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Trevinhodobey: I guess seb has reasons for that, better to ask him...00:45
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jibelmorning05:16
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:02
jibelsalut oSoMoN06:04
oSoMoNsalut jibel06:24
seb128good morning desktopers07:07
oSoMoNsalut seb12807:13
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ?07:13
oSoMoNen forme, et toi?07:13
c-lobranomorning all :)07:13
seb128je suis pas encore bien réveillé mais sinon ça va :-)07:13
seb128hey c-lobrano07:14
c-lobranohey seb12807:14
c-lobranohey Trevinho, I've a new patch for bug 1704745 which seems nicer to non-libreoffice applications (e.g. gitg), do you have a moment to review it?07:19
ubot5bug 1704745 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Ambiance light-themes - LibreOffice has a white square top right" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170474507:19
seb128c-lobrano, he's having a vac day today07:33
c-lobranoseb128: oh lucky him :D, no prob, thanks07:34
flexiondotorgMorning desktopers07:57
oSoMoNgood morning flexiondotorg08:00
seb128hey flexiondotorg, how are you?08:01
Laneyhiiiiiiiiiii08:02
flexiondotorgAll good here.08:02
seb128oh, and good morning Laney!08:02
flexiondotorgLaney o/08:02
seb128it's that time of the day already it seems :-)08:02
seb128how is u.k today?08:02
flexiondotorgGrey08:02
seb128it's raining quite a lot here today08:03
seb128summer seems over, shame :-/08:03
Laneyyeah raining08:03
Laneyhey seb128 et flexiondotorg08:03
tseliotLaney: hey, so, yes, a review is still needed. Upstream is not being very responsive now08:04
Laneytseliot: ok, will do08:08
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seb128Laney, is https://trello.com/c/4xS7Ezlu/87-bug1643134-switch-to-packagekit-aptcc-backend done?08:28
seb128seems to be to me but maybe you want to keep it to track extra changes or something?08:28
Laneyyes08:30
Laneyno08:30
Laneyyou can move it08:30
tseliotLaney: thanks08:31
seb128thanks08:31
seb128jibel, do you join the bluetooth hangout today?09:01
jibelseb128, yes I can09:03
jibellet me grab my headset09:03
seb128jibel, k, as you want, unsure there is much to discuss but we were unsure if you were coming so waiting for you a bit but we started now09:04
tsimonq2seb128: Hey there, the MP for this ended up in the Sponsorship Queue, any chance you could take a look when you can? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/151454409:17
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1514544 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "always set "xkb,us" despite set of other layout when input-sources is empty" [Low,Confirmed]09:17
tsimonq2(they responded to the bug but I guess you're not subscribed)09:17
tsimonq2(I'm thinking since it might be a Unity thing that it's obsolete, in which case could you please mark it as such?)09:18
seb128hey tsimonq2, unity is still in universe and the same problem might happen in GNOME09:18
seb128unsure why Japan is special09:18
seb128but yeah, I can try to have a look but not today, my todo is already full enough09:18
tsimonq2seb128: ack :)09:18
jbichaseb128: could you promote n-m-config-connectivity-ubuntu to main?10:25
seb128hey jbicha10:25
seb128jbicha, better to give exact package names when so I can copy to the command next time10:27
seb128jbicha, but done10:28
jbichait's such a long name though! ;)10:29
seb128hehe10:29
seb128jbicha, sorry I had to go after the meeting yesterday, so for gjs what you wanted exactly?10:30
seb128gjs, gnome-sushi, gnome-weather removed from artful-proposed10:30
seb128sources+binaries? or just some arch?10:30
jbichaLaney: did we still want to do the temporary gjs removal now or should we wait to see how your mozjs52 work is going?10:31
seb128jbicha, what is gjs blocking?10:31
