[07:59] cpaelzer: Test [08:00] hws: exactly [08:00] and after a long discussion like [08:00] 1 [08:00] 2 [08:00] 3 [08:00] you could highlight more people to read the above via [08:00] hws: ^^ [08:16] hws: btw I also created a bug for a kernel contrib by borntraeger around KVM and zero pages [08:16] hws: you should have a mail to mirror that back [08:16] are you the right one to do so? [08:16] (the mirroring) [08:16] cpaelzer: already done [08:16] great [08:17] while we are here - good morning borntraeger [08:17] cpaelzer: already an answer available :) [08:17] borntraeger: the alignment patch on qemu missed 2.10 as many others did this release [08:17] borntraeger: did you hear anything on an earlier than usual 2.10.1 and if so any date rumors? [08:18] cpaelzer, only wishes, but no facts [08:18] hws: the update didn't flow down to me through the tool yet [08:18] borntraeger: ok, that is my state - thanks [08:19] cpaelzer: just to shortcut..... FWIW, this fix is only necessary if you have guest that use storage keys - e.g. an 16.04 guest should not trigger this problem. [08:21] hws: do we have any linux guests that use storgae keys in the meantime? [08:21] I might have lost track [08:21] cpaelzer: question for christian... [08:21] and as a HV host it is a bit weird, as you can only make "so much" assumption on your guests [08:22] who says no one uses a Ubuntu Xenial as host in 2020 (still supported then) with a new Guest that suddenly uses stroage keys [08:22] ... [08:22] anyway this is just the sort of discussion that I wanted on that bugzilla [08:22] for a more permanent documentation of the case [08:23] and since it is mirrored now this will happen [08:23] I don't mind loosing a few hours for the mirroring [08:32] cpaelzer, hws no current Linux guest uses storage keys [08:32] sles 11 and rhel6 do [08:32] sles12, rhel7 ubuntu 16.04 do not [08:32] well the old one before we removed it [08:33] so since there is no intention to add storage keys back in Linux or host non Linux (not intention I'd know of) - the TL;DR is "not needed"? [08:40] cpaelzer, unless you want to support some old debians as guest or so [08:45] borntraeger: did anybody check if there really is no perf impact? [08:45] I know that over time all pages will be used [08:45] but I thought the zero page would still be overloaded [08:45] or is even the fix [08:45] only active on storage key using guests [08:46] borntraeger: and so it is not only "not needed" but even when applied "not actively changing" the zero page handling as long as you have only "new" guests? [08:48] cpaelzer, if a guest has a pattern of only reading a page, it will be a zero page inside the guest [08:49] cpaelzer, the fix is to not use zero pages in the host to back guest pages