[00:02] <littlekitty> hello i'm having two problem with ubuntu: i can't control my mouse cursor. it's like there isn't a mouse plugged in (but its flashing and xsetpointer -l shows an optical mouse) and also i cant control my case fans
[00:36] <geigerCounter> I broke my desktop manager. Logging in fails and drops me back to the login screen.
[00:36] <geigerCounter> Well, unless I log in to a Weston session.
[00:37] <geigerCounter> How do I fix this?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> geigerCounter: Are "you" authorized to access your DE ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' ?
[00:42] <geigerCounter> I am.
[00:42] <geigerCounter> I'm not sure how.
[00:43] <geigerCounter> Bashing-om: So what should I do?
[00:44] <Bashing-om> geigerCounter: geigerCounter "-rw------- 1 sysop sysop   50 Aug 28 08:40 .Xauthority" where I am sysop . Is your ourputs similar for "you" .
[00:44] <geigerCounter> Oh, no.
[00:44] <geigerCounter> It's -rw------- 1 root root
[00:45] <geigerCounter> Bashing-om: Should I chown it?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> geigerCounter: Yepper, you do not have the authority . root does . Pastebin the outputs; see what we need to revert .
[00:46] <geigerCounter> Bashing-om: Pastebin the results of what?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> geigerCounter: ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority
[00:49] <littlekitty> i have a problem with my mouse. it wont move the cursor at all
[00:49] <littlekitty> neither clicking is working
[00:50] <littlekitty> the laser is on and it shows up in xsetpointer -l
[00:50] <littlekitty> and the mouse works on my second pc
[00:50] <geigerCounter> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25421516
[00:53] <JonelethIrenicus> i am on 16.04 anyone know a good way to upgrade my kernel?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> geigerCounter: Good . so far only the one file . Run ' sudo chown anatoly:anatoly .ICEauthority ' Reboot - now can you access ?
[00:53] <JonelethIrenicus> I am on threadripper and getting some pcie TLP errors
[00:53] <JonelethIrenicus> was hoping a newer kernel could solve my problems
[00:54] <geigerCounter> Bashing-om: It already is owned by anatoly:anatoly
[00:54] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Only to pervent you shooting yourself in the foot . Why do you want a later kernel ?
[00:55] <Bashing-om> Giant81: My bad .. should be directed to the file ' sudo chown anatoly:anatoly .Xauthority ' .
[00:56] <geigerCounter> Ah okay
[00:58] <geigerCounter> Bashing-om: That did it. Thanks! :)
[00:59] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: https://paste.kde.org/pcit18w0t
[00:59] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: keep getting a Bad TRL error
[00:59] <Bashing-om> geigerCounter: Leason learned ? DO NOT sudo in your own /home .
[00:59] <littlekitty> how can i set the speed of my case fans?
[00:59] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: TLP*
[00:59] <littlekitty> they are voltage controlled - the old three pin ones
[01:02] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: "advanced power management " . What is the machine that you are running ? Late enough that HWE will benefit you ?
[01:03] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: it is a brand new Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 motherboard with a Threadripper CPU
[01:03] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: not even sure power management will help
[01:03] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Agreed, May well benefit ! see:
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !hwe | JonelethIrenicus
[01:09] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: this seems handy
[01:12] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: The saner way to get the later kernel and X stack . // Did you install TLP and have yet to configure it ?
[01:12] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: i don't remember installing it
[01:13] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: I already have hwe-16.04 but could install -edge
[01:13] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: TLP is for laptops?
[01:14] <JonelethIrenicus> don't think i need it if it is
[01:14] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Yes tlp is for laptops . see: ' apt show tlp ' .
[01:15] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: yeah don't think it is that
[01:15] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: says TLP is not installed
[01:16] <JonelethIrenicus> what is this device even? 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1453
[01:20] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: GPU pass through ? So far as I know presently issues with AMD on a couple of fronts .
[01:22] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: people on this thread I think are saying it is some motherboard issue related to the PLX https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/957456/geforce-drivers/gtx-1080-throwing-bad-tlp-pcie-bus-errors/2/
[01:25] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Let's know what the hardware us that we are working wuth , pastebin '
[01:25] <JonelethIrenicus> dmesg?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Fat fingered .. show - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - in a pastebin site .
[01:28] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: i showed the output of lspci
[01:28] <JonelethIrenicus> in the pastebin if that is what you are lookin for
[01:28] <JonelethIrenicus> https://paste.kde.org/pcit18w0t#line-24
[01:32] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: i would do that command but I do not have "show" installed
[01:33] <Pinkamena_D> All of my taskbar indicators follow the greyish 'ambiance' theme except for the google chrome one. Any way to edit that icon to make it look like the others? :)
[01:36] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: In terminal run only ' lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' | nc termbin.com 9999. The result is a URL back in terminal. Pass that link back here .
[01:37] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Be aware AMD has nothing to do with geforce-drivers ( nvidia) .
[01:51] <JonelethIrenicus> Bashing-om: what they were talking about in the thread was motherboard related i think
[01:52] <guzzlefry> Is Ubuntu set up in a way that makes it easy to type special characters?
[01:58] <NoCode> Is anyone else having Firefox issues where addons are labelled legacy and are disabled?
[02:04] <kk4ewt> NoCode, legacy but not disabled
[02:05] <kk4ewt> NoCode,  file all bugs with Mozilla
[02:05] <n0rthlight> Hey all I really need some help here. I have been looking for a solution for a long time. On Ubuntu and ubuntu based distro my vpn does not work it leak. I have tried multiples other distro with no issue only in Ubuntu, xubuntu ect.
[02:06] <n0rthlight>  I have tried multiple solution on the forum and all but nothing worked.
[02:07] <NoCode> Welp, time to look for a different browser then
[02:08] <NoCode> Maybe I'll try Brave
[02:09] <n0rthlight> I have also tried on both 16.04 and 17.04.
[02:15] <guzzlefry> NoCode: Brave is just a bunch of odd wrappings around whatever the base browser is.
[02:15] <guzzlefry> Chromium^
[02:29] <lafleurdubien> I'm having serious problems with my mouse cursor moving to the bottom right and doing a fast and extreme "zoom-in" behavior
[02:29] <lafleurdubien> Has anybody had or heard of this issue?
[02:33] <auser_> hello everyone
[02:33] <auser_> i keep on getting this when running :openssl
[02:33] <auser_> openssl: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:33] <auser_> how can i fix this ?
[02:40] <Speed_> how do i install cpu-g?
[02:40] <Speed_> i tried to add the repository and install it with apt-get but it cant find it
[02:41] <Bashing-om> auser_: For starters: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' Then show in a pastie ' sudo apt -f install ' .
[02:43] <Speed_> https://hastebin.com/cekiguheya.pas
[02:51] <auser_> Bashing-om, I have done that and still whenever i run openssl, i get the same error
[02:54] <Bashing-om> auser_: and -f onstall returns as no fualt found ? . thgen show the command and the full pit put that generates the openssl; so we get it in context .
[02:55] <auser_>  sudo apt -f install
[02:55] <auser_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:55] <auser_> Building dependency tree
[02:55] <auser_> Reading state information... Done
[02:55] <auser_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:56] <auser_> i get this, and what i get is when i run openssl is : openssl: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:05] <lafleurdubien> I'm having serious problems with my mouse cursor moving to the bottom right and doing a fast and extreme "zoom-in" behavior
[03:06] <Bashing-om> !find libcrypto.so.1.1
[03:07] <krytarik> !find libcrypto.so.1.1
[03:09] <auser_> internet disconnected, sorry. Bashing-om do you know what i should be doing
[03:12] <Bashing-om> auser_: Still looking to see what is ; my system " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2361856 May 19 09:18 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0
[03:13] <Bashing-om> auser_: What release are you running ?
[04:30] <lostname> Hey guys, I need to use a package which requires a legacy version of gcc which is not in the package manager. How would someone go about installing that old version?
[04:30] <lostname> specifically i need to use libgcc4.4
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> lostname: its not really recommended to install other package versions like that
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> lostname: better keep versions for the specific ubuntu version
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> lostname: wich program you need that for? perhaps there are other workarounds?
[04:41] <lostname> Hi lotuspsychje, thanks for the help. I'm trying to use nvidia's cuda nvcc program. It seems to require a libgcc under 5
[04:41] <lostname> was incorrect about it having to be an exact version, not sure why I thought that :)
[04:44] <lostname> lotuspsychje, something like this safe to do?: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28009785/cuda-version-x-complains-about-not-supporting-gcc-version-y-what-to-do
[04:45] <auser_> hello
[04:46] <auser_>  have an openssl error that i cant seem to fiz
[04:46] <auser_>   
[04:46] <auser_> openssl: error hile loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[04:46] <auser_> rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.2:
[04:46] <auser_> WARNING: Skipping duplicate certificate ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
[04:47] <auser_> every application that needs openssl isnt running
[04:55] <auser_> anyone ?
[04:56] <hateball> auser_: Anyone what?
[04:57] <auser_> refarding my issue, anyone can help with it ?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> auser_: to get your issue solved, re-ask your question in channel once in a while so others can read
[05:04] <auser_> k thanks mate
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> auser_: use a pastebin for larger error texts
[05:06] <auser_> i got openssl error
[05:06] <auser_> openssl: error hile loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[05:06] <auser_> rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.2:
[05:06] <auser_> usr/bin/openssl: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:06] <auser_> WARNING: Skipping duplicate certificate ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
[05:06] <auser_> running openssl in the shell give me this error snd rtorrent wont load either abd many apps that seems to be using opensssl
[06:02] <Squarism> Whats your oppinion on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc (Stallman arguing that Canonical is greedy spy ware company) =D
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Squarism: no polls here please
[06:07] <Squarism> poll? Just curious on oppinions.
[06:07] <Ben64> Squarism: this is not the place for that
[06:07] <hateball> Which is offtopic for this channel
[06:07] <hateball> !ot | Squarism
[06:08] <Squarism> Wow, that was sensitive
[06:12] <psychoticwarrior> hey
[06:31] <stranglerfish> hello
[06:31] <stranglerfish> i'm hoping someone can help me out. i'm trying to set up shared folder over network, created on my ubuntu laptop to be accessed by my win10 laptop
[06:32] <stranglerfish> i'm following https://www.howtogeek.com/176471/how-to-share-files-between-windows-and-linux/ but when i try to access the share from windows i get an error saying the location cannot be found
[06:37] <ppang> stranglerfish: it works for me
[06:56] <stranglerfish> ppang: what could be wrong on my end then?
[06:56] <stranglerfish> the main thing i'm thinking is the accepted users line?
[06:57] <stranglerfish> is that supposed to be the windows username?
[06:57] <psychoticwarrior> adduser <user>
[06:57] <psychoticwarrior> to delete a use
[06:57] <psychoticwarrior> userdel <user>
[06:59] <stranglerfish> ?
[06:59] <stranglerfish> i know how to add users to my ubuntu laptop i'm dealing with something a bit diff here
[07:00] <psychoticwarrior> what are you experiecnces
[07:00] <psychoticwarrior> experiencing
[07:01] <stranglerfish> scroll up just a bit, i just described the issue
[07:01] <psychoticwarrior> hmm
[07:01] <psychoticwarrior> did you check iptables
[07:02] <psychoticwarrior> firewalls etc...
[07:02] <ducasse> stranglerfish: can you pastebin smb.conf?
[07:02] <Ben64> stranglerfish: location cannot be found seems to indicate you typing something incorrectly
[07:04] <ppang> i have also experienced these kind of issues..
[07:04] <stranglerfish> sure one sec
[07:04] <stranglerfish> https://pastebin.com/1rLF9hCx
[07:06] <psychoticwarrior> i dont see anything wrong with the code
[07:06] <psychoticwarrior> whats the ip address of the machine
[07:06] <psychoticwarrior> are you on the same subnet
[07:07] <stranglerfish> yeah both are 192.168.0.xxx
[07:07] <psychoticwarrior> okay thats 24 bit prefix
[07:07] <psychoticwarrior> i think
[07:07] <stranglerfish> does it matter that the windows laptop is connected with ethernet, ubuntu through wifi?
[07:07] <stranglerfish> cause i've had this work in the past with that being the case, so i feel it shouldn't
[07:08] <psychoticwarrior> no it shouldnt matter
[07:08] <psychoticwarrior> i doubt that it matters
[07:08] <psychoticwarrior> have you checked rulesets of firwalls?
[07:08] <psychoticwarrior> firewalls
[07:09] <ppang> psychoticwarrior: did they moved to nft ?
[07:09] <stranglerfish> i have not, i don't think i've ever made any firewall changes. at least not since this worked in the past?
[07:09] <psychoticwarrior> nft?
[07:09] <stranglerfish> not sure what i would check exactly
[07:09] <psychoticwarrior> iptables
[07:10] <psychoticwarrior> check your incoming connections on the destination machine
[07:12] <psychoticwarrior> so i see that you allow guest
[07:12] <psychoticwarrior> try logging into guest and try to print
[07:12] <stranglerfish> my windows laptop doesn't have a guest account
[07:13] <psychoticwarrior> shit im tired
[07:13] <psychoticwarrior> net user guest /active:yes
[07:13] <psychoticwarrior> i know that works for administrator
[07:13] <stranglerfish> k, i'm able to ping the ubuntu account from my windows laptop
[07:13] <psychoticwarrior> ok thats a start
[07:14] <stranglerfish> says access is denied
[07:14] <stranglerfish> but there isn't someone trying to access the windows laptop
[07:14] <stranglerfish> this is trying to access the shared ubuntu folder FROM windows
[07:14] <psychoticwarrior> try enabling the administrator account
[07:14] <thebigj> Hello people, I am trying to write blog post on How to restore your GRUB. I have very less in writing anything on GRUB. English is not my first language. I request if anything can proofread my blog post then it will be much more helpful.
