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slashdrbasak, I see you are chairing the server team meeting today, I'll be absent, it's my kids first day of school.15:38
rbasakslashd: noted, thanks!15:40
teward*waves*15:45
tewardrbasak: finally got my chance to chair last week :P15:45
cpaelzero/15:45
smoseryou all are earluy15:45
smoserearly even.15:45
tewardproblem?  :)15:45
smoseri guess not.15:46
cpaelzerlast chance to talk outside of the log that is sent to the world smoser15:49
cpaelzerwell the server lgos anyway, but it is not sent explicitly15:49
ahasenacko/15:58
nacco/15:58
cpaelzerre-o/15:59
smbo/16:00
powersjo/16:00
dpb1hi16:00
rbasak#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Aug 29 16:00:31 2017 UTC.  The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:00
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:00
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rbasak#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:00
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rbasak* nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:00
rbasak* nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:00
rbasak* rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:00
rbasakI still need to carry over mine16:00
rbasaknacc?16:01
cpaelzerwell we are short of next release notes now16:01
naccrbasak: carry :/16:01
nacci'll try and actually do it this week16:01
cpaelzer"close to" I meant16:01
rbasak#action nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:01
meetingologyACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:01
rbasak#action nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:01
meetingologyACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:01
rbasak#action rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:01
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:01
rbasak#topic Artful Development16:01
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rbasak#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule16:01
rbasak#subtopic Current Work16:01
rbasak#link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server16:01
rbasak#info Feature freeze has hit, so bugfixes only now16:02
rbasakAny planned FFEs?16:02
rbasakI see ahasenack's squid3 merge has landed - thanks!16:02
cpaelzeryeah16:02
cpaelzerI plan FFE on slof16:02
ahasenackjust in time :)16:02
rbasak#info cpaelzer plans an FFe for slof16:02
rbasakAnything else for current work for Artful?16:03
cpaelzerreasoning for the slof FFE (among others) is bug 170624816:03
ubottubug 1706248 in slof (Ubuntu) "SLOF dhcp request doesn't include client architecture code 93" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170624816:03
rbasakThanks cpaelzer!16:03
rbasak#subtopic Release Bugs16:03
rbasak#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:03
rbasakAny bugs for release that need attention?16:04
rbasak#info No bugs were called out for specific attention16:04
rbasak#topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)16:04
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chilukI plan an ffe on haproxy.16:04
rbasakslashd sent his apologies. I'm not sure if ddstreet is taking this topic, or we should skip it?16:04
rbasak#info chiluk plans an FFe for haproxy16:04
rbasakThanks chiluk!16:04
ahasenackchiluk: for the reload bit?16:05
chilukyep16:05
ddstreetrbasak nothing from me or slashd as far as i know16:05
chilukI tried to get it finished last week, but things just didn't happen.16:05
rbasakThanks ddstreet!16:05
rbasak#info No updates on this topic from slashd or ddstreet16:05
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)16:05
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powersjLast week got mirroring of Launchpad recipe build results into our jenkins and attended the cloud-init summit.16:05
powersjThis week more cloud-init work on generic integration tests16:06
powersjquestions comments?16:06
rbasak#link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/16:07
rbasak#info Last week got mirroring of Launchpad recipe build results into our jenkins and attended the cloud-init summit.16:07
cpaelzerI wanted to add on the testing16:07
rbasak#info This week more cloud-init work on generic integration tests16:07
cpaelzerI analyzed the current failing cases on the server jenkisn virt cases  - all are current known cases and I hope to resolve them by fixing up artful16:08
cpaelzerbut I have a reglar schedule to check and improve so it will converge on green at some point in time16:08
powersjo/ woohoo thanks cpaelzer16:08
rbasak#info cpaelzer analyzed the current failing cases on the server jenkins virt cases. All are current known cases and he hopes to resolve them by fixing up artful16:08
rbasakThanks cpaelzer and powersj!16:08
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)16:08
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smbNothing new from kernel directly, but I had a few things outside kernel which I wanted to mention:16:09
