[00:29] <marcus__> heyyy
[09:29] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[09:30] <John85> hey :)
[09:31] <John85> not sure why i put a smiley face to be honest
[09:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning John85
[09:34] <John85> good morning
[09:40] <John85> so I just installed 17.04 fresh, after trying to update from 14.04, and failing
[09:41] <John85> now im back to square one with all the issues such as Amarok and Dragon not playing anything,  also can not find GIMP in software center,  or any other apps I want
[09:43] <John85> tried this...sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg...that did'nt help
[09:54] <Eightynine> I tried to install Konversation (it installed correctly) but apt said this: These packages had been installed automatically and not longer needed: gstreamer1.0-libav libavfilter-ffmpeg5 libavresample-ffmpeg2 libpostproc-ffmpeg53 libsodium18 libzmq5 Is this normal behavior?
[09:59] <BluesKaj> Eightynine, yes those libs have been replaced with upgraded versions
[10:00] <BluesKaj> John85, install ffmpeg, and try a more recent media player
[10:01] <John85> ok will do,  thanks BluesKaj
[10:02] <BluesKaj> dragonplayer is ok for pc desktop veiwing , but if you want a hone theater experince, mpv and vlc work well and of course kodi
[10:03] <BluesKaj> home theater meaning the pc is connected to a tv and audio amp/receiver system
[10:04] <John85> ,  i usually stick to desktop viewing
[10:04] <John85> i have HDMI port,  but rarely use it
[10:05] <John85> brb
[10:12] <John85> back
[10:17] <Eightynine> When trying to paste numbers from clipboard Kcalc says nan. Why?
[10:35] <John85> im getting really annoyed with my lap top right now
[10:37] <Fritigern> Eightynine: NaN stands for "Not a Number", make sure to paste only numbers. Even leading/trailing spaces can sometimes cause this issue
[10:41] <Fritigern> Eightynine: Also, make sure that the number you are trying to paste does not conatina a comma when a period is expected by KCalc, or vice versa.
[10:46] <John85> seriously considering going back to windows :(
[10:47] <John85> i just don't know enough about kubuntu
[10:49] <BluesKaj> how did you upgrade from 14.04?
[10:49] <John85> clean install
[10:50] <John85> reformatted partitions too just to be sure
[10:50] <BluesKaj> all on one partition?
[10:50] <John85> 3
[10:50] <John85> root,  home and swap
[10:51] <BluesKaj> so all were formatted. no residual data left on them ?
[10:52] <John85> yep
[10:53] <BluesKaj> did you update and upgrade immediately afterwards?
[10:54] <John85> its just a case of trying to get it up and running as it was before
[10:54] <BluesKaj> your packages with apt , I mean
[10:55] <John85> yep,  i will have to check terminal history
[10:56] <BluesKaj> you have to do, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade as son as you get a desktop after your first boot on the new OS
[10:56] <John85> oh :(
[10:56] <John85> ye,  that wasnt the command i used
[10:56] <BluesKaj> not all images are up to date
[10:57] <John85> the problem is,  discover is running and its stuck,  i think its because i temporarily lost connection,  and it wont let me close it either
[10:59] <John85> should i try forcing it?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> open system monitor in kmenu>system type discover in the search , right click on pid and either terminate or kill
[11:00] <John85> k
[11:00] <John85> ok,  now ill try running that command
[11:01] <BluesKaj> then a sudo apt full-upgrade is sometimes in order as well
[11:01] <John85> ok
[11:03] <John85> ok,  says 0 to upgrade or remove or install
[11:04] <BluesKaj> did you see the message "all packages up to date" ?
[11:05] <John85> yep
[11:05] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:06] <BluesKaj> ok sudo apt install amarok
[11:07] <John85> already newset version
[11:07] <John85> *newest
[11:07] <BluesKaj> good
[11:07] <BluesKaj> what else do you need ?