[07:14] <thebigj> https://github.com/ultimatecoder/Blog/pull/20
[07:14] <stranglerfish> like i'm trying to create a shortcut to the ip that i just managed to ping
[07:14] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[07:15] <ducasse> thebigj: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, it's not really on-topic here
[07:15] <psychoticwarrior> yea try a shortcut
[07:16] <stranglerfish> that's what i'm doing
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> good
[07:16] <stranglerfish> like i'm creating a shortcut to \\pinged-ip\Share
[07:16] <stranglerfish> but when i click next, it hangs and then says
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> try \\pinged-ip\$C
[07:16] <stranglerfish> $C?
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> C drive
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> or
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> \\pinged-up\$ipc
[07:17] <stranglerfish> but i'm trying to access Ubuntu
[07:17] <stranglerfish> why would i put c drive?
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> og ok
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> yea true
[07:17] <stranglerfish> Ubuntu share, accessed from Windows
[07:17] <stranglerfish> By creating a shortcut to \\Ubuntu-IP\Share
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> try it
[07:17] <stranglerfish> that
[07:18] <stranglerfish> is what i'm trying dude
[07:18] <thebigj> ducasse: Okay. Thanks :)
[07:18] <stranglerfish> i feel like you didn't read my original comment about the issue
[07:18] <psychoticwarrior> yea im just tired man
[07:18] <BBMAsk> http://jumpfm.org/ - This can replace mc for file explorer
[07:18] <psychoticwarrior> trying to help you out
[07:18] <stranglerfish> no worries, i appreciate it just has been a lot of repeating so far
[07:20] <psychoticwarrior> yea i hear ya
[07:20] <stranglerfish> so the error it gives me is
[07:21] <stranglerfish> The file \\ubuntu-ip\Share cannot be found
[07:22] <ppang> thebigj: i can help though
[07:22] <ducasse> stranglerfish: have you restarted samba?
[07:22] <thebigj> ppang: Great. I will much appriciate if you are finding any bug.
[07:23] <stranglerfish> yeah
[07:23] <thebigj> ppang: problems
[07:23] <stranglerfish> sudo service smbd restart, right?
[07:26] <psychoticwarrior> yes
[07:26] <psychoticwarrior> sudo systemctl smbd restart
[07:26] <psychoticwarrior> i think that should work
[07:26] <psychoticwarrior> that might be the wrong command
[07:27] <stranglerfish> i tried sudo systemctl restart smbd
[07:27] <stranglerfish> that worked
[07:27] <stranglerfish> but
[07:27] <psychoticwarrior>  try /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[07:27] <psychoticwarrior> that should work
[07:28] <stranglerfish> k it's been restarted
[07:28] <stranglerfish> still not found
[07:28] <psychoticwarrior> damn
[07:28] <stranglerfish> does it matter that when i go to "Network" in my file explorer on Windows I don't see my ubuntu laptop?
[07:28] <stranglerfish> i'm able to ping it
[07:28] <psychoticwarrior> do you get an icmp reply when you send a echo
[07:28] <stranglerfish> but like, when i start typing the ip when creating a shortcut it doesn't show up in the dropdown
[07:29] <stranglerfish> icmp?
[07:29] <psychoticwarrior> does it respond with a ping
[07:29] <stranglerfish> i've pinged it, that worked
[07:29] <psychoticwarrior> ok good
[07:29] <ducasse> stranglerfish: restart nmbd as well
[07:29] <psychoticwarrior> try iptables --flush
[07:30] <stranglerfish> ducasse: with "sudo service nmbd restart" right?
[07:30] <ducasse> yep
[07:31] <psychoticwarrior> try /etc/init.d/nmbd start
[07:31] <stranglerfish> that did not fix the issue :(
[07:31] <psychoticwarrior> try /etc/init.d/nmbd restart
[07:31] <psychoticwarrior> damn
[07:32] <psychoticwarrior> what does it say
[07:32] <stranglerfish> same thing
[07:33] <stranglerfish> both are restarted
[07:33] <psychoticwarrior> and that is...
[07:33] <psychoticwarrior> try iptables --flush
[07:33] <stranglerfish> that when i try to create the shortcut, it hangs for about 15 seconds then says location not found
[07:33] <psychoticwarrior> whats the destinations ip address
[07:33] <stranglerfish> k, i did that
[07:33] <ducasse> stranglerfish: can the ubuntu machine see the share if you browse for it?
[07:34] <psychoticwarrior> yea can it?
[07:34] <psychoticwarrior> !!
[07:37] <psychoticwarrior> yea screw udev i had to disable it
[07:37] <psychoticwarrior> pain in the ass
[07:40] <stranglerfish> that messed up my internet, had to reboot
[07:40] <psychoticwarrior> what messed it up
[07:40] <psychoticwarrior> ?
[07:40] <stranglerfish> iptable --flush
[07:41] <psychoticwarrior> damn
[07:41] <psychoticwarrior> usually it doesnt
[07:41] <stranglerfish> s'all good, i'm back
[07:42] <psychoticwarrior> back like a heart attack
[07:43] <stranglerfish> hope not
[07:46] <stranglerfish> ducasse: any other suggestions?
[07:49] <stranglerfish> like am i doing the wrong ip or something?
[07:49] <stranglerfish> i'm grabbing inet addr from wlp2s0 when i type ifconfig
[07:49] <stranglerfish> this is annoying, it should work :(
[07:49] <psychoticwarrior> i know
[07:49] <ducasse> did you try if the ubuntu machine can see the share when you browse?
[07:49] <psychoticwarrior> im not sure why it isnt working
[07:50] <stranglerfish> the share is on the ubuntu machine
[07:50] <ducasse> i know that
[07:50] <stranglerfish> not sure i follow then
[07:51] <ducasse> try to connect to the share over the network, from a file browser for example
[07:51] <psychoticwarrior> yea go to the files app
[07:52] <stranglerfish> on ubuntu, when i click "network" in my file browser it just shows a folder called "Windows Network"
[07:52] <psychoticwarrior> and type \\ip_addr\share
[07:52] <stranglerfish> which when i try to open, says unable to access location
[07:52] <stranglerfish> ah yeah, i tried that on windows psychoticwarrior it did nothing
[07:52] <stranglerfish> tried it from Run as well
[07:52] <psychoticwarrior> shit
[07:52] <psychoticwarrior> sucks man
[07:53] <psychoticwarrior> what version of windows is it?
[07:53] <stranglerfish> 10
[07:54] <psychoticwarrior> https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/31136-samba-shares-dont-show-up-windows-10-network.html
[07:54] <stranglerfish> when i did "sudo mount.cifs //WindowsPC/Share/home/rufus/Share -o user=rufus"
[07:55] <stranglerfish> was WindowsPC supposed to be a specific name or was that fine?
[07:55] <psychoticwarrior> i guess thats fine
[07:55] <chindy> I have  3 network devices wheni type "ip link" lo, enp0s31f6 and wlp3s0, which of these is the LAN and which is the WLAN device?
[07:55] <psychoticwarrior> wlp3s0 is wireless
[07:55] <psychoticwarrior> enp0s31f6 should be LAN
[07:56] <ducasse> stranglerfish: 'windowspc' should be the hostname you are trying to connect to, or the ip address
[07:56] <stranglerfish> fudge
[07:56] <ducasse> stranglerfish: you also need to put the destination there
[07:57] <stranglerfish> k so i think i fudged somethign up along the way, check this output:
[07:57] <stranglerfish> https://pastebin.com/Jy4ae0zf
[07:57] <stranglerfish> that's probs the part i'm messing up
[07:57] <ducasse> ...and make it \\ip.address\Share
[07:58] <stranglerfish> put what where, exactly?
[08:00] <arahael> ducasse: Backslash is an escape character, usually.
[08:00] <arahael> ducasse: Use forward slashes.
[08:00] <arahael> ducasse: Like $DIETY intended
[08:01] <stranglerfish> ducasse: you lost me :p
[08:01] <stranglerfish> could you clarify?
[08:02] <stranglerfish> ugh i'm dumb, one second
[08:02] <ducasse> arahael: sorry, i'm multitasking and not thinking straight :)
[08:02] <ducasse> bbl
[08:03] <arahael> ducasse: No worries, it's weird how windows distinguishes them like that.
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> /ip_addr/share
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> /
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> /
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> /
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> two //
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> shit
[08:07] <stranglerfish> k i'm starting over
[08:07] <stranglerfish> https://www.howtogeek.com/176471/how-to-share-files-between-windows-and-linux/
[08:07] <stranglerfish> i'm trying from the start of "Option Two"
[08:09] <stranglerfish> so the main part i'm iffy on
[08:09] <stranglerfish> is the valid users line
[08:12] <psychoticwarrior> did u fix the issue?
[08:12] <stranglerfish> nope
[08:13] <stranglerfish> see this example:
[08:13] <stranglerfish> https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/xwls_11.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+ws+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.PiUa5Vtvqm.png
[08:13] <stranglerfish> the valid users line, is that supposed to be my Windows user?
[08:14] <psychoticwarrior> choose the user that is valid
[08:14] <psychoticwarrior> and type that into the system
[08:18] <stranglerfish> k so the issue just seems to be that
[08:18] <psychoticwarrior> what happened
[08:18] <stranglerfish> the laptops both are not picking each other up as locations on the network?
[08:18] <stranglerfish> like, i'm trying to add my ubuntu laptop as a user for permissions on Windows
[08:19] <stranglerfish> and it's not showing my ubuntu laptop as a location, just the windows one
[08:19] <stranglerfish> not sure if that makes sense
[08:19] <psychoticwarrior> yea im not sure how to help you
[08:20] <psychoticwarrior> it sounds kinda messed up
[08:20] <stranglerfish> ok hang on i think
[08:20] <stranglerfish> i might be close
[08:20] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[08:23] <stranglerfish> alright, so you know the tutorial i'm using?
[08:23] <stranglerfish> https://www.howtogeek.com/176471/how-to-share-files-between-windows-and-linux/
[08:23] <stranglerfish> there's a part where it says to type this:
[08:23] <stranglerfish> mkdir ~/Desktop/Windows-Share sudo mount.cifs //WindowsPC/Share /home/geek/Desktop/Windows-Share -o user=geek
[08:23] <stranglerfish> i'm doing something wrong there
[08:23] <stranglerfish> this is what i'm trying:
[08:23] <stranglerfish> sudo mount.cifs //Omid-HP/C:\Users\ovazi\Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=rufus
[08:24] <stranglerfish> but the issue might be me doing "user=rufus" because on Windows I don't have a user named that under permissions. I just set permissions for Everyone
[08:25] <psychoticwarrior> good thats what it say sto do
[08:25] <psychoticwarrior> says to do
[08:25] <stranglerfish> so, that line is right?
[08:25] <stranglerfish> switching from / to \ just seemed wrong to me
[08:25] <psychoticwarrior> yes i believe so
[08:25] <akik> stranglerfish: at least C: and the backlashes look wrong. try using C\$ in place of C:
[08:26] <stranglerfish> so like this:
[08:26] <psychoticwarrior> it should be $C
[08:26] <psychoticwarrior> C$
[08:26] <psychoticwarrior> something like that
[08:26] <stranglerfish> sudo mount.cifs //Omid-HP/C$Users\ovazi\Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=rufus
[08:26] <stranglerfish> ?
[08:26] <AwesomeAsh> where can i get help on seamonkey and thunderbird ... where there are people who talk not just lurk?
[08:29] <stranglerfish> k like, the line that i'm doing
[08:31] <ducasse> stranglerfish: you can't use backslashes, replace them with forward slashes
[08:31] <Squarism> will ubuntu 17.04 be upgradable to 17.10?
[08:31] <stranglerfish> sudo mount.cifs //Omid-HP/C:/Users/ovazi/Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=ovazi\
[08:31] <stranglerfish> that's what i'm currently attempting, minus that last \ at the end
[08:31] <ducasse> stranglerfish: also, is Omid-HP resolvable?
[08:32] <ducasse> Squarism: yes
[08:32] <stranglerfish> how do i determine that?
[08:32] <ducasse> 'ping Omid-HP'
[08:32] <stranglerfish> nope, not working
[08:32] <ducasse> so use the ip address
[08:32] <stranglerfish> wait yeah
[08:33] <stranglerfish> just ran it for like 10 seconds, 0% packet loss
[08:33] <akik> stranglerfish: youmwent back to C:
[08:33] <stranglerfish> yeah, cause C$ wasn't working and ducasse is telling me to replace them with forward
[08:34] <stranglerfish> sudo mount.cifs //Omid-HP/C$/Users/ovazi/Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=ovazi
[08:34] <stranglerfish> is also not working
[08:34] <ducasse> i didn't say to replace the $
[08:34] <stranglerfish> ok my bad
[08:34] <stranglerfish> btw it tells me
[08:34] <stranglerfish> mount error(115): Operation now in progress
[08:34] <stranglerfish> each failed attempt
[08:35] <Woodpecker> I just installed a library, libwt, and am trying to find out how to  import the libraries into my qt project. I dont know where to find them though.
[08:35] <akik> stranglerfish: $ is a special char in linux. try C\$
[08:35] <stranglerfish> that hasn't helped either
[08:36] <stranglerfish> for the username
[08:36] <stranglerfish> i'm using the name that shows up under Users, ovazi
[08:36] <stranglerfish> i normally don't have a password, though when I changed the comptuer name to Omid-HP i had to restart and it went back to requiring my hotmail password to log in
[08:36] <stranglerfish> so i'm trying no password, + the microsoft password
[08:37] <marahin> Hello! I'm running 17.04 here, i have a load aveage of 0.7 0.8 0.56, and in htop none of my cores exceed 25% load. The issue is even though I'm completely idling the fan is still spinning loudly. I'm running X270 thinkpad.
[08:38] <marahin> Any idea how to make the fan trigger only on certain temperatures (because I do not think that this is the issue) or loads?