Laneythought you already did it10:32
LaneyI can try my package quickly10:32
jbichaok, let's wait a bit longer now10:32
seb128Laney, I planned to do but got called away from the computer by a needy kid and couldn't come back :-/10:32
Laneykids these days have no respect for the ubuntu archive10:33
seb128yeah, what's up with that!10:34
tsimonq2hey :P10:35
seb128shrug10:38
seb128org.gnome.Shell.desktop[20375]: (EE) Backt10:38
seb128race:10:38
seb128 org.gnome.Shell.desktop[20375]: (EE) 0: /usr/bin/Xwayland (xorg_backtrace+0x4d) [0x9cc664763d]10:38
seb128starting kvm segfaulted xwayland and closed my session10:38
seb128I was in middle of some g-c-c patch updating and debugging10:38
* seb128 is grumpy10:39
seb128ok, no vm for me today I guess10:41
seb128:-/10:41
seb128jbicha, Laney, any idea how to get the multiarch lib dir at runtime with the default iso depends (which means not dpkgè-architecture from dpkg-dev)?10:43
Laneyseb128: nope, I usually do something at built time that substitutes it into the package10:44
seb128I guess I could do that, but it's slightly inconvenient10:45
seb128it's for the nautilus apport hook which lists installed extensions10:45
seb128thanks Laney10:45
Laneythat's not to say there isn't a way, just that I don't know it :-(10:46
LaneyI would probably generate it in that case yeah10:46
jbichacould you just use a wildcard?10:46
jbichals /usr/lib/*/nautilus/extensions-3.010:46
Laneyor use /usr/lib/*10:46
Laneyoh that10:46
Laneythat's kind of annoying to code in python10:47
Laneyunless you use glob.glob I guess10:47
Laneylaney@nightingale> python3 -c 'import glob; print(glob.glob("/usr/lib/*/nautilus/extensions-*/"))'                                                                                                                                ~10:48
Laney['/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0/']10:48
seb128that's an idea10:49
seb128unsure how optimized that is, I mean it makes it checks all the /usr/lib subdirs right?10:50
seb128but probably light enough compared to the work apport is doing anyway10:50
Laneyyeah probably not that important to optimise too much in a crash handler context10:52
Laneyyou could also do extensions-*/* to get them all right away, then no need to do any loop yourself10:52
seb128yeah10:57
seb128thanks10:57
seb128tjaalton, hey, are you the right person to talk to about xwayland? ;-)11:11
tjaaltonseb128: probably11:12
seb128tjaalton, k, some questions then11:13
seb128tjaalton, is that known/reported/investigated than apport doesn't catch Xwayland segfaults?11:13
tjaaltonnot seen that before11:13
seb128k, well there is no report on e.u.c nor on launchpad so I guess it's true11:14
seb128like that problem I'm having apport catches a gnome-shell issue11:14
seb128anyway I can have a look11:14
seb128tjaalton, next, is there a known segfault in artful? and is that upstream material or ubuntu/debian patched?11:15
tjaaltonseb128: again haven't seen any11:15
seb128"Thread 1 "Xwayland" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.11:15
seb1280x00000092f4790b6e in zwp_pointer_constraints_v1_lock_pointer (lifetime=2, region=0x0, pointer=<optimized out>, surface=<optimized out>, zwp_pointer_constraints_v1=0x92f72d8060)"11:15
seb128it does it reliably when using kvm11:15
tjaaltonwell I did backport patches from upstream11:15
tjaaltoncould drop some11:15
seb128I'm happy to report where appropriate with debug info11:15
seb128or try upstream git if that helps11:15
seb128just let me know what's best11:16
seb128tjaalton, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25431556/11:16
seb128tjaalton, I'm pretty sure I used kvm a week ago so I wonder if that's a regression in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.19.3-1ubuntu411:17
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 2 not found11:17
