[00:30] <AncientOfDays> Is there a PPC version of Lubuntu?
[01:42] <lamduh> is there a way to restore lxterminal to its defaults? I just uninstalled zsh and want to get back to how I was
[14:04] <n-iCe> hi
[15:28] <Student1> Hi. New to Lubuntu. Need help!
[15:28] <n-iCe> ask
[15:29] <LuMint> Student1: hello
[15:29] <LuMint> Student1: what is it?
[15:29] <Student1> Trying to install Libreoffice using Terminal and I keep getting error messages.
[15:30] <Student1> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[15:30] <Student1> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:31] <LuMint> did you?
[15:31] <LuMint> had u used sudo?
[15:31] <Student1> I am using commands from the Lubuntu forum but it isn't working. I keep rebooting and trying different versions of sudo apt and apt get type commands to no avail
[15:33] <LuMint> execute these
[15:33] <Student1> It was working before. I think initially the issue was I only did the first command sudo apt get update and then just typed a bunch of commands afterward
[15:33] <LuMint> close terminal window
[15:33] <Student1> Closed
[15:33] <LuMint> every instance you have, close it
[15:33] <LuMint> right
[15:33] <LuMint> now open it and type
[15:34] <LuMint> sudo apt update
[15:34] <LuMint> and hit enter
[15:34] <LuMint> ready?
[15:34] <Student1> 1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
[15:35] <LuMint> now
[15:35] <LuMint> sudo apt install libreoffice
[15:36] <Student1> I went ahead and ran the upgrade command
[15:36] <LuMint> sure, why not
[15:36] <Student1> ttf-mscorefonts-installer/zesty 3.4+nmu1ubuntu2 all [upgradable from: 3.4+nmu1ubuntu2] N: There is 1 additional version. Please use the '-a' switch to see it
[15:37] <LuMint> why are you telling us this? are we installing libreoffice or what?
[15:37] <Student1> The blue and gray box from Microsoft asking me to give permission kept coming up and I thought that may be the error.
[15:37] <Student1> I'll type it in yes now thanks
[15:37] <LuMint> don't interrupt the upgrade process
[15:37] <LuMint> if it's not finished yet
[15:38] <LuMint> it's a bad idea to interrupt it
[15:38] <Student1> It was a static screen.
[15:38] <Student1> It didn't seem to be doing anything. It seemed to be asking for my response but I hit enter, etc...and nothing happened
[15:39] <Student1> The command seems to be installing Libreoffice now
[15:39] <LuMint> yes, because you executed it with sufficient permissions
[15:39] <LuMint> (sudo)
[15:40] <Student1> I typed sudo each time before I'm pretty sure.
[15:40] <Student1> Here it is again
[15:40] <LuMint> what, could not open /var/lib ?
[15:40] <LuMint> this message?
[15:41] <Student1> The package configuration ttf fonts installer
[15:41] <LuMint> what about it?
[15:41] <Student1> Is it done? It says <Ok>
[15:41] <LuMint> probably is
[15:41] <LuMint> input lowriter in terminal and hit enter
[15:42] <LuMint> that's the quieckest way of making sure its ok
[15:42] <Student1> I can't input anything in this terminal window
[15:42] <Student1> It seems like it is waiting for my response but no response is acknowledged.
[15:43] <LuMint> please copy paste the latest line
[15:43] <LuMint> what does it say
[15:43] <LuMint> maybe it wants you to input y or n
[15:43] <Student1> I had to use the arrow key below. Figured it out.
[15:43] <LuMint> right
[15:43] <LuMint> you can also use ctrl+l
[15:43] <LuMint> to clear the screen
[15:43] <LuMint> so
[15:43] <LuMint> doew lowriter command work?
[15:44] <Student1> Just input, 'lowriter'?
[15:44] <Student1> It's unpacking a bunch now
[15:44] <LuMint> did it
[15:44] <LuMint> finish intalling libreoffice or not?
[15:45] <LuMint> oris it in process?
[15:46] <Student1> It did. I typed lowriter and there's a ton of all caps yellow font WARNING
[15:47] <LuMint> do you see libreoffice writerwindow?
[15:48] <Student1> A screen showing Libreoffice popped up then went away and I see it's been added under office in the start menu
[15:49] <LuMint> Student1: tell me it works
[15:50] <Student1> Yes it works
[15:50] <LuMint> nice
[15:50] <Student1> Thank you
[15:50] <LuMint> there should be any warnings though.
[15:50] <LuMint> on 14.04
[15:50] <LuMint> but you're on 16.04
[15:51] <Student1> 17.04
[15:51] <LuMint> and, secondly, warnings are normal when launching programms from terminal
[15:51] <LuMint> in linux world
[15:51] <Student1> Oh ok
[15:51] <Student1> How do I delete abiword?