[08:38] <stranglerfish> ok 1 sec
[08:39] <stranglerfish> k so i know i have the right password, just confirmed
[08:39] <Chaser> Woodpecker: dpkg -L libwt should show the locations it would have installed. You can also check ldconfig -v
[08:39] <Woodpecker> Chaser: thanks, will try that.
[08:39] <stranglerfish> how do i see my ip on windows? i'm doing ipconfig but..
[08:39] <stranglerfish> under Ethernet adapter Ethernet:
[08:39] <ducasse> marahin: you might want to try the fancontrol package
[08:39] <stranglerfish> i'm just seeing 192.168.0.192 as the ip
[08:40] <marahin> ducasse: just installed it, what now? :)
[08:40] <ducasse> marahin: read the fine manual? :) i don't use it myself, sorry.
[08:41] <stranglerfish> OK I GOT A NEW OUTPUT
[08:41] <stranglerfish> now it just says moutn error(13): Permission denied
[08:41] <stranglerfish> so i did something right that time lol
[08:41] <stranglerfish> but also something wrong
[08:41] <psychoticwarrior> yes kinda each way
[08:42] <stranglerfish> am trying this:
[08:42] <stranglerfish> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.192/C\$/Users/ovazi/Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=ovazi
[08:42] <stranglerfish> getting Permission denied
[08:42] <stranglerfish> is that something i didn't set properly on Windows, or i'm entering something wrong in that line / in my password?
[08:42] <marahin> ducasse: yeah, I am sad to say it and I find it ridiculous, but I also find my fan issue ridiculous (as it's 2017!), but I dont have time to read manual of a program that is supposed to help me, the end user, reduce the fan speed.
[08:47] <psychoticwarrior> stranglerfish did you fix the issue?
[08:47] <ducasse> stranglerfish: anyway, isn't what you're doing now the opposite of what you originally were trying to resolve?
[08:47] <stranglerfish> yeah, i gave up on that
[08:48] <stranglerfish> this tutorial shows how to do both
[08:48] <stranglerfish> so i said fudge this and started on trying to access a share from windows
[08:48] <stranglerfish> both options have steps where something just seems a bit off, in this case i'm wondering if i'm getting the username right
[08:48] <stranglerfish> like when i set the permissions under Security in the second step, I just set them for "Everyone"
[08:50] <stranglerfish> wondering if that's where things are messing up?
[08:52] <ducasse> a) is c:/Users/ovazi/Music a valid share, and b) are you using the right password?
[08:53] <stranglerfish> yeah, I'm sharing that user's music folder for sure
[08:53] <stranglerfish> and i double checked the password that I login with, and i'm using that
[08:53] <stranglerfish> sudo mount.cifs //192.168.0.192/C\$/Users/ovazi/Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=ovazi
[08:53] <stranglerfish> Password for ovazi@//192.168.0.192/C$/Users/ovazi/Music:  ********
[08:53] <stranglerfish> and it tells me permission denied
[08:54] <stranglerfish> so i'm wondering if it's cause i set the permission for Everyone rather than ovazi specifically? since that didn't show up in the list
[08:57] <akik> stranglerfish: do you use a password if you connect to that share from a windows machine?
[08:57] <psychoticwarrior> sudo mount.cifs //192.168.0.192/$C/Users/ovazi/Music
[08:57] <psychoticwarrior> try that
[08:57] <stranglerfish> i don't have another windows machine to try that out
[08:58] <stranglerfish> that gave me "no such device or address name
[08:58] <stranglerfish> like at this point it's a permission issue
[08:59] <psychoticwarrior> try using root
[08:59] <stranglerfish> i have been this whole time
[08:59] <AwesomeAsh_> any one here know their way around seamonkey
[08:59] <psychoticwarrior> oh
[09:02] <stranglerfish> i'm almost ready to call it a night :(
[09:03] <psychoticwarrior> i hear ya, computer problems are frustrating
[09:03] <psychoticwarrior> theres always another day
[09:03] <stranglerfish> yeah that and it's 5am and no sleep is bad for my mental
[09:03] <AwesomeAsh_> argh
[09:03] <AwesomeAsh_> I disconnected myself from hexchat
[09:03] <psychoticwarrior> its 4am near me
[09:03] <stranglerfish> yeah i just don't like giving up cause then i have to re-explain the issue tomorrow and start all over lol
[09:03] <akik> stranglerfish: try creating a new local user in windows and then set a local password for it
[09:03] <AwesomeAsh_> command for reconnecting?
[09:04] <stranglerfish> akik: windows 10 seems to only allow creating accounts with microsoft accounts i think?
[09:04] <akik> stranglerfish: nope
[09:05] <stranglerfish> how would i go about that then?
[09:05] <stranglerfish> oh nevermind i see
[09:05] <akik> it's a choice you can make
[09:06] <stranglerfish> yeah i got it
[09:06] <stranglerfish> trying that out now
[09:07] <stranglerfish> omg
[09:07] <stranglerfish> i think
[09:07] <stranglerfish> I GOT IT
[09:07] <stranglerfish> I FUCKING
[09:07] <stranglerfish> GOT IT! THANK YOU
[09:08] <stranglerfish> sorry about the profanity, i got excited
[09:08] <akik> nice
[09:08] <stranglerfish> so
[09:08] <stranglerfish> I WAS DERPING THIS ENTIRE TIME
[09:11] <stranglerfish> the issue probably had more to do with it being Network Path: \\OMID-HP\Music, so the whole C$\User stuff was probs messing it up
[09:12] <psychoticwarrior> could be
[09:12] <psychoticwarrior> im leaving soon to get an ice coffee at starbucks
[09:12] <stranglerfish> i could test it out, but at this point i am just glad i got it working. such a painful process just to avoid having to keep unplugging an external drive to transfer music XD
[09:12] <psychoticwarrior> i'll try to solve your problem soon
[09:12] <stranglerfish> nah it's solved
[09:12] <psychoticwarrior> what did you do?
[09:13] <psychoticwarrior> i hope i helped you
[09:13] <stranglerfish> i think i was derping with the path to the share, + i tried creating a local user and password and using those. so it was one of those two, not sure exactly
[09:13] <stranglerfish> thanks
[09:13] <psychoticwarrior> no problem
[09:14] <psychoticwarrior> glad it works
[09:14] <akik> stranglerfish: so what was the final path you used?
[09:14] <psychoticwarrior> what did you exactly do to get it to work?
[09:14] <psychoticwarrior> yea what was it
[09:15] <stranglerfish> the final commmand that worked was this:
[09:15] <stranglerfish> sudo mount.cifs //192.168.0.192/Music /home/rufus/Share/ -o user=omid
[09:15] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[09:15] <psychoticwarrior> so none of our suggestions helped?
[09:15] <stranglerfish> it was probably the pathing that was the issue, given that's the most significant change there :P yeah i think i was just compleeetely derping this whole time, with the network path
[09:16] <psychoticwarrior> yea network path fucks things up\
[09:16] <akik> stranglerfish: but you used the local user account on windows?
[09:16] <stranglerfish> yup, but i did both the changes at the same time so i dunno which one actually fixed it. i could test out which one but am tired
[09:16] <psychoticwarrior> yea im going to starbucks soon
[09:16] <psychoticwarrior> stayed up all night
[09:17] <akik> stranglerfish: i mean is omid the new local user account?
[09:17] <stranglerfish> yes :)
[09:18] <psychoticwarrior> its good it works
[09:19] <stranglerfish> alright, finally got easier music transfers set up. now i made a huge mistake and actually put on music
[09:20] <stranglerfish> which essentially makes me high, i'm not gonna be able to sleep -_-
[09:20] <psychoticwarrior> i personaly like ssh better then smbd
[09:20] <stranglerfish> even for transferring music?
[09:21] <stranglerfish> i've only ever used ssh for like, small files when coding
[09:21] <stranglerfish> maybe i'll be back tomorrow to bug you guys about setting up ssh ;)
[09:21] <Lachezar> Hey all. Is it possible to set up an IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnel with NetworkManager? I put a '/etc/network/interfaces.d/tun-he', and it works with ifup/ifdown, is it possible to set taht in NetworkManager?
[09:22] <psychoticwarrior> yea ill help you out with ssh
[09:23] <stranglerfish> alright, i'll be back on tomorrow then probs :D goodnight for now
[09:23] <psychoticwarrior> good night man
[09:24] <krzyzaq> hello all
[09:24] <psychoticwarrior> hello
[09:24] <krzyzaq> I have an issue finding in internet an answear for my problem - how to allow AD group users to login to the xrdp on ubuntu
[09:25] <krzyzaq> can someone help?
[09:26] <psychoticwarrior> i dont really know much about xrdp
[09:26] <akik> krzyzaq: ad has an ldap service. you can use sssd to configure the client to use that ldap directory
[09:27] <krzyzaq> i've already have an integration via samba/winbind
[09:27] <akik> krzyzaq: in this i mean the xrdp server to be a ldap client
[09:28] <akik> krzyzaq: so you get the user ids already to the xrdp server?
[09:28] <krzyzaq> and the users will use windows mstsc to connect to the ubuntu xrdp server]
[09:28] <krzyzaq> I can logon with local and domain users to xrdp
[09:31] <MNNCP> Hi. HP ProBook 455 G1. On gnome 3 - the display are detected - but  there is 2 card - and when additional Display are connect - auto detection switching between card nor Monitors.
[09:31] <MNNCP>  And when i want set mirror of the Display - the results it's One Display work at one time, not 2 in the same time.
[09:31] <MNNCP> It's a bug in auto configuration Xorg server software - or gnome display configuration of Gnome control Center  ?
[09:43] <_Timon> (16.04) Hi, I updated my kernel from 4.4.0-92 to 4.10-0-14. But "sensors" is no longer working correctly because coretemp.ko is not located in /lib/modules/4.10****/kernel/drivers/hwmon. However on kernel 4.4 it is located there.
[09:44] <_Timon> How do I go about installing the coretemp kernel module into the new kernel?
[09:46] <_Timon> Actually, the /lib/modules/4.10.0***/kernel/drivers/hwmon folder is missing completely.
[09:47] <ducasse> _Timon: it should be in that directory, is the linux-image-extra-* package installed?
[09:47] <Lachezar> _Timon: linux-image-extra-4.10.0-32-generic: /lib/modules/4.10.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon
[09:50] <_Timon> hmm, unable to locate package, it can only find the 4.4 kernel package.
[09:52] <_Timon> nvm, it was installing from our local mirror that is running a couple years behind.
[09:52] <Lachezar> _Timon: hmm²: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kernel/linux-image-extra-4.10.0-32-generic
[09:53] <_Timon> yeah, I'll get it like that, thanks for the direct link.
[09:53] <Lachezar> _Timon: apt-get update?
[09:53] <ducasse> _Timon: you need the package for your kernel version
[09:53] <Squarism> What is an application that is "allways-on-top" on your screen called?
[09:53] <Lachezar> _Timon: I have *very* bad experience manually installing these packages. I *strongly* recommend that you check your /etc/apt/sources* and apt-get update
[09:54] <_Timon> Lachezar: can't do that sadly.
[09:54] <_Timon> Thanks for helping out either way.
[09:55] <Lachezar> _Timon: bummer. condolences
[09:55] <_Timon> older kernels break our 3x gtx titan setup and new kernels also break it
[09:55] <Squarism> ...or something that slides in when you press mouse against screen edge
[09:55] <_Timon> I'm holding ground for now
[09:56] <Lachezar> _Timon: That's OK. You can still make an apt-get update, and install 'apt-get install linux*4.10*'
[09:56] <Lachezar> _Timon: Just do not do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:04] <vush> hi there! im happy i switched to ubuntu 17.04, but coming from mate (on mint) im also not too statisfied, since things work too differently
[10:05] <vush> i need to monitor cpu and gpu temps in my taskbar. but i cannot even right click it, also many settings seem to be hidden or not prebuilt into unity
[10:06] <vush> i heard ubuntu 17.10 will change its gui
[10:06] <ducasse> vush: learning unity now might be a bad choice, 17.10 is soon coming out based on gnome3
[10:07] <Lachezar> vush: You might want to try Xubuntu.
[10:07] <vush> alright let me check that compared to kde and xubuntu
[10:08] <ducasse> or ubuntu mate, if mate is what you're used to
[10:08] <vush> not really like used to. but thanks :)
[10:12] <vush> slick! gnome3!
[10:14] <vush> well alright i dont care then. thanks for your guys' reccomendations
[10:19] <thebigj> Hello people, I am in Ubuntu 16.04. I am facing problem when I try to use 'grep' command or press `tab` button to autocomplete the word. This it is showing in my terminal https://dpaste.de/jTHo/raw
[10:19] <thebigj> I didn't remember, since when this error is coming in my workstation.
[10:19] <thebigj> Recently, in past three days.
[10:20] <thebigj> I have already tried uncommenting "--color=auto" option added in my "~/.bashrc" file bydefult. But it is giving the same error.
[10:20] <thebigj> Any idea?
[10:22] <vush> just for my understanding, because i probably cannot help you: whenever you type grep, it sorta auto runs --color=auto?
[10:24] <vlt> thebigj: `which grep`
[10:25] <vlt> thebigj: This looks like BusyBox.
[10:25] <mezod> hello, i created a .sh and dropped it into cron.daily, do I need to do something else for it to get executed?
[10:25] <psychoticwarrior> yea you can add it to /etc/init.d
[10:25] <thebigj> vlt: I am in Ubuntu 16.04.
[10:25] <psychoticwarrior> and then execute it
[10:25] <thebigj> firing 'grep' command
[10:26] <mezod> I can or I should?
[10:26] <ducasse> mezod: just make sure it's executable, and it will work
[10:26] <vlt> thebigj: What does `which grep` tell you?