seb128I guess I can try downgrading if that helps11:17
seb128yeah, the functions in the bt are new from that update11:18
seb128so I guess it's a new issue11:18
tjaaltoncould be caused by grab protocol patch11:18
tjaaltontry disabling wayland-add-grab-protocol-support.diff11:18
seb128tjaalton, reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/171398111:19
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1713981 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xwayland segfaults when using kvm (since 2:1.19.3-1ubuntu4)" [Undecided,New]11:19
tjaaltonthx11:19
seb128yw11:19
seb128tjaalton, would that help to know that disabling this patch fixes it?11:20
tjaaltonyes, I'll just drop it then11:20
seb128is that patch coming from upstream, in which case I should maybe report the issue there?11:20
tjaaltonit is11:20
seb128so should I report it to bugs.freedesktop as well?11:22
tjaaltonyou can11:23
tjaaltons/may11:23
seb128tjaalton, reported on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102474 and I'm building without xwayland-add-grab-protocol-support.diff11:31
ubot5Freedesktop bug 102474 in XWayland "segfault in zwp_pointer_constraints_v1_lock_pointer" [Normal,New]11:31
tjaaltoncool11:32
seb128tjaalton, oh, I couldn't use the keyboard arrows to navigate the iso menus in kvm and I can again without that patch :-)11:37
seb128and no segfault11:37
tjaaltonok, I'll drop it11:38
seb128should I repot the keyboard issue upstream as well?11:38
tjaaltonsure11:39
seb128tjaalton, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10247511:43
ubot5Freedesktop bug 102475 in XWayland "Can't use keyboard arrows in kvm with the keyboard grabbing change" [Normal,New]11:43
seb128Laney, nice work on that gnome-software/enable universe issue, sorry that the bug was not more detailed but I couldn't figure out in which situation it would trigger11:45
Laneyseb128: oops forgot to reply, thanks!13:10
Laneyprobably not going to work on any others right now, need to look at this snap thing13:11
Laneyso help welcome13:11
Laneyroot@laney-test:~/mozjs52-52.3.1# echo "console.log('hello world')" | js52 -13:16
Laneyhello world13:16
Laneyroot@laney-test:~/mozjs52-52.3.1#13:16
Laneythis is a good sign13:16
kenvandine;)13:16
jbichaLaney: thanks!13:20
Laneylet me run the gjs tests first13:20
jbichamozjs52 is in sid now but with a mismatched tarball so not directly syncable13:21
LaneySUMMARY: total=32; passed=32; skipped=0; failed=0; user=9.8s; system=2.7s; maxrss=5445613:22
seb128woot13:23
kenvandineexcellent13:23
Laneyhey kenvandine13:23
* kenvandine thinks we need autopkg tests for snaps13:23
seb128hey kenvandine, how are you?13:23
kenvandinegood13:24
kenvandineand you?13:24
kenvandinehey Laney13:24
seb128I'm good thanks13:24
seb128kenvandine, we need autopkg tests, and dbgsnaps and devsnaps and langpacks and ... :-)13:24
kenvandinelol13:24
kenvandinenot much to solve there13:24
seb128tjaalton, is each patch one commit or did you agregate several upstream commits?13:30
seb128ah, that's in the description of the patches13:31
tjaaltonseb128: yes, uploaded a new one that dropped this13:32
seb128tjaalton, you didn't upload any client/compositor to use those right?13:33
tjaaltonno13:33
seb128tjaalton, right, I saw, I just got questions/comment from upstream13:33
seb128Ubuntu is fine but I would like to see things fixed upstream13:33
seb128so we can get those changes back without bug later on13:34
tjaaltonfor 18.04 sure, with xserver 1.20 hopefully13:34
seb128tjaalton, k, well we need to issues fixed eventually at some point so let's see how the upstream discussion goes13:40
seb128jbicha, do you know when upstream removed the g-s-d lid action gsettings option? I just look at gnome-tweaks and the hack to not suspend on lid close, that seems quite hackish :-/13:40
