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[15:38] <slashd> rbasak, I see you are chairing the server team meeting today, I'll be absent, it's my kids first day of school.
[15:40] <rbasak> slashd: noted, thanks!
[15:45] <teward> *waves*
[15:45] <teward> rbasak: finally got my chance to chair last week :P
[15:45] <cpaelzer> o/
[15:45] <smoser> you all are earluy
[15:45] <smoser> early even.
[15:45] <teward> problem?  :)
[15:46] <smoser> i guess not.
[15:49] <cpaelzer> last chance to talk outside of the log that is sent to the world smoser
[15:49] <cpaelzer> well the server lgos anyway, but it is not sent explicitly
[15:58] <ahasenack> o/
[15:58] <nacc> o/
[15:59] <cpaelzer> re-o/
[16:00] <smb> o/
[16:00] <powersj> o/
[16:00] <dpb1> hi
[16:00] <rbasak> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 29 16:00:31 2017 UTC.  The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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[16:00] <rbasak> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
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[16:00] <rbasak> * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:00] <rbasak> * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:00] <rbasak> * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:00] <rbasak> I still need to carry over mine
[16:01] <rbasak> nacc?
[16:01] <cpaelzer> well we are short of next release notes now
[16:01] <nacc> rbasak: carry :/
[16:01] <nacc> i'll try and actually do it this week
[16:01] <cpaelzer> "close to" I meant
[16:01] <rbasak> #action nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <rbasak> #action nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <rbasak> #action rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:01] <rbasak> #topic Artful Development
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[16:01] <rbasak> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[16:01] <rbasak> #subtopic Current Work
[16:01] <rbasak> #link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server
[16:02] <rbasak> #info Feature freeze has hit, so bugfixes only now
[16:02] <rbasak> Any planned FFEs?
[16:02] <rbasak> I see ahasenack's squid3 merge has landed - thanks!
[16:02] <cpaelzer> yeah
[16:02] <cpaelzer> I plan FFE on slof
[16:02] <ahasenack> just in time :)
[16:02] <rbasak> #info cpaelzer plans an FFe for slof
[16:03] <rbasak> Anything else for current work for Artful?
[16:03] <cpaelzer> reasoning for the slof FFE (among others) is bug 1706248
[16:03] <ubottu> bug 1706248 in slof (Ubuntu) "SLOF dhcp request doesn't include client architecture code 93" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706248
[16:03] <rbasak> Thanks cpaelzer!
[16:03] <rbasak> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:03] <rbasak> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:04] <rbasak> Any bugs for release that need attention?
[16:04] <rbasak> #info No bugs were called out for specific attention
[16:04] <rbasak> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)
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[16:04] <chiluk> I plan an ffe on haproxy.
[16:04] <rbasak> slashd sent his apologies. I'm not sure if ddstreet is taking this topic, or we should skip it?
[16:04] <rbasak> #info chiluk plans an FFe for haproxy
[16:04] <rbasak> Thanks chiluk!
[16:05] <ahasenack> chiluk: for the reload bit?
[16:05] <chiluk> yep
[16:05] <ddstreet> rbasak nothing from me or slashd as far as i know
[16:05] <chiluk> I tried to get it finished last week, but things just didn't happen.
[16:05] <rbasak> Thanks ddstreet!
[16:05] <rbasak> #info No updates on this topic from slashd or ddstreet
[16:05] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
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[16:05] <powersj> Last week got mirroring of Launchpad recipe build results into our jenkins and attended the cloud-init summit.
[16:06] <powersj> This week more cloud-init work on generic integration tests
[16:06] <powersj> questions comments?
[16:07] <rbasak> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
[16:07] <rbasak> #info Last week got mirroring of Launchpad recipe build results into our jenkins and attended the cloud-init summit.
[16:07] <cpaelzer> I wanted to add on the testing
[16:07] <rbasak> #info This week more cloud-init work on generic integration tests
[16:08] <cpaelzer> I analyzed the current failing cases on the server jenkisn virt cases  - all are current known cases and I hope to resolve them by fixing up artful
[16:08] <cpaelzer> but I have a reglar schedule to check and improve so it will converge on green at some point in time
[16:08] <powersj> o/ woohoo thanks cpaelzer
[16:08] <rbasak> #info cpaelzer analyzed the current failing cases on the server jenkins virt cases. All are current known cases and he hopes to resolve them by fixing up artful
[16:08] <rbasak> Thanks cpaelzer and powersj!
[16:08] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
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[16:09] <smb> Nothing new from kernel directly, but I had a few things outside kernel which I wanted to mention:
[16:09] <smb>  One is that we observed some test failures of ubuntu-fan on
[16:09] <smb>   s390x. The reasons for those I suspect beyond fan or kernel.