[10:27] <mezod> ducasse: I made sure it's executable but it hasn't worked (it's been a couple of days now)
[10:27] <mezod> ducasse: do you know how can I know what went wrong?
[10:28] <ducasse> mezod: are you sure the script works under the cron environment?
[10:28] <mezod> ducasse: no, how can I make sure it works under the cron environment?
[10:28] <thebigj> vlt: "/home/my_user/bin/grep"
[10:29] <ducasse> mezod: what is the script supposed to do?
[10:29] <vlt> thebigj: That seems to be your problem right there.
[10:29] <mezod> ducasse: it makes a mysqldump of a database in a different server and gzips the resulting dump
[10:30] <thebigj> vlt: What it should tell? '/bin/grep'?
[10:30] <ducasse> mezod: does it rely on anything in your user environment, like variables etc?
[10:31] <mezod> no
[10:31] <geirha> thebigj: you probably have bash-completion installed, and its custom completion for the grep command probably expects GNU grep to be available, but you've put busybox grep before GNU grep in your PATH
[10:31] <vlt> thebigj: Yes. What does that file there in your home dir do?
[10:32] <ducasse> mezod: ok, check syslog for messages from when cron tries to run the script
[10:33] <mezod> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/yE4bc5VP this is how it looks like
[10:34] <thebigj> vlt: Is it normal to have bin folder under your home ? For example '/home/my_user/bin'?
[10:34] <vlt> thebigj: That is extremely rare when you just use stock ubuntu.
[10:35] <mezod> i understand daily cron jobs are run at 00:00
[10:36] <ducasse> mezod: isn't there a mechanism to randomize that a bit? i don't recall.
[10:36] <akik> mezod: so mysqldump works creating that file but it's not gzipped?
[10:36] <mezod> akik: no, nothing works
[10:36] <mezod> it's like ths .sh isn't run
[10:37] <akik> mezod: add a #!/bin/bash as the first line
[10:37] <ducasse> mezod: is there a shebang
[10:37] <thebigj> vlt: I am using I3wm but I tried checking in Dash. It is equally broken there too.
[10:37] <akik> mezod: the cron.daily scripts are run as root, you need to use absolute paths
[10:37] <mezod> oh
[10:38] <mezod> ducasse: can't see anything weird happening in the last 10 hours
[10:40] <mezod> ducasse: is it possible that syslog deletes lines older than 10h?
[10:41] <ducasse> no, logrotate handles rotating logs
[10:45] <vlt> thebigj: What does “broken” men here?
[10:45] <vlt> *mean
[10:47] <thebigj> vlt: Sorry for being unclear. The command 'grep' is giving exact errored response which I am getting while running I3 wm.
[10:47] <psychoticwarrior> grep sucks
[10:47] <thebigj> vlt: Am I clear this time?
[10:47] <thebigj> psychoticwarrior: :D
[10:47] <vlt> thebigj: Don’t run that!
[10:48] <vlt> thebigj: Try to move that ~/bin directory out of the way.
[10:48] <thebigj> vlt: Which /home/my_user/bin one?
[10:48] <ducasse> or just unset the executable bit on ~/bin/grep, in case there are other things in there you need
[10:48] <mezod> hmm I can't really find anything on the logs, I'll try to change it to absolute paths and see if it works
[10:49] <vlt> thebigj: Yes. “~” is a shortcut for your home dir.
[10:49] <ducasse> mezod: also add a shebang
[10:49] <thebigj> vlt: Thanks for telling me that '~' is the shortcut for my home dir :p
[10:49] <thebigj> ducasse: Unset means remove?
[10:50] <ducasse> thebigj: chmod -x ~/bin/grep
[10:50] <mezod> ducasse: thanks
[10:50] <vlt> thebigj: And then I’d recommend to find out where the ~/bin actually comes from.
[10:50] <mezod> akik: thanks :p
[10:51] <thebigj> ducasse: Did that and grep is working again
[10:51] <thebigj> ducasse: I think now it is taking /bin/grep rather than ~/bin/grep right?
[10:51] <thebigj> ?
[10:52] <ducasse> yes, confirm with 'which grep'
[10:52] <thebigj> vlt: How can I find where the ~/bin is actually coming from?
[10:52] <thebigj> ducasse: "grep is aliased to `grep --color=auto'
[10:52] <thebigj> ducasse: Output of 'which grep'
[10:53] <thebigj> ducasse: 'which grep' tells '/bin/grep'
[10:54] <thebigj> ducasse: Should i copy /bin/grep to ~/bin/grep ?
[10:54] <ducasse> thebigj: is there anything else in ~/bin?
[10:55] <thebigj> ducasse: https://dpaste.de/aiWB/raw
[10:56] <ducasse> ah, lookie here...
[10:56] <ducasse> vlt: what on earth have you been doing? ;)
[10:57] <ducasse> thebigj: ^
[10:57] <ducasse> sorry, vlt
[10:57] <thebigj> ducasse: Not sure what I did. Will you explain bit more, it doesn't make any sense to me.
[10:57] <thebigj> ducasse: Sorry, for asking too basic questions but I am not aware, waht my ~/bin should represent.
[10:58] <ducasse> thebigj: i think you should do 'mv ~/bin ~/bin.old'
[10:59] <ducasse> thebigj: you have busybox in there, which will make all those commands overridden by the busybox versions
[10:59] <akik> thebigj: you've replaced a lot of ubuntu commands with those of busybox
[10:59] <akik> although isn't $HOME/bin at the end of $PATH ?
[11:00] <ducasse> nope, first
[11:00] <akik> interesting
[11:00] <thebigj> akik: Oh, not sure what I did.
[11:01] <thebigj> akik: I think boot-repair might have did this
[11:01] <akik> thebigj: did you run the command ducasse pasted?
[11:01] <thebigj> akik: Running.
[11:02] <thebigj> akik: did.
[11:02] <ducasse> that should give you a sane userland again
[11:03] <thebigj> ducasse: Okay. Now, will you explain some more reference?
[11:03] <thebigj> ducasse: I am not from where this busybox came?
[11:03] <thebigj> ducasse: I have never installed anything like that. I thought it might be coming with Ubuntu
[11:03] <ducasse> i don't know where you got it, but it's definitely not there by default
[11:04] <thebigj> ducasse: okay.
[11:04] <thebigj> Did virtualbox use that?
[11:04] <ducasse> no, don't see why it would
[11:04] <thebigj> I have recently installed few iso in my virtualbox including ubuntu 16.04
[11:04] <thebigj> okay.
[11:04] <thebigj> Then I think boot-repair might be a reason for this
[11:05] <psychoticwarrior> super grub 2 disk is the bets
[11:05] <psychoticwarrior> best
[11:05] <psychoticwarrior> boot repair kinda sucks
[11:05] <ducasse> thebigj: busybox is used on routers for example, where there is no room for a full userland
[11:05] <thebigj> ducasse: Okay. I googled and landed on this https://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[11:05] <thebigj> psychoticwarrior: Okay.
[11:06] <akik> thebigj: you can use "stat ~/bin.old/busybox" to see file its modify time
[11:07] <akik> to get an idea when it was created
[11:08] <thebigj> akik: Interesting, Modify is 2017-05-23 :D
[11:09] <thebigj> Change is '2017-08-26'
[11:09] <thebigj> Birth is "-" <- Now what that means?
[11:09] <akik> ok maybe it's that field if your problems started just recently
[11:10] <thebigj> akik: The problem encounted firstly when ducasse was helping me in the process of resoring my GRUB
[11:10] <thebigj> Before that It was working correctly
[11:11] <akik> thebigj: the big question now is, if you don't know who installed that piece of sw, should you reinstall ubuntu?
[11:11] <thebigj> akik: I will not re-install Ubuntu for sure. :'D
[11:12] <ducasse> thebigj: it was most likely something you did before you came here for help, you said you "tried some stuff i found online"...
[11:17] <psychoticwarrior> anybody else tired
[11:17] <psychoticwarrior> i stayed up all night
[11:22] <pinux> whats ur timezone
[11:28] <psychoticwarrior> central time
[11:45] <Mikaze> Greetings!
[11:45] <psychoticwarrior> whats up Mikaze
[11:45] <Mikaze> Diddley.  Just bored and surfing.
[12:15] <psychoticwarrior> who's up?
[12:22] <auser_> Hello everyone
[12:22] <auser_> how can i fix such error
[12:22] <auser_> openssl: error hile loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[12:22] <auser_> rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.2:
[12:22] <auser_> usr/bin/openssl: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:22] <auser_> WARNING: Skipping duplicate certificate ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
[12:23] <auser_> basically openssl has a problem, I tried  sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' Then show in a pastie ' sudo apt -f install '
[12:23] <auser_> didn't work, can someone explain to me what needs to be done
[12:29] <Lachezar> auser_: Try reinstalling libssl* package
[12:30] <auser_> how can i do this Lachezar ?
[12:30] <auser_> like exact steps so i don't cause any problems, hopefully.
[12:31] <Lachezar> auser_: first: dpkg -l 'libssl*'
[12:31] <Lachezar> auser_: look for the ii packages
[12:32] <Lachezar> auser_: then: apt-get install --reinstall <the names of the installed libssl* packages>
[12:33] <auser_> okay shall try this, but seems outta luck, my server got suspended atm for exceeding 50 TB per month. I will update soon, thanks.
[12:33] <auser_> I've googled it and many folks were speaking about doing sysmlinks but I don't know how to go that either..
[12:34] <Lachezar> auser_: These commands *should* not download anything.
[12:34] <Lachezar> auser_: That is the libssl* packages *should* have been downloaded
[12:35] <auser_> oh thanks, until my server comes back online, I won't be able to do those commands, but I will update when I'm back there.
[12:36] <auser_> I believe I've tried something similar and it still didn't work, hopefully this will fix it.
[12:36] <Lachezar> auser_: Also. When doing 'dpkg -l' look at packages that are not status 'ii' or 'un'. Those may need fixing.
[12:39] <auser_> thanks, I will try this soon, hopefully.  May I know what install --reinstall <Their Names> do ?
[12:41] <SimonNL> reinstall I guess.
[12:42] <Lachezar> auser_: It installs a package, but if it exists it performs a 'remove+install' instead
[12:44] <SimonNL> mmm partly correct I was
[12:48] <tomeaton17> I am having problems with my sound, the test sound only works on the HDMI output and not on laptop speaker or headphone output
[12:52] <vush> hey there, what is a 'default' downloader like tucan or jdownloader for ubuntu?
[12:53] <tomeaton17> Actually, sound is just not working for my headphones.
[12:54] <tblake3> tomeaton17, can you confirm the headphones work with a different source, ie. your phone or ipod?
[12:54] <tomeaton17> tblake3: yes they work on my phone.
[12:56] <tblake3> tomeaton17, beyond that I got nothing. I've learned the hard way that sometimes the stupid fix is the right fix.
[12:57] <cruncher> hi. I have 14.04 on a machine, but after each login i get a messagebox if i want to upgrade to 16.04, and it has 3 buttons, dont upgrade, ask later, and upgrade. So its logical that on dont upgrade i should not be asked again.
[12:57] <cruncher> How can i disable the askign after each login?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:58] <cfhowlett> cruncher, yes, to into system > sofware updater > settings > notify me of new ubuntu version : never
[12:58] <azidhaka> cruncher: in settings, software updater, notify about new version
[12:59] <cruncher> thank you both, but lol...now that i pressed the button on the KVM, there is no mouse/keyboard... :D
[13:03] <vush> found what i need. pyLoad
[13:09] <cruncher> i cant see any usb (*hci) module loaded in 14.04.. is that normal?
[13:09] <cruncher> (using lsmod)
[13:11] <cruncher> aah, i see... its not compiled as a module in the kernel
[13:12] <cruncher> is that general ubuntu philosophy? not to do modules, but directly into kernel? (unlike debian)
[13:53] <Krapulat> Hello, when I’m trying to start nginx I get: “nginx: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.0.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory”. I have installed openssl version: “OpenSSL 1.1.0f  25 May 2017”
[13:54] <leftyfb> Krapulat: what version of ubuntu? Did you install nginx from the official repo's?
[13:56] <leftyfb> Krapulat: sudo apt-get install libssl1.0.0
[13:58] <Krapulat> leftyfb: libssl1.0.0 is already the newest version (1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.8).
[13:58] <leftyfb> Krapulat: what version of ubuntu and nginx?
[14:00] <Krapulat> leftyfb: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS and I can’t find nginx because of error
[14:00] <brainwash> the package installs libssl.so.1.0.0
[14:00] <leftyfb> Krapulat: apt-cache policy nginx
[14:01] <brainwash> maybe a simple symlink can fix that
[14:01] <leftyfb> Krapulat: apt-cache policy nginx|grep Installed
[14:01] <Krapulat> leftyfb: none. I suppose I installed it manually
[14:02] <leftyfb> Krapulat: Install from the supported method
[14:05] <LordDragon> hey all
[14:06] <rmk1> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, fully updated. I am having this annoying issue that fwupd is taking two CPUs for hours and hours. Any workarounds?
[14:06] <LordDragon> i want to get how much space files of a specific name are taking up
[14:06] <LordDragon> the filenames have dates
[14:06] <LordDragon> so for everything today, its like name20170829*
[14:07] <LordDragon> i can list them with ls
[14:07] <genii> looks like logfiles
[14:07] <LordDragon> but is there a flag or soething to tell me how much disk space those specific files are using?
[14:07] <rmk1> LordDragon: Check du. Probably you will need du -h name20170829*
[14:07] <LordDragon> rmk1: ok thanks. ill give that a try :)
[14:08] <LordDragon> rmk1: that gives me the file SIZE of each file, but not how much they are all using total
[14:08] <rmk1> You can use la name20170829*, if you want more info
[14:08] <rmk1> Sorry, ll
[14:09] <LordDragon> ll
[14:09] <xz> hi there, I have x64 server with 88 cores and 160GB of RAM, I just tried installing 16.04 client distro on it and it won't boot
[14:09] <xz> should I install server distro on it?