[15:51] <LuMint> you should launch it from terminal to see what's wrong with it
[15:51] <LuMint> sudo apt purge abiword
[15:51] <LuMint> and maybe
[15:52] <LuMint> sudo apt-get --autoremove afterwards
[15:52] <Student1> What does that last command do?
[15:52] <LuMint> removes leftovers
[15:52] <LuMint> usually apt tells you if there are some
[15:52] <LuMint> and suggests you execute this command
[15:52] <Student1> Is it all one line?
[15:52] <LuMint> if it doesn't
[15:52] <LuMint> don't run it if it doesn't, because why bother
[15:53] <LuMint> u can make it one line yes
[15:53] <LuMint> use ;
[15:53] <LuMint> or better yet
[15:53] <LuMint> &&
[15:53] <LuMint> like when ur installing something
[15:53] <LuMint> sudo apt update && sudo apt install -y programmname
[15:53] <LuMint> -y stands for YES to every prompt made during installation
[15:54] <LuMint> you want to add yes if you are lazy
[15:54] <LuMint> usually, i dont
[15:54] <Student1> I typed in lowriter again
[15:54] <LuMint> just start it the normal way
[15:54] <LuMint> alt+f2 or winkey+r
[15:54] <Student1> It started to run then stopped and says a bunch of stuff
[15:55] <LuMint> close terminal window
[15:55] <LuMint> and open it the regular way
[15:55] <LuMint> either from start menu
[15:55] <LuMint> or
[15:55] <LuMint> alt+f2 or winkey+r
[15:55] <LuMint> and lowriter typed into
[15:56] <Student1> It isn't fully running that way
[15:56] <Student1> It starts then stops and the message saying it quit unexpectedly
[15:57] <LuMint> any more detail?
[15:57] <LuMint> start it from terminal and copy paste the output, warnings, errors
[15:57] <LuMint> pastebin it
[15:58] <Student1> (soffice:7183): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:23:18: not a number  (soffice:7183): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:23:18: Expected a string.  (soffice:7183): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:815:10: not a number  (soffice:7183): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:815:24: Using Pango syntax for the font: style property is deprecated; please use CSS sy
[15:59] <Student1> And yes it seems it still isn't working...
[15:59] <Student1> It opens and immediately closes
[16:02] <LuMint> idk, i don't see anything serious
[16:02] <Student1> It doesn't work though
[16:02] <LuMint> https://askubuntu.com/questions/930760/ubuntu-17-04-libreoffice-crashes-on-start
[16:03] <LuMint> https://askubuntu.com/questions/927859/libreoffice-writer-crashes-on-start?noredirect=1
[16:03] <LuMint> https://askubuntu.com/questions/623373/libreoffice-crash?noredirect=1
[16:03] <LuMint> idk you could try reconfiguring loffice
[16:03] <LuMint> those warnings of yours don't look serious to me
[16:04] <Student1> The 1st link you sent suggests I update because it could be a kernel issue. How do I do that?
[16:05] <LuMint> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:07] <LuMint> and of course you may purge libreoffice and try installing it again. for all I know you may have interrupted the installation process so it hasn't finished correctlyor whatever
[16:07] <LuMint> i can't rule that out completely
[16:08] <Student1> I did the command you just stated and it finished. It no longer says my computer name, just shows, ">".
[16:09] <LuMint> screenshot please
[16:09] <LuMint> if you can
[16:09] <LuMint> or try hittign ctrl+l
[16:09] <LuMint> does it change?
[16:10] <Student1> ubottu > ubuntulog > Unit193 > venzen > xMopxShell > yofel >
[16:11] <Student1> I don't know how to screenshot.
[16:11] <Student1> That's the text shown. I tried another sudo apt command to get vlc and it shows only, >
[16:12] <LuMint> what did you execute?
[16:12] <LuMint> where did you do it?
[16:12] <LuMint> Student1: xfce-screenshoter
[16:12] <Student1> I closed that window and reopened terminal and now it shows as normal.
[16:13] <LuMint> sudo apt install xfce4-screenshooter
[16:16] <Student1> Ok. I have that program now.
[16:16] <Student1> What do I do to get Libreoffice working though?
[16:16] <LuMint> so you can screenshot whatever you want
[16:17] <LuMint> sudo apt update
[16:17] <Student1> Now yes thanks to you
[16:17] <LuMint> wait
[16:17] <LuMint> sudo apt update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:17] <LuMint> if something fails make a screenshot
[16:18] <LuMint> then if that doesn't help you can purge libreoffice and then install it again to see if it works
[16:18] <Student1> It didn't fail
[16:18] <LuMint> for more help ask around here or visit #ubuntu
[16:18] <LuMint> i got to go
[16:18] <Student1> Ok thanks a lot I appreciate that!
