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BluesKajhowdy folks09:29
John85hey :)09:30
John85not sure why i put a smiley face to be honest09:31
BluesKaj'Morning John8509:33
John85good morning09:34
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John85so I just installed 17.04 fresh, after trying to update from 14.04, and failing09:40
John85now im back to square one with all the issues such as Amarok and Dragon not playing anything,  also can not find GIMP in software center,  or any other apps I want09:41
John85tried this...sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg...that did'nt help09:43
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EightynineI tried to install Konversation (it installed correctly) but apt said this: These packages had been installed automatically and not longer needed: gstreamer1.0-libav libavfilter-ffmpeg5 libavresample-ffmpeg2 libpostproc-ffmpeg53 libsodium18 libzmq5 Is this normal behavior?09:54
BluesKajEightynine, yes those libs have been replaced with upgraded versions09:59
BluesKajJohn85, install ffmpeg, and try a more recent media player10:00
John85ok will do,  thanks BluesKaj10:01
BluesKajdragonplayer is ok for pc desktop veiwing , but if you want a hone theater experince, mpv and vlc work well and of course kodi10:02
BluesKajhome theater meaning the pc is connected to a tv and audio amp/receiver system10:03
John85,  i usually stick to desktop viewing10:04
John85i have HDMI port,  but rarely use it10:04
John85brb10:05
John85back10:12
EightynineWhen trying to paste numbers from clipboard Kcalc says nan. Why?10:17
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John85im getting really annoyed with my lap top right now10:35
FritigernEightynine: NaN stands for "Not a Number", make sure to paste only numbers. Even leading/trailing spaces can sometimes cause this issue10:37
FritigernEightynine: Also, make sure that the number you are trying to paste does not conatina a comma when a period is expected by KCalc, or vice versa.10:41
John85seriously considering going back to windows :(10:46
John85i just don't know enough about kubuntu10:47
BluesKajhow did you upgrade from 14.04?10:49
John85clean install10:49
John85reformatted partitions too just to be sure10:50
BluesKajall on one partition?10:50
John85310:50
John85root,  home and swap10:50
BluesKajso all were formatted. no residual data left on them ?10:51
John85yep10:52
BluesKajdid you update and upgrade immediately afterwards?10:53
John85its just a case of trying to get it up and running as it was before10:54
BluesKajyour packages with apt , I mean10:54
John85yep,  i will have to check terminal history10:55
BluesKajyou have to do, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade as son as you get a desktop after your first boot on the new OS10:56
John85oh :(10:56
John85ye,  that wasnt the command i used10:56
BluesKajnot all images are up to date10:56
John85the problem is,  discover is running and its stuck,  i think its because i temporarily lost connection,  and it wont let me close it either10:57
John85should i try forcing it?10:59
BluesKajopen system monitor in kmenu>system type discover in the search , right click on pid and either terminate or kill11:00
John85k11:00
John85ok,  now ill try running that command11:00
BluesKajthen a sudo apt full-upgrade is sometimes in order as well11:01
John85ok11:01
John85ok,  says 0 to upgrade or remove or install11:03
BluesKajdid you see the message "all packages up to date" ?11:04
John85yep11:05
BluesKajok11:05
BluesKajok sudo apt install amarok11:06
John85already newset version11:07
John85*newest11:07
BluesKajgood11:07
BluesKajwhat else do you need ?11:07
John85for Amarok to work,  GIMP and i would quite like Ksquares too but cant find them in discover11:08
BluesKajJohn85, I recommend installing muon, it's a much better package manager than the discover version11:09
John85i have searched the forums for fixes for Amarok,  but nothing seems to work,  and i cant remember what i did last time to get it to play wma's or mp3's11:09
BluesKajmy opinion of amarok is mixed, I seldom use it, prefer vlc for most media11:11
John85ye,  i have installed VLC but cant work out how to import music library11:11
John85last time there was an import option somewhere11:12
John85ok,  i got it :)11:14
BluesKajif i want to play awhole album , i just go into the music folder, find the album, open the folder click edit>select all then righ click on the highliighted tunes and choose open with vlc...i don't bother with clunky playlists11:15
John85k11:16
BluesKajvlc will then paly the whole album in the correct order11:16
John85im going to persevere with Amarok,  i have got it to work in the past,  so I should be able to get it working again11:17
BluesKajwell, that's your call11:17
John85tbo,  i prefer the interface11:18
BluesKajI always had problems with amarok recognizing albums and would skip over some for unknoen reasons when importing into the list11:20
John85any playback problems?11:25
BluesKajnone that I recall11:27
John85i can play back wav files,  but thats all11:27