[14:09] <xz> is there any reason why it wouldn't boot client distro? after BIOS it's just hanging on black screen with white prompt blinking, that's it
[14:09] <rmk1> LordDragon: But did du show the right thing?
[14:10] <rmk1> If you need the total, you might want to use -hc instead of just -h
[14:10] <LordDragon> rmk1: it showed the specific files in the mask and their INDIVIDUAL filesize, but now the total of all of them combined
[14:10] <LordDragon> ok
[14:10] <LordDragon> PERFECT
[14:10] <LordDragon> that worked. thank you :)
[14:11] <rmk1> You are welcome :)
[14:11] <hateball> !nomodeset | xz
[14:11] <xz> hateball: how do I set it if I cannot modify anything?
[14:11] <xz> hateball: I don't even see grub screen
[14:11] <rmk1> LordDragon: BTW, the h flag is used to output in human-friendly sizes. If you omit that, it will show the space in bytes
[14:11] <xz> hateball: it goes to that black screen right after BIOS
[14:12] <rmk1> Sorry, k bytes
[14:12] <hateball> xz: Right
[14:12] <hateball> xz: Are you sure it actually tries to boot off your install media?
[14:12] <xz> hateball: well, i went to bios and specifically picked SSD drive that I installed onto, so yes
[14:13] <hateball> xz: So you were able to install it then? It does not boot after install?
[14:13] <hateball> xz: In that case, did you install in legacy mode or EFI mode?
[14:13] <xz> hateball: I was able to install even though I'm behind the proxy and installer didn't let me specify proxy, so all stuff that was internet related failed
[14:14] <xz> hateball: then at the end installer said 'installation is finished, hit restart' so I hit restart on it and it hangs
[14:14] <xz> hateball: so I poweroff after a while, pull USB thumbdrive and try to boot it again
[14:14] <hateball> xz: So you're unable to enter grub menu if you hold/hammer left shift key during boot?
[14:14] <xz> I can try
[14:15] <xz> hateball: is there any reason I should maybe install server distro?
[14:15] <hateball> xz: Do you want/need X ?
[14:15] <xz> hateball: yeah, I would want to have X
[14:15] <hateball> xz: Then you may as well stick with desktop
[14:15] <xz> hateball: ok, thanks
[14:15] <xz> hateball: will try hammering left shift
[14:16] <hateball> xz: Because unless the bootloader is all messed for some reason, you should be able to get into GRUB and apply nomodeset
[14:16] <xz> hateball: I used to have debian server distro on that hardware and it worked like a charm
[14:17] <_BIGSHOT_> can anyone tell if fstrim ran or not?
[14:17] <_BIGSHOT_> weekly cron
[14:17] <_BIGSHOT_> how to check?
[14:18] <xz> hateball: so I press 'f6' to show boot menu options
[14:18] <xz> hateball: and I get that black screen right away
[14:18] <_BIGSHOT_> xyz
[14:18] <_BIGSHOT_> ztox
[14:18] <xz> hateball: left shift didn't pick anything
[14:18] <xz> hateball: but then it has no problem booting the installer off USB stick
[14:18] <xz> hateball: I don't know what's going on
[14:27] <xz> hateball: s2600cw that's my motherboard and BIOS is SE5C610.86B.01.01.0016
[14:28] <xz> hateball: it's set to legacy boot
[14:28] <xz> hateball: should I change to UEFI?
[14:29] <hateball> xz: When are you pressing F6? on the USB grub?
[14:29] <xz> hateball: on the BIOS
[14:29] <xz> hateball: after bios screen goes black
[14:29] <hateball> xz: Nah that doesnt matter for this, it's less painful with legacy than uefi
[14:29] <xz> hateball: I think ubuntu installed in UEFI mode and I have legacy on right now
[14:30] <hateball> Well that would be a problem then
[14:31] <xz> hateball: ok, when I installed everything was in legacy mode, so you are suggesting it's already installed in legacy now, right?
[14:31] <hateball> xz: I think the installer should pick up if you're using legacy or uefi, but I dont remember for sure
[14:32] <xz> hateball: I can drop to uefi shell
[14:32] <xz> hateball: that's most I can get from that bios
[14:41] <giwrgaras_> is it worth switching to ubuntu from mint?
[14:41] <giwrgaras_> and my computer is pretty old,
[14:41] <_BIGSHOT_> giwrgaras_, give xubuntu a try
[14:42] <giwrgaras_> i did, it runs great with mate too.in fact on live usb right now
[14:42] <xz> I'm speachless, my ubuntu just won't boot after installer has finished and rebooted
[14:42] <xz> this is so wrong
[14:45] <_BIGSHOT_> xz, you forgot to install GRUB
[14:46] <_BIGSHOT_> speech
[14:46] <Krapulat> leftyfb: The problem is that I use pagespeed, so I have to install nginx manually
[14:47] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: I guess installer forgot to install GRUB
[14:47] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: I don't recon having an option to choose
[14:48] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: but it might be right that there is no grub, or grub is corrupted
[14:48] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: as there was previous installation of debian on it, so installer might have gotten confused (even though I selected an option to completely remove previous installation)
[14:49] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: now I changed to UEFI mode and going through installer again
[14:49] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: any suggestions?
[14:50] <xz> _BIGSHOT_: I'm pickign explicitly 'erase disk and install ubuntu' now
[14:53] <leftyfb> Krapulat: then you'll need to compile it properly
[14:54] <nrml1> hey guys, I'm trying to setup ubuntu as an iscsi target, but not getting any love
[14:55] <xz> why isn't ubuntu installer letting me specify where to install grub? or letting me specify proxy?
[14:55] <nrml1> any iscsi experts?
[14:55] <xz> now it's just failing to retrieve files as I'm behind the proxy
[14:57] <maddawg2> xz you need to enter your proxy info
[14:58] <xz> and why once installation is finished I click on 'restart' and the whole thing hangs?
[14:58] <maddawg2> it asks you for your proxy during the install
[14:58] <xz> maddawg2: you wanna bet? it didn't ask me
[14:58] <maddawg2> sure i'll bet that it did and you missed it
[14:58] <xz> maddawg2: I tried to specify that in top right menu icon
[14:58] <maddawg2> huh?
[14:58] <maddawg2> top right menu??
[14:58] <xz> maddawg2: I'm just installing 3rd time, trying to get that thing to work, didn't ask for grub location, didn't ask for proxy
[14:58] <xz> maddawg2: yes, there is ethernet connection icon
[14:59] <xz> maddawg2: so I went there and right click/edit connections
[14:59] <maddawg2> then you're talking about the live environment
[14:59] <maddawg2> the proxy gets inputted into the installer
[14:59] <xz> maddawg2: but there is no field for proxy information there
[14:59] <maddawg2> not in the settings
[14:59] <maddawg2> http://ask.xmodulo.com/install-ubuntu-desktop-behind-proxy.html
[14:59] <Tuor> Hi, is the Problem with "Unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, sleeping for 5 sec" known? I had to fix it befor on a Ubuntu 16.04 machine.
[15:00] <maddawg2> i didnt realize you were using the "desktop installer
[15:00] <maddawg2> which is a different step than the CLI installer
[15:00] <xz> maddawg2: well, my installer (16.04.03) just starts, then I get the pop-up that wired connection 2 was made successfully (link up I think) and then it asks couple details about machine name and username, which disk to install to and then it starts installing
[15:00] <xz> maddawg2: oh, so I have to 'try ubuntu'
[15:01] <xz> maddawg2: ok, I always went for 'install' right away
[15:01] <xz> maddawg2: is that the problem for me?
[15:01] <Tuor> Now I got the next machine having the this problem. It's basicly a deamon which preventing shutdown during unattended-upgrades running.
[15:01] <xz> maddawg2: as I'm installing of ~1.47GB iso image, so I would imagine, that image should install fully functional distro even without ethernet  connection
[15:01] <akik> ubuntu installer doesn't ask you for the proxy information
[15:01] <xz> akik: I figured that
[15:02] <Tuor> But this deamon does prevent from shutdown even if there are no updates installed.
[15:02] <maddawg2> xz it does a minimal install without internet i believe
[15:02] <maddawg2> tho i never install without internet to be honest
[15:02] <xz> maddawg2: ok, it would be awesome if it worked on my box, but well, life sucks
[15:03] <maddawg2> it's a different option if you want to do a offline install... i think you need to use the alternative install option
[15:03] <xz> maddawg2: all I'm saying is that debian does perfect job and installs fully working distro on the same box
[15:03] <maddawg2> xz what do you mean if it worked on your box?
[15:03] <akik> xz: sure you can install ubuntu without internet connection
[15:03] <xz> akik: look, I'm in Santa Clara right now, you are welcome to show me
[15:03] <xz> akik: because I just spent all morning
[15:03] <maddawg2> it does work on your box... i'm just guessing you dont know how
[15:03] <xz> akik: and I had no luck in legacy mode as well as uefi mode
[15:04] <xz> maddawg2: ok, I'm willing to take your advice, so 'try ubuntu', then specify proxy and install from live session, right?
[15:04] <akik> xz: which part is the install failing on?
[15:04] <xz> akik: actually failing part is right at the end when it says it finished and gives me pop-up with 'restart' button
[15:05] <maddawg2> thats what the instructions say xz
[15:05] <xz> akik: when I click on that button, I get black screen with blinking prompt
[15:05] <maddawg2> alternatively you can use the alternate install disk to not need an internet connection
[15:05] <xz> akik: so after 10min waiting I just kill the power
[15:05] <xz> akik: and try to boot from SSD this time (I booted installer off USB stick)
[15:06] <xz> akik: so then right after bios I get the same black screen with blinking prompt (tried smashing left/right shift to get into grub, but no luck)
[15:06] <akik> maddawg2: does the desktop installer iso require an internet connection?
[15:06] <maddawg2> akik not entierly sure
[15:06] <xz> akik: well, it tries to connect to the internet and is failing
[15:06] <xz> akik: even on time server and what not
[15:06] <maddawg2> i think if you just unplug the ethernet it will install offline
[15:06] <maddawg2> but i've never tried it that way
[15:07] <maddawg2> i usually dont use the live cd to do installs so it's slightly different than what xz is doing
[15:07] <maddawg2> https://askubuntu.com/questions/437783/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-server-from-usb-without-internet-access
[15:07] <akik> i need to test this as it seems a bit weird
[15:07] <xz> maddawg2: I'm mad because I'm in the office and when I start that thing it sounds like SpaceX spaceship for ~2min
[15:07] <maddawg2> according to this you ust unplug the ethernet
[15:07] <xz> maddawg2: how do you install? from netinst?
[15:08] <maddawg2> no
[15:08] <maddawg2> i use the cli
[15:08] <maddawg2> which is on the alternate install disk
[15:08] <maddawg2> or i use ubuntu server which is entirely different
[15:08] <maddawg2> no live cd for that
[15:09] <maddawg2> in the ubuntu server setup it asks for a proxy server like step 3 or something
[15:09] <maddawg2> and i can just enter it there
[15:09] <maddawg2> but you're installing ubuntu desktop which is just different
[15:09] <maddawg2> the netinst requires internet to download the packages
[15:11] <xz> my IRC websession died
[15:13] <maddawg2> annoying none of speedtests servers can test my connection properly :-(
[15:13] <maddawg2> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6579748957
[15:14] <maddawg2> guess they just cant test gigabit in my area :-(
[15:18] <mindofmateo> I'm not sure what question to ask, but I'm basically facing two (possibly related?) issues:  (1) My desktop running 16.04 will not suspend, and (2) pkill is not terminating processes.  I was trying to use `lsusb` for it's obvious purpose, but it just hangs and I have to close the terminal (Ctrl+C does nothing)  I now have 4 instances of `lsusb` whe
[15:18] <mindofmateo> n I look at `ps -e`, but pkill doesn't end them, nor does kill <pid>.
[15:18] <abed> which ubuntu should i download? 16.04 or 17.04?
[15:18] <blacknred0> here is my problem... i got a usb that has been setup to be like a cdrom and whenever i mount it, every computer thinks is a cdrom... is there a way in ubuntu to mount this usb flashdrive (thinking that is a cdrom) and delete all of the content?
[15:19] <blacknred0> i can't seem to find any good solution :(
[15:19] <tgm4883> abed: probably 16.04
[15:19] <abed> tgm4883: why though?
[15:20] <tgm4883> abed: because it's LTS
[15:20] <mindofmateo> As for the suspend issue, when I go to to the cog/gear in the top left menu and select suspend, it locks the PC and the screens go dark, but if I hit a key or move the mouse, nothing has happened, it's as if I just locked the screen.
[15:20] <nacc> blacknred0: but keep it recognized as a cdrom?
[15:20] <abed> tgm4883: but what does that *really* mean?
[15:20] <JonelethIrenicus> Does anyone have a Ryzen 3/5/7 cpu can verify some system logs for me?
[15:20] <mindofmateo> blacknred0: if you just want to free the drive for general use, reformat it.
[15:20] <tgm4883> abed: it means you won't have to upgrade in January, it's supported for longer
[15:20] <JonelethIrenicus> I want to see if those users are getting a TLP pcie error
[15:21] <abed> tgm4883: ah
[15:21] <abed> tgm4883: :)
[15:21] <tgm4883> !lts | abed
[15:21] <abed> !flavors
[15:21] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: I think that may be wrong isn't the latest 16.04.4
[15:22] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: yes
[15:22] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: the main point is still correct. 16.04 is the latest LTS
[15:22] <oerheks> latest LTS, it is
[15:22] <mindofmateo> blacknred0:  use Startup Disk Creator, I think it should be able to format a read-write blank disk IFF (if and only if) you are willing to wipe the drive.  Of course, you could just copy the data to a temporary directory and put it back on if there is critical/sensitive data on the drive.