[16:09] <smb>   I believe this is because I set up the two guests which show
[16:09] <smb>   issues, using netplan. The result is that resolv.conf now
[16:09] <smb>   only has systemd-resolvd as nameserver. And I suspect, but
[16:09] <smb>   no proof yet, that for some reason that maybe rejects queries
[16:09] <smb>   issued from within docker (and maybe lxc, too) containers.
[16:09] <smb>   I would file a LP bug if this is not something known already.
[16:09] <smb> - Second, flashcache: thats a (dkms) package which used to
[16:09] <smb>   provide some way to add a SSD/NVMe cache to a spinning block
[16:09] <rbasak> #info Nothing new from kernel directly
[16:09] <smb>   device (mostly like bcache but without adding meta-data
[16:09] <smb>   anywhere). It is no longer comiling with 4.12/4.13 kernels,
[16:09] <smb>   which actually is a good thing. Problem is this is abandoned
[16:09] <smb>   upstream and when I "fixed" the compile to work with some
[16:09] <smb>   pretty heavy upstream kernel changes, I actually converted
[16:09] <smb>   it into a complicated /dev/null for any kernel between 4.8
[16:09] <smb>   and 4.11. So plan is to pretty soon make it not compile at
[16:09] <rbasak> #info some observed some test failures of ubuntu-fan on s390x
[16:09] <smb>   all for those kernels. If there is some documentation any-
[16:09] <smb>   where which should be updated, please let me know. Does
[16:09] <smb>   not need to be here.
[16:09] <smb> Ok, thats all I had. Are there any other questions?
[16:10] <xnox> smb, is ubuntu-fan at all supported, since i did not think we ever released anything for z with ubuntu-fan support?
[16:10] <rbasak> #info flashcache: thats a (dkms) package which used to provide some way to add a SSD/NVMe cache to a spinning block device: no longer compiling
[16:10] <xnox> smb, and no, nothing of the sort is known yet. Then again I do not believe anybody has tried using ubuntu-fan on s390x.
[16:10] <smb> xnox, its a generic package and the smoke test was working before
[16:11] <xnox> smb, my understanding it was aws specific, yet the reason for ubuntu-fan is now moot.
[16:11] <smb> xnox, also note that I do not think its a problem of the package
[16:11] <xnox> ack,
[16:11] <smb> xnox, its failing because docker cannot resolve dns names
[16:11] <xnox> smb, finding and fixing bugs is always good. and docker not doing resolvy things sounds bad.
[16:12] <smb> xnox, ack, so I will file something soonish and subscribe you to it for the know
[16:14] <rbasak> Thanks smb and xnox!
[16:14] <cpaelzer> ah smb you remember I mentioned https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-08/msg05286.html
[16:14] <cpaelzer> It seems to be to "only" be queued to 4.14 and -stable
[16:14] <smb> cpaelzer, I remember you mentioned it but I might have blanked for what reason
[16:14] <cpaelzer> but the impact of this could be huge, so you probably want that on release instead of SRU'ing later
[16:15] <cpaelzer> TL;DR Bug, solution is disable empty zero-page for KVm on s390x
[16:15] <cpaelzer> which on a bunch of guests not fully using their mem can be quite a lot of extra mem
[16:15] <sforshee> cpaelzer: best thing to do is file a bug and subscribe me
[16:15] <cpaelzer> but the assumption is that real guests over time consume (cache) all their mem anyway
[16:15] <cpaelzer> I'll do so sforshee
[16:16] <sforshee> cpaelzer: actually just assign it to me
[16:16] <cpaelzer> it was only heads up before, but yeah a bug might be good at this point
[16:16] <smb> Ah I was about to say something like that. Or submit the patch as [unstable] ... to kernel-team mailing list
[16:17] <smb> but bug reports are alway a good thing to remember stuff at that stage
[16:18] <rbasak> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
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[16:18] <rbasak> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
[16:18] <rbasak> #link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit
[16:19] <rbasak> I see that the deadline for this is #link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit
[16:19] <rbasak> Uh, Sep 4, 2017
[16:19] <rbasak> Any other CfPs to mention?
[16:20] <rbasak> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
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[16:20] <rbasak> Any upcoming events?
[16:20] <rbasak> #info No upcoming events were mentioned
[16:20] <rbasak> #topic Open Discussion
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[16:20] <rbasak> AOB?
[16:20] <rbasak> #info No further discussion
[16:20] <rbasak> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
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[16:21] <rbasak> #info Next meeting: Tue  5 Sep 16:00:00 UTC 2017
[16:21] <rbasak> #info smoser will chair
[16:21] <rbasak> #endmeeting
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[16:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 16:21:38 2017 UTC.
[16:21] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-08-29-16.00.moin.txt
[16:21] <powersj> thanks rbasak!
[16:21] <ahasenack> thanks rbasak
[16:21] <cpaelzer> Thanks rbasak!
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