the documentation on that link is dated 3 years old.
[16:37] <tgBot> <David Marceau> go1.3.3 should be replaced with the go1.9 that just released.
[16:38] <tgBot> <David Marceau> the github.com/therecipe/qt bindings work with 5.8 or 5.9.1...Qt 5.9.1 is out.
[16:39] <tgBot> <David Marceau> therecipe/qt bindings do indeed work with go1.9 and the latest qt 5.9.1 on windows/archlinux for amd64. I brought the binaries from the archlinux box to a centos box and they behaved as expected.
[16:40] <tgBot> <David Marceau> It should work on the nexus 5.
[16:40] <tgBot> <David Marceau> it's aarch64.
[16:41] <tgBot> <David Marceau> the qt binaries for out there for aarch64 on pi 3, the same ones should work on ubports aarch64 also.
[16:43] <tgBot> <David Marceau> my only frustration with the nexus4 with ubuntu touch was the storage capacity and the inability to install the necessary dev tools directly on the phone and build directly from there.  It's not the traditional way of developing for phones, but it would have been more convenient.
 I have a problem with my nexus 5 ,in the camera app dont works video ,can somewhere help me ?
 Yes there is a big latency during the ransition of the photo to the camera
 I can do nothing ?
 Speak here is a solution
 And wait for an UBports member to respond
 report a bug
 on GitHub
 if it hasn't done yet
 @mymike00, 👍🏻
 @Sconio, No it does not work ,thank you
 lol
 its solution ^^
 report bug
 haha
 @Stratoulis, It's a known issue, scheduled to be fixed in OTA-3 I seem to remember. See the 5th milestone in: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/milestone/6
 Is this bug?
 @David Marceau, You will most likely need to use the system Qt libraries current Qt5.4, and build with `QT_PKG_CONFIG=true`. Otherwise you won't be able to use the qpa platform plugin (ubuntumirclient). i.e your app won't be able to show windows, access clipboards and all that other platformie stuff
 @Sconio, certainly wouldn't call it expected behaviour 😜
 😁
 UBports Audiocast 007  -  New Mic, Lost Generation | UBports … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubports-audiocast-007-new-mic-lost-generation-64
 I found something 🦑
 @exar_kun, nice work, Joe!  You shut them all up with this incredible audiocast.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/enU06UD1/file_307.mp4
 (Photo, 1280x731) https://irc.ubports.com/J0hbuZ0H/file_309.jpg I translated some strings here and then it says "Translation locked" even if I didn't locked anything... is it a problem?
 Paging doctor @Flohack
 @mymike00, How long ago was that? Weblate auto-locks translations when someone works on them for some minutes to prevent two people from overwriting each other's work without realizing
 Unless it's staying there for really long it's normal and intended behaviour
 @mymike00, hmm strange but can you continue?
 Weblate is unknown grounds we are learning every day
 I'm trying to use it, but everytime I try to save a translation it says: RepositoryException at /translate/ubports/system-settings/it/ … error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database .git/objects … error: po/it.po: failed to insert into database … error: unable to index file po/it.po … fatal: updating files failed (128)
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 one question ... i asked that i think already is there any relation, cooperation with https://liri.io/ ?
 There is not.
 Have you seen this video? They talk about Ubports at minute ~38 https://youtu.be/4SwE9W8JasA
 @deedend, I appreciate that they're bringing Matrix and Riot to a better state. That's going to be nice for the entire community. … There wasn't much meat to the Halium question, but he did bring up the "well, we're making a new phone not selecting some old thing and trying to keep it around" point. But... The i.MX6 is some old thing, isn't it? The difference is that they'll have in-kernel support, which is really the most important part o
[21:35] <tgBot> their phone.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I agree, but unfortunately I think that imx6 is the only option nowadays every other chipmaker requires blobs and don't isolate the modem, that is one of the points of this phone. It's also suitable for Replicant, even if frankly I prefer to have a full GNU/Linux stack in place of an android free clone
 If the mx8 will be available hopefully they will use that
 If they don't know if they can use it now, they're not going to get it in a couple of quarters. That feels way too fast.
 Yes
 I can appreciate what they're trying to do, but I don't think I'll have a positive opinion about it until there's a real device (not a dev kit) in the hands of reviewers.
 Excited for Matrix getting better. That's positive.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Definitely!