[15:22] <JonelethIrenicus> ya, how can you update the bot? or is that closed?
[15:23] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: The .4 point release is just updates to 16.04
[15:23] <blacknred0> nacc: yes
[15:23] <blacknred0> mindofmateo: would like to reformat the whole thing
[15:23] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: ya
[15:23] <blacknred0> i don't create what's in it
[15:23] <mindofmateo> blacknred0: startup disk creator is your best bet IMO.
[15:23] <oerheks> JonelethIrenicus,  why update? factoid is correct
[15:24] <blacknred0> mindofmateo: ok... let me try that.
[15:24] <blacknred0> i tried fdisk, gparted, and mounting it.... with no success
[15:24] <mindofmateo> tap super (windows key on most keyboards) and type "Startup", the utility should pop up.
[15:24] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: the .x is just a hwe marker
[15:24] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: they are all 16.04
[15:24] <JonelethIrenicus> oerheks: well the latest version isn't .1 it is .4 is all I am saying it is trivial i understand
[15:24] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: actually it's .3
[15:24] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: ya
[15:25] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: it's been reported
[15:25] <mindofmateo> Just always double and triple check everything when formatting a disk, and make a backup of the data if you're worried at all
[15:25] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: oh? I have .4 i think
[15:25] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: That would be news to http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[15:25] <JonelethIrenicus> ok
[15:26] <tgm4883> JonelethIrenicus: in either case, it's been reported we'll let someone else figure it out ;)
[15:26] <JonelethIrenicus> tgm4883: alrigth :D
[15:36] <mindofmateo> Why wouldn't `kill` or `pkill` end processes?
[15:37] <blacknred0> mindofmateo: startup disk is not picking up the device
[15:37] <_BIGSHOT_> mindofmateo, kill pid
[15:37] <nacc> mindofmateo: if they are zombie, or blocked uninterruptibly in the kernel
[15:37] <_BIGSHOT_> will kill
[15:37] <mindofmateo> _bigshot_: I have done that, on four difference processes, `ps -e` still shows them
[15:37] <nacc> mindofmateo: pastebin the ps output?
[15:37] <blacknred0> On disks.... it is identifying the device in /dev/sr1 and read only
[15:38] <mindofmateo> nacc: ok, one sec
[15:38] <_BIGSHOT_> mindofmateo, maybe you are seeing ps as root
[15:38] <Rapture> re: Ubuntu security notifications. What does this checkbox mean? "Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?"
[15:39] <jer> Rapture, it means if 50 messages show up in one day on that list, then it'll send you just 1 message at the end of the day, with each basically concatennated
[15:39] <jer> so your single message contains all 50, but just in one message
[15:39] <nacc> Rapture: which part is confusing?
[15:39] <mindofmateo> `ps -e` yields: termbin.com/ebu1
[15:39] <Rapture> nacc: ok thanks! I should have clicked yes! ha
[15:40] <nacc> mindofmateo: `ps aux` would be better and which pids are you trying to kill?
[15:40] <nacc> Rapture: probably meant to thank jer :)
[15:40] <mindofmateo> nacc: lsusb
[15:40] <Rapture> sajodhglsbieutg
[15:40] <mindofmateo> I will try `ps aux`
[15:40] <Rapture> channel to busy :)
[15:41] <jer> no worries, was a hit and run answer, i'm off again =]
[15:41] <nacc> mindofmateo: ok, will look for it in the `ps aux` output, thanks
[15:41] <mindofmateo> nacc: termbin.com/ytb0
[15:42] <mindofmateo> there are four, within the last 15 or so listed
[15:42] <nacc> mindofmateo: all are in D or uninterruptible sleep state in the kernel
[15:42] <nacc> mindofmateo: usually that is blocked on some IO
[15:43] <nacc> mindofmateo: or doing something that is considered fatal if interrupted
[15:43] <mindofmateo> well, I was having problems putting it to sleep as well.
[15:43] <mindofmateo> I guess they *are* related then?
[15:43] <nacc> mindofmateo: what is 'it'? your computer?
[15:43] <nacc> mindofmateo: or do you mean suspending lsusb?
[15:44] <mindofmateo> nacc: yes my computer, selecting suspend from the menu only locked the computer
[15:44] <mindofmateo> I probably screwed it up by trying it a few times
[15:44] <mindofmateo> I was trying to put it to sleep last night and it must be on meth or something because it just wouldn't go to sleep
[15:45] <mindofmateo> and now (today) when I try `lsusb` it does nothing.
[15:46] <mindofmateo> I still haven't tried rebooting, would that probably sort it out?
[15:46] <_BIGSHOT_> is there a way to connect bluetooth and change output to bluetooth headset just in one command!?
[15:47] <_BIGSHOT_> mindofmateo, try ps -aux
[15:47] <nacc> mindofmateo: well, it's possible you might seem some errors from usb in `dmesg`
[15:47] <nacc> mindofmateo: but if the lsusb processes were already in D last night, that might block suspend (i'm not sure)
[15:48] <mindofmateo> nacc: they all show as starting today though
[15:49] <mindofmateo> Oh, well, it was after midnight /facepalm
[15:49] <nacc> mindofmateo: anything in dmesg?
[15:50] <mindofmateo> Oh, no there wasn't, but I was in the wrong directory >_< where is that located?
[15:51] <nacc> mindofmateo: `dmesg` is a command
[15:52] <mindofmateo> right away I see red lines that say `Freezing of tasks failed`
[15:52] <nacc> mindofmateo: that'd be the failed suspend, probably
[15:52] <mindofmateo> yep
[15:53] <nacc> mindofmateo: you're probably best off rebooting, tbh. suspend failure can put you in a weird state
[15:53] <mindofmateo> Yeah.  Does that lead to a kernel panic?
[15:54] <ses1984> hey, i just plugged in a USB DAC (sound card) and i'm not sure it's configured correctly, in the sound settings screen it says "analog output" but it should be digital from PC to DAC
[15:54] <mindofmateo> Hmmm... the tasks failing to freeze were actually `upowerd` and `colord-sane`, I have no idea what those are
[15:54] <nacc> mindofmateo: the latter is a scanner tool, iirc
[15:54] <nacc> mindofmateo: but which packages failed is only sort of relevant, that any tasks failed to freeze will block suspend
[15:54] <mindofmateo> nacc: wifi related, or?
[15:55] <mindofmateo> right, makes sense.
[15:55] <nacc> mindofmateo: i don't think it would be
[15:55] <nacc> mindofmateo: upowerd is 'u power d', which is presumably some sort of battery/power monitory
[15:55] <mindofmateo> I was thinking it was `lsusb` because I am unable to use it for some reason.  I'll see about a reboot and if I'm still up a creek, I'll be back.  Thanks all
[15:58] <akik> maddawg2: i just tested the desktop iso install. there's no requirement for the network
[15:59] <blacknred0> with my problem... could i fix it by writing empty bytes and then formating the usb?
[16:00] <blacknred0> maybe with `dd` ???
[16:01] <akik> blacknred0: it's probably read-only. you can try dd to see if you can write to it
[16:04] <akik> blacknred0: do you need the dd options?
[16:05] <blacknred0> akik: yep, it is read only.... i am trying to see if i could write that way
[16:05] <blacknred0> nah, i could figure the dd options out :) (by using the power of google)
[16:05] <akik> blacknred0: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sr1 bs=1024k count=1
[16:05] <boxrick> After creating an Ubuntu USB install stick, is there any reason I get 'mount: /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only' when trying to mount the partition on another Ubuntu system?
[16:05] <Dethfull> i have a fuseblk (NTFS), with an undeleteable and aparently empty folder, i ran ntfsfix, with -b -d, and shows no errors, but the folder still is there
[16:05] <blacknred0> akik: thanks mate!
[16:05] <akik> blacknred0: sr0 and sr1 are cd/dvd roms
[16:09] <Dethfull> i hava a fuseblk with an undeleteable folder
[16:09] <Dethfull> i ran ntfsfix and showed no errors
[16:09] <Dethfull> how can i delete this folder?
[16:10] <akik> Dethfull: maybe you should copy the data off the device and reinitialize it?
[16:10] <Dethfull> azik yes i know, but is 2GB off posix data.
[16:11] <Dethfull> i don't believe this still have not any solution
[16:11] <Dethfull> other
[16:12] <Dethfull> i am obligated to go windows and run chkdsk
[16:13] <Dethfull> the folder is movable (inside the partition only, ), is permission abe set, timestamp set, but not deletable
[16:14] <Dethfull> and not able to create a new file in too
[16:14] <Dethfull> may it be a new kind of obscure NTFS (chattr)? XD
[16:16] <pavlos> Dethfull: is there an entry in /etc/fstab ?
[16:17] <Dethfull> pavlos no, is ntfs-3g -o permissions
[16:18] <Dethfull> pavlos i believe that is a non-block-ended folder
[16:18] <Dethfull> ntfsfis does not showed errors
[16:18] <Dethfull> ntfsfix
[16:19] <blacknred0> akik: i got this -> `dd: failed to open '/dev/sr1': Read-only file system`
[16:19] <blacknred0> which i assume that's what you meant (sigh)
[16:21] <Dethfull> the stat of foldef bits shows 4096 wich is wrong
[16:25] <Dethfull> when i try to move this folder to outside the partition the error shows "failed to mv, Cross device-link"
[17:28] <revmoo> getting a 'no space left on device' error on a 16.04 system with TBs of free space, plenty of available inodes as well
[17:28] <revmoo> (on apt-get -f install)
[17:28] <revmoo> any ideas?
[17:29] <tgm4883> revmoo: 'df -h'
[17:29] <tgm4883> !pastebin | revmoo
[17:47] <pavlos> !help
[18:30] <Pici> weird
[18:37] <SteeevO>  is it possible to redirect outbound trafffic on ubuntu to loopback to itself for processing with netsed?
[18:43] <akik> SteeevO: i just read this now but iptables has a -tee option for that
[18:44] <SteeevO> I don't want to split the traffic, I want to redirect it to myself on a different port. but for some reason netsed isn't catching it when I try.
[18:44] <SteeevO> akik,
[18:45] <akik> SteeevO: according to what i read tee makes copies of your packets
[18:46] <SteeevO> akik, ok... but thats not what I want.
[18:46] <nchambers> in ubuntu server 17.04, is it possible to turn off the welcome message for just one user/
[18:47] <auser_> Hello everyone, I'm unable to update, I keep on getting this : https://pastebin.com/raw/R884nrU5
[18:47] <pavlos> SteeevO: this might help ... https://serverfault.com/questions/318960/easy-way-to-edit-the-traffic-coming-from-a-tcp-host-linux
[18:47] <nchambers> nmd, figured it out: touch ~/.hushlogin
[18:47] <auser_> can someone tell me what i should be doing to resolve such an issue?
[18:50] <craigbass76> Back in the day (when I used Windows 98) I ran a looping/music program called Acid Pro. Anyone know what (not Audacity) might open these old acd files?
[18:51] <kostkon> auser_, try again to do a   sudo apt-get clean   and then   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:52] <ducasse> craigbass76: try asking in #ubuntustudio
[18:53] <auser_> hey kostkon, I've done that and that's what i got : https://pastebin.com/raw/j63Mf5S5
[18:53] <craigbass76> ducasse, duh -- I keep forgetting there's a whole recording studio version of Ubuntu...
[18:54] <auser_> and this : https://pastebin.com/raw/EYwRZsVK
[18:55] <pavlos> auser_: do you have other ppa's that may conflict?
[18:56] <kostkon> auser_, apt-cache policy libvdpau1
[18:56] <cluelessperson> hey guys, how do you set a hostname to resolve to an ip address?
[18:56] <cluelessperson> permanently in ubuntu?
[18:57] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: your local area network DNS should take care of that for you
[18:58] <cluelessperson> leftyfb: this hostname is on an vpn,  I'm trying to say  "hostname" is 10.0.0.1
[18:58] <auser_> not entirely sure pavlos
[18:58] <auser_> kostkon, https://pastebin.com/raw/ckubjtLx that's the outpus I'm seeing
[18:58] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: otherwise man hosts # /etc/hosts
[18:58] <cluelessperson> nano /etc/hosts
[18:58] <cluelessperson> lol,
[18:58] <cluelessperson> leftyfb: thanks
[18:59] <pavlos> cluelessperson: make sure the hostname in /etc/hosts matches what's in /etc/hostname (you can edit both files
[19:00] <uebera||> Hi. Does anyone know about a 3rd party PPA for a current gnupg v2 w/ packages for Xenial?
[19:00] <leftyfb> pavlos: /etc/hostname isn't for resolving other machines on the network
[19:02] <kostkon> auser_, apt-cache policy libvdpau1:i386?
[19:02] <kostkon> auser_, minus the question mark that is
[19:05] <auser_> kostkon, https://pastebin.com/raw/WBbnvfQu
[19:06] <retrosenator> how do I get wlan0 to stay at txpower 30?
[19:07] <retrosenator> I am constantly running "iwconfig wlan0 txpower 30"
[19:07] <retrosenator> and it resets to 20 all the time at random
[19:07] <retrosenator> which means I cannot use internet
[19:07] <kostkon> auser_, dpkg -S /etc/vdpau_wrapper.cfg
[19:08] <retrosenator> do I need a cron job that runs that every second?  seems bad
[19:08] <leftyfb> retrosenator: cron jobs do not run every second
[19:08] <auser_> kostkon, it says : libvdpau1:i386: /etc/vdpau_wrapper.cfg
[19:08] <ioria> auser_, may i ask you why the 32-bit version of that package  ?