[16:18] <LuMint> on #ubuntu there are more people and this problem of yours is by no means LXDE specific
[16:18] <LuMint> that is, it's not lubuntu specific
[16:18] <LuMint> yw
[16:19] <LuMint> Student1: sorry it hasn't worked out well enough yet...
[16:21] <Student1> It put me in unregged
[16:22] <Joana_Ribeiro> hello there
[16:22] <LuMint> Student1: /say /join #freenode
[16:22] <LuMint> and register a nickname
[16:22] <LuMint> if you cant post there
[16:24] <Joana_Ribeiro> i've chosen a nickname already, before joining this chat...
[16:24] <Joana_Ribeiro> i just wanted to ask a question
[16:24] <Joana_Ribeiro> or get some guidance
[16:24] <Joana_Ribeiro> i need to upgrade my version of lubuntu from 14.04 LTS to 17.04 LTS, but i can't figure how
[16:25] <Unit193> 17.04 isn't an LTS, 16.04 is.
[16:25] <LuMint> Joana_Ribeiro: something with release-upgrade
[16:26] <LuMint> it'll upgrade you to 16.04
[16:27] <LuMint> sudo apt update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <LuMint> do these and you'll have the latest LTS, that is 16.04
[16:27] <LuMint> if has relatively new software and its stable enough for most users.
[16:27] <LuMint> anyway
[16:27] <LuMint> to change to 17.04 youd only have to change the base repos.
[16:28] <LuMint> then run apt update and apt upgrade and pray nothing breaks
[16:28] <Joana_Ribeiro> and where can i find the rigth repository to get 17.04 ?
[16:28] <Joana_Ribeiro> right*
[16:28] <Unit193> No, it's the same process you just have to change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:29] <LuMint> Unit193: one can also do it my way. just saying.
[16:29] <LuMint> yours is better, though
[16:29] <Unit193> I'm aware it works, I've had to do it the Debian Way™ when the other broke once.
[16:30] <Joana_Ribeiro> so, i have to upgrade 2 times to get the 17.04 version?
[16:31] <LuMint> i'd do it gradually if I were you.
[16:31] <LuMint> first 16.04 then 17.04 if everything is okay.
[16:31] <Joana_Ribeiro> ok, i'll try this, thanks
[16:31] <Joana_Ribeiro> =)
[16:33] <LuMint> good luck
[16:51] <Student1> I purged libreoffice then reinstalled it and it still doesn't work. Same warning errors.
[16:54] <Student1> How do I post a screenshot
[16:55] <tsimonq2> Student1: Go to imgur and put it there :)
[16:56] <Student1> I don't know what that means
[16:57] <tsimonq2> Student1: http://imgur.com/
[16:57] <tsimonq2> Student1: Click "New Post" at the top
[16:57] <tsimonq2> And follow the instructions :)
[16:58] <tsimonq2> Then, give me the URL of the site it redirects you to.
[16:58] <Student1> I need an account to post an image? There's no other way to do it directly on here?
[16:59] <tsimonq2> Nope
[16:59] <tsimonq2> And you don't need an account?
[16:59] <tsimonq2> You just need somewhere to put the pic, Student1
[16:59] <tsimonq2> That's just an example
[17:05] <Student1> http://i.imgur.com/adRdXdm.png
[17:08] <tsimonq2> Student1: Those are just warning messages
[17:08] <tsimonq2> LibreOffice doesn't start at all?
[17:09] <Student1> It says Libreoffice across the screen as though it is starting and then nothing happens.
[18:00] <LuMint> tsimonq2: actually it's a built in function of xfce-screenshooter
[18:00] <LuMint> upload to imgur
[18:01] <tsimonq2> LuMint: That too :P
[18:01] <LuMint> tsimonq2: any idea what could be wrong w/ his install?
[18:01] <LuMint> I feel sorry about libreoffice not working :( it's something that should work ootb
[18:04] <tsimonq2> LuMint: I'm not sure :(
[18:04] <tsimonq2> !ask
[18:04] <tsimonq2> I don't know the answer
[18:04] <tsimonq2> So I'm not replying :P
[18:05] <LuMint> me neither
[18:05] <LuMint> i fail to see how these gtk warnings could lead to lowriter not starting
[18:05] <LuMint> doesn't make sense
[18:05] <LuMint> what does makes sense is his using 17.04
[18:05] <LuMint> an unstable release
[18:06] <tsimonq2> LuMint: That's a stable release
[18:06] <LuMint> right
[18:07] <helpplease> having issues with software update on 17.04. keeps saying no internet connection
[18:07] <LuMint> tsimonq2: turns out it's not exactly stable, is it?