 I will back the project as soon as I have collected the money
 @UniversalSuperBox, I am not sure. I still dont see the Matrix benefits ^^
 @Flohack, Client runs on another platform, buzz about the project, probably at least a small amount of money coming in from the company.
 I mean the benefits of Matrix as a messenger
 Compared to?
[22:09] <tgBot> IanIannotti was added by: IanIannotti
 Compared to Telegram or WhatsApp lets say 😆
 (Sticker, 512x467) https://irc.ubports.com/0uTkZT0J/file_310.webp
 Thank you all for your great work
 @Flohack, Well, Matrix is decentralized and can be set up for end-to-end encryption. It also has a bridge for everything, so you can chat on other platforms with a Matrix client.
 Welcome @IanIannotti, thanks!
 @UniversalSuperBox, So ok let me say, decentralized is nice, but currently I have more trust into uptime of the Telegram servers than into a myriad of user-hosted nodes
 End-to-end? yes maybe works well for peer2peer but the same problems with group chats. In the end its the same like XMPP/Jabber protocol
 Sure, and parts of the Matrix network have gone down rather spectacularly in the past month.
 @garrogarri, Looks like it was solved automagically
 @Flohack, It can also be integrated into lots of different apps, services, and devices... just like... xmpp was...
 Ah! Here we are @Flohack! https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html#what-is-the-difference-between-matrix-and-xmpp
 @UniversalSuperBox, http://spectrum.im/documentation/about.html
 @deedend, Just curious, where  is this school that is teaching everyone to say "Ubuntu" wrong?  Is there like a course I missed ? Why do people work harder to say it wrong?  Long "o' for all the syllables is actually easier than changing the vowel sounds for each 'U'.  Anyone?  Anyone?  This guy is on my hit list #audiocast
 @wayneoutthere, If you're talking about Lunduke, take a number. Guy is not well-liked.
 He's got a nice voice.  I'll give him that.
 but he even said "Halium" correctly
 like What the ....  how is this so hard and for a guy like this who claims to be 'in the community' dang..
 people like this
 getting butthurt
 over the way he pronnounces a word
 just..... cancer
 Ah, good old drama where someone gets offended over people getting offended over nothing
 Oh, I'm not offended. I'm amused, and somewhat disgusted.
 Just expected more.
 Alright, take it outside
 *is just bored* :P
 Oh BTW @PhoenixLandPirate
 (Sticker, 490x512) https://irc.ubports.com/GUM6q0Tu/file_311.webp
 (Loljk I loved Madoka Magica holy cow everyone should watch that)
 I'll shut up :P
 @wayneoutthere, In German we pronounce it OOboontoo with short OO and first oo ^^
 @Flohack, my general theory on names is this: Unless youare making fun of someone, try to say someone's name (and company name) correctly.  If you fail, correct.  We are human but the effort should be there.  Names are personal and have meaning.  Simple as that.
 But what is correct now?
 maybe Land Duke is making fun of them
 Ask @exar_kun he made a 'how to pronounce it right' app for ubuntu a while back
 (it's African)
 @Flohack, It's pronounced Ubuntu
 But not like Ubuntu
 For context, Wayne is a marketeer among other things.
 @Lorxu, This I found: /ʊˈbʊntuː/
 So its Jooboontoo 😆
 ^^
 Lol found different dictionaries with different opinions
[22:58] <tgBot> mateosalta was added by: mateosalta
 Soo Yooboontoo or ooboontoo
 haha I go to sleep now
 The Y is optional but not recommended
 :P
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/rVHnxIs4/file_312.webp
 http://www.memidex.com/ubuntu
 @UniversalSuperBox, correct.  that's for the selfish OS release "Youbuntu"  We don't do selfish here so it's ooo
 Ask Desmond Tutu or Mark Shuttleworth. I think they are related to Ubuntu or something.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Actually it wasn't. That's a concept from a community member.
 This is the original proposal: https://www.behance.net/gallery/29848255/Ubuntu-Touch-Vibrant-Venice
 #audiocastfeedback (Yeah, that's new, deal with it @wayneoutthere) … F-Droid, the open-source app store for Android, has the beginnings of the education that you talk about in this week's episode. Some apps have a heading that alerts you of possible "Antifeatures" in the app, such as using non-Free network services or non-Free source code. It's not hard to imagine this being extended with more anti-features, such as "Uses your habits to ma
[23:50] <tgBot> you"
 @Lorxu, I agree