[19:09] <kostkon> auser_, really? hmm
[19:09] <auser_> i don't know and i have no usage for that package
[19:09] <auser_> I can't uninstall it :(
[19:09] <kostkon> auser_, try installing it   sudo apt-get install libvdpau1:i386
[19:09] <retrosenator> lopta: leftyfb they can be made to with a script that runs something every second 60 times
[19:09] <leftyfb> retrosenator: you could try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/380623/set-wifi-txpower-from-etc-network-interfaces
[19:10] <auser_> https://pastebin.com/raw/itZtsavK kostkon
[19:10] <pavlos> leftyfb: sudo might not work if the hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname do not match
[19:10] <leftyfb> retrosenator: that's not cron running every second, that's a script that runs for 60 cycles called by a cron job every minute
[19:11] <kostkon> auser_, apt-cache policy mesa-vdpau-drivers mplayer
[19:11] <leftyfb> pavlos: I do not think that is relevant to the original question
[19:11] <leftyfb> pavlos: they were asking how to add a hosts entry for other machines on the network. Not the localhost in question
[19:12] <leftyfb> pavlos: also, sudo always works, it just complaints the hostname lookup failed if your localhost hostname isn't set properly (/etc/hostname and /etc/hosts)
[19:13] <auser_> kostkon, https://pastebin.com/raw/W30Q2qnM
[19:14] <tgm4883> retrosenator: what wireless chip?
[19:14] <retrosenator> leftyfb: thanks, but it won't work, the kernel constantly resets it to 20
[19:15] <kostkon> auser_, let's try doing  sudo apt-get purge libvdpau1:i386
[19:16] <auser_> kostkon, http://i.imgur.com/mDh0DBW.png
[19:16] <leftyfb> retrosenator: I do not think that's how it works. The only way it should be resetting is if you're losing connection and it reconnects. If you add it to the network profile for the interface, it should set that setting every time the interface is brought up (reconnects to wifi)
[19:18] <tgm4883> leftyfb: no, that sounds reasonable
[19:19] <leftyfb> tgm4883: ?
[19:19] <tgm4883> leftyfb: That it's getting reset to 20 (or rather, a lower value than 30)
[19:19] <kostkon> auser_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1456904
[19:20] <kostkon> auser_, sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 libvdpau1:i386  you never know
[19:21] <auser_> kostkon, it also ends with
[19:21] <auser_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:21] <auser_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_1.1.1-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[19:21] <auser_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:21] <auser_> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_1.1.1-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[19:21] <auser_> http://i.imgur.com/mhOG7Od.png
[19:22] <genii> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_1.1.1-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[19:22]  * genii wanders off again
[19:26] <ioria> auser_, have you tried genii suggestion ?
[19:26] <auser_> nice one gnii:)
[19:27] <auser_> yup, this works now, thanks kostkon and genii
[19:27] <auser_> may i know what was the problem ?
[19:27] <kostkon> auser_, apt didn't want to overwrite the file
[19:28] <ioria> auser_, apt-cache policy libvdpau1 again please
[19:28] <caixavirt> is there a way to get apt dist-upgrade to show a summary at the end of an update process so I don't have to scroll all the way up to see what was done
[19:29] <oerheks> 7 not upgraded ..
[19:31] <auser_> thank kostkon, ioria http://i.imgur.com/nXVZ5dA.png
[19:31] <ioria> here we are
[19:33] <auser_> what could be the reason for such a thing ?
[19:36] <JustPie> Hey all. I'm using a thunderbolt TB16 which runs USB through a thunderbolt 3 plug. Everything seems to be working for the most part. However, my usb devices seem to freeze up randomly. My keyboard and mouse hang. If i unplug/replug they work instantly. Sometimes they work on their own after 30 seconds or so. Any ideas on what might cause this?
[19:36] <ioria> auser_, i have not followed the whole story, , but libvdpau1  is a dep of mplayer (you got 64bit ver ), but your libvdpau1 was 32bit, i guess
[19:40] <Bashing-om> JustPie: Any hints if you "follow" the system log ' journalctl -f ' ?
[19:43] <JustPie> Bashing-om: Actually, i was in the process of doing that and i happened to catch it. I think the error was on line 14.  https://pastebin.com/vzAfzBEm
[19:43] <JustPie> I unplugged my keyboard on line 1 and my mouse happened to freeze around line 14ish
[19:46] <ducasse> JustPie: which release is this?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> JustPie: looking .
[19:48] <JustPie> ducasse: 16.04
[19:48] <ducasse> JustPie: ok, which kernel version?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> JustPie: Plugged into a USB3 port ? Can you try a USB2 port ?
[19:49] <JustPie> Linux davey-xps 4.10.0-28-generic #32~16.04.2-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 20 10:19:48 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:51] <JustPie> Bashing-om: The keyboard/mouse are plugged into my TB16 docking station. They all come in through one thunderbolt 3 plug. I don't get the disconnects when i plug directly into the laptop
[19:51] <ducasse> JustPie: might be worth trying a later mainline kernel
[19:53] <JustPie> I don't think ive ever switched to a new kernal. Whats the difficulty?
[19:54] <ducasse> JustPie: just install the packages, the latest version should be selected when you reboot
[19:54] <okno909> hi
[19:55] <Bashing-om> JustPie: A quick look seems you are not alone with the TB16 docking station issues . See what I can find out .
[19:56] <JustPie> Bashing-om: Yeah, i've been struggling with it for a few days now. I've updated all the firmware as recommended
[19:56] <JustPie> I seem to have everything working minus the random usb cut outs
[19:58] <Bashing-om> JustPie: "By the way regarding the USB flakiness issue, I've been using my USB mouse in one of the back ports without issue for the past couple days." .
[19:59] <_BIGSHOT_> sup dawgs where at
[19:59] <JustPie> Its been pretty random so far. Sometimes i can go a few hours without having issues. Other times it seems like I need to unplug every 5 mins.
[19:59] <_BIGSHOT_> bye gaiz have a nize nite
[20:05] <Bashing-om> JustPie: Seems a biggy to " Change SATA to AHCI mode  " Have you checked the firmware to see what mode is enabled ?
[20:06] <JustPie> Bashing-om: I have not
[20:06] <JustPie> currently updating the kernal, ill try that in a bit after
[20:07] <Bashing-om> juAhci seems reasonable to me . Woll rewuire rebooting windows if changed : http://vetruvet.blogspot.com/2017/02/linux-on-xps-15-95509560-with-tb16-dock.html .
[20:07] <Bashing-om> will require *
[20:13] <JustPie> Ok. New kernal and same issue. Already froze once
[20:14] <JustPie> and SATA to AHCI mode
[20:18] <leftyfb> JustPie: "kernel"
[20:18] <JustPie> my bad!
[20:18] <JustPie> My keyboard disconnects every few. I'm on borrowed time. Don't got time to spellcheck :p
[20:24] <okno909> lol
[20:24] <Bashing-om> JustPie: UnGood: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1663975 .
[20:24] <okno909> hii
[20:24] <SteeevO> pavlos, thank you I came accross that last night but it didn't work. I think there is an issue keeping that from working on my machine.
[20:24] <okno909> how do i relogin if i close this window?
[20:31] <thesheriff> Hi, I am hoping someone can help me with a seriously frustrating issue. I spin up a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 VM on my hypervisor and I am unable to install any updates on 16.04 as I get 403 forbidden errors when trying to apt-get upgrade
[20:32] <thesheriff> i have a good connection to the internet
[20:32] <thesheriff> i am able to do an apt-get update and it finishes fine
[20:33] <nacc> thesheriff: pastebin the output?
[20:33] <tomreyn> thesheriff: run "lsb_release -ds", "sudo apt-get update" and "apt-cache policy" and post their outputs to a pastebin
[20:34] <tomreyn> !pastebin | thesheriff
[20:34] <Ryanar> when I edit a crontab with `crontab -e` and set it to run the next minute, I am not seeing CRON appear in the system log
[20:38] <tomreyn> Ryanar: do you have the cron service running?
[20:39] <tomreyn> service cron status
[20:39] <thesheriff> 16.04.3 LTS
[20:41] <thesheriff> preparing a pastebin now
[20:43] <caixavirt> since there doesn't seem to be a summary option for after apt dist-upgrade runs, i'll create an alias for something like this: ls -alt /var/lib/dpkg/info | head -n 10
[20:45] <ducasse> caixavirt: if you install apt-listchanges it will automatically display the changelogs, if that helps
[20:45] <fuser> When I cancel a transfer to a USB, delete the file, and clear the trash, the USB still takes up the amount of space that Nautilus managed to transfer.
[20:45] <tomreyn> caixavirt: it's not entirely clear what your goal is, though
[20:46] <thesheriff> Here are the results of an "apt-get upgrade -y" http://paste.ubuntu.com/25427252/
[20:46] <thesheriff> i get "err 403 forbidden" on what looks like ALL of the sources
[20:47] <fuser> Actually, USB device is still busy. No clue wtf is happening. Transfers are super buggy.
[20:47] <tomreyn> thesheriff: that's most likely a proxy error.
[20:47] <thesheriff> im not behind a proxy though :(
[20:47] <nacc> thesheriff: did you manually create this source.list?
[20:47] <nacc> thesheriff: your security entries are just wrong.
[20:48] <thesheriff> i have egress filtering on, but my research says that the apt-get stuff is all done over HTTP or HTTPS (so ports 80 or 443)
[20:48] <thesheriff> i did not manually create this list
[20:49] <nacc> thesheriff: i'm 99% sure that ttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main would not be created by the ubuntu installer
[20:49] <thesheriff> i just created a brand new LXC using proxmox (my hypervisor) using the "official" ubuntu 16.04 LTS template that i had used many times before
[20:49] <nacc> it should be security.ubunut.com/ubuntu xenial-security main universe multiverse
[20:49] <nacc> *ubuntu.com
[20:49] <tomreyn> nacc: i've seen it this way many times, i think this is a (bad) default somewhere.
[20:49] <nacc> tomreyn: yeah proxmox, i'm pretty sure
[20:50] <thesheriff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25427277/
[20:50] <tomreyn> could  be that
[20:50] <thesheriff> thats my /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:50] <nacc> thesheriff: the last line is wrong
[20:50] <oerheks> 80, 443 and 53
[20:50] <tomreyn> i agree. but this doesn't explain the 403's yet
[20:50] <nacc> yep
[20:51] <nacc> i would blame proxmox :)
[20:51] <tomreyn> name resolutio also works
[20:51] <oerheks> ufw allow out 53
[20:51] <tomreyn> blaming proxmox is my favourite, too ;)
[20:51] <nacc> yeah i'd guess a firewall somewhere
[20:51] <nacc> (on the host most likely)
[20:51] <nacc> perhaps by default with proxmox?
[20:52] <thesheriff> so i can confirm that my DNS requests make it out
[20:52] <thesheriff> as i can ping google or any other domain and get it resolved
[20:52] <thesheriff> the proxmox is unchanged and has other VMs that last i checked are currently still working fine
[20:53] <tomreyn> see if you can access any of the foling location from the host
[20:53] <tomreyn> *failing
[20:54] <thesheriff> i can ping the failing IP
[20:54] <tomreyn> run curl or wget againt them
[20:54] <thesheriff> i can wget the index of that IP as well
[20:54] <thesheriff> lol yup
[20:54] <tomreyn> against the full urls
[20:55] <oerheks> run updates again, maybe the mirror got sync'd
[20:55] <nacc> eg http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/makedev/makedev_2.3.1-93ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04.1_all.deb
[20:55] <thesheriff> i can WGET the url http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[20:55] <thesheriff> and it gives me what looks like the HTML of a directory listing
[20:56] <thesheriff> so that seems like its working
[20:56] <nacc> right, but that wasn't failing before
[20:56] <tomreyn> try nacc's URL
[20:56] <nacc> well, it was, because of the wrong URL
[20:56] <thesheriff> same with archive.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <thesheriff> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[20:56] <nacc> but if 'update' worked, then getting the indices doesn't matter
[20:56] <nacc> thesheriff: it's downloading the debs that's failing
[20:57] <thesheriff> ah, ok ill try that
[20:57] <thesheriff> 403 forbidden :(
[20:57] <thesheriff> when i tried to wget the url nacc provided
[20:57] <nacc> thesheriff: can you wget it from the host?
[21:01] <vlt> Hello. I want to use another machine’s block devices. What options do I have nowadays?
[21:01] <nacc> vlt: you mean physically move the disks?
[21:01] <nacc> vlt: give more details.
[21:01] <Ryanar> @tomreyn yes cron service running, cron jobs scheduled from earlier that day ran, but when I edit the crontab and change the time so that the job will run 2 minutes from now, I dont see a syslog for it after two minutes goes by
[21:02] <leftyfb> vlt: nfs, samba, isci, scp, ftp
[21:02] <vlt> nacc: No, I want to read from and write to. Like NBD or iscsi.
[21:02] <vlt> leftyfb: nfs, samba, scp and ftp doesn’t sound like options for block devices to me.
[21:03] <tomreyn> Ryanar: does the user this runs as have a valid shell?
[21:03] <leftyfb> vlt: why do you need block devices directly accessible over the network?
[21:03] <nacc> vlt: then setup iscsi?
[21:03] <Ryanar> how do I check if my user account has a valid shell?
[21:03] <nacc> vlt: sounds like you know exactly what you want
[21:03] <leftyfb> Ryanar: if you're logged in, you have a valid shell
[21:03] <Ryanar> kk I do then :)
[21:03] <tomreyn> Ryanar: can you should the crontab line you have, maybe omiut the actual command if you want to.
[21:04] <tomreyn> Ryanar: i mean 'show', not 'should' there
[21:05] <Ryanar> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25427370/
[21:05] <Ryanar> its the /scripts/update_profiles.sh line that I was editing to 2 minutes from the current system time
[21:06] <auser_> hello guys
[21:07] <Ryanar> update_profiles.sh has chmod +x applied to it and at the top is #!/bin/bash
[21:07] <auser_> I'm trying to compile airdcpp-webclient on ubuntu16.04, it was always working fine, until i guess i updated openSSL or something, now during the make -j2 step, i keep on getting this error
[21:07] <vlt> leftyfb: To use them locally as ... well ... block devices.