[18:07] <Student1> LuMint, you're saying I should use a different version then of Lubuntu?
[18:08] <LuMint> Student1: if you have a new install, I'd go for 16.04
[18:08] <LuMint> Student1: have you approached the guys on #ubuntu yet?
[18:09] <LuMint> there's much more people there
[18:09] <LuMint> Student1: I take it purging and reinstalling didn't solve the problem, am I right?
[18:09] <Student1> I can change it. The ubuntu chat put me in unregulated or something because of there being so many spammers
[18:09] <LuMint> you should go to #freenode and register a nickname
[18:09]  * n-iCe dances
[18:09] <LuMint> it's simple and fast
[18:10] <Student1> I purged and reinstalled 5+ times...
[18:10] <Student1> freenode?
[18:10] <Student1> For?
[18:10] <helpplease> any known issues with software updater lubuntu 17.04?
[18:10] <LuMint> /join #freenode
[18:10] <LuMint> that's what you have to enter in your IRC client
[18:10] <Student1> I really don't know what any of that is
[18:11] <LuMint> and tell them you want to have your nickname registered
[18:11] <LuMint> right
[18:11] <LuMint> there's an internet messaging protocol, called IRC
[18:11] <LuMint> it's a centralized protocol in that there are servers and clients connecting to them
[18:12] <LuMint> the server(actually it's a network of servers, but anyways) we are currently using is  called Freenode
[18:12] <LuMint> you are (presumably) using Hexchat client
[18:12] <LuMint> now Freenode has support channel called #freenode
[18:12] <LuMint> to join it you either have to use graphical user interface
[18:13] <LuMint> or simply enter /join #freenode (you can do it right here!) and hit enter
[18:16] <LuMint> Student1: has it worked for you?
[18:19] <Student1> This worked. https://askubuntu.com/questions/927859/libreoffice-writer-crashes-on-start. Tools - Options - Advanced - Deselect Java Environment and now it works!
[18:20] <LuMint> it's been 2 hrs since i posted it ;)
[18:20] <n-iCe> haha
[18:21] <LuMint> Student1: you'll learn pretty quick and it's not going to take you that long should you (God forbid) have problems with your OS again
[18:22] <LuMint> Student1: great to hear it works :)
[18:27] <Mmossi> Hi... just installed lubuntu 17.04 and having trouble connecting wifi. OK connecting to ether net. I don't know how to configure wifi. Can some one help?
[18:27] <n-iCe> Mmossi: sure, is your card detected?
[18:28] <Mmossi> Maybe not. I don't know how to tell.
[18:28] <n-iCe> ok, go to a terminal, and use the command 'dmesg'
[18:28] <n-iCe> do you see errors about your wifi card?
[18:28] <n-iCe> or driver wifi card
[18:29] <Mmossi> Give me a sec
[18:30] <n-iCe> or use, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[18:30] <n-iCe> and paste in here the url at the end
[18:38] <Mmossi> I ran the desegregation command. I see an entry that says b43/ucode15.fw not found.
[18:38] <Mmossi> Go to wireless.kernel.organization to get the correct firmware.
[18:39] <n-iCe> you using lubuntu?
[18:40] <Mmossi> Yes
[18:40] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[18:40] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:40] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:40] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[18:40] <Mmossi> I type those commands?
[18:40] <n-iCe> sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[18:40] <n-iCe> sudo reboot
[18:40] <n-iCe> of course.
[18:41] <Mmossi> OK. Hold on.
[18:45] <Mmossi> It is installing b43
[18:45] <n-iCe> good
[18:46] <Mmossi> I am rebooting
[18:47] <Mmossi> After rebooting should I run dmesg?
[18:48] <n-iCe> after reboot try your wifi, if does not work, check dmesg and come back here
[18:48] <Mmossi> The wifi is there. I wil. Try it.
[18:48] <n-iCe> good
[18:48] <n-iCe> try
[18:50] <Mmossi> It connected. Thank you very much.
[18:51] <n-iCe> no problem
[20:06] <Mmossi> Hi, do you know if there is a version of Google Chrome that I can run on lubuntu?
[20:51] <LuMint> i can't start multiple x sessions for some reason
[20:51] <LuMint> on Linux Mint I could go to tty2 and startx from there
[20:51] <LuMint> as a result, the second X session would be nested on tty8 or tty9, don't recall exactly
[20:51] <LuMint> actually, on tty8
[20:52] <LuMint> in Lubuntu, when I go to tty2 and startx, I simply can't switch to this xsession I've just started
[20:52] <LuMint> how do I fix that?