seb128also there is no way with that to make it lock the screen on lid close?13:41
jbichaI don't know13:42
seb128k13:43
jbichabtw, ubuntu-lid-close-suspend stopped working but that isn't new to 3.25, I haven't gone back to figure out when it stopped working13:43
seb128what is that? a gsettings key?13:43
jbichahttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/ubuntu-lid-close-suspend.patch13:43
seb128ah13:44
jbichait's a good idea, it would be nice to see if that could be upstreamed13:44
jbichapeople have been asking for that to be in at least tweak tool13:44
jbichathe Power page looks kind of empty in tweak tool now13:46
GunnarHjseb128, jbicha: Hi! Any thoughts on https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.artful_cjkv-fixes/+merge/329857 ?13:47
seb128GunnarHj, I don't13:48
seb128and hey13:48
jbichaGunnarHj: I was confused by it13:50
jbichaGunnarHj: were you supposed to update 'live' too?13:51
jbichaoh I didn't see your comment13:51
jbichabye13:52
xnoxhello desktopers =)14:03
xnoxdist-ugpraded artful, and now it fails to start login manager for me =(14:03
xnoxi can get to tty2, but I don't see gdm anywhere14:03
xnoxand screen flickers14:03
xnoxis there some way for me to troubleshoot this?14:04
tjaaltoncheck older kernel14:04
xnoxsurprisingly gdm.service claims that it is running, when clearly it is not.14:04
xnoxok. i have 4.12.0-12, -11, and 3.13.0-25 available  i will try -11 now14:05
tjaalton3.13?14:06
xnoxyes14:06
seb128xnox, what videocard/driver?14:06
xnoxseb128, it should be plain intel14:06
xnoxbut will double check14:07
xnoxi had to reboot mid-upgrade, so i do wonder if i have anything broken on disk =/14:07
xnoxi wonder if there is anything i can check in X, wayland, gdm logs that maybe of help to figure out what is wrong.14:08
seb128sudo apt-get -f install14:08
jbichaxnox: are you using a VM?14:08
xnoxit's a laptop14:08
xnox3.13 doesn't boot at all, so 4.12 is the only kernel i have14:08
tjaaltonbut you were on artful?14:09
tjaaltonshould have 4.11 available14:09
xnoxautoremove for the win! =)14:10
xnoxi915 drm_mks_helper loaded14:10
xnoxand ideapad_laptop too14:10
xnoxGdmLocalDispalyFactory: maximum number of X display failures reached14:11
* xnox thought it should be launching wayland.....14:11
tjaaltonjust fix the upgrade14:11
xnoxupgrade is fine14:12
xnoxlightdm starts fine14:12
xnoxgdm does not14:12
ogra_sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm14:13
ogra_;)14:13
jbichaGunnarHj: could you update 'live' too?14:16
GunnarHjjbicha: Sure, if that's the route we should take.14:16
GunnarHjjbicha: I.e. I'm inclined to move fcitx to supported, and thus keep those packages in main.14:17
xnoxpurging and reinstalling gdm314:18
jbichathat sounds fine for 17.10 to me14:18
xnoxyeah, starting gdm flickers 5 times and then gives up14:19
xnoxsigh14:19
kenvandinesigh... none of my snaps run today... even snaps that i know worked yesterday :/14:19
GunnarHjseb128, jbicha: Ok great, then I'll make that switch. (Probably only tonight.)14:19
seb128GunnarHj, great14:19
jbichaxnox: gdm uses the journal so check there for logs?14:19
kenvandinecan someone please install gnome-calculator snap and let me know if it launches?14:20
seb128xnox, enable debug in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf by uncommenting the "#Enable=true"14:20
* kenvandine is even using the xorg session... 14:20
xnoxi have a tonne of stuff from /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session14:20
xnox"GdmDisplay: display lasted 2.191899 seconds" string != NULL failed assertion from GLib14:21
xnoxGdmLocalDispalyFactory says "check X server log for errors"14:21
seb128do that?14:21
xnoxhm X server ":0" unavailable14:21
xnoxEE open /dev/fb0: Permission denied14:23
xnoxand then eventually it just shuts down14:24
xnoxsigh14:24
xnoxgdm-wayland-session segfaults14:27
xnoxoooh14:29