[11:08] <John85> for Amarok to work,  GIMP and i would quite like Ksquares too but cant find them in discover
[11:09] <BluesKaj> John85, I recommend installing muon, it's a much better package manager than the discover version
[11:09] <John85> i have searched the forums for fixes for Amarok,  but nothing seems to work,  and i cant remember what i did last time to get it to play wma's or mp3's
[11:11] <BluesKaj> my opinion of amarok is mixed, I seldom use it, prefer vlc for most media
[11:11] <John85> ye,  i have installed VLC but cant work out how to import music library
[11:12] <John85> last time there was an import option somewhere
[11:14] <John85> ok,  i got it :)
[11:15] <BluesKaj> if i want to play awhole album , i just go into the music folder, find the album, open the folder click edit>select all then righ click on the highliighted tunes and choose open with vlc...i don't bother with clunky playlists
[11:16] <John85> k
[11:16] <BluesKaj> vlc will then paly the whole album in the correct order
[11:17] <John85> im going to persevere with Amarok,  i have got it to work in the past,  so I should be able to get it working again
[11:17] <BluesKaj> well, that's your call
[11:18] <John85> tbo,  i prefer the interface
[11:20] <BluesKaj> I always had problems with amarok recognizing albums and would skip over some for unknoen reasons when importing into the list
[11:25] <John85> any playback problems?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> none that I recall
[11:27] <John85> i can play back wav files,  but thats all
[11:29] <BluesKaj> I organize my music library on the back end, music players are just that to me, all they should do is play
[11:30] <John85> yes,  i just wish they would
[11:30] <BluesKaj> then your mp3 plugin must be missing
[11:31] <John85> and wma
[11:31] <John85> most are wma
[11:32] <BluesKaj> mine are mostly wav/lossless
[11:33] <BluesKaj> but amarok is supposed to play practically any format right off
[11:33] <John85> thats probably why you dont have issues playing back
[11:33] <BluesKaj> mp3 plays fine on vlc. I do have a few
[11:35] <BluesKaj> John85, try the #amarok chat
[11:35] <John85> i could convert them,  but that could take ages and would probably take up another 50GB of disk space,  at least
[11:35] <BluesKaj> sound quality won't change either
[11:35] <John85> ok
[11:36] <John85> ill give the amarok channel a try
[11:37] <John85> bye for now
[12:54] <Eightynine> Sound volume is at 100% but in fact it's low. Is it possible to fix that? People here gave me advice to put master at least at 84% on alsa and I did 88. It didn't help.
[13:49] <_Wens_> hi all! how to disable packagekit service on kubuntu 17.04?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> _Wens_, what is doing that makes you want to disable it, the only method I can see is remove it
[14:51] <marco-parillo> Question on Snaps versus PPAs: When I add a PPA, my normal apt processes (discover or command line) update the packages in there also. Do they also execute sudo snap refresh under the covers, or does that need to be part of my routine housekeeping (and is there an 'updates' available notification for snaps)?
[14:55] <_Wens_> ‎BluesKaj‎, i want disable auto search update on startup
[14:56] <BluesKaj> _Wens_, you probly mean unattended upgrades, just uninstall it
[14:57] <BluesKaj> just make sure you update and upgrade a couple times/wk
[14:59] <_Wens_> ‎BluesKaj‎, thank you
[15:00] <BluesKaj> _Wens_,  you're welcome :-)
 Good day everyone!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> hi DGUERRERO
 @BluesKaj, Hi, how are you and how's your Kubuntu running?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> DGUERRERO,it's running very well
 I'm having a bug with networkmamager and plasma, but I'm probably the only one with it
 When I'm connecting to a network with DHCP, the entire plasma freezes until the DHCP setup has finished
[17:57] <BluesKaj> DGUERRERO, I must confess i don't run network-manager, using a static lan ip and i control the network connection in the interfaces file
[17:57] <BluesKaj>  in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:39] <zorin> how do i get this module to work http://codepad.org/ZmikYs1I
 The thing is I work with networking, so I have to test constantly DNS, Dhcp, Nat, public IPs, etc....
[18:47] <user|82232> hi >> i use kubuntu 16.010 , i want uprade it to 17.04 but i delete all scusrs
[18:47] <user|82232> how i can update it ?!
[19:10] <marcus__> yd
[19:10] <marcus__> hey
[19:10] <marcus__> guys
[19:11] <marcus__> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[19:11] <marcus__> bye then
[20:03] <marcus__> hello
[20:03] <marcus__> guys
[20:10] <marco-parillo> and gals
[20:12] <marco-parillo> How many goodly creatures are there here! / How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world / That has such people in't!
[20:21] <alesan> hello
[20:21] <alesan> I'm running Kubuntu 16.04.2
[20:22] <alesan> wihch should be thelatest LTS
[20:22] <alesan> what is the name of the login manager? the entity that asks for userbame and password before entering in the graphical environment
[20:23] <marcus__> hey
[20:24] <marcus__> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:24] <marcus__> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:24] <marcus__> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:25] <marcus__> hi
 @alesan, Hi, in Kubuntu 16.04 LTS the login manager is lightdm
[20:33] <alesan> IrcsomeBot, thanks, yes I see it in the process list
[20:33] <alesan> how can I change the timeout when one enters a wrong password
 @DGUERRERO, Sorry, no, I was thinking in 14.04, in 16.04 should be sddm
[20:33] <alesan> sddm?
[20:34] <alesan> that is not in the process list
 @alesan, Sddm is the systemd daemon I  think
 Can you run "systemctl status sddm"
[20:36] <alesan> ● sddm.service - Simple Desktop Display Manager
[20:36] <alesan>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service; static; vendor preset: enabled)
[20:36] <alesan>    Active: inactive (dead)
 @alesan, As your original question, do you want to reduce or extend the timeout?
[20:45] <alesan> reduce
[20:45] <alesan> ideally to zero for the first two or three attempts and then leave it as it is
 @alesan, Could be wrong, but I think it can't be zero, but you can disable it. I don't remember right now the exact file who does that, I think is /etc/pam.d/commom-auth or /etc/pam.d/login
 Sorry can't help you fine, but currently I'm on a bus heading home
[21:04] <marcus__> hey de fiance