BluesKajI organize my music library on the back end, music players are just that to me, all they should do is play11:29
John85yes,  i just wish they would11:30
BluesKajthen your mp3 plugin must be missing11:30
John85and wma11:31
John85most are wma11:31
BluesKajmine are mostly wav/lossless11:32
BluesKajbut amarok is supposed to play practically any format right off11:33
John85thats probably why you dont have issues playing back11:33
BluesKajmp3 plays fine on vlc. I do have a few11:33
BluesKajJohn85, try the #amarok chat11:35
John85i could convert them,  but that could take ages and would probably take up another 50GB of disk space,  at least11:35
BluesKajsound quality won't change either11:35
John85ok11:35
John85ill give the amarok channel a try11:36
John85bye for now11:37
EightynineSound volume is at 100% but in fact it's low. Is it possible to fix that? People here gave me advice to put master at least at 84% on alsa and I did 88. It didn't help.12:54
_Wens_hi all! how to disable packagekit service on kubuntu 17.04?13:49
BluesKaj_Wens_, what is doing that makes you want to disable it, the only method I can see is remove it14:25
marco-parilloQuestion on Snaps versus PPAs: When I add a PPA, my normal apt processes (discover or command line) update the packages in there also. Do they also execute sudo snap refresh under the covers, or does that need to be part of my routine housekeeping (and is there an 'updates' available notification for snaps)?14:51
_Wens_‎BluesKaj‎, i want disable auto search update on startup14:55
BluesKaj_Wens_, you probly mean unattended upgrades, just uninstall it14:56
BluesKajjust make sure you update and upgrade a couple times/wk14:57
_Wens_‎BluesKaj‎, thank you14:59
BluesKaj_Wens_,  you're welcome :-)15:00
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IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> Good day everyone!17:03
BluesKajhi DGUERRERO17:04
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @BluesKaj, Hi, how are you and how's your Kubuntu running?17:20
BluesKajDGUERRERO,it's running very well17:24
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> I'm having a bug with networkmamager and plasma, but I'm probably the only one with it17:39
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> When I'm connecting to a network with DHCP, the entire plasma freezes until the DHCP setup has finished17:41
BluesKajDGUERRERO, I must confess i don't run network-manager, using a static lan ip and i control the network connection in the interfaces file17:57
BluesKaj in /etc/network/interfaces17:57
zorinhow do i get this module to work http://codepad.org/ZmikYs1I18:39
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> The thing is I work with networking, so I have to test constantly DNS, Dhcp, Nat, public IPs, etc....18:47
user|82232hi >> i use kubuntu 16.010 , i want uprade it to 17.04 but i delete all scusrs18:47
user|82232how i can update it ?!18:47
marcus__yd19:10
marcus__hey19:10
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marcus__bye then19:11
marcus__hello20:03
marcus__guys20:03
marco-parilloand gals20:10
marco-parilloHow many goodly creatures are there here! / How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world / That has such people in't!20:12
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alesanhello20:21
alesanI'm running Kubuntu 16.04.220:21
alesanwihch should be thelatest LTS20:22
alesanwhat is the name of the login manager? the entity that asks for userbame and password before entering in the graphical environment20:22
marcus__hey20:23
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marcus__hi20:25
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @alesan, Hi, in Kubuntu 16.04 LTS the login manager is lightdm20:32
alesanIrcsomeBot, thanks, yes I see it in the process list20:33
alesanhow can I change the timeout when one enters a wrong password20:33
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @DGUERRERO, Sorry, no, I was thinking in 14.04, in 16.04 should be sddm20:33
alesansddm?20:33
alesanthat is not in the process list20:34
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @alesan, Sddm is the systemd daemon I  think20:35
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> Can you run "systemctl status sddm"20:35
alesan● sddm.service - Simple Desktop Display Manager20:36
alesan   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service; static; vendor preset: enabled)20:36
alesan   Active: inactive (dead)20:36
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @alesan, As your original question, do you want to reduce or extend the timeout?20:43
alesanreduce20:45
alesanideally to zero for the first two or three attempts and then leave it as it is20:45
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @alesan, Could be wrong, but I think it can't be zero, but you can disable it. I don't remember right now the exact file who does that, I think is /etc/pam.d/commom-auth or /etc/pam.d/login20:48
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> Sorry can't help you fine, but currently I'm on a bus heading home20:50
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