xnoxgnome-session-binary: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....14:29
xnoxhm could not get session id for session14:29
* xnox ponders if my systemd is broken14:29
ogra_or your whale is sick14:30
chrisccoulsonxnox, oh, I thought that message sounded familiar - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/3.0.2-0ubuntu514:35
chrisccoulsonprobably the only thing I've ever worked on that hasn't been deleted yet ;)14:35
LaneyREVERTED15:06
popeyoSoMoN: any ETA on when we'll get fixed chromium in stable?15:40
oSoMoNpopey, I haven't received any useful feedback on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/gl-applications-using-desktop-helpers-dont-work-on-nvidia/1825 and since I don't have nvidia hw I'm not sure how to proceed from there15:54
popeyoSoMoN: is there anyone on the desktop team who does, who can help?15:57
oSoMoNkenvandine, I seem to remember you mentioned some nvidia hw that you wanted to unbox to test snaps on it15:59
oSoMoNIf you do I could use your help to investigate https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/gl-applications-using-desktop-helpers-dont-work-on-nvidia/182515:59
kenvandineoSoMoN, sure did... i can give it  a whirl16:00
oSoMoNawesome16:00
kenvandineoSoMoN, should i test with chromium from the store?16:01
kenvandineoSoMoN, i have unboxed my nvidia desktop, but haven't actually wired it up yet16:01
kenvandinei can do that now though16:01
oSoMoNkenvandine, yes, the stable channel has the snap that fails to run16:02
oSoMoNkenvandine, you can easily experiment with changing launchers and scripts by unpacking the snap with `unsquashfs chromium*.snap` and after modifying repack it with snapcraft snap squashfs-root`16:04
kenvandineoSoMoN, best way to determine if it's using hardware acceleration?  Just check the toggle in chrome://settings?16:55
oSoMoNkenvandine, go to chrome://gpu17:12
oSoMoNthat should tell you if you have hw acceleration17:12
kenvandineoSoMoN, i tried it with nouveau first, it was accelerated17:19
kenvandinetesting with binary driver now17:19
kenvandineoSoMoN, software rendering with nvidia binary driver17:23
kenvandinehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25433187/17:23
kenvandinesounds related17:23
* kenvandine tries altering the launcher17:24
kenvandineoSoMoN, i hacked chromium-browser.launcher and same issue17:31
kenvandineoSoMoN, i also hacked desktop-launcher17:31
kenvandinesame thign17:31
kenvandinehmmm, the quadrapassel snap doesn't launch at all on nvidia18:12
jibelcyphermox, hey could you have a look at bug 1713722 ?18:48
ubot5bug 1713722 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "System fails to start encrypted swap on boot on an encrypted home installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171372218:48
jibelcyphermox, artful / fresh install18:48
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cyphermoxsure19:50
cyphermoxdid you do manual partitioning for that or guided?19:51
cyphermoxbecause it's complaining about a missing /swapfile19:51
oSoMoNkenvandine[m][m], thanks for looking into that, sorry I disappeared (had some friends over for dinner), let's dig some more into it tomorrow21:20
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xnox..23:03
xnoxi fixed my laptop by progressively using bigger hammers23:03
xnoxremoved all `rc` packages, removed all -dev packages, removed all unity-* packages, run debsums and reinstalled any packages with missing files23:03
xnoxpurged lightdm23:03
xnoxpurged gdm323:04
xnoxrm -rf /etc/gdm3 /var/lib/gdm323:04
xnoxreinstall gdm3 and things work fine now.23:04
xnoxit took a while, thus also no idea what was broken, but i can get into "GNOME on X" and "Ubuntu on X" sessions23:04
* xnox thought there was supposed to be wayland stuff too, no?23:05

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