smb One is that we observed some test failures of ubuntu-fan on16:09
smb  s390x. The reasons for those I suspect beyond fan or kernel.16:09
smb  I believe this is because I set up the two guests which show16:09
smb  issues, using netplan. The result is that resolv.conf now16:09
smb  only has systemd-resolvd as nameserver. And I suspect, but16:09
smb  no proof yet, that for some reason that maybe rejects queries16:09
smb  issued from within docker (and maybe lxc, too) containers.16:09
smb  I would file a LP bug if this is not something known already.16:09
smb- Second, flashcache: thats a (dkms) package which used to16:09
smb  provide some way to add a SSD/NVMe cache to a spinning block16:09
rbasak#info Nothing new from kernel directly16:09
smb  device (mostly like bcache but without adding meta-data16:09
smb  anywhere). It is no longer comiling with 4.12/4.13 kernels,16:09
smb  which actually is a good thing. Problem is this is abandoned16:09
smb  upstream and when I "fixed" the compile to work with some16:09
smb  pretty heavy upstream kernel changes, I actually converted16:09
smb  it into a complicated /dev/null for any kernel between 4.816:09
smb  and 4.11. So plan is to pretty soon make it not compile at16:09
rbasak#info some observed some test failures of ubuntu-fan on s390x16:09
smb  all for those kernels. If there is some documentation any-16:09
smb  where which should be updated, please let me know. Does16:09
smb  not need to be here.16:09
smbOk, thats all I had. Are there any other questions?16:09
xnoxsmb, is ubuntu-fan at all supported, since i did not think we ever released anything for z with ubuntu-fan support?16:10
rbasak#info flashcache: thats a (dkms) package which used to provide some way to add a SSD/NVMe cache to a spinning block device: no longer compiling16:10
xnoxsmb, and no, nothing of the sort is known yet. Then again I do not believe anybody has tried using ubuntu-fan on s390x.16:10
smbxnox, its a generic package and the smoke test was working before16:10
xnoxsmb, my understanding it was aws specific, yet the reason for ubuntu-fan is now moot.16:11
smbxnox, also note that I do not think its a problem of the package16:11
xnoxack,16:11
smbxnox, its failing because docker cannot resolve dns names16:11
xnoxsmb, finding and fixing bugs is always good. and docker not doing resolvy things sounds bad.16:11
smbxnox, ack, so I will file something soonish and subscribe you to it for the know16:12
rbasakThanks smb and xnox!16:14
cpaelzerah smb you remember I mentioned https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-08/msg05286.html16:14
cpaelzerIt seems to be to "only" be queued to 4.14 and -stable16:14
smbcpaelzer, I remember you mentioned it but I might have blanked for what reason16:14
cpaelzerbut the impact of this could be huge, so you probably want that on release instead of SRU'ing later16:14
cpaelzerTL;DR Bug, solution is disable empty zero-page for KVm on s390x16:15
cpaelzerwhich on a bunch of guests not fully using their mem can be quite a lot of extra mem16:15
sforsheecpaelzer: best thing to do is file a bug and subscribe me16:15
cpaelzerbut the assumption is that real guests over time consume (cache) all their mem anyway16:15
cpaelzerI'll do so sforshee16:15
sforsheecpaelzer: actually just assign it to me16:16
cpaelzerit was only heads up before, but yeah a bug might be good at this point16:16
smbAh I was about to say something like that. Or submit the patch as [unstable] ... to kernel-team mailing list16:16
smbbut bug reports are alway a good thing to remember stuff at that stage16:17
rbasak#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:18
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rbasak#link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/16:18
rbasak#link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit16:18
rbasakI see that the deadline for this is #link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit16:19
rbasakUh, Sep 4, 201716:19
rbasakAny other CfPs to mention?16:19
rbasak#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:20
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rbasakAny upcoming events?16:20
rbasak#info No upcoming events were mentioned16:20
rbasak#topic Open Discussion16:20
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rbasakAOB?16:20
rbasak#info No further discussion16:20
rbasak#topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:20
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rbasak#info Next meeting: Tue  5 Sep 16:00:00 UTC 201716:21
rbasak#info smoser will chair16:21
rbasak#endmeeting16:21
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Aug 29 16:21:38 2017 UTC.16:21
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-08-29-16.00.moin.txt16:21
powersjthanks rbasak!16:21
ahasenackthanks rbasak16:21
cpaelzerThanks rbasak!16:21
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