[21:08] <leftyfb> vlt: why? Why won't mounting them work just as well for you?
[21:08] <vlt> leftyfb: You don’t mount block devices, you mount file systems.
[21:09] <auser_> https://pastebin.com/raw/GrFTUxqA
[21:09] <leftyfb> vlt: I understand that. But there's not much sense in having a bunch of block devices around without filesystems on them.
[21:09] <nacc> vlt: what is your end goal? what do you want to do with these remote block devices?
[21:09] <auser_> can someone tell me what can be wrong? I'm pretty sure before during the cmake . step it used to show something like, Found OpenSSL but now it only shows those :
[21:10] <vlt> nacc: Use them as LVM PVs, for example.
[21:10] <auser_> https://pastebin.com/raw/sbPq1fiU
[21:10] <auser_> can someone tell me what i need to do ? it's like as if it's not seeing OpenSSL at all.
[21:10] <nacc> vlt: ... you want to use LVM over networked devices? :)
[21:11] <vlt> nacc: In this case yes.
[21:11] <leftyfb> gross (in a non-enterprise environment)
[21:11] <nacc> vlt: set up tgt on your host? that's probably the most straightforward thingn if you reallly want what you're describing.
[21:11] <nacc> leftyfb: agreed :)
[21:13] <ipatrol> !jp > ipatrol
[21:14] <ipatrol> Which is the currently recommended IME for Japanese?
[21:15] <auser_> anyone knows what can be doen?
[21:15] <tomreyn> Ryanar: hmm, i'm puzzled, it looks fine to me.
[21:15] <Ryanar> on apache I would have to install the crontab after editing it
[21:15] <Ryanar> not sure if there is something to do to make ubuntu see the changes
[21:16] <tomreyn> Ryanar: try simplifying the test case, just place some "echo IWASHERE > /tmp/IWASHERE" there
[21:16] <Ryanar> alright give me a minute, doing an install on the server
[21:16] <tomreyn> Ryanar: apache httpd does not know the concept of cron jobs
[21:17] <tomreyn> ...or crontabs
[21:20] <Ryanar> hahaha
[21:20] <Ryanar> so that time on closing
[21:20] <Ryanar> it goes
[21:20] <Ryanar> "crontab: installing new crontab"
[21:20] <Bishaeop> I put together an Ubuntu machine way back when for my mother which was 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx). She kept up with the package updates, but not the dist-upgrades. At any rate, she brought it to me and of course I can't do an apt-get dist-upgrade because it's so out of date. What's the best way to get her to a current LTS release? Thanks.
[21:21] <Ryanar> I wonder if it just wasn't seeing the file as having any changes?
[21:21] <auser_> anyone know how to compile openssl correctly ?
[21:21] <Ryanar> because all I was doing was updating the number
[21:21] <nacc> Bishaeop: reinstall (easiest) or
[21:21] <nacc> !eolupgrade | Bishaeop
[21:21] <tomreyn> auser_: you should seek help from the developers of the software oyu are trying to build
[21:21] <nacc> Bishaeop: but at this point , you are an entire LTS behind
[21:22] <auser_> That's something too that i can do, ty
[21:22] <ipatrol> Bishaeop: at this point, it's probably less painful to just do a new install
[21:23] <Bishaeop> Probably right, she mostly just does web browsing and checking email (also web based). No real custom stuff or files to keep track of. Just back up her home directory and reinstall. Thanks.
[21:24] <nacc> Bishaeop: yep, sorry to hear, but it will be faster to do that :)
[21:24] <Bishaeop> Yeah, but now I know I need to show her how to do dist-upgrades. lol Thanks guys.
[21:26] <ipatrol> Anyway, I have ibus-anthy set up and running, but apparently there's no documentation on how to use it to speak of?
[21:27] <Ryanar> tomreyn no log file for the echo case
[21:28] <Ryanar> im doing sudo grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[21:29] <silvian> @all Hello World!
[21:29] <Bishaeop> Ok, next question, different machine. standard spinning fixed disk is failing in Ubuntu machine according to SMART warnings. Wanting to clone the drive to a newer, bigger HDD. Ideally, clone the drive, remove failing hard drive, put newly cloned hard drive in its place and boot more or less back to normal. I'm trying to decide between using dd and CloneZilla. Any thoughts?
[21:30] <EriC^^> Bishaeop: clonezilla is probably a better option, make sure the harddisk is at least the same size though
[21:30] <silvian> @Bishaeop I guess it comes down to personal preference and whatever tool you're most comfortable with using? Don't forget that with dd if you make one single mistake you can screw your drive. You have to be very careful with all the commands and flag options
[21:31] <silvian> If this is like my only drive I would want to make double sure that what I'm doing is going to work 100%
[21:32] <Bishaeop> EriC^^, long as the target drive is the same size or bigger correct?
[21:32] <EriC^^> Bishaeop: yeah
[21:33] <ipatrol> Apparently some people prefer Mozc? Is there a difference?
[21:34] <Bishaeop> silvian, I was thinking something pretty basic like dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY bs=64K conv=noerror,sync. Obviously, not mixing up the source and target is imperative. The question is whether this drive will be bootable using that dd command. Never used CloneZilla, but it seems like it would handle making it bootable.
[21:35] <silvian> @bishaeop I would assume so yes. :)
[21:35] <EriC^^> Bishaeop: yeah, why not bs=4M though?
[21:35] <EriC^^> also slap in status=progress if you're using a newer dd version
[21:36] <Bishaeop> @EriC^^ based on what I've read with dd, smaller bs is more accurate while bigger is faster. I figure with a failing drive, accuracy is probably going to be important, but the default of bs=512 is probably overkill.
[21:37] <silvian> @bishaeop yes it will handle MBR and GPT more info here on what it supports as well as limitations http://clonezilla.org/
[21:38] <Bishaeop> Thanks silvian. I only heard about CloneZilla this morning so I had spent more time reading up on dd. Just thought I'd check to see if anyone has good or bad experiences with it here.
[21:38] <Bishaeop> I'll read up more on CloneZilla.
[21:39] <vlt> Bishaeop: For a failing drive there’s also ddrescue. It will adapt the read read to the error rate and let you continue a failed read attempt anytime later.
[21:39] <silvian> @Bishaeop perhaps try it with another drive or even a flash drive you don't really need. Also you can use clonezilla as a live usb
[21:40] <vlt> Bishaeop: For your previous question: I’d recommend LTS to LTS updates only for your mother. What desktop environment did she use on 10.04?
[21:40] <Bishaeop> Good to know vlt. Thanks.
[21:41] <Bishaeop> @vlt, Gnome. It was a basic OOB experience for her. I didn't really customize anything.
[21:42] <vlt> Bishaeop: Then another sugestion: Put Gnome (or MATE) also on the new 16.04 machine. The next LTS release 18.04 will have it anyways.
[21:42] <pauljw> go with Mate
[21:42] <vlt> Bishaeop: I mean, don’t bother with Unity then :-)
[21:46] <Bishaeop> Yeah, sorry guys, I mostly use Kali and most of it from CLI for pen-testing, so I'm not so familiar with the desktop environments. MATE will replace Unity/Gnome? Is that in 16.04.3 LTS Xenial Xerus? i.e. will I need to do anything special to use MATE vs. Unity? Gonna hit Google real quick. <grin>
[21:46] <silvian> yeah really depends @Bishaeop on the hardware... I find MATE to use very little resources around 500MB of RAM
[21:47] <silvian> MATE is just a fork of GNOME 2
[21:48] <oerheks> desktop choise enough, there is no single best (choise) anymore
[21:48] <Bishaeop> Ahhh. Well, found a decent description here: https://freedompenguin.com/articles/just-ask-matt/whats-difference-gnome-unity-mate/
[21:48] <silvian> @oerheks there is one and its called the bash shell :D
[21:49] <Bishaeop> Given my mom really only uses the browser (web and email) I don't think she'd really care which desktop environment she has long as she knows where to find the icon for the browser. Thanks guys.
[21:49] <silvian> @Bishaeop ah yeah freedompenguin.com is a good source he's a good lad.
[21:51] <Bishaeop> Ok, gotta head out. Thanks again for the help.
[22:14] <darkdrgn2k> Hi all
[22:15] <darkdrgn2k> what is the correct way to configure a wireless adapter in conf files
[22:19] <silvian> @darkdrgn2k in what way do you wish to configure it?
[22:20] <silvian> in the sense that you want it to connect automatically using this adapter or have it store the preferred SSID and password for the wifi?
[22:21] <darkdrgn2k> no, looking to put it in mesh mode
[22:21] <darkdrgn2k> currently im doing it via command line
[22:22] <darkdrgn2k> but im looking at how a proper config should look
[22:22] <silvian> ah basically you want it to do that as a script
[22:22] <darkdrgn2k> really? so there is no option in the stock ubuntu network to do that?
[22:23] <darkdrgn2k> (im trying to avoid creating additional config files if i can)
[22:23] <darkdrgn2k> (and use the ones already part of the os for resilliance)
[22:26] <silvian> @darkdrng2k no idea to be honest... might be something you'll have to script up unless anyone else has better way of doing it?
[22:26] <darkdrgn2k> yeh i alreayd have a script :/
[22:28] <silvian> create a /etc/init.d/ entry for it and job done... #lazy :P
[22:28] <darkdrgn2k> put it in /etc/rc.local #evenlazier
[22:28] <silvian> that's the spirit :D
[22:28] <darkdrgn2k> but im trying to see if there is "right" way of doing it.. thast all
[22:29] <silvian> yeah hopefully someone here has done that before :)
[22:30] <darkdrgn2k> would be nice if there was.. oh i dont know.. som documentation LOL
[22:31] <darkdrgn2k> :P
[22:32] <darkdrgn2k> ok better question
[22:32] <darkdrgn2k> any suggestions on reading a conf file in bash?
[22:32] <darkdrgn2k> just key=value  and run the file?
[22:33] <silvian> ah no a conf file will need to be interpreted by a program using those configurations to do something with them
[22:33] <darkdrgn2k> yes but just reading it
[22:33] <darkdrgn2k> (to absorb the variables for example)
[22:34] <Tendies> when will ubuntu actually not have unity? I was under the impression 17.04 shipped with gnome...
[22:34] <Tendies> but this looks like unity
[22:34] <tgm4883> Tendies: 17.10
[22:34] <silvian> @Tendies that would be 17.10
[22:34] <silvian> in time for 18.04 LTS
[22:34] <Tendies> next year?
[22:34] <tgm4883> Tendies: October
[22:34] <silvian> well october for 17.10
[22:34] <Tendies> ok thanks
[22:35] <Tendies> is there not 17.04 LTS?
[22:35] <silvian> @darkdrgn2k
[22:35] <tgm4883> Tendies: 20(17.10)October
[22:35] <silvian> yes you can pass them in as environment variables
[22:35] <darkdrgn2k> but like do a key/pair in /etc/myconf
[22:35] <darkdrgn2k> and then just run the file to absorb the variables
[22:35] <silvian> foo="BAR"
[22:35] <silvian> export foo
[22:36] <silvian> then they can be accessible in your shell scripts
[22:36] <silvian> as $foo
[22:37] <nacc> Tendies: no, 17.04 is not an LTS
[22:37] <Tendies> i understand, but usually *.04 has been LTS
[22:37] <CoderEurope> How do I update to 17.04 rom 16.10 Yakkety ?
[22:37] <silvian> @darkdrgn2k I believe this is exactly what you want to do https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32761478/export-all-variables-from-key-value-file-to-shell
[22:37] <nacc> Tendies: no, it has not
[22:37] <nacc> Tendies: even-numbered years only
[22:37] <tgm4883> Tendies: no, even year .04 is LTS releases
[22:37] <nacc> !eolupgrade | CoderEurope
[22:38] <darkdrgn2k> silvian: exacly what im thinking
[22:38] <Tendies> i now realize my only samples to form this opinion came from even numbered releases
[22:38] <Tendies> ok
[22:39] <silvian> yeah taht suggested loop will do while read assignment; do   export "$assignment" done < site.conf
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> actualy it ssuggesed
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> set -a
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> source site.conf
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> set +a
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> oops sorry paste :/
[22:41] <silvian> darkdrgn2k: ah yes the loop works only if all your conf key value pairs are on a single line separated by a carrige return
[22:42] <silvian> yeah follow suggestion from stack overflow... story of my life. source sounds like the proper way of doing it :D
[23:13] <elitecoder> How do you set Mount Flags for a service in Ubuntu 14.04?
[23:14] <elitecoder> (it uses upstart)
[23:28] <darkdrgn2k> is there any easy way to createa  "dialog" like configuration system like makemenu config
[23:30] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: `dialog` ?
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> make menuconfig like
[23:30] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: well, it won't be the whole menus, for that you'd need to write curses
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> interface
[23:30] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: i know, have you looked at `dialog` ?
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> yeh i have
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> gatat figure out how to generate dynamic items :/
[23:37] <Egyptian> can someone help me with this? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/zZJuobFEpzW~EyVMZCR0Lg i am unable to update packages
[23:39] <nacc> Egyptian: `dpkg -S /usr/bin/pyclean` ?
[23:40] <Egyptian> python-minimal: /usr/bin/pyclean
[23:40] <nacc> Egyptian: and/or did you manually change your python to be python3?
[23:41] <Egyptian> duh! .. maybe my team mate did .. i let him configure this box :(
[23:41] <nacc> Egyptian: you should never change python to python3, that's a pretty big mistake
[23:42] <Egyptian> forgive him - he's a newbie .. will teach him how to use virtual environments .. thanks
[23:43] <nacc> Egyptian: yw, gl
[23:58] <fission6> can someone check my htop, what this mean, the celery is a child of this specific command http://imgur.com/a/